The Casual Crooks of TF2: Pt II
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- PUBS hate them for this one secret trick! I'm just chatting about some stinky loadouts in tf2, but not like righteous bison stinky, more like go wash your cheeks stinky. Someone had to do it, so it might as well be me! Welp, that's all I got... See ya.
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2:06 World's first recorded backstab with a rocket launcher.
Trickstabbed!
3:34 the biggest casual crooks are the ones who dont vote to kick bots
agree
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Not even spy mains defend the diamondback. Most of them use the Ambassador, not because of any sense of honor, but because it's flashier.
as a predominantly pyro player we only focus down spies so nobody else on the server has to deal with seeing xX_sup3rd3ath_Xx's professional killstreak diamondback titled "one shot one kill" with a description in japanese on the killcam
at least the l'étranger's damage penalty actually matters, tho ive seen more spy mains use that and stock than the modern ambassador
@@orangeauroraI use cloak and dagger big earner and ambassador am I chilling with ya?
Ngl I would be using the diamondback more if I didnt suck at shooting.
@@orangeaurora Because l'étranger is a crouch for those who don't know how to manage their cloak
Some casual crooks I'd love to see in a video:
Machina Snipers that only go for bodyshots
Jarate + Bushwhacka Snipers
Force of Nature + Crit a Cola Scouts (not nearly as busted as it used to be obviously but can still be annoying)
Vaccinator Medics
Short Circuit Engineers that spam on the payload cart
Gunslinger Engineers (especially on hightower or harvest, they know what they're doing)
Skullcutter Demos that always get random crits for some reason
Soda Popper + Mad Milk Scouts that can tank anything, heal, run away until the milk recharges, repeat
The "Medic Girlfriend"
I cannot tell you how many times i've run into jackasses using the kunai, dead ringer and then, to add salt to the wound, they're also using the diamondback. That kinda playstyle is actually unbearable to fight against, i'd low key rather have paper cuts all over my body and jump into a pool of lemon juice than have to fight one of these wretched demons.
yeah. They think they're trickstabbing the whole enemy team and then they jump off stairs for no reason lmfao.
The REAL pro load out is "Kunai,DR, AND THE AMBASSADOR OR LETRANGER"
@@nekoafterlyfe These guys who use L'Etranger or the Amby are at least a tad bit more respectable, but they're just as annoying to fight against, if not more so, because they tend to actually be good at the game
@@gabriel_linf well if I take the fact that I get vk'd everytime I trickstab anyone at all... I can safely say you're right
sounds like skill issue tbh
@@user-os1wr5vi1t It's a skill issue from the part of my teammates, yes; I am the one who gets punished because THEY got backstabbed by this one spy who happens to be using the diamondback, like how is that MY fault
Same deal with the Kunai
force a nature just blasting people off the map it's funny tho
10:25
that's why i still use panic attack when my sentry has 20 kills
i am THE whiffer
"The SMG is one of the best secondary weapons in the game."
*pulls out my spreadsheet*
Shotgun, panic attack, flare gun, detonator, gun boats, all 3 banners, mad milk, jarate, all 3 of demomans shields, the wrangler, the sandvich, the second banana, and technically the sticky bomb launcher and medigun are secondary weapons.
Some people think the smg should be nerfed 🤣
I was thinking about this while editing the video... maybe the smg isn't better then the stickybomb launcher lol but it's definitely better then the pistol and it's perfect for what sniper needs
best???? its meant to suck fym
Tge smg is goated bruh
scorchshot
Vaccinator Medics are the worst when your team is unorganized or the medic is experienced with the vacc
Not even the machina sniper could penetrate through resistance. The enforcer is so useless that you can backstab a vacc medic.
@@TriggerzConnors
Hey, cut the Enforcer some slack, it’s just as good as stock.
@@Turtleboilol still, a smallest side grade from stock revolver.
@@TriggerzConnors
I can see your point, minimal Downsides, minimal upsides.
It’s a uniquely designed weapon, but its uniqueness doesn’t shine enough.
@@Turtleboilolbecause tf2 player too comfort with their oblivioness , ironically complain DR kunai when hard counter exist
That three man with the Loose Cannon was so clean it made me rethink my life choices
post donk clarity
That double donk has me acting different
I heard you say in a video that you don't watch tf2 ytbers, whats up with that lil bro
"you have to hit your shots" would actually be a good way to balance the diamondback. Make it have a longer cooldown between shots - if you miss you're just sitting there with no ability to shoot for 2/3x the time, while a normal revolver can just keep firing and drop light classes in 3 hits. It would fit the weapon's design too - it looks bulky and heavy so slow shooting makes sense aesthetically
"The SMG is one of the best secondary weapons in the game" if you don't count most of the secondary weapons in the game, this is true lmao
Why would I use it when the Jarate exists? Best Sniper secondary ever and... I don't use it
The choppas too fun to run around with
It shows this guy took his stereotypes from Soundsmith and acts like it happens every day
Big improvement from the last casual crooks, great job!
I like to play as Soldier with the Black Box; but instead of using the Conch, I use the Battalion's Backup. Not only do I think it's the coolest looking of the backpack items, but extra 20 health and sentry resistance comes in clutch quite often.
As a Former Spy main and now a Soldier Main, I don't like Kunai DR Spies and I usually resort to hunting them down whenever possible. As you say, they're not fun to deal with but somebody has to dedicate themselves to stop the ball from rolling.
You're doing God's work out there lmao
Kunai DR spies feel like almost the antithesis on how the character should be played. Like these guys get 1 stab and just run headlong into full teams
@@xx_squirtle8621old DR ringer feeling
That shit used to have 90% damage resistance at all times, it doesn't even decrease resistance to be lower the longer it's active, it also used to get cloak from ammo packs
@@RandomFurry07 Yep, and people would still use it to run into whole teams trying to abuse hit detection
@@xx_squirtle8621 hey, at least it doesn't work too well for them a lot of the time compared to before
Since they actually need more risk since, low health and the need to stab to become buff
The casual crook of Scout is Bonk + FaN + Atomizer. The soda gives Scout a get out of jail card that takes no skill to use. It's also the most brainless way to flank. Since the Force a Nature fires so fast, Scouts don't have to aim for the second shot. And it's impossible to react to, feeling really annoying to die to. The only reason I don't 100% despise this loadout is because FaN knocking enemies into death pits and Bonk+Atomizer taunt kills have big funny value.
Bleed Scout is annoying and powerful, but it's not a casual crook IMO because it takes considerable aim to hit both the guillotine and wrap assassin ornament on one target.
I gotta admit, I hardly ever play soldier and after watching this video, I went and tried black box + conch + disciplinary action and .. it worked! Lol, thanks for the tip! Cool video, BTW. I like the way you phrase things.
Some ideas for you:
Medic - Vaccinator (free immediate resistance)
Sniper - Bazaar Bargain or Jarate (they both reward you for doing seemingly nothing at all)
Engineer - Wrangler or Short Circuit (two weapons which can shut-down any sort of push because they press 2 on their keyboard)
Scout - Mad milk (same reason as jarate, kind of just a win button)
the huntsman section of this video is GOLDEN
It's so freaking funny, just as the scout try escape a crit just homes on him. Lol
There's no escape
@@Twisterfrfr no kidding lol
Spy mains over the past lets say year have been realising that thr ambi is actually sometimes better than the DB, even with the DR kunai combo, i would know, i use the kunai DR with the ambi, i match the diamondback more with the big earner because of the chain stabs for that weapon makes it more exillerating
The dead ringer fake death instantly resets the spy's snowball effects like stored hits and overheal. There i just balanced spy.
3:36 the worst part about this is still taking the health packs
It's a cold world out here
@4:22 whoaa.... I wonder who that tall dark and handsome sniper is.....
That's my discord mod 🤓, I'll tell them you're interested
I love your editing :)
common crook is the bazaar bargain/sniper rifle + razorback sniper hiding behind a sentry nest
Finally a video on the no mercy spy, just be disguising as scout for the tiny speed and runs in circles over and over
For scout, his "casual crook" loadout would definitely have the Force-a-Nature. They can use it to sneak up on anyone and 2 shot them (with the 2 shots it already has). This makes them kinda like spy, but they are way more mobile (cause... they the scout). Idk if that would be a bad enough load out for a casual crook, but it might be (especially on control point maps & capture the flag).
What their other weapons would be, idk. Probably the pocket pistol (for its extra health), and the Wrap Assassin (because it has a really annoying projectile).
For Scout, if we talk annoyance more than stomp then the bonk is defo up there.
In fact a favorite loadout of mine if I just wanna annoy people is to go fan o' war+bonk and tag people to death.
It's ridiculously easy to pull off and you can get away very often as well since the bonk more or less acts like a visible dead ringer.
Now don't drink the bonk right after tagging someone as you are too close to em, instead, run a bit further away, preferably behind cover and drink the bonk and watch the person you've tagged try to pointlesly shoot at you while they are marked for death.
Which btw stays on for 15s even if you die or if the person you marked is being healed or even ressuplying.
You could pair it with the force of nature to 2 tap most classes and make a big enough space between your opponent and yourself to run away if you fail.
I'm not sure if the "noh mercy" spy qualifies as a crook, because it takes a half-decent spy to use it effectively. So this loadout is somewhere between "crook" and "pub stomper"
This really only works on a few maps, but Thruster + Flamethrower Pyro on like Harvest is nasty. It's really easy to jump into the other team's spawn zone and just camp for kills. I remember one guy got so salty he put on the Darwin's and still got cooked multiple times in a row.
Dude this is fucking amazing. You're hilarious. Keep it up
No mercy spies are the worst indeed.
Once i got into a ctf match, and it was 2fort. Peopel started being friendly and such, so ut was nice af.
We all gathered on the bridge, heavys sharing sandviches abd using the holiday punch, engineers building dispensers... It was nice indeed.
There was ONE SINGLE SPY that insisted on disguising right outsdie od spawn and going to the bridge, and backstabbing everyine on my team.
I eventually got mad and decided to kill him alone, and another tryhard joined him, playing other classes.
Eventually the entire wituation escalated to an ACTUAL map of ctf, we were actually fighting like other games and trying to cap.
I raged so hard i installed overwatch 2 lol, still gotta play that.
Sorry for text wall :3
With the huntsman, remember: DON'T GET CLOSE! The closer you are the higher chance of a headshot. Yes I mean you demoknights that just charge me without a thought inside your collection of heads.
Soldiers spies and snipers are actually the bane of casual. Play engineer heavy or medic? Here comes 3 kunai spies!!
Play any class in the game and walk around a corner? There’s a pocketed soldier who eviscerates you in 0.1s because they got a lucky crit rocket
Just to clarify before we begin, I'm a Pyro Main. With that said, in my opinion, if you nerf the Diamond Back you gotta nerf the Medi-Guns. Medic heals, and over heals his team, which is his job. And for, doing his job, he gets free invincibility? And you don't have to aim it? And all you have to do is sit in a spawn room with a scout as he hits himself with his bat? Then you have the diamond back, which has the same complaint of rewarding spy to heavily for doing his job. But, crits are far weaker than invincibility, you have to risk dying to earn them, it takes effort to get proper backstabs, you can't die before getting to use it, you have no other tools to build up your crits (Medic has Vita and Uber Saw) and all of that, you also have to aim your shots. Not to mention surviving as medic is easier because you have more health, regen, and can stay protected by your team because your constantly healing them.
The medi gun to Diamondback comparison is absolutely horrendous, the Frontier Justice VS Diamondback has more weight than this
Absolutely horrid comparison. For those 20-30 seconds you spend building Uber your team is down 2 players which in a casual match isn’t much but it definitely CAN make a difference considering you’re losing a medic in the process. Not to mention a single pyro can render your Uber useless or if the enemy just… presses their S key and spread apart with a demo holding a trap for anyone followin the Uber.
For scout I'd say Force o' Nature, Flying Guilotine and Boston Basher. Insane dmg and double bleeding status if you hit your shots.
I use the Noh mercy loadout just to troll. If I'm being serious I use stock revolver, bit it is VERY funny watching the reactions you get from killing people with the diamondback, especially when you OUTSNIPE a sniper hiding in a corner.
force a + nature criticola is really the only scout loadout that can be annoying without being outplayed at least a bit
I'm enjoying these videos
hell yeah, thanks for watching
1:10 the range on the disciplinary action is nuts
it's funny how the disciplinary action has a huge range increase compared to stock but it isn't mentioned in the stats or even talked about at all
I use that spy loadout but with the l'Étranger instead. I just pubstomped with it like a maniac on KOTH, 30-5 and by far the highest score in the game. If you have good aim you can instantly decloak after you ringer, hit them 3 times as you're using the speed boost to dodge and create distance and BAM! Your ringer is already fully recharched less than 5 seconds after you used it. Also if your aim is on point you can use the overheal to pick fights with injured targets and just gun them down, I think I got around 13 kills out of 30 with my gun that game.
Sniper is one of those classes you absolutely hate but have to admit they have skill
A casual crook Scout loadout would be build around either the FaN or Sodapopper IMO
Not necessarily a casual crook, but casual *crooks*. Medic soldier/demo/heavy/power class combos steal the fun of the game so fast. Oh man, and if a medic is pocketing a battalions soldier with the kritzkrieg... it's over.
8 stickies trap camping demos with caber
4:04 the perfect intro to a HelloFresh spon
lucksman is underappretiated
I play Scout all the time and my all-time two hated "casual crook" loadouts are minisentry engineers and huntsman snipers BY FAR. The only weapon I truly fear in close proximity as a Scout is the huntsman because of the ridiculous number of times I've been wiped off the planet by one stray, close-range arrow which somehow found its way to my head, despite the fact I SHOULD have had the advantage to take out the Sniper with ease. And engineers who mini-sentry spam can literally suck all fun out the match and make you want to leave or swap classes because of how annoying the slow but sure damage of minisentries around every corner ends up being.
Gun boats and Rocket launcher = win
-Scrunchy Pants
Casual crock for scout was the sandman and cleaver back when sandman stun and cleaver did 150 + bleed
Earlier today I was playing an upward match on Uncletopia with 3 topscoring snipers in a party on the enemy team and I got them to leave by sticky jumping on them with the caber over and over
I’d have to say a scout that hits 99% all his shots on Hightower can go on this infuriating list
"if you miss the shot, just run away"
You ain't playing a lot of spy, don't you?
You should actually make a video of the notorious pubstomper. I can name a few.
As a spy main, I do use the diamond back, but only and ONLY on pyros or razorback snipers. Give them a taste of what its like to be in an unfair situation.
What future videos do you plan to make?
The Black Box is very low DPS compared to other options and the low clip means that you have to dip out of fights a lot to reload
It’s great for roaming new players, but not good for holding a front line or pushing as much as a Stock set… use it if you don’t have a medic or plan on needing one
yeah, I love going deep into enemy lines as a solo Soldier and none of my friends pocket me, so Black Box is a must have. Although I often run the Panic Attack or Gunboats instead of the Conch, since I won't be around my team to give them the banner buffs.
To think Valve Nerfed the Amby because it did what the Diamondback is doing now is kinda insane
religious spy main, i've used the diamondback once and never again, i swear when they did that ambi nerf and left this like that they were most likely smoking crack!
for me i use dead ringer kunai, but swap between ambassador and l'etranger, i agree that it can be the other teams fault. ambassador was good cus skill, dead ringer diserved nerf, yet the diamond back has the same "problem" valve saw with the ambassador but worse. personally the biggest strength of the kunai is that you have no chance of dying after a 1v2, as debuffs are removed
I think demoknights deserve to be on here
My fav sniper loadout is:
Huntsman
Cleaners carbine
Buskwacka (sometimes the shiv)
tbf sniper in general is like that, the huntsman is just a slightly exaggerated version of everything thats already wrong with the class.
Next up vac medic, mini spamming engie and stock scout.
2:45 not even splash. The passive regen will allow him to survive 2 direct pipes if you spend like .2 seconds longer to shoot your pipe.
0:23 average spy ragdoll.
11:02 also God himself cursed the old Ambassador. But it cheated death and came back in the form of the Diamondback, albeit a bit weaker
I know pubstompers are normally exempt from these, but I’d like to bring up Kritzkrieg pocket medics who basically glue themselves to one guy specifically. These things are just obnoxious
Huntmans still acceptable bc u get most kill at mid range while the sniper main behind lv3 sentry doing nothing but tapping head and top scoring.
The game becomes rly fun when good players use these loadouts. 😊
It certainly does
The only weapon I’d use in the “noh mercy” spy loadout is the dead ringer PURELY because gunspy exists
I’m a pyro main btw
As a medic main who doesn’t use the Vaccinator I can confirm we are insane
hey bud if you think the Lucksman is a Crook wait until you meet a rifle sniper who get pocketed
Especially with the Vacc (I only encountered em once in an actual game of TF2 and I don't want to encounter it again)
Almost every phlog Pyro has spawn camped, nothing Uber can't solve tho if u don't have airblast
what is the name of the song in the spy section?
Bb conch soldiers make me taunt after kill mandatory on them
-ConchBox my beloved (I refuse to call it "Immortal Soldier", fuck Elmaxo). In my experience with TF2, it has without a doubt been my most consistent source of high killstreaks and fun moments.
-Huntsman is very Funny™. It's like the funny moments machine. It doesn't work all the time, but when it does, it fucking DOES.
-KunaiRinger sucks. Fuck this thing. The health you get from a Kunai backstab + the Dead Ringer's damage resistance + speed boost is probably the single most annoying thing to fight in TF2.
eyelander demoknight
Bleed scouts are casual crooks for sure. Great vids btw!
the ambassador is better than the diamondback because you can do the same damage literally whenever
it's still the best damage dealing revolver even after the nerfs
late but tbh its almost no different for decent enough spies who dont really struggle on getting stabs or sapping buildings to store in crits
Soda Popper &' Crit-a'-Cola for Scrout.
Soda Popper is the strongest Scrout primary in the game, and giving scout FREE MINICRITS ON COMMAND AT ANY TIME HE WANTS IT is just not fair.
I mean, at least it's not the OLD soda popper.
(Also, why scRout?)
Crit a cola is really not that bad as you can kill them as fast if not faster than they can kill you with it and the soda popper is good but it's not really that annoying
While the Crit-a-Cola is free value, it also leaves the Scout very vulnerable and only Scouts with good gamesense can use it effectively. I'd argue the Bonk Atomic Punch is a much bigger crutch, because it removes like 90% risk from flanking, and gives him a way to get out of many situations where he shouldn't have. It synergizes well with the FaN, because FaN is great for flank scouts who want to be behind their opponent.
Casual Crook scout is FaN, Bonk, and Atomizer IMO.
probably soda popper but i have never seen that unless from good scout , fan can probably not fall into this category since it requires a cliff and most of the time they do haha funny environmental kill you already know where to find them
backscatter is bad and baby face is mid so the closest thing is probably soda popper or force-a-nature
The diamondback shouldn't reward sapped buildings imo, it would still reward good players for being good, but you can't just get free crits for exploiting the blind and deaf f2p engie who doesn't even know what key moves forward
Am I casual crook if I run robot soldier with mangler bison and stock on full moons?
i feel like the machina would have been a better choice for this
me personally im a deadringer kunai ambi spy because i dont like getting cheap kills that require minimal skill when im in a pinch and need a weapon to do high outputs of damage but that might just be me
This is ep2, ya better not miss out mentioning Gunslinger Engy in final part dawg. How did he miss out on BOTH episodes when Gunslinger engy is THE definition of casual crook, no skill, fun ruiner, easy to play
Edit: Gunslinger should've replaced "Lucksman" it's wild Huntsman still getting hate in 2024 when Huntsman is just a fun downgrade to sniper rifle, making it possible to 1v1 sniper unlike 4K hours quickscope sniper rifle mains 😢. Although I don't use smg with huntsman, feels very cheap and by using Cozy Camper, I force myself to use arrows to git gud at headshoting scouts or juking them while I charge 2nd arrow 😂
You always save the best for last
Bleed scout
for scout casual crook is force a nature soda popper
crit-a-cola* goddamn, two primaries on a scout would be a major pain
@@nopebro2471why are people complaining about the crit a cola, it's not even good and they end up dying just as fast as they kill
@@Moter. Wow what a nice day to play heav- *Scout runs up with soda popper critacola and 2 shots you*
2:18 I'd wouldn't say running conch over gunboats is a loss. Gunboats are overrated and only encourage a selfish loner playstyle, while the conch is a boon to your team and also a fantastic tool for roaming as well
I DESPISE the Huntsman; it makes Sniper as brain-dead as Soldier. "Oh, I'll just spam fire in random directions and manage to score 10 kills from across the map without even seeing the enemy." Lame af
Sure but I'd rather that any day over a rifle sniper
i just call the immortal soldier the BBC Lover 😂
I think for the last 3 it should be FaN scout because that god damn knock back and kinda stunned in the air for a short while is pretty annoying especially for newer players. Then we have the wrangler engie because of how brainless you can play with it with the auto aim and increase HP on a Level 3 and even on a mini. And the worst possible play style, The Vacc med. No other words needs to be said
You're essentially right on the money
1:11 most normal whip reach
lmao
The huntsman isnt nearly as annoying as standard sniper
I'll strongly disagree
@@hussar7733 one can instantly kill you from any distance and the other is a dodgeable projectile. Sure the hotbox is jank but it's not insta death by quickscope
@@nigeladams8321 I'll take quick scope that actually requierd some mechanical skill rather than bs arrow that some dip-shit shot in my general direction that will in best case scanario deal 120 hp any time of the day. But whatever you find less annoying I guess. Still I'd like to see that thing get nerfed or even removed.
@@hussar7733 have you ever use the huntsman for an extended period of time? It's a projectile with travel time you have to do some prediction unless people are running down a choke point but choke point spam isn't unique
@@nigeladams8321 it isn't unique but it's way more effective and annoying when huntsman does it, pills, stickies and rockets don't insta kill (unless random crit but that doesn't count) and are much slower. And requiering basic prediction is like bare minimum of any projectile weapon and hutsman is very forgiving and has extremly fast projectile but anwsering your question no bc I played it once and then never again cuz it felt pretty bs to me so Idk maybe you're right. I'll try it out maybe it'll change my mind.
As a Spy Main I dont use the Diamondback and I know that a Spy being rewarded by a fault of your teamates is bullshit, but your telling me a phlog pyro with a pocket medic is not bullshit, then im using the Diamondback, Kunai and Dead Ringer.
if huntsman is a casual crook, then stock soldier is too at this point
Uh... No not really
Roamer soldier maybe?
8:06 *Airblast*
Natasha, not only does it slow down movement classes and punishes fun and skilled play, and saying this as a heavy main I even find it bs it once got me stuck on a set of stairs.
But it also haves brass beast upside of 20% dmg resistance at half health, most players don't know this and don't use it to their advantage, but when they do it takes too long to kill the fucking heavy making him an actual tank in a game where you kill things in 2-3 shots.
We even had two players in one game thinking the heavy was cheating not realising they were playing against natasha.
But it also doesn't have brass beasts doswnside of being slow as molasses. Better yet, although it has a dmg pealty it kills more or less like the tomislav.
It's a horrible time and I've dealt with smart brass beast users those ain't no joke, but nastasha is just unhinged and dementedly evil and anyone who uses it wants to see the server burn.
I'm still havng war flashbacks worst mini to fight agaisnt.
the upside is that it forces your team to take down the horrible heavy toguether, but outside of that, yikes.
He already made a video on that