Should You Fast Before Communion? | Greek Orthodoxy Fact vs Fiction
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- Do you need to fast before receiving Greek Orthodox Communion? Find out the answer in this week's episode of Greek Orthodoxy Fact vs Fiction.
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This is good, only let us remember to pray when we fast. Let us prepare our hearts with confession and repentance. May God have mercy on us.
you know im converting from my pagan ways into the greek orthodox church and i enjoy watching these videos as they are helpful informative and enjoyable. keep it up Father!
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Wonderful video! Happy Pascha!
Thank you!
The early Christians "broke bread" and drank of the cup in communion with one another. Paul admonished people for treating like any other meal, they were taking more of their share, not leaving for others and drinking the wine to drunkeness. He instructed them to eat at home if they were hungry
For all that is Holy and Just, why do you have taverna music playing? There are many sacred Orthodox Hymns which can be utilized for the introduction and closure.
god bless..!!
Well said Father
Thank you!
Love holy communion body and blood of Lord I grew up Lutheran Church taking commiuon
And we should fast on Wednesdays and Fridays… meaning that we do vegan… not overeat… etc.
In Russian Orthodox tradition we fast 3 days prior (no meat, milk or sometimes even fish), go to confess on Saturday’s evening and consume nothing from 12 o’clock on Saturday’s night before receiving the Communion on Sunday‘s Liturgy. I’ve heard it was a monk tradition before but somehow became a rule of a thumb with possible exceptions later
Nowdays priests say "no need to fast".... I live in Ukraine. Thats bad. Thats why we have war
So water is okay before a Sunday morning liturgy? Does this vary between Greek, Antiochian, and other Orthodox churches?
It’s also in the bible. When the disciples of St John asked Jesus why His disciples didn’t fast He said they can’t fast when the groom is present but when the groom is away they will fast.
What about drinking coffee on Sunday morning before church?
Makes sense
The Eucharist is at the center of Eastern Christian faith communities, both Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic. Eastern Orthodox Christians affirm the real presence in the Sacred Mysteries (consecrated bread and wine), which they believe to be the actual body and blood of Jesus, transformed through the operation of the Holy Spirit. The Eucharist is normally received in the context of the Divine Liturgy. In Orthodox Eucharistic theology, though many separate Divine Liturgies may be celebrated geographically, the bread and wine present is considered to be part of one whole, rather than numerous different existences of the body and blood of Jesus appearing, separate from each other.
The Eastern Orthodox Church has never clarified or made statement on the exact nature of transformation of the bread and wine, nor gone into the detail that the Roman Catholic Church has with the doctrine of transubstantiation, which was formulated after the Great Schism of 1054; the Eastern Orthodox churches have never formally affirmed or denied this doctrine, preferring to state simply that it is a "Mystery", while at the same time using, as in the 1672 Synod of Jerusalem, language that may appear similar as to that used by the Roman Catholic Church.
The Anaphora (Eucharistic prayer) contains an anamnesis (lit. "making present"), a liturgical statement recounting the historical facts of Jesus' death, including the Eucharist, Passion, Resurrection and Ascension; in the Eastern Christian churches, the anamnesis is also considered to make these aspects of Jesus' ministry present, forming a link to these events. The Anaphora ends with an epiclesis ("calling down from on high") during which the priest invokes the Holy Spirit to come and "change" the Gifts (elements of bread and wine) into the actual body and blood of Jesus. The Orthodox do not link the moment the Gifts change to the Words of Institution, or indeed to any one particular moment, instead affirming that the change is completed at the Epiclesis.
Communion is given only to baptized, chrismated Orthodox Christians who have prepared by fasting, prayer, and confession (different rules apply for children, elderly, sick, pregnant, etc. and are determined on a case-by-case basis by parish priests). The priest administers the Gifts with a spoon directly into the recipient's mouth from the chalice. From baptism, young infants and children are carried to the chalice to receive Holy Communion.
The holy gifts reserved for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts or communion of the sick are specially consecrated as needed, especially on Holy Thursday. They are kept in an elaborately decorated tabernacle, a container on the altar often in the shape of a church or of a dove. Generally, Eastern Christians do not adore the consecrated bread outside the Liturgy itself. However, they prostrate to the ground during the transfer of the Holy Gifts during the Presanctified Liturgy (the "Entrance"), as a sign of utmost reverence. After the Eucharist has been given to the congregation, the priest or the deacon has to consume the Holy Gifts that are left.
The most perfect expression of the Eucharistic unity of the Eastern churches is considered to be found in the Hierarchical Divine Liturgy (a liturgy at which a bishop is the chief celebrant), as, following the writings of Ignatius of Antioch, the church is considered to be fully present in the presence of a bishop surrounded by clergy and members of the congregation.
The Eucharist does not exist in Catholicism, even in so-called "Byzantine Catholicism." I was involved in one of their religious communities for 6 years to include living in the community as a member for three of those six years, it is all a show with no actual substance.
Father, I always drink coffee ( and smoke cigarettes) in the morning. I never thought of it as being bad, because I never eat, but now I see that it is. I know that this will sound silly in asking, but can you advise me on how to stop or to ween myself off on Sunday’s ?
Just stop, if you’re faith is strong, God will deliver you.
Also, maybe taking a caffeine tablet would be better than actually drinking coffee if you have withdrawal symptoms.
Honestly start on the other days of the week like a Monday morning. For myself I drink a cup to a cup and half of coffee every day. But to get off it completely or reduce the amount you drink drink a little less each day till you’ve reached your desired goal. Be ahead of withdrawal symptoms by taking an advil or Tylenol or whatever works for you as soon as the slightest headache comes on and hydrate well. However weaning through the week will reduce withdrawal symptoms. If you decide cold Turkey just be prepared for the withdrawal symptoms, but either way by Sunday you should be weaned off. As for the smoking, I’ve never smoked so I can’t say how to go about that. Perhaps talk to your doctor, or an addiction therapist to overcome that, however don’t forget to pray for strength. Every time you have a craving for the fix, pray the Jesus prayer.
I wonder if the father could give any words on The Orthodox Study Bible, published by Thomas Nelson in 2008
I'm thinking of picking this book up for further study into the Orthodox view on the old and new testament. Would this be a good source, or should I pass on it?
I can only pass on advice from my priest, and he said the study Bible is a great place to start with learning the Bible because of the footnotes.
@@znovosad555 Alright, thank you for the reply! Highly appreciated
@@Ricoliets absolutely, God bless!
The Orthodox study Bible is okay but I strongly recommend the Orthodox New testament from Holy Apostles convent in Colorado. It is filled with patristic commentary and the translation is the best I've seen in the English language.
As I know it, in general for the Church it's 6 hours before Communion, but as Father has said a degree of eikonomia is allowed by bishops, depending on the situation.
8 hours with no food 6 hours with no water
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Economia is a wonderful excuse for westerners
But it's a mistake to tell people such because we'll just apply it ourselves. Leave the economia to the bishops and priests and do what we're expected to do. It's not a game, quit looking for shortcuts.
@@billybenson3834 Read again what I said: ekonomia is allowed by bishops, so it depends on your bishop and/or priest.
I’m a catholic, and we are told not to have food one hour before beginning of mass
That is hardly a fast. I go hours between eating most days.
That is not fasting, that is just instruction to keep people from eating food during a mass setting.
Father question what about people who have diabetes health issue.
Speak with your priest, he should be able to advise you. If your health is at stake some accommodation could be made.
Your priest will tell you to do as your doctor advises with food and medicine. You have to manage your health properly.
If it’s health concerns the Orthodox Church recognizes these things as reasons not to fast, even during the normal fasting periods like lent, the nativity, the Dormition or Wednesdays and fridays
At one time Catholics had to fast from midnight before receiving holy Communion
I'm pretty sure that notion was invented by the uniates.
Other Christians are discouraged from accepting communion in the Roman Catholic church, as they do not believe in transubstantiation. Question: Can a Roman Catholic accept communion if they attend an Orthodox Catholic service? 🤔
Roman Catholics are not in communion with the Orthodox Church so no. We have closed communion to Orthodox only who are in proper standing order with their faith and have been baptized, chrismated and gone to confession.
No
Instead of saying Catholic just say Catholicism, there is a huge difference between the Church of Catholicism and the Orthodox Church. Catholicism is not Catholic nor should it be conflated or confused with being Catholic. I am well aware of the fact that people commonly use the term Catholic to refer to Catholicism and that is because they have bought wholesale into false narratives.
Recieving the Body & Blood of Christ should be taken far more serious and applied to all equally, (unless the person has a serious illness). However it seems that too much emphasis is made on what one is eating/drinking, the most vital thing a person should fast from is SIN.
You didn't talk about everything about fasting and receiving communion you receiving communion on a Sunday definitely the Saturday before your meals are only shellfish and oil no meat or dairy according to the church's you have to be clean from food and other things for 4 days and also is good to keep up with confession and to have permission from your Confessor that it's okay for you to receive communion
Many would disagree
No, in actual fact communion was normally taken after a shared meal in the early church
This was before the traditions established in the second and third centuries, he explained perfectly
“Agapee” meal, come one Fr., you’re Greek use the correct pronunciation.