Killer Or Cover-Up Murder Trial: Day 14 Recap

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  • Key witnesses testify on day 14 of the Killer or Cover-Up Murder Trial, MA v. #KarenRead. Was it cold-blooded murder or is the defendant being framed? #CourtTV discusses the possible connections between the state and local police, the Albert and the McCabe families.
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  • @COURTTV
    @COURTTV  Před měsícem +15

    #CourtTV Was John O'Keefe's death cold-blooded murder or is the defendant #KarenRead being framed? MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?

    • @Planet_Shel
      @Planet_Shel Před měsícem +10

      I think they're throwing her under the bus or, should I say Jeep with snow plow?

    • @PJTYLER
      @PJTYLER Před měsícem +9

      Karen is being framed.

    • @jtjones4081
      @jtjones4081 Před měsícem +2

      So Julie Nagel casually invited her brother and his friend into a crime scene after they had come to the house to pick her up?? Yeah, right.

    • @mjdonahue65
      @mjdonahue65 Před měsícem +1

      @@jtjones4081 exactly none of the conspiracy theory makes sense. Why would her brother be in on this conspiracy and his brothers ex girlfriend. The vast conspiracy is throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks and cause doubt to get a killer off whether she did it on purpose or by accident.

    • @starsalways7922
      @starsalways7922 Před měsícem +1

      Do you have these guests on just for clicks or to stir the pot? They all seemed very unprofessional except for the guy on the top right.

  • @nxnxnx800
    @nxnxnx800 Před 29 dny +50

    I was hit by a drunk driver on my motorcycle who was going 50mph thru a red light. I flew half a block, a vehicle hit DOES NOT do those wounds to an arm at ANY SPEED, SHE IS INNOCENT!

    • @beastghostt
      @beastghostt Před 28 dny +3

      He also had two black eyes and blunt force trauma to the back of his head. In your lived experience, does that make a single lick of sense?

    • @jasminerosepetal
      @jasminerosepetal Před 25 dny +2

      Neither does a glass he is drinking from - which also makes no sense because he was drinking beers all night.

    • @Becki545
      @Becki545 Před 24 dny +1

      This is what I don't get, how can this be a case against Karen Read? I guess we're just overthinking and re-imagining. So crazy.

    • @mamarobyn
      @mamarobyn Před 16 dny

      I work for HD. In the service department so I see a lot of accidents, a lot of banged up bikes and a lot of banged up People...Really glad you're ok..

  • @davebardellini9305
    @davebardellini9305 Před měsícem +143

    This guy saying Jenn McCabe was credible is delusional

    • @valiakloeppel7252
      @valiakloeppel7252 Před měsícem +5

      Why. Facts matter

    • @jacofalltrades7610
      @jacofalltrades7610 Před 29 dny +15

      i dont know how court tv still lets him on. it is shameful
      the lawyer too. former employee of colin albert 😅 1000s of people that could comment objectively and they choose these jabronies.
      it boggles the mind

    • @steve10
      @steve10 Před 29 dny

      Are we supposed to believe someone who just found her partner dead is going to ask a friend to use Google to ask how long it takes for someone to die of hypothermia.
      No one asks that , it's a lie to try and cover for her using Google at 2.30am

    • @jacofalltrades7610
      @jacofalltrades7610 Před 29 dny +13

      ​@@valiakloeppel7252facts would be great. i love a good argument.
      kevin provides nothing of the sort. he just supplies variations of "nuh uh youre wrong" or "just wait and see" - constantly showing his disrespect for American law and the presumption of innocence.
      he speaks in absolutely reckless absolutes that none of us can actually know. it is shameful that Court TV still platforms him.
      i can only hope its not a personal choice, Vinnie 😅

    • @steve10
      @steve10 Před 29 dny +14

      The guy with the grey hair and beard is a professional irritant , he seems to be invested in the police families.
      He was embarrassing trying to cover up for them all

  • @amandahall476
    @amandahall476 Před měsícem +62

    What nice people that cared for John so much. "That guy", and a "black blob". Seem like lovely people

    • @nettiea9384
      @nettiea9384 Před 29 dny +4

      Yup agree. They r all on survival and attack mode. Both sides! A man lost his life and there’s no emotion… I guess the years gone by desensitized everyone. The cops handled this case abominable.

    • @AnnaChristie-vp4ip
      @AnnaChristie-vp4ip Před 28 dny +1

      @amandahall
      Oh such awful people who got up out of their beds and went out in a snowstorm looking for a cop, you're so manipulated it's unreal.

    • @rainaeasley7863
      @rainaeasley7863 Před 28 dny +1

      @@AnnaChristie-vp4ipI agree

    • @SF-zp5px
      @SF-zp5px Před 26 dny +1

      @@AnnaChristie-vp4ipso you think her phone records are all correct…except for the deleted calls between her and the victim and the 2a internet search that was deleted? She’s been victimized by her own phone data? And if you found your friend dead, would you call 911 saying “there’s a dead GUY on the lawn?”

    • @jasminerosepetal
      @jasminerosepetal Před 24 dny +2

      @@nettiea9384 right, and he was one of their own! No surprise that they left two victims in their wake. No wonder Karen didn't want to go inside and didn't want John to go inside.

  • @ninopaola
    @ninopaola Před měsícem +155

    No It’s NOT normal in a group chat and state “ the guy was never in the house”. Why do they need to remind themselves of the truth??? Really ???

    • @chart3861
      @chart3861 Před měsícem +6

      Right…….

    • @jenniferdokken8250
      @jenniferdokken8250 Před měsícem +24

      Spot on! My sentiments exactly there is absolutely no need to get the story straight if the story is true

    • @truecrimenut6696
      @truecrimenut6696 Před měsícem +15

      EXACTLY….THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT. KAREN IS INNOCENT.

    • @lcpharm
      @lcpharm Před měsícem +16

      @@jenniferdokken8250innocent people would say “John” , not distancing themselves as if they were writing a story.btw…agreeing, I don’t think I sounded like I was😆

    • @jenniferdokken8250
      @jenniferdokken8250 Před 29 dny +13

      @@lcpharm right supposedly he was one of their best friends, a co-police officer, brother in blue , and they referred to him as “the guy” ? Either they are in sensitive as heck or they’re guilty as sin …I believe the latter

  • @p369dangyoufine
    @p369dangyoufine Před měsícem +40

    The guy? For a friend? For a brother in blue? The adopted father of your kids friend? They are evil af and protecting the men who did this!

  • @DesignRhythm
    @DesignRhythm Před měsícem +204

    Jenn's 9-1-1 call sounds like she's reporting on paint drying.

    • @jenniferdokken8250
      @jenniferdokken8250 Před měsícem

      Probably the same way she is when in bed with her husband! Her thoughts are probably,” I think I’ll paint the ceiling brown….” she seems like a wet blanket no emotion whatsoever.

    • @TheSkipTracer
      @TheSkipTracer Před měsícem +3

      So would mine be because I'm very calm under pressure. Now later on, things catch up with me. All these claims that she's lying because she was calm, is BS.

    • @jenniferdokken8250
      @jenniferdokken8250 Před měsícem +14

      @@TheSkipTracer it was scripted and rehearsed

    • @LadyLuck13
      @LadyLuck13 Před měsícem +12

      ​@@TheSkipTracerbut yet she was hysterical when she ran into her sisters bedroom. She said a guy was passed out in the snow. A guy, her friend, was more than passed out in the snow. He had visible injuries

    • @jtjones4081
      @jtjones4081 Před měsícem +2

      How many times have I heard the crazy, yelling, person calling 911 and the dispatcher telling them to calm down cause they can’t understand the location etc. Jen handled the call perfectly and like an adult so as to get help ASAP.

  • @evilqueenyiayia
    @evilqueenyiayia Před měsícem +85

    I'm glad you did a family tree. 😂

    • @debrashawcross170
      @debrashawcross170 Před měsícem +3

      From Reports, there are details of 20 People at Scene, includes within the Albert's Home, and Chloe the Dog. And Experienced Plough Driver ... A total of 21 People that potentially have details of what happened.

    • @nikkimclay5474
      @nikkimclay5474 Před měsícem +2

      Yeah wow enough reason for a cover up & they all turned on KR despicable behaviour

    • @PebbleBeachSouth
      @PebbleBeachSouth Před měsícem

      Yep, almost a straight line of collusion.

    • @jenniferruth812
      @jenniferruth812 Před měsícem +3

      Me too. I took a screen shot so I can refer to it as needed. This is so convoluted!

    • @PJTYLER
      @PJTYLER Před měsícem +4

      You know, if they are going to add Trooper Proctor to the family tree even though he's a friend, you should also add the judge to the family family tree to show (all of the people) that she is chummy-chummy with.
      I think it's very important to show all the people that she is partial to be friendly with while she is being bias towards K.R.

  • @doreenhuston9623
    @doreenhuston9623 Před měsícem +176

    Allie McCabe in my opinion slipped during her testimony and said Colin wasn’t even there when John was there. Then her Dad Matthew had to read his text where he was telling the group to say John never came in and Chris Albert responded exactly. Their testimony knocks holes in the prosecutors case in my opinion.

    • @snobbybeauty2210
      @snobbybeauty2210 Před měsícem

      Its Brian Albert who responded « exactly »….. its obvious, karen is framed. Jen is dangerous liar 🤥

    • @debrashawcross170
      @debrashawcross170 Před měsícem +37

      That's why she cried 😭 she realised the implications of what she said 💥

    • @kabbystevens5167
      @kabbystevens5167 Před měsícem +29

      Allie and Chris were not in the house, Allie only stopped to pick up Collin…how does Allie and Chris know so much about the people in the house??? How does Chris and Allie testify to such knowledge???

    • @Demonace34
      @Demonace34 Před měsícem +6

      The statement would be true though. She is saying that even if you thought John was there (the people who believe the conspiracy) then Colin wasn't there at the same time so he wouldn't have been able to commit the crime. The people who believe this conspiracy have to first believe that someone in the house did it, then have to believe that the people in the house were dumb enough to put John on their own lawn and then also be able to keep everyone in the house in on the conspiracy the entire time. (This is including the people in the house that are only friends and not blood related).

    • @mjdonahue65
      @mjdonahue65 Před měsícem +2

      At does not equal in. Clearly John was at the house since he was found dead on the front lawn. Inferring that means he was in the house is just not using any type of logic or reasoning. She is stating that Colin never saw John at all that night.

  • @mininjas
    @mininjas Před měsícem +115

    I still don't understand how it got this far. The investigators are too close to the people involved. There's too much potential for bias. Even if they convicted Karen, she has grounds for appeal. But there's too much reasonable doubt. What a waste for everyone

    • @theartsypixie2771
      @theartsypixie2771 Před měsícem +11

      Exactly. I see reasonable doubt all over this, and if by some slim chance she is found guilty, I see it overturned just on the judge's actions. All that being said, now I'm curious about what these people are up to behind those doors and shades with their shady actions.

    • @officialtotino
      @officialtotino Před měsícem +9

      it almost seems they want her to be found not guilty so they stop investigating. if people keep digging they may find out the truth and implicate those trying to cover it up

    • @yogabee2222
      @yogabee2222 Před měsícem +4

      It's not a waste because John deserves justice regardless

    • @mininjas
      @mininjas Před měsícem +2

      @@yogabee2222 I think prosecuting Karen is a waste. He's not getting justice through that. Imo

    • @TimU2Cool
      @TimU2Cool Před měsícem +5

      Especially Karen and her family. Can you imagine the expenses involved in her defense 😞

  • @doreenhuston9623
    @doreenhuston9623 Před měsícem +173

    The Albert’s also got rid of their aggressive dog.

    • @jill2675
      @jill2675 Před měsícem +21

      Nothing fishy about that 😂

    • @melonmelon7427
      @melonmelon7427 Před měsícem +36

      They re-homed the dog, the basement floor, a bunch of phones and the house itself 🥴

    • @gatorman2322
      @gatorman2322 Před měsícem +16

      Replaced the flooring in the basement then sold the house

    • @TheLydia1011
      @TheLydia1011 Před měsícem +3

      @@melonmelon7427 there was absolutely no dog dna on John 🤭🤭🤭

    • @francescawilliams8177
      @francescawilliams8177 Před měsícem +1

      @@melonmelon7427and his career

  • @crimetimeAU
    @crimetimeAU Před měsícem +27

    Jen McCabe - invited John to the house.
    Jen McCabe - Googled "how long to die in snow"
    Also Jen McCabe - "found" Johns body with Karen. (More like she knew where his body was the whole time. Imo)
    Jen McCabe - makes 9-1-1 call. Talk about controlling the whole situation feom the very beginning.

    • @crimetimeAU
      @crimetimeAU Před měsícem

      ..... Then they all went to McCabe's house to give statements at 11:30am? She is involved in every single step. So strange.
      Not to mention the fact Jen has crazy eyes!

    • @user-pe2qg2qe4z
      @user-pe2qg2qe4z Před 28 dny

      Jenn was not the one who found John. But was Karen Read that run over to where Jjohn was Laying

    • @GeorgiaJakes7
      @GeorgiaJakes7 Před 28 dny +2

      The “butt dials” don’t make sense. Forget the fact that someone deleted them.

    • @crimetimeAU
      @crimetimeAU Před 27 dny +1

      @@GeorgiaJakes7 yeah, why delete them if you have nothing to hide?

    • @crimetimeAU
      @crimetimeAU Před 27 dny

      @@user-pe2qg2qe4z she was the one driving Karen's car and stalled going to the Fairview house by insisting on going to John's place. So she drove the crime scene vehicle? She wanted to keep a really close eye on Karen.

  • @REDDEVIL9269
    @REDDEVIL9269 Před měsícem +126

    This is a mad case we never have anything like this in the UK. Imo there's no way a car does that damage to his head without any to his body🤯

    • @MrsParksIsInTheHouse
      @MrsParksIsInTheHouse Před měsícem +9

      Exactly!!!

    • @AnnaChristie-vp4ip
      @AnnaChristie-vp4ip Před měsícem +3

      @REDDEVIL
      Are you a coroner or surgeon or police officer?
      How do you know the car did not do the damage?

    • @REDDEVIL9269
      @REDDEVIL9269 Před měsícem +14

      @@AnnaChristie-vp4ip he's 6ft with only head injuries and she has a broken tail light. It doesn't take an expert to know how impossible that is!

    • @melonmelon7427
      @melonmelon7427 Před měsícem +26

      @@AnnaChristie-vp4ipI am a nurse and have seen road traffic accident victims, that is most definitely not the type of injury you would see after what the prosecutor alleges. IF (and this is a HUGE IF) the SUV hit JO, the injury would be in the chest area and to the back of his head as he would hit the ground. Also, do you know the kind of speed it would take to catapult someone where he was found?

    • @Splashling25
      @Splashling25 Před měsícem +15

      You don't really need to be a coroner or anything, common sense really when you look at his injuries

  • @1e2b9-
    @1e2b9- Před měsícem +170

    "Tell them the guy never went in the house"

    • @Ms.truecrimebuff
      @Ms.truecrimebuff Před měsícem +7

      They don’t believe that!! They’re crazy

    • @dramallamamama
      @dramallamamama Před měsícem +8

      Exactly

    • @JohnPeter-yf5jf
      @JohnPeter-yf5jf Před měsícem +16

      That's the whole case in one sentence.
      This case will never be solved now, but like OJ We know who did it.

    • @Alemaniaturquia
      @Alemaniaturquia Před měsícem +15

      Since the guy went into the house. The judge should be gotten up and Dismissed oh hold on She should dismiss with a solo cup, leaf blower, stop and shop bags, ok hold on she should had demise with but Dail.butt. Deleted texts phones Oh, hold why what Karen did? Whyare we here?

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem

      One of many facts coming out before the defense has even started. Anyone with a functioning brain knows KAREN IS INNOCENT

  • @WhitePaint5775
    @WhitePaint5775 Před měsícem +87

    The McAlberts are so shady

  • @TKE1009
    @TKE1009 Před měsícem +60

    The manner in which the McCabe's speak in their testimony about their "friends" John and Karen is despicable, IMO.

    • @katelynbrown98
      @katelynbrown98 Před 29 dny +5

      Right. She's annoyed her friend was in hysterics bc her husband was missing in a snowstorm

    • @rachelLadyD
      @rachelLadyD Před 29 dny +6

      I thought it was telling Karen went with them in the morning not protected from snow. The others had their hoods up, were guarded, looked with heads down walking tentatively and guarded like sick with guilt, Karen looked genuinely worried why he didn't come home, like she was the only one clueless about the scene she was about to encounter. The way the woman Jen described Karen as 'straddling' her dead boyfriends body was honestly rude and disrespectful, trying to make Karen look bad,

    • @TKE1009
      @TKE1009 Před 29 dny

      @@rachelLadyD You make excellent points here, I didn't even think of these things, but you are so right! I truly felt Jen McCabe especially made a very purposeful attempt to make KR sound "crazy" and delusional in her testimony on Friday. They're really trying to "sell" the prosecution's motive. I suppose in their minds they have no other choice. But an innocent woman (KR) should not have to pay for their "alleged" cover-up.

    • @TKE1009
      @TKE1009 Před 29 dny

      @@katelynbrown98 sure sounded like that. I really felt while listening to Jen McCabe testify that she was attempting to "over-sell" the KR is crazy and delusional = motive for murder narrative that the prosecution has put forth. Why would the McCabe's bother to do this unless they and the Alberts truly do have much to hide (allegedly)!?!

    • @AnnaChristie-vp4ip
      @AnnaChristie-vp4ip Před 28 dny

      @TKE1009
      And your drunk driver buddy Karen who can't look after her bf?

  • @mylesmontclair
    @mylesmontclair Před měsícem +91

    Vinnie and Court TV. The guests you have for this case are a joke. Do better.

    • @marcopalazzo9349
      @marcopalazzo9349 Před měsícem +12

      Those two muppets didn't even watch the trial.

    • @sandcastlesp
      @sandcastlesp Před měsícem +13

      Nick Rocco is a joke

    • @user-lv1wn3ff1u
      @user-lv1wn3ff1u Před 29 dny +14

      Keep in mind one of these so called panelist is Collin Alberts lawyer that was hired before he even got questioned about this case. How many kids Collins age keep a lawyer on retainer , especially if they weren't a witness to anything? And even if he was a witness to something if he didn't commit a crime himself he wouldn't need legal representation for? It only shows Collin is guilty of something

    • @jacofalltrades7610
      @jacofalltrades7610 Před 29 dny +9

      ​@@user-lv1wn3ff1ukevin is an idiot, but i really dont understand why theyd have someone DIRECTLY connected to a witness!
      it is crime journalism malpractice imo. i feel like vinnie dies inside when kevin talks too long

    • @jacofalltrades7610
      @jacofalltrades7610 Před 29 dny +2

      ​@@sandcastlesphi kevin 😅

  • @Lifeisshortby
    @Lifeisshortby Před měsícem +30

    One fact for sure,they’re all a bunch of drunks. Off duty cops wife’s,and girlfriends driving around drunk ,they do this because they know on duty cops won’t arrest them.

    • @hangemhigh3578
      @hangemhigh3578 Před měsícem +4

      Exactly and they are worse than ordinary people.

  • @tll5293
    @tll5293 Před měsícem +104

    The panel is so DUMB!!!

    • @Floridafanatic28
      @Floridafanatic28 Před měsícem +9

      Completely agree! Especially that Joseph dude. He's clueless, lol!

    • @MaraCrocker
      @MaraCrocker Před měsícem +13

      Before I watched the panel, I thought you must have been exaggerating. Nope.

    • @TKE1009
      @TKE1009 Před měsícem +18

      @@Floridafanatic28Exactly! Clueless and also temporarily represented Colin Albert - completely biased and should not be on this panel, IMO.

    • @eleanorsvenson2958
      @eleanorsvenson2958 Před měsícem +9

      Thanks for the heads up. I’m not watching then.

    • @TKE1009
      @TKE1009 Před měsícem +16

      @@MaraCrocker Before I researched all of the facts we know so far in this case, I thought conspiracies such as alleged in this case were ridiculous and that KR was likely guilty. Now...in the words of Trooper Proctor, "NOPE", lol.

  • @derins1609
    @derins1609 Před měsícem +97

    Commonwealth vs Common Sense

    • @Rumi-Descendant
      @Rumi-Descendant Před měsícem +4

      lol no kidding 😂

    • @TimU2Cool
      @TimU2Cool Před měsícem +3

      Hopefully some of the people on the jury have just a little common sense 😮

    • @ladyberd4
      @ladyberd4 Před měsícem +1

      EXACTLY

    • @ferventheat
      @ferventheat Před měsícem +4

      ​@@TimU2Cooloh yeah, people have reported how the juror's are responding: waiting on every word from defense attorneys , meh for the boring, slow and low energy prosecution attorney. They are just like you and me: they smell the BS and the courage of Karen to fight this corrupt town. She's gonna win. Place your bets please 😜😊

    • @user-nh5ew9ck4z
      @user-nh5ew9ck4z Před měsícem +1

      nice!

  • @lenemostert9849
    @lenemostert9849 Před měsícem +8

    Can’t wait for cross examination on Tuesday! Jackson is going to shred Jen to pieces! 😂😂 Thinking Jen’s believable… you are crazy!

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +2

      Her phone doesn’t lie. Either does the video of them going to the house. Either does the conditions that morning. I think you are clutching. Karen is as evil as it gets.

    • @lenemostert9849
      @lenemostert9849 Před 29 dny +1

      @@stevenprice6957 so you’re saying the FBI expert is lying about the Google search? She already contradicted herself. Testifying Karen showed them the taillight and screamed when they stopped at John’s house, but the video shows all 3 women going into John’s house the moment they stopped! 🤣

  • @user-ji5gz5fu3g
    @user-ji5gz5fu3g Před 29 dny +8

    KR’s PREVIOUS ADMISSIONS (EXAMPLES):
    1. WBZ-TV Report 3 Feb 2022 (on YT) regarding the court hearing on 2 February 2022 (where KR faced the charges relating to JO’s death and was released on $50k bail) and upon questioning (as verified by the above report on YT) she told LE:
    - She dropped JO off because she was having stomach issues.
    - She made a 3 point turn in the road and left.
    - She did not see JO enter the house (this contradicts her interviews a year later).
    - Therefore confirming she did take JO to the Alberts house in her SUV (verifying the sightings of her SUV out the front are true).
    - She first observed her broken taillight that morning and did not know how she broke it (this contradicts the allegation it was due to hitting JO’s SUV that morning - if she had hit JO’s SUV at around 5:00 am she would have known exactly why her taillight was broken and said so if it were true (story that’s also come out later).
    - Confirmed she had said at the time of finding JO: “I hit him” - 4 times.
    - Both her and Yannetti (representing her) were in the court and accepted the above with no denials.
    - It’s been said, Yannetti had referred to the incident as being an accident when speaking to the media outside the Stoughton District Court and managed to negotiate a plea deal of 16 months but KR rejected it (didn’t want to do jail time).
    2. Boston 25 News on 8 August 2023 (on YT) - Parents interview whereby her father says she told him (shortly after JO was found and as verified by the above interview on YT) that:
    - “Dad I think I struck something”.
    - “I remember backing up and hitting something”.
    This is obviously referring to hitting JO, otherwise if she was referring to (allegedly) hitting his SUV she would know and say that, and would not be using the word “something”.
    KR was probably quite/very intoxicated. We know she and JO didn’t eat at the WF and there is no mention of them eating at CFM either. Possibly no food in her stomach since lunch time at work (approximately 12 hours before) and we know she was loving the alcohol (she stole a drink from one bar to take it to the other).
    THE ABOVE ARE IN TOTAL CONTRADICTION OF THE DEFENSE AT THIS TRIAL AND THE CONSPIRACY THEORY.
    Also it was only after a year later when the state upgraded the charges to second degree murder, that the whole alleged conspiracy theory was formulated and began, and also at that time she began alleging that she saw JO go into the Albert’s house (which she had never said before).
    * The truth never changes nor does it need a good memory *

    • @lyxiagaming
      @lyxiagaming Před 29 dny +4

      Thank you, great comment. Unfortunately most people will not read this because they dont have the brain capacity to process details like this..

    • @EC-dz3fb
      @EC-dz3fb Před 29 dny +4

      👏Thank you!

    • @user-ji5gz5fu3g
      @user-ji5gz5fu3g Před 29 dny +3

      @@lyxiagamingYou’re welcome. Thank you for taking the time to read it and I hope it was helpful in some way. I agree certain people won’t read it, or may but they will but then ignore it because they don’t want to hear it as it goes against their narrative. It’s certainly an interesting case but could be a total waste of tax payers money sadly and in the event KR really should have obtained a plea deal.

    • @user-ji5gz5fu3g
      @user-ji5gz5fu3g Před 29 dny +3

      @@EC-dz3fb​​⁠You’re welcome. Thank you for taking the time to read it and hope it was helpful in some way.

    • @citigirlcountrified1927
      @citigirlcountrified1927 Před 28 dny +1

      ​he reason it became more of a defense was that karen hired someone to extract the phone records. Smart move.

  • @HRUnknown-xe4pp
    @HRUnknown-xe4pp Před měsícem +112

    Oh Jen, LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!

    • @TheLydia1011
      @TheLydia1011 Před měsícem +4

      attack is your only form of defence. Karen is going down

    • @HRUnknown-xe4pp
      @HRUnknown-xe4pp Před měsícem

      @TheLydia1011 🖕🏻No, she's not.

    • @JohnR-it1dj
      @JohnR-it1dj Před měsícem +5

      ​@@TheLydia1011Wanna bet?

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +2

      @@JohnR-it1djThey don’t have any money to bet or i would be.

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +1

      Text msgs says he isn’t lying. Footage of them going to John’s house says it’s true. I know you’d want far to be lying if you are a Karen supporter but facts are facts. John didn’t go in. We know that. So do you unless you want to ignore facts.

  • @MissteryDiva
    @MissteryDiva Před měsícem +42

    Even if she hit him-Autopsy shows beaten to death, dog bites & hypothermia-Brian & Colin Albert & Higgins brought John down to basement.John reported Colin for dealing drugs which led to his arrest

    • @cherylj7460
      @cherylj7460 Před měsícem +8

      How do you know the autopsy results before they’re presented in court? Can you cite a source? I’d like to read those reports.

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem

      Lol

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +3

      @@cherylj7460Pretrial hearings and the grand jury indictment.

    • @kathywedzik4905
      @kathywedzik4905 Před měsícem

      John reported colin for dealing drugs?? Is this a confirmed fact? Thats a motive if so!

    • @hugostiglitz5976
      @hugostiglitz5976 Před 29 dny +1

      Hypothermia? Dang that must’ve been a cold basement.

  • @kowgyrl
    @kowgyrl Před měsícem +14

    When you have on your conspiracy glasses and headphones, everything you see and hear will look and sound like a conspiracy

  • @PJ_222
    @PJ_222 Před měsícem +24

    My take on Jen she was crushing on John thats why she never took to a friendship with Karen. Remember how Jen would be involved with his kids. I would bet the bank on it!!
    A bored house wife, bitter that Karen came onto the scene. She seething with dislike & jealousy that John didn't except her advances suddle or bold. 911 call theres a Man passed out on the lawn. Yes the Crime Family are all in on it. Karen was "Framed" Absolutely You gotta question Matt & Jen anticipation of John coming inside the house? Looking out windows, doors, texts!!!

    • @amyfromcali9051
      @amyfromcali9051 Před měsícem +5

      @PJ_222 - definitely agree. She had a crush on John & disliked/was jealous of Karen. If some other chick was texting my boyfriend that much, that’s be a hell no for me .

    • @debraronan8389
      @debraronan8389 Před měsícem

      Joseph must have rose colored glasses on.....

    • @PJ_222
      @PJ_222 Před měsícem

      @@debraronan8389 Not sure who you are referring to (Joseph)? I do know Matt McCabe surely did or did long ago Marrying Jen!!

    • @Democracy-tj5dl
      @Democracy-tj5dl Před 25 dny +1

      AGREE 100%. She kept looking out the window waiting for John to arrive. Jenn is creepy!

  • @beverleykeller5950
    @beverleykeller5950 Před měsícem +90

    THIS jenn is a liar!!! When you lie,you can't keep your story straight !!!???? One minutes she see's full red lights in Karen's car and the next minute she says the light was broken???????

    • @koreo7318
      @koreo7318 Před měsícem +7

      Didn't the lights look absolutely fine in the police dash cam too?!

    • @KathleenHelms-nq1vk
      @KathleenHelms-nq1vk Před měsícem +3

      Cops probably broke the light.

    • @Kauai_Aloha
      @Kauai_Aloha Před měsícem +3

      You can tell that she's lying, just look at her eyes 👁️👁️

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem

      @@koreo7318at 640am lol. Yeah ok.

    • @jtjones4081
      @jtjones4081 Před měsícem

      The thanks Jen and Kerry get for being there for KR at 5:00 in the morning during a blizzard is to be accused of redrum. If KR calls, don’t answer.

  • @freyacollins5264
    @freyacollins5264 Před měsícem +34

    Johns family and friends are good people and seem wonderful parents

  • @Drewp617
    @Drewp617 Před měsícem +33

    Kevin should of stuck with big foot theories

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +3

      The defence will come up with that one soon. I mean I’m surprised they haven’t gone down the kangaroo theory yet. Karen did it and no one else.

    • @bethanybergeson4192
      @bethanybergeson4192 Před měsícem +5

      Ugh, he annoys me to no end. So does the attorney.

    • @jewels07
      @jewels07 Před měsícem +2

      @@stevenprice6957 lol….go have another drink 🤦‍♀️.

  • @Evelyn-minoux
    @Evelyn-minoux Před měsícem +35

    I believe this is indeed a coverup by the Alberts. Sounds wild, but there is no way Karen killed John with her car. She was the only person in that group who was desperate enough to go look for him and find out what really happened.

    • @65cj55
      @65cj55 Před 29 dny +3

      Yes, and she found him, right where she left him, even seen him laying in the dark before they reached the tree line.

    • @katelynbrown98
      @katelynbrown98 Před 29 dny +1

      Right. And Jennifer had the nerve to say that another woman called Karen crazy. Even if she did hit him, I don't think it'd be murder. Maybe manslaughter.

    • @65cj55
      @65cj55 Před 29 dny +1

      @@katelynbrown98 Not sure about crazy, but definitily short tempered and controlling..

    • @dukedematteo1995
      @dukedematteo1995 Před 29 dny +1

      It does sound wild and OJ-like, and dumb.

    • @jtjones4081
      @jtjones4081 Před 29 dny +1

      If I dropped my girlfriend off at a house the night before and she didn’t come home I would assume she stayed there and would wait until a reasonable hour, say 8:00 am, and call that house. That’s what anyone would do. The house wasn’t in the projects, FFS. If they said she never came in the house I’d only then start to worry. Why was KR so crazy at 4:30 am??? Why did she assume something bad happened?? Hint, she knew.

  • @tommyconnolly7749
    @tommyconnolly7749 Před měsícem +24

    When is " Motive" going to start???????

    • @kabbystevens5167
      @kabbystevens5167 Před měsícem +9

      When do we get evidence????

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem

      Jealousy? Who knows. Maybe she’s just a nut job. Women kill and mostly people they love once loved. They don’t kill strangers like men do.

    • @kristenpino4635
      @kristenpino4635 Před měsícem +5

      The jury doesn't even know what the States theory is! Lol

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +7

      @@kristenpino4635The jury will have to believe that Karen, the after party skipper, was SO heavily intoxicated and angry that she reversed on ice at over 20mph into John. Sent him flying TEN FEET from the curb onto the Albert yard and it gave him 2 black eyes, multiple skull fractures, a cut on his nose, and 2 inch laceration to the back of his head. BUT he didnt pass instantly after such an impact that only slightly cracked Karen’s taillight. He lay for hours on the lawn to succumb to hypothermia but was never seen by any passer by. Yet, Allison knows Colin wasn’t at the house when John was there.

    • @user-nh5ew9ck4z
      @user-nh5ew9ck4z Před měsícem +3

      @@notsorryyouretriggered Took his belt and bit him too.

  • @marcopalazzo9349
    @marcopalazzo9349 Před měsícem +44

    What trial are those two men watching? Lol

    • @user-nh5ew9ck4z
      @user-nh5ew9ck4z Před měsícem +2

      The Payola Salem Witch Trails. lol.

    • @NoGoodDeed13
      @NoGoodDeed13 Před 29 dny

      What trial are the guest panelists throughout the day watching? It is unbelievable to me the B.S. coming out of their mouths

    • @missychelle33
      @missychelle33 Před 27 dny

      Clearly a different one than I am!! lol bc they are even saying things that HAVE NEVER BEEN SAID BY ANY WITNESS!! Where are they getting their info?! KR was talking about his ex gf in the back of the car on the way to find him? No. No one has said that at all. Not once

  • @michellestover2114
    @michellestover2114 Před měsícem +38

    Kevin, literally, stop acting like this is some open and shut case. The way you make excuses for EVERYTHING.. it's DISGUSTING and embarrassing. You can't agree with anything because you have your small little mind made up and thats that.

    • @kabra72
      @kabra72 Před měsícem

      Well, it seems that you also, have your small little mind made up!
      What the hell is wrong with you Turtle culters?? You are all a mean agressive bully mob!

    • @jenniferdokken8250
      @jenniferdokken8250 Před měsícem +2

      I think he has his big chopper teeth made up good Lord!

    • @65cj55
      @65cj55 Před 29 dny

      @@jenniferdokken8250 You can't argue the message, so you attack the messenger.

    • @Mrglock54
      @Mrglock54 Před 29 dny

      I cannot stand that MF Kevin. His face and voice bothers me a lot. 🤬

    • @sierramcclary2897
      @sierramcclary2897 Před 29 dny

      I agree with Kevin. It is an open and shut case.

  • @paulineannevazquez8233
    @paulineannevazquez8233 Před měsícem +54

    All heavy drinkers.

    • @beverleykeller5950
      @beverleykeller5950 Před měsícem +5

      Hot tempered and they believe they are above everyone and anyone!!!!

    • @yogabee2222
      @yogabee2222 Před měsícem +2

      Drunk fools 😮😅

    • @vincedidiana5781
      @vincedidiana5781 Před měsícem +5

      Absolutely. Massachusetts should change its state abbreviation from MA to AA

    • @Anna-cx4tg
      @Anna-cx4tg Před měsícem +3

      Karen the heaviest of them all

    • @YoitsDeMo
      @YoitsDeMo Před 29 dny +2

      @@Anna-cx4tgis your last name albert or mccabe?

  • @SassySouthernSusan
    @SassySouthernSusan Před měsícem +36

    Sandra Birchmore case deserves justice too! Same town. Same cover up. Couldn’t live in this town.

    • @NotoriousOne617
      @NotoriousOne617 Před měsícem

      its amost like they will do anything in this town to hide a murder because Karen wouldn't cop to vehicular homicide now we have this

    • @user-nh5ew9ck4z
      @user-nh5ew9ck4z Před měsícem

      Having the Feds already there investigating that crime- it is starting to look like maybe they saw John as an informant.

    • @user-lv1wn3ff1u
      @user-lv1wn3ff1u Před 29 dny +3

      Would love to know more . Is there anywhere I can look up info on that case as well?

  • @bendoubleu7516
    @bendoubleu7516 Před měsícem +27

    “Hos long to die in cold when we put you there”

    • @boucherjane9424
      @boucherjane9424 Před měsícem

      That was my question why did he look that up if he didn't know he was out the lawn sounds strange to me if they had nothing to hide why not go out and help him! Not cuz they were drinking they were gone and Cops! Then he gets rid of the dog, phone, and house weird

  • @keiththoma2559
    @keiththoma2559 Před měsícem +13

    So per the defense theory JOK enters the home and is assaulted within a few minutes of entering the home? That theory makes 0 sense.

    • @Alemaniaturquia
      @Alemaniaturquia Před měsícem +1

      Can u get kill in 14 minutes yes

    • @jjhenry9064
      @jjhenry9064 Před měsícem

      CW "theory" doesn't make sense, either, and they have the burden. Defense doesn't have to prove a thing. But, they are proving that witnesses were hammered and stetchy, conflicting stories and utter nonsense (butt dials, magic disappearing Jeep, text/phone deletions, etc).

    • @keiththoma2559
      @keiththoma2559 Před měsícem +4

      @@Alemaniaturquia Again though. He walks in and is supposedly assaulted by an individual who wasn't even there at the time almost instantly? The idea that a minor will out of the blue assault a LEO over his brother cutting through the yard a few years ago seems like nonsense to a normal person.

    • @TimU2Cool
      @TimU2Cool Před měsícem +1

      Did you review the testimony of the victims injuries. Totally consistent with assault

    • @keiththoma2559
      @keiththoma2559 Před měsícem

      @@TimU2Cool State ME has yet to testify. The ME report has yet to be made public. Let's see what ME will testimony will say .

  • @Kate72Sweden
    @Kate72Sweden Před měsícem +27

    Watching from Sweden 🇸🇪

    • @user-fe9dj6wq8e
      @user-fe9dj6wq8e Před 28 dny +1

      Ha, Germany here. Looking at it from an European distance, can we agree the evidence seems pretty damning?!

  • @LogicallyLegalThings
    @LogicallyLegalThings Před měsícem +67

    “Tell them the guy never went in the house…”

    • @HimAgain70
      @HimAgain70 Před měsícem +5

      exactly!

    • @Demonace34
      @Demonace34 Před měsícem

      If your friend died and you knew they never came to the house you were at, you'd want to correct the statements made by the news stations suggesting he was there because it was false. Just goes to show why conspiracies are thriving in the landscape today. These people were friends of Johns that wanted justice and make sure the investigators/news weren't putting out bad information to the public. Why are the youtube comments always talking about random one liners from testimony when we have voicemails and testimony of the kids saying how much Karen hated John, and Karen left voicemails to John saying she hated him.

    • @Planet_Shel
      @Planet_Shel Před měsícem +5

      Though the response to the news media probably did indeed need some consistency but, referring to the deceased as 'the guy' seems odd to me. Trying to distance themselves so much. Why?

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +6

      @@Planet_ShelBecause they murdered him. That’s why

    • @serena9543
      @serena9543 Před měsícem +2

      beause he never did

  • @T-coon
    @T-coon Před měsícem +66

    What about the 54 call's to Canton police complaining about Collin 😲 that were not responded too 🤔

    • @luckyme4277
      @luckyme4277 Před měsícem +6

      I missed this calls about what?

    • @tll5293
      @tll5293 Před měsícem +1

      Where did you get this info?

    • @T-coon
      @T-coon Před měsícem +2

      @@tll5293 From LTL & It came out of Tom cpu ' s mouth. T.stamp 147.35 last night.

    • @T-coon
      @T-coon Před měsícem +4

      @@luckyme4277 See my sub comment; there was something I also heard about Collin harassing John Okefe, and someone else said drug's; I just try and Keep people informed about what's being said; it's up to us to find out whether or not it's hearsay. Someone else in comments said that they have it for evidence; who ? I don't know.

    • @drewc771
      @drewc771 Před měsícem +5

      ​@Christ810 what is LTL and who the heck is Tom cpu??

  • @michellestover2114
    @michellestover2114 Před měsícem +9

    So the location data was "not accurate" showing him in the house, the time stamp data was "not accurate" by not changing the date when the texts came in after midnight to/from Colin/Allie. The 3 flights of stairs recorded were also magically "not accurate"... oh and lets not forget the searching for "hos long to die in snow" at 2:27am was magically also, not accurate?? Give me a break!!! John wasn't found until after 6am. How did she know to look that up 4 hours prior? Oh and lets not forget "the guy never went in the house"...........

    • @amyfromcali9051
      @amyfromcali9051 Před měsícem +1

      …which was also, ‘not accurate,’ lol

    • @hugostiglitz5976
      @hugostiglitz5976 Před 29 dny

      I’m in my house right now, and my location shows I’m on the front lawn… idk about you koolaid drinkers

  • @itsjust_Lisa
    @itsjust_Lisa Před 29 dny +4

    I can't wait for that awful, biased lawyer to have to eat his words. I hope Officer O'Keffe's ex girlfriend didn't mind having her name thrown out there in a murder trial.

  • @mykingofkings1439
    @mykingofkings1439 Před měsícem +5

    Why would they need to "frame" her or anyone, when they could've just said they accidentally hit him with their car?
    If they expected his injuries to pass as being hit by her car to "frame" her then...why not just say they hit him??
    If Proctor was prepared to "frame" someone to cover up something then... why wouldn't he just put down as an accidental death??
    This would allow the family to be in the clear and it would've been case closed...
    Why would they frame her for murder, ??..when an accident would be enough for them to get off and avoid a trial.
    The explanation that requires the fewest assumptions is usually the correct one- Occam's razor.
    Karen said in her own interview "I thought, did I unwittingly incapacitate him and in his drunkenness he had passed out"
    In that same interview she says "I saw him walk to the door"...
    Now... if Karen saw him walk to the door then, why would she ever have thought she may have hit him?
    And why didn't she bang the door down on the house that morning...if she knew he had gone in there?
    At the beginning she said..she doesn't remember dropping him off then that changes to... I saw him walk up to the door.

  • @SkippySkippy-oy4eo
    @SkippySkippy-oy4eo Před měsícem +39

    If Karen was in such a hysterical sense, not making sense, how would she remember the word hypothermia? Doesn’t make sense when Jenn said she was talking gibberish…..

    • @Demonace34
      @Demonace34 Před měsícem +9

      It was an act. How does she magically see where John is on the side of the road? (because she is the one who left him there) Even in the cop dashcam you can tell you wouldn't have been able to see off the side of the road without a spotlight looking directly at him. Karen led them both back there, acting crazy, asking if she could have hit him (to multiple people). Karen had plenty of time to think about her act when she stayed up from 2-4:45 to make sure he died (Johns bed was made which means no one slept in it that night).

    • @nikkimclay5474
      @nikkimclay5474 Před měsícem +13

      @@Demonace34why go back to the scene of crime & incriminate yourself ?

    • @Planet_Shel
      @Planet_Shel Před měsícem +6

      I think JM was sniffing snow while JO was in the snow. Sad.

    • @janeevans1859
      @janeevans1859 Před měsícem +2

      @@Demonace34she might have slept on it rather than in it but we only have Jens word for it that it wasn’t slept in. If she didn’t, where was she all night? It’s barely half way through the case. Let’s see what the defence presents

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +1

      @@Demonace34😂😂😂🤡🤣

  • @Dream_suburb
    @Dream_suburb Před měsícem +39

    But they forgot to change the date on screenshot from 28th to 29th, after midnight ❗
    Falsificationof evidence, ccccc ccc c 😡

    • @nuorigin
      @nuorigin Před měsícem +5

      Yes and the judge should have made her authenticate that before she let her perjure herself

    • @B.Weiser
      @B.Weiser Před měsícem +1

      There was also a comma after the date- there are no commas on an iPhone

    • @ferventheat
      @ferventheat Před měsícem +1

      Screenshots!! The investigators could have demanded the phones and downloaded all the data, not rely on witnesses submitting their own evidence. This is a deliberate effort by the investigation team to make it easy for the witnesses and subvert justice for John.

    • @kabra72
      @kabra72 Před měsícem

      DEBUNKED...look at your iphone and see what it does!

  • @13k1ngs
    @13k1ngs Před měsícem +36

    Vinnie ,please tell whoever does your intro to stop showing Kevin Linehans video. It shows Officer O'Keefe being hit ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE HEAD in that video

    • @CheeekyKitty
      @CheeekyKitty Před měsícem +3

      Yes, THIS! If you’re going to intro with that, might as well the name to “Kangaroo Court TV.”

    • @YoitsDeMo
      @YoitsDeMo Před 29 dny +3

      Just stop having kevin on at all. Giving him screen time he doesn’t deserve

  • @TimU2Cool
    @TimU2Cool Před měsícem +15

    NOT GUILTY. NOT PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT

  • @ldyresq
    @ldyresq Před měsícem +6

    I needed this detailed recap so much👏👏 Thanks Vinnie!!

  • @nozza17
    @nozza17 Před měsícem +83

    Watching from Glasgow Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.. that poor man was murdered in that house..

    • @jeffreyfrerichs1078
      @jeffreyfrerichs1078 Před měsícem +6

      No way Alfalfa.

    • @Evelyn-minoux
      @Evelyn-minoux Před měsícem

      100% agree. The state’s explanation makes no sense, coupled with a sketchy police investigation… no way Karen is guilty.

    • @kabra72
      @kabra72 Před měsícem +1

      NO, he wasn't

    • @mandimoo4073
      @mandimoo4073 Před měsícem

      There is a little bit of doubt.

    • @Democracy-tj5dl
      @Democracy-tj5dl Před 25 dny +1

      Yes he was & they got rid of their cellphones, when ordered to turn them in.

  • @stateradio115
    @stateradio115 Před měsícem +13

    I think it's more likely that Karen accidentally hit John. Not sure why the DA charged her with murder as there's very little evidence to support it. That said, there is some interesting evidence suggesting a coverup. As a result, that puts reasonable doubt into any argument the prosecution makes and the jury should find her not guilty. There also could be an acquittal.

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +6

      Because she left him there even if at first it was an accident. If she chooses to get help he could have possibly lived. She didn’t. That’s murder in the 2nd. That’s the law.

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem

      @@stevenprice6957For the sake of all women in society. Seek therapy and mental health resources.

    • @VictoriaLeigh313
      @VictoriaLeigh313 Před 29 dny +3

      It also seems plausible that one of them may have accidentally hit him, resulting in them covering it up. It's definitely a twisted case and so far, there's way too much reasonable doubt IMHO

    • @ylianacarlisle9994
      @ylianacarlisle9994 Před 29 dny +1

      @@VictoriaLeigh313 I agree. I don’t think he went into the house. But something definitely happened to him outside like an accident and it could have very well been caused by someone in that house. But I don’t think he was intentionally murdered by anyone.

    • @VictoriaLeigh313
      @VictoriaLeigh313 Před 29 dny +1

      @@ylianacarlisle9994 the one thing I know for sure with this case is that there is entirely too much reasonable doubt for a guilty verdict

  • @steve10
    @steve10 Před 29 dny +3

    If she sees a car outside at 12.30am , and believes its john , and then texts him at 12.40am., then how is it she doesn't see or hear the so called "murder" , if you are hanging around listening out for someone you think is outside then you would be alert enough to hear a car reversing at speed.
    It's all BS.
    There was no hitting him with a car at all , she is basically saying that in 10 minutes of wondering where John was that no one saw or heard an accident.

    • @jacofalltrades7610
      @jacofalltrades7610 Před 29 dny

      you are a liar because karen is guilty because center console. duh
      - Kevin

  • @user-ji5gz5fu3g
    @user-ji5gz5fu3g Před 29 dny +3

    THE JO WENT INTO THE HOUSE THING:
    1. KR never said JO went in to, or to, the Albert’s house until a year later when the conspiracy theory was formulated.
    2. She never told LE that at the time (she said she dropped him off - no mention of him going in to, or to, the house).
    3. “WBZ-TV Report” - 3 Feb 2022 (on YT) regarding the court hearing on 2 February 2022 (verifying what she told LE at the time).
    4. Via interviews after the conspiracy theory began a year later, she then said this but has given two different stories (contradicting the first story above that she didn’t see either of these things):
    - She saw him go into the house.
    - She saw him go up to the front door of the house.
    5. Interviews:
    - ABC News - ‘Accused slain cop’s girlfriend maintains innocence | Nightline’ (on YT).
    - TODAY - New questions emerge surrounding ‘Taillight Murder’ (on YT).
    6. Proving KR has given three different stories at different times as to JO and the house and coming across as telling lies and can’t get her story straight.
    Ordinarily: THE TRUTH NEVER CHANGES and DOESN’T NEED A GOOD MEMORY!

  • @system_error2510
    @system_error2510 Před měsícem +10

    justice 4 O`Keefe !❤ free Assange ! ❤

  • @enigma_-_79
    @enigma_-_79 Před 29 dny +3

    When I watch anything about the Read case, I pray that I am never asked to be a witness to a crime.
    These family members are not being treated as witnesses, they are treated as if they were perpetrators of a murder. It’s awful and immoral.
    The rabble outside are turning this trial into a circus. It’s deplorable to think that this is where our legal system is today.

    • @BoxerClover
      @BoxerClover Před 29 dny +2

      couldn't have said it better myself.

    • @Democracy-tj5dl
      @Democracy-tj5dl Před 25 dny +1

      They are part of the family coverup. Have you been following ALL of this?

    • @enigma_-_79
      @enigma_-_79 Před 25 dny

      @@Democracy-tj5dl
      🤣🤣🤣
      She ran over him. Family cover up my a$$

  • @serena9543
    @serena9543 Před měsícem +9

    She told ABC news that she watched him go into the house. But the next morning said she didnt remember ever going there?

    • @theartsypixie2771
      @theartsypixie2771 Před měsícem

      Who did she say that too?

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +2

      How are you misquoting your own references? She said she watched him walk up the driveway. NEVER said she saw him go inside. Watch her interview and try listening for once.

    • @theartsypixie2771
      @theartsypixie2771 Před měsícem +3

      @@notsorryyouretriggered I only heard Jennifer state she said she didn't remember being there and uhh well Jennifer and her husband's micro expressions don't convey truthfulness to me.

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +2

      @@theartsypixie2771 They’re all liars

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +1

      @@notsorryyouretriggeredlol.

  • @user-ji5gz5fu3g
    @user-ji5gz5fu3g Před 29 dny +3

    MATT McCABE “THE GUY” thing:
    1. This was regarding what to say to the media.
    2. JO’s name had not been publicly released at that point so technically JO was at that time “the guy” and could not be named, hence Matt said “tell them the guy ……”!
    3. It also came across to me that Matt would be the best person who knew how to deal with the media (what to do and say) rather than Chris, for reasons that go without saying.

  • @Rumi-Descendant
    @Rumi-Descendant Před měsícem +32

    Jen McCabe is that narcissist manipulative soccer mom that we all want to avoid lol looking forward to her cross tomorrow😅

  • @LindaTaz
    @LindaTaz Před měsícem +30

    With all this activity and yet nobody saw a body laying in the front lawn. And expect the jury and the public to believe their testimonies😂

  • @amandahall476
    @amandahall476 Před měsícem +21

    They texted eachother about "the guy was never in the house". Got them there, no getting around that

  • @marrietvisser6195
    @marrietvisser6195 Před 29 dny +2

    What a nice reward for drinking yourself so drunk to the point that you don't know or remember what happened or what you have done 🙄

  • @maximoo79
    @maximoo79 Před měsícem +42

    Hos long to die in the cold at 2.30am!!!!

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +2

      6:30 more like it. Great story though. Sound like the defence

    • @maximoo79
      @maximoo79 Před měsícem +1

      @@stevenprice6957 see what the technology experts state.

    • @jill2675
      @jill2675 Před měsícem +1

      She is a liar, just like the rest of them

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +7

      @@stevenprice6957Try living in reality. Just because Karen reminds you of the women who reject you; doesn’t mean she did this. You’re desperate

    • @Jamlf
      @Jamlf Před měsícem +7

      @@stevenprice6957 Well, hopefully they have her cellphone and they can check the time of the google search. Don't need guess work when they have cellphone data. Which funny enough the prosecution never brought up. They could easily have shown when the google search happened.

  • @doreenhuston9623
    @doreenhuston9623 Před měsícem +9

    Jen McCabe didn’t hear Nagle say she saw something on the lawn when she said she was turned in her seat talking to the girls.

  • @B.Weiser
    @B.Weiser Před měsícem +13

    Jen is such a liar

  • @LaurieDean-wy3xb
    @LaurieDean-wy3xb Před měsícem +1

    That was great!! I needed that!

  • @rickeyrick1
    @rickeyrick1 Před měsícem +15

    Funny, this idiot lawyer describes how he somehow saw him in "whiteout conditions" and WHILE HE'S SAYING THAT court TV puts the dash cam video on screen and you can see all the way down the block clearly. LOL

  • @Deanna_422
    @Deanna_422 Před 29 dny +3

    I still think Brian Higgins and his Jeep have more to do with this. They are trying to protect a cop not save the one who was killed at their house.

  • @bikersdream58
    @bikersdream58 Před měsícem +12

    No DNA of dogs! Beaten WHY? She could have hit him and left she doesn’t look like an Angel to me!

    • @TimU2Cool
      @TimU2Cool Před měsícem +3

      What caused the marks on his arm?

  • @Janevelyn
    @Janevelyn Před měsícem +2

    Vinnie you absolutely positively rock!!! I wanted to make what surely would be an amateur rendering of this family tree by rewatching everything to date. You saved me so much time and aggravation!

    • @missychelle33
      @missychelle33 Před 27 dny

      No he doesn’t. He states false things, and makes things up bc they sound great on air. He’s no journalist

  • @ivanbanda559
    @ivanbanda559 Před měsícem +1

    Been wiring for this video!!

  • @betty-janececile5214
    @betty-janececile5214 Před měsícem +9

    Wrong side of the car omg

  • @JulieCarroll-bo7jx
    @JulieCarroll-bo7jx Před měsícem +14

    Watching from 🇬🇧

  • @PhotographerAZ
    @PhotographerAZ Před 29 dny +1

    WOW Vinnie, This really helped me with the photos / names... AND I watch every day in court. You should send this as a demonstrative aid to the lawyers for those poor jurors!

  • @mikevanderslice6744
    @mikevanderslice6744 Před měsícem +8

    The lawyer crossing Mr. McCabe missed a "Few Good Men" moment. The next question after McCabe said that "it's not a story, it's a fact," should have been "if it WAS a fact that John never went into the house, why would it be necessary to instruct people to 'say the guy never went in the house'?"
    If he never went in the house, nobody would have had to tell anybody else to speak that truth, right?

  • @Miss_Cherry
    @Miss_Cherry Před měsícem +32

    If i killed someone, I'm not leaving him on my lawn!

    • @SkippySkippy-oy4eo
      @SkippySkippy-oy4eo Před měsícem +17

      You do if blaming someone else

    • @1e2b9-
      @1e2b9- Před měsícem +4

      Well, good for you

    • @TheAngryKilljoy
      @TheAngryKilljoy Před měsícem +12

      Well if someone was found dead on my lawn I would expect my house would be the first place searched and that I would be first person they questioned and investigated. If I knew that wouldn’t happen perhaps I wouldn’t bother to move a body any further than that.

    • @josephkain6213
      @josephkain6213 Před měsícem +15

      Except when you can control the entire narrative.

    • @Miss_Cherry
      @Miss_Cherry Před měsícem +6

      ​@SkippySkippy-oy4eo no, actually, I would not. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe its a setup. I just don't.

  • @kowgyrl
    @kowgyrl Před měsícem +5

    I think the water has gotten too muddied up. I don't think it's that complicated, it was just an accident, she accidentally hit him and panicked. Let her go, let everyone move on with their lives and heal from this mess.

    • @hugostiglitz5976
      @hugostiglitz5976 Před 29 dny +2

      How dare you not drink the Kool-Aid?… ONE OF US, ONE OF US!

    • @kowgyrl
      @kowgyrl Před 29 dny +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @josephkain6213
    @josephkain6213 Před měsícem +21

    I don't recall,
    But it is definitely not whatever all the technology shows. 🙄

    • @afrodeity1576
      @afrodeity1576 Před měsícem +2

      😆😆😆😆😆!!!👍

    • @missychelle33
      @missychelle33 Před 27 dny +1

      Right. To even try to claim that that info is wrong? Lol the audacity. Also even stating proctor got her statements wrong? It’s all the same BS

  • @jaybee508
    @jaybee508 Před měsícem +5

    I don't know that makes Nick Rocco an "expert". He's a hairstylist with no educational background or experience but just wants to demoralize those with credentials. He doesn't need to be on this show.

  • @crimetimeAU
    @crimetimeAU Před měsícem +4

    Jen McCabe has crazy eyes. Also I heard Jen say "did I hit him" not "I hit him"

    • @BoxerClover
      @BoxerClover Před měsícem

      kr was the 1 who said 'it was preceded by a did & proceeded by a question mark.' so jen just helped her out. but we can't have that so spin away.

  • @AllanAnderson-mp7eo
    @AllanAnderson-mp7eo Před měsícem +13

    Watching from the land of the Kangaroo.

  • @Jeremy-th5pt
    @Jeremy-th5pt Před 28 dny

    All the thick Boston accents make this case even more fun.

  • @pdtenn6829
    @pdtenn6829 Před měsícem +8

    Tomorrow is going to be fun watching Jen get shown to the world how cruel she is

    • @926paaja
      @926paaja Před měsícem +1

      Let’s hope she stops the constant mouth smacking like a freaking suction cup 😂

  • @starsalways7922
    @starsalways7922 Před měsícem +4

    "Have Chris ask some questions" Matt McCabe making orders for the cops on the investigation???

  • @stephaniemichele_truecrime
    @stephaniemichele_truecrime Před měsícem +30

    No mention of what KR supposedly said in any police reports!

  • @9Greyskies
    @9Greyskies Před měsícem +22

    This whole thing is either crazy bonkers or just a drunk angry girlfriend who made a huge mistake.

    • @yogabee2222
      @yogabee2222 Před měsícem +8

      Yes, but the injuries don't make sense?

    • @RcPlayer-tt2vw
      @RcPlayer-tt2vw Před měsícem

      Because we had experts about the cold and different factors when dying from impact cold. Don’t you think the ME would know had he been killed. , he didn’t have gaping wounds.

    • @TKE1009
      @TKE1009 Před měsícem +5

      @@yogabee2222 exactly! Plus, the autopsy report John lost over HALF of the blood in his body, yet only a handful of drops of blood are surrounding him where he was found on the lawn. WHERE is the rest of the blood that he lost? The injuries and total lack of blood near his body simply makes NO sense, IMO.

    • @texelizabeth6969
      @texelizabeth6969 Před měsícem

      Yanetti said years ago that it was car accident till they came up with this 70+ people conspiracy theory.

    • @jenniferdokken8250
      @jenniferdokken8250 Před měsícem +1

      It’s the latter.. one of the officers sons had a beef with O’Keefe and I’m sure because he was only like 18 and drinking inebriated that when O’Keefe walked in he went straight into accusatory mode because he knew he’d have back up from all the other policmen friends of his father…in case things went south…
      his dad and everyone else at the party that were inebriated..( he’s the kid flipping the bird to the camera..shirtless in a pair of shorts at a patio table in the photograph they show) he hated O’Keefe and I’m sure he had enough ‘liquid courage’ as an inexperienced drinker …that was provided by his dad and others, who were police officers that knew they were serving an underage kid. This is the reason they are covering it up so much because they all be up to their eyeballs in lawsuits if they didn’t band together to form a story! Thick. Blue line of lies

  • @hashachache
    @hashachache Před měsícem +14

    I have been banged into by a sharply reversing car, it jack-knifed my leg under the bumper, very unpleasant but the broad impacting metal couldn't make my eyes look like "ping-pong balls".....so then there's the knuckles looking obviously like that young guy's been battering someone........alcohol impedes healing, impedes vitamin C assimilation......& we'd definitely call him a 'lager-lout'. So maybe the knuckle damage is from pounding O'Keefe's face, obviously striking the forehead bone. 42:16

  • @pjhaze
    @pjhaze Před měsícem +17

    Lol @ “insiders” but no Aidan Kearny? It’s a joke

  • @alliealaska7858
    @alliealaska7858 Před měsícem +2

    Lol the paramedic acquaintance?😄

  • @Sleeplessinsilverlakes
    @Sleeplessinsilverlakes Před měsícem +7

    I am wondering why Jen would send those texts to John if he were indeed there and went inside

    • @PoeticBostonian
      @PoeticBostonian Před měsícem +4

      To make it look good?

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +3

      She wouldn’t. It’s ludicrous. It’s actually comedy that the defence puts this crap up. Next it will be a kangaroo that killed him. Karen is guilty

    • @GPDogDrool
      @GPDogDrool Před měsícem +3

      ​@@stevenprice6957 So explain why she would delete the multiple other calls to his phone that night? What was the reason to do that?

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 Před měsícem +1

      @@GPDogDroolI delete all calls every day. What’s to explain? Lol. They have his phone and know her phone called him so what’s the point of your argument? The texts are there in black and white. Karen is in the car with him at that time. Jen is wondering why the heck they aren’t coming in. They were arguing at this time in the car. Eventually John gets out and she hits him and his phone doesn’t move seconds after she reversed at speed. His phone stays on the lawn underneath him. Explain that. First Karen said she left him at the pub. Then when caught in a lie she switched stories many times. She Karen demanded to go to 34 Fairview. Then runs out of the car saying there’s John. No one could see anything but she knows it’s John ? Seriously explain that. Why say she hit him. She’s a deadly dangerous nut job. She hit him whether trying to scare him or just being angry and hit him. She could have gotten help there and then but panicked, went home and sat on it for hours. Probably scared frantic as anyone would be. John’s daughter asks where is he ? Her reply having a sleep over which he never did. If he’s having a sleep over then why the panic at 5:30 when she rings Karen through the daughters phone ? Why are you panicking if he’s having a sleep over ? It’s plain as day she is the culprit. The rest of it is fairy story stuff. Next it will be a kangaroo that attacked John. She admitted it. Her lawyer said it was a total accident then they changed tacks. Who’s story telling here. 4 different stories from Karen. The daughter will testify. She’s going down if justice is served properly.

    • @GPDogDrool
      @GPDogDrool Před měsícem +1

      ​@@stevenprice6957 Oh you poor thing. Apparently you have no comprehension of actual facts.
      I could spend as much wasted space as you but its not worth the effort time since you are obviously void of any individual thinking. Lets just state for one simple thing John does not have a daughter. It's his niece. And Karen woke her up to get Jen's phone number. But you've already proven you have no facts so I'm out.

  • @shelleyplemons1362
    @shelleyplemons1362 Před měsícem +9

    A conspiracy theory is really tough for me because that means you would have to have people of all ages lie and keep their mouth shut. I mean, do we think that he walked in the house and they started attacking him beating him up killing him in front of everybody in the house and everyone agreed to not tell! That doesn’t make sense. Don’t think you could find that many teenagers and adults with no ethics and morals and keep them quiet.

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Před měsícem +6

      You’re talking about parents/adults who party with minors and allow their own underaged children to drink and drive. Are you kidding? No ethics/morals are displayed in that fact.

    • @kellymulkins7401
      @kellymulkins7401 Před měsícem

      I agree. It’s always hard to swallow, but this case, it’s bizarre. Something does not make sense. I actually don’t believe either version. I think the truth is somewhere in between. We will most likely never know the whole truth. Small towns can be scary. Lol

    • @LettieB75
      @LettieB75 Před měsícem +2

      Serious jail time for several if not all of them who were in the house between 12:10 am and 6 am. Strong enough motive imo.

    • @MissysAngels
      @MissysAngels Před měsícem +1

      You do realize the younger people may not of seen or heard anything but what they been told… So they think it’s better to defend the parents or relatives… You do not need an army of people, a few related adults, a few younger adults that just go along, and a couple higher up LE like Proctor who has not testified yet. Have you ever watched a trial where on the 4th week no lead detective, no ME, no hospital staff, no recreation of what happened, no charts or diagrams, no evidence collected correctly, preserved correctly and so much more… Lead detective not filming or recording statements at the station. No dumping of phones till a year later, where at least 4 got new ones…

    • @username.invalid763
      @username.invalid763 Před měsícem

      Exactly. People are so gulliable. No way in hell someone wouldn't have bragged by now especially the kid. Karen never would have said did I hit him if she really did see him go in the house bc she wld have known she didn't.

  • @username.invalid763
    @username.invalid763 Před měsícem +8

    She would have NEVER said I HIT HIM if she TRULY saw him go in the house folks.

    • @zsazsabear9643
      @zsazsabear9643 Před 29 dny +3

      She asked... "I hit him"?... it was a question

    • @jenocide632
      @jenocide632 Před 27 dny

      She was in hysterics. Shock will make you utter things and react in a way that is beyond explanation.

    • @Democracy-tj5dl
      @Democracy-tj5dl Před 25 dny +2

      Jenn is not believable. I don't think, "I hit him" was ever said by anyone but Jenn.

  • @allyfox5900
    @allyfox5900 Před 29 dny +1

    The older guy is delusional. He seems like one of the good old slimy boys, we stick together no matter what.

  • @hersheyssmith2104
    @hersheyssmith2104 Před měsícem +2

    That nick roco guy can be a psychic! He knows what happened that night without being present in the crime scene! What a total joke bwahahaha

  • @afrodeity1576
    @afrodeity1576 Před měsícem +4

    Watching from Athens Greece....7 hours time difference....run home after work to catch up!

  • @chrislee4740
    @chrislee4740 Před měsícem +5

    She probably hit him by accident but no one can say there isnt a lot odd coincidences on both sides

    • @alliealaska7858
      @alliealaska7858 Před měsícem

      How did her car claw up his arm?

    • @chrislee4740
      @chrislee4740 Před měsícem

      @@alliealaska7858Its not impossible the suv did it but it does look like an animal attack.

  • @hannahkavli8912
    @hannahkavli8912 Před 29 dny +1

    ODDIDY--why was Kari Roberts in front of the house randomly that morning… and the fact she added “she pulled in bc the plow was behind her” was an odd addition to the store why did she need to qualify that? She could have said she drove by and stopped cause she saw us outside

  • @PoliticalJunky101
    @PoliticalJunky101 Před 29 dny

    This is such a good channel.

  • @jimbook3903
    @jimbook3903 Před měsícem +4

    Kevin is 100% right , you lose faith in your peers seeing them act like that.

  • @arnoldstang7997
    @arnoldstang7997 Před měsícem +4

    The autopsy results will be another key in the case. I assume the prosecutor will call the pathologist to the stand.

    • @thomasgirty6397
      @thomasgirty6397 Před 29 dny +1

      none of his injuries or damage to the car are consistant with what they are saying. the car did'nt bite him.

  • @michellel2773
    @michellel2773 Před 29 dny +1

    Why wouldn't Chris just say he wasn't there that night when asked what happened? Also, what else did Jen say to KR in the car that she's leaving out? Saying KR only saw JO in the yard because she had hit him is ridiculous. They literally drove there looking for him. The McCabes are so disingenuous. Allegedly.
    227, Jen. 227.
    The Brians made a mess, and everyone is covering for them. Allegedly.
    "Tell them the guy was never in the house."

  • @AnnaChristie-vp4ip
    @AnnaChristie-vp4ip Před 29 dny +3

    @popsylol
    Feels bad, doesn't it when a person calls you insane? How would you like thousands calling you insane like Jen has to endure?