Really? Because Jaune looks older than Taiyang. I thought it was 30-40 years for Jaune. But I guess we should just take the RWBY creators at their word.
There's also the fact that time in general makes little sense in this wonderland. Also the cats statement may have been literal rather then tounge and cheek. Maybe he knows what years are but in the ever after years don't work the same or even time in the same zones. So the cats statement could have been him saying it's been so long that he's not even sure how long it's been.
This is my thoughts. Time may not flow consistently between the Ever After and Remnant. So what was probably 20-30 years in the Ever After may well have been 2 to 3 CENTURIES in Remnant considering that "The Girl Who Fell Through the World" is a fairy tale and those tend to be pretty old tbh
@@majoratwili7312 I mean the story this is rifting off of (Alice in Wonderland) was released 158 years ago... so I'd probably assume somewhere around 150 years here. At a minimum. My guessing its a time passes slower here thing. 15 years for Jaune, 150 years outside. Sorta scenario.
@@majoratwili7312 exactly and while the disparity may or may not be quite that drimatic there is no telling how everything works. in one version of digimon one minute in the world was about one day in the digital world. so when tai came back to the real world for a few hours before going back to the digital world for plot reasons it was still the same day he left in the real world with less then an hour passing before he got back to the real world the first time. and by extension ive seen in other things like sci fi movies like the expanse terible movie in my opinion but that's just my opinion take it or leave it. a single hour on another planet was twenty years on earth. so there is literaly no way to know when or where the team will pop out once they leave. heck for all we know the ever after picks random times and places to pick you up and drop you off at with time being meaningless to the tree and thus it was just happenstance or the will of the tree that the siblings ended up in the ever after with jaune. and by that same token they could leave before they even left remnent or a hundred years before or after. it's all rather confusing.
@@VhenRaTheRaptor realistically we can't verify the nature of what a "when" is in ever after, they literally have fruit that fucked you backwards, so we can verify that time as a concept is not linear there, the concept of age may be equally outlandish, you know the saying, 'your only as old as you feel?' In ever after feelings literally form logic and matter, for all we know the only reason Jaune "age" is because of how he literally felt the ages wearing down on him.
I also think it's interesting that the Cat uses 3 different terms when addressing Jaun's presence in the EA. First they say "time" then "years" then "decades"
I would have to guess that Jaune has been in The Ever After for around 2~3 decades. There is a grey streak in his hair, which means either two things: 1) aged to his mid-40s, or 2) he is in his mid-30s, but the stress from his isolation/depression has discolored a portion of his hair.
You can clearly see that he looks younger aside from the beard and that his armor is less fucked. His ascension followed immediately by him finding a group of suicidal paper people to care for, would make sense, since that would be his new purpose.
"I waited years for you guys to fall, but someone else landed first, Alyx and Louis" (I might have got the quoting wrong but the point is yeah. Jaune is oldddddd)
1865 was when Lewis Carroll published Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. So less than (1865-2023)= 158 years. Jaune works out, eats healthy and has a healing factor.
20 years was confirmed then.. 20 years inisde Ever-After its like... 160 maybe? Because remember Jaune told he was "several years" there then Alyx fall on Ever-After... if we can know exactly how many years passed since Jaune fall in, and Alyx fall in, we can just use maths to get how much slower the time it works on Ever-After in comparation with Remnant. We know the moment Alyx fairy tale was writen, meaning when his brother backs to Remnant, we just need Jaune time diff between him and Alyx fall. And GG eazy.
We know back in Remnant that Alex's book is a well known story book for kids. So it's definitely been more than 20 Years since Blake loves it and everyone on the team knows it.
They just proves time is not 1:1 between Remnany and the Everafter. 20 years in the Everafter could be hundreds of years on Remnant for all we know. Think the hyperbolic time chamber
@@kami9143he fell at a time when wonderlands sequel was happening and during the fall of Atlas. Time is slower in the Everafter but it still appears to synced with Remnant’s timeline. The best analogy I can use is the planets and their versions of what a “year” is. Mercury is Remnant and the EA is Pluto: If you go back in time by 1 “Pluto year” and that’s roughly 250 years earth would be rewound. Meanwhile, rewind the cosmos by 1 “Mercury year” and that’s equivalent to just short of undoing 3 months. But, just because you end up teleported from Mercury to Pluto, doesn’t mean you’ve automatically time traveled.
I would like to bring attention to the fact that the brother's name is Lewis referring to Lewis Carol who wrote the original Alice in Wonderland. Fun little bit
Tbh, I just think in the everafter ppl don't age. Like they still grow and change but time is merely a construct in the ever after. Hell, there are fruits that can send ppl back in time.
Regardless of how long Jaune has been in the everafter I'm more interested in how much have his skills improved since then has he worked on his semblance is he a stronger sword fighter now
Given that his semblance requires other people with aura I don't think he would've had much practice, especially given there's no indication Alyx or Lewis were anything close to aura-users.
@mythikbeast6404 he make have focused on being able to spread it like vine had suggested. It could have simply been him focusing on swordsmanship I'm just expecting some improvement in a fighting based on being alone for what 20 30 years
They wouldn't dare make jaune that good a fighter. He'd stomp the entire team if that's the case, and they're likely going to beat the hell out of him later anyway.
@@mythikbeast6404it hasn’t been proven whether or not he could use it on himself(if it has then sorry I didn’t know) and if he could then he could have boosted himself
@@shadowexcalibur8758 The way it's been explained so far is that Jaune's semblance allows him to directly give others *his* aura, allowing them to either use aura dependent abilities for longer because he has so much or increasing their potency by having the person use their aura and Jaune's simultaneously. So it wouldn't make sense for Jaune to be able to use his semblance on himself as that would be like trying to fill a bucket with water by only using the water already in the bucket.
Juniper was the one to recuse Jaune after Alyx poisoned him, but it sounds like he crossed paths with the Cat later. He might of found him while exploring. I have been wondering how long he has been here, especially since we don't know how time works here. A day in here could be months outside. Then there is how the season ended.
I think time just works differently in the Ever After. Like at the end of the volume, the creator or the tree or whoever that was gives them a gateway not to where, but when they're needed in Remnant. The Ever After is a whimsical place with no set logic- or at least none that's easily observable. It's paradoxical. Jaune has probably experienced 10-20 additional years of his physical- but not necessarily mental/emotional- life, but time does not flow the same way in the Ever After as it does in Remnant. Perhaps not even linearly.
We shouldn't be using the flashbacks as canonical descriptions of how they look. It's a different art to show that's how the speaker is remembering or describing it. It's why the poison McSteamy over here looks a different color when he tells it vs when the cat tells that part of the story. So he may have just felt older around Alex.
ave you just consider the fact time flow differently INSIDE the EA and Remnant ? like 20 years in the EA which is how Jaune felt its passage here, can means HUNDREAD of yeears in Remnant ?
Juane always needed a way to increase his combat experience, aging him in this way fixes that. He was by far the weakest character in the show in terms of combat effectiveness and as a tank he couldn’t hold agro for long.
Ok so... Hear me out here. For Jaune himself, it's been maybe 20 to 30 years. But if you want to go by the time that passed in Remnant since he was sent back, I'd say AT LEAST a good couple of centuries since "The Girl Who Fell Through the World" is a fairy tale and those tend to be pretty frickin old. It feels like a weird Narnia situation where time is not consistent between the Ever After and Remnant.
You know, I really hate “I’ve been here years.” style story Arcs (pun intended) because they almost always end up with the character just going back to their old self the second it’s not longer relevant. At the end of the volume when Jaune becomes young again, I was actually upset, because I knew that that’s exactly what had happened, his now 20+ years of life experience was all about to be thrown out the window because it wasn’t relevant anymore. There’s no way you can live for 20+ years, and just all of a sudden become the same person you were.
if you look up on his biography, it'll show you his age number for his time in the Ever After, it tells you he has spent 20 years there, waiting for Ruby and the others to show up.
I got a Benjamin Button/Mother Goose feeling for how long he was there. I think time works the same there as it does in the Fay, you could be there for a day or two or you could be there for hundreds of years
in the end the tree also mentioned "when" instead of where they're needed. So they could have been brought far back to their time, showing time is different in the ever after?
It could be that the stress of living in a strange environment following a tragedy aged him prematurely. Plus, not everyone's name is a color (James Ironwood, for example). The color-themed names are more of a trend than a rule. Also, in the most recent episode (spoiler warning), the Blacksmith says that the team is returned to the time where they're needed most, so Lewis could have returned to a point much earlier than he left.
no, the colour Naming is a rule that Monty created. in lore it started after the great war, 80 years ago, in which atlas and Mistral tried to ban all creativity. Ironwood is likely meant to refer to the colour, as it is a term applied to a number of hardwoods, so possibly refering to the colour of said hardwoods
Writers said he spent 15~20 years in the ever after. So it means time low out differently from Remnant. Since The girl who fell from the world is an old tale, 1 year in the ER is probably equal to several years in Remant.
time flows differently in the ever after. Juane fell into the ever after at the same time as team rwby. Yet he was there much longer. Maybe hes been there for centuries and the poison and the tree keeps resurecting him to his youth but he keeps getting older because everytime he dies the tree keeps putting him in his youth
There’s one easy answer It was 10-20 years, but the Ever After exists outside Remnant’s flow of time, hence why despite team RWBY only being in the Ever After for like a day or two, there’s an obvious timeskip in Remnant that’s way longer than just a few days. So Alyx and Luis likely did come from before the Great War.
Volume 9 was a BIG advantage for the writers since they've had problems with timelines in the past. Hopefully in Volume 10 (if it comes out), we'll see them get better at time management.
as they point out, time works differently there. Inside the ever after, let's say he was stuck for... 20 years. Outside of this place that doesn't obey the same laws of time, space, or even physics, a world that can be literally changed/powered by THOUGHTS, it could have been ALL OF HISTORY and back again
There is an issue with this theory of ascension working differently for humans. Ruby Ascended too and by the tree's words, it implies that this is how Ascension normally works. And even if they already know the deal for humans, we never see a weapon for Jaune with all the other ones Ruby had to choose from to ascend
Time maybe a weird thing in the ever after it could be that the book was released before but the story put him in a position to follow the events. It was like that for team RWBY as well where they couldn’t deviate from the story.
That's pretty good question but I think it's one of those different plane of existence different passage of time kind of things like remnant time passes differently from the everafter I mean we are talking about a whole different dimension here so it's not impossible for time to pass differently in one plane of existence then the other or maybe he just grabbed one of those clock fruit fangs again and move them sell forward in time does explaining how he's not a fossil or something I mean he doesn't look that old otherwise you wouldn't be fighting so well for his age
I think the perspective in time in the erverafter works like the time chamber from dragon ball but on one setting or just rando. My guess years in erverafter might be = decades/centuries in remnant .
I was thinking time dilation, maybe the other world moves slower compared to the real would, so juane may have been in this world a good 20ish years before the twins dropped in and then when they went back it wasn't to their time but much after, that would explain how they came in before the world changed but the book could be released in a time that i could be a classic for the characters, i'm guessing juane then spent another 10 years on his own before team rwby dropped in. My theory is kinda confirmed by the series 9 epilogue when they were talking how enough time had passed that most of the conflicts had been settled and everyone now was beginning to thrive and recover and then the rwby team and juane popped back into the real world, even though it had only been a few days for team rwby since they fell off the walkway.
I don’t think he’s in his 40-50s Maybe his 30s, white hairs happen a lot earlier than people like to realize, not to mention he’s been through ALOT of stress
My guess is it's probably a situation where time in the Ever After flows in a completely different fashion to normal. An example would be if two years pass in the EA, time fluctuates between going backwards and backwards at random. So you could enter the EA and stay there for four years, and when you exit you might come out 40 years ago or eight days in the future. That would explain why Jaune was able to meet Alyx and Louis, yet look relatively young after over 80 years have passed in Remnant. For Jaune, it was probably 20-30ish years between Alyx and Ruby.
That's is a good question ❓ And Alex is before the great war that a new one but I think is possible she is before time the war occurred and I think her brother went back to remnant and is ozpin reincarnation that how he knows the story and jaune It might be that Jaune has been ascended because she did poison him His time in ever after is 20 years I think. Let's see what happens next episode maybe they'll explain it and jump to Ruby or neo.
I think time in the ever after is somewhat fluid. Alyx and Lewis could be from like 100 years prior to Jaune's birth, and then Lewis is sent back to "when [he] is needed most"
By the looks of him I'd say he's been there 20 or 30yrs in realm's timeline. Give an extra year or two. But that's just my guess because he looks about 30 or close to 40yrs.
My better question: how much time passed between Alyx and Ruby walking the Ever After? Jaune was already the Rusted Knight when he met Alyx, meaning enough time had passed where his armor had begun to rust and he was tall and mature like Weiss likes her men. So how long after Alyx’s walk did he reunite with Team RWBY?
Time could be non-linear in the ever after, meaning while Jaune went “back” in time, Alex and Lewis went forward. Or the flow of time in the ever after makes humans age very slowly. A lot of headache inducing thoughts on this
Look at his armor. He’s clearly wearing the same armor he started out with and he’s been there long enough for the rust to cover most of the white surrounding the plates. Would’ve been nice if he kept all the armor though after meeting that weird blacksmith lady. An older and much more mature Jaune meeting with the other members of Team JNPR would’ve been an interesting story to tell and it’s possible that with his time in the Ever After, he’s grown far more physically capable than he could have on Remnant. Just glad the Volume is over. I honestly wasn’t too thrilled with this Volume and was constantly wondering about the rest of the cast rather than Team RWBY as I knew Team RWBY would make it out somehow. Edit: Stupis iPhone glitched when I was typing and missed a large chunk of what I had typed down
My guess is mentally he’s in his 30s after being deaged. Also I’m pretty sure time is just skewed in the ever after. He didn’t get acended he just fell at an earlier point in time just like team Rwby fell later. The smith did say “not where when you are needed” meaning a lot of time probably passed and they’re getting sent back in time to where they were supposed to be
He just waited not talking to any humans years after years probably no communications with genuinely depth intellectual creature (the paper pleasers r one track minds )
1. Why would he call the three death if he ascended. 2. We could count the day that passed when the clock went backward. 3. Not everyone is called after color, ex: Pyrra, Lie Ren, Nora, Qrow, Witley.
All of the names correspond or evoke colours; all were confirmed under the colour naming rule by Monty himself. I won't defend modern RWBY writing; but I will defend Monty.
And Alex > alexandrite. Changes color depending on the light it's exposed to. Which later in the season, she has a change of heart while at the door of light (showing her true colors). I am more inclined to believe it came out between Summer's birth, and Ruby/Yang's.
I personally think that time works differently in the Everafter than in Remnant. I think that time probably moves slower in the Everafter. And with how Ascension is now seen to work with humans it seems more likely that Jaune probably didn’t ascend. Overall a good theory though.
I would like to think that it’s been a long time but in reality it’s that stupid time fruit making him older. He’s probably been in the ever after 10 years but time fruit adding 10 to age
😮 that would explain why the cat was so sure that Remnant folk wouldn't be effected the same way as Afterians!
Maybe he just shaved, or maybe that's not actually Jaune but Alpharius!
What? Impossible! How can that be if I'm Alpharius?
Clearly Ruby is Alpharius, who would suspect a male Primarch to be a short teenage girl.
@@CountKibblesNBits What makes you say so Alpharius?
I love how 40k memes are spreading to other franchises, it's like becoming JoJo memes.
@@codenamegnetne8209 In the end,no one can deny that we are all Alpharius. Or am I Omegon? Hmmmmmmm
The Creators confirmed it to be 10-20 years for Jaune in the Ever After
For their Podcast on the official Rooster Teeth Channel
Really? Because Jaune looks older than Taiyang. I thought it was 30-40 years for Jaune. But I guess we should just take the RWBY creators at their word.
@@Joe-ik1ph Tai is like in his mid to late 40s iirc
While Jaune is now in his Late 30s
But that doesn’t make sense with the Great War timeline, unless they confirm time works differently here.
@@deismaccountant time works differently here
There's also the fact that time in general makes little sense in this wonderland. Also the cats statement may have been literal rather then tounge and cheek. Maybe he knows what years are but in the ever after years don't work the same or even time in the same zones.
So the cats statement could have been him saying it's been so long that he's not even sure how long it's been.
This is my thoughts. Time may not flow consistently between the Ever After and Remnant. So what was probably 20-30 years in the Ever After may well have been 2 to 3 CENTURIES in Remnant considering that "The Girl Who Fell Through the World" is a fairy tale and those tend to be pretty old tbh
@@majoratwili7312 I mean the story this is rifting off of (Alice in Wonderland) was released 158 years ago... so I'd probably assume somewhere around 150 years here. At a minimum.
My guessing its a time passes slower here thing. 15 years for Jaune, 150 years outside. Sorta scenario.
@@majoratwili7312 exactly and while the disparity may or may not be quite that drimatic there is no telling how everything works.
in one version of digimon one minute in the world was about one day in the digital world. so when tai came back to the real world for a few hours before going back to the digital world for plot reasons it was still the same day he left in the real world with less then an hour passing before he got back to the real world the first time.
and by extension ive seen in other things like sci fi movies like the expanse terible movie in my opinion but that's just my opinion take it or leave it. a single hour on another planet was twenty years on earth.
so there is literaly no way to know when or where the team will pop out once they leave.
heck for all we know the ever after picks random times and places to pick you up and drop you off at with time being meaningless to the tree and thus it was just happenstance or the will of the tree that the siblings ended up in the ever after with jaune.
and by that same token they could leave before they even left remnent or a hundred years before or after.
it's all rather confusing.
@@VhenRaTheRaptor great analysis, in reality, it was 10-20 years
@@VhenRaTheRaptor realistically we can't verify the nature of what a "when" is in ever after, they literally have fruit that fucked you backwards, so we can verify that time as a concept is not linear there, the concept of age may be equally outlandish, you know the saying, 'your only as old as you feel?' In ever after feelings literally form logic and matter, for all we know the only reason Jaune "age" is because of how he literally felt the ages wearing down on him.
I also think it's interesting that the Cat uses 3 different terms when addressing Jaun's presence in the EA. First they say "time" then "years" then "decades"
I would have to guess that Jaune has been in The Ever After for around 2~3 decades.
There is a grey streak in his hair, which means either two things: 1) aged to his mid-40s, or 2) he is in his mid-30s, but the stress from his isolation/depression has discolored a portion of his hair.
Keep in mind, his power is literally to amplify life energy. He may not age the same as everyone else.
I dont put stock in white hair anymore, mid-twenties with half a head of white right here
@@burningcole2538 thats fair, im starting to get some now at 24
@@curvingfyre6810 could I ask you for some input on a creature or two I'm working on for RWBY, please?
@@praetorianrex5571 im not sure why youd ask me in particular, but go off king
Logical answer: He shaved
You: hE AsCenDeded
it wasn't just his facial hair, in the flashback with the paper pleasers his armour is less rusted.
You can clearly see that he looks younger aside from the beard and that his armor is less fucked. His ascension followed immediately by him finding a group of suicidal paper people to care for, would make sense, since that would be his new purpose.
"I waited years for you guys to fall, but someone else landed first, Alyx and Louis" (I might have got the quoting wrong but the point is yeah. Jaune is oldddddd)
According to Weiss, he's "Mature." 😆
@@bannana422 could I ask you for some input on a creature or two I'm working on for RWBY, please?
1865 was when Lewis Carroll published Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. So less than (1865-2023)= 158 years. Jaune works out, eats healthy and has a healing factor.
20 years was confirmed then..
20 years inisde Ever-After its like... 160 maybe? Because remember Jaune told he was "several years" there then Alyx fall on Ever-After... if we can know exactly how many years passed since Jaune fall in, and Alyx fall in, we can just use maths to get how much slower the time it works on Ever-After in comparation with Remnant.
We know the moment Alyx fairy tale was writen, meaning when his brother backs to Remnant, we just need Jaune time diff between him and Alyx fall. And GG eazy.
That or his semblance made him age slowly and he’s been there for a century
The Thing logic. Fun.
I like to believe he's in his mid to late 20s and it's just been rough.
We know back in Remnant that Alex's book is a well known story book for kids.
So it's definitely been more than 20 Years since Blake loves it and everyone on the team knows it.
Well known story book for kids in a world with worldwide communication? It could have definitely been realtively recent
@@AlphaNinjaFTW1 it was a physical book from what we see in the recent episode
They just proves time is not 1:1 between Remnany and the Everafter. 20 years in the Everafter could be hundreds of years on Remnant for all we know.
Think the hyperbolic time chamber
@@gameinsane4718 eh
If that was so than Jaune aging doesn't make sense there would have been no need for the clock fruit to send him to the past then.
@@kami9143he fell at a time when wonderlands sequel was happening and during the fall of Atlas.
Time is slower in the Everafter but it still appears to synced with Remnant’s timeline. The best analogy I can use is the planets and their versions of what a “year” is. Mercury is Remnant and the EA is Pluto:
If you go back in time by 1 “Pluto year” and that’s roughly 250 years earth would be rewound. Meanwhile, rewind the cosmos by 1 “Mercury year” and that’s equivalent to just short of undoing 3 months.
But, just because you end up teleported from Mercury to Pluto, doesn’t mean you’ve automatically time traveled.
I would like to bring attention to the fact that the brother's name is Lewis referring to Lewis Carol who wrote the original Alice in Wonderland. Fun little bit
40s or 50s? Bro what? He’s like 35. 40 at the absolute most.
It's the grey streak in his hair that jacks that assumption up.
The gray streak is probably from the stress of what he’s been through.
Last i checked, he was a teenager
Lesson of the day: Never enter the Feywild. Time is weird there. (I know it's called the "Ever-After" but it acts like the feywild in every aspect.)
Yeah the author’s comments about the time make no sense under scrutiny.
.... I cannot unsee this.
I hate you, you beautiful genius
Time is a weird soap as they say
Tbh, I just think in the everafter ppl don't age. Like they still grow and change but time is merely a construct in the ever after. Hell, there are fruits that can send ppl back in time.
Regardless of how long Jaune has been in the everafter I'm more interested in how much have his skills improved since then has he worked on his semblance is he a stronger sword fighter now
Given that his semblance requires other people with aura I don't think he would've had much practice, especially given there's no indication Alyx or Lewis were anything close to aura-users.
@mythikbeast6404 he make have focused on being able to spread it like vine had suggested. It could have simply been him focusing on swordsmanship I'm just expecting some improvement in a fighting based on being alone for what 20 30 years
They wouldn't dare make jaune that good a fighter. He'd stomp the entire team if that's the case, and they're likely going to beat the hell out of him later anyway.
@@mythikbeast6404it hasn’t been proven whether or not he could use it on himself(if it has then sorry I didn’t know) and if he could then he could have boosted himself
@@shadowexcalibur8758
The way it's been explained so far is that Jaune's semblance allows him to directly give others *his* aura, allowing them to either use aura dependent abilities for longer because he has so much or increasing their potency by having the person use their aura and Jaune's simultaneously.
So it wouldn't make sense for Jaune to be able to use his semblance on himself as that would be like trying to fill a bucket with water by only using the water already in the bucket.
Juniper was the one to recuse Jaune after Alyx poisoned him, but it sounds like he crossed paths with the Cat later. He might of found him while exploring.
I have been wondering how long he has been here, especially since we don't know how time works here. A day in here could be months outside. Then there is how the season ended.
My moneys on a 2-3 year timeskip.
I think time just works differently in the Ever After. Like at the end of the volume, the creator or the tree or whoever that was gives them a gateway not to where, but when they're needed in Remnant. The Ever After is a whimsical place with no set logic- or at least none that's easily observable. It's paradoxical. Jaune has probably experienced 10-20 additional years of his physical- but not necessarily mental/emotional- life, but time does not flow the same way in the Ever After as it does in Remnant. Perhaps not even linearly.
Rwby beyond ep.2 says Alice and Luis are from before the war
That ascending business sure sounds a lot like the rebirth ceremony in “Logan‘s run”.🤯
Can we determined by the rust on his armor ? I guess there are too many factor for that.
We shouldn't be using the flashbacks as canonical descriptions of how they look. It's a different art to show that's how the speaker is remembering or describing it.
It's why the poison McSteamy over here looks a different color when he tells it vs when the cat tells that part of the story.
So he may have just felt older around Alex.
ave you just consider the fact time flow differently INSIDE the EA and Remnant ? like 20 years in the EA which is how Jaune felt its passage here, can means HUNDREAD of yeears in Remnant ?
Juane always needed a way to increase his combat experience, aging him in this way fixes that. He was by far the weakest character in the show in terms of combat effectiveness and as a tank he couldn’t hold agro for long.
Time in the Ever After is also really funky as far as I know.
Ok so... Hear me out here. For Jaune himself, it's been maybe 20 to 30 years. But if you want to go by the time that passed in Remnant since he was sent back, I'd say AT LEAST a good couple of centuries since "The Girl Who Fell Through the World" is a fairy tale and those tend to be pretty frickin old. It feels like a weird Narnia situation where time is not consistent between the Ever After and Remnant.
RT confirmed on their podcast that he’s been there for 10-20 years
You know, I really hate “I’ve been here years.” style story Arcs (pun intended) because they almost always end up with the character just going back to their old self the second it’s not longer relevant.
At the end of the volume when Jaune becomes young again, I was actually upset, because I knew that that’s exactly what had happened, his now 20+ years of life experience was all about to be thrown out the window because it wasn’t relevant anymore.
There’s no way you can live for 20+ years, and just all of a sudden become the same person you were.
All I know is Jaune's therapist is gonna be driving a Bentley afterwards
if you look up on his biography, it'll show you his age number for his time in the Ever After, it tells you he has spent 20 years there, waiting for Ruby and the others to show up.
I got a Benjamin Button/Mother Goose feeling for how long he was there. I think time works the same there as it does in the Fay, you could be there for a day or two or you could be there for hundreds of years
in the end the tree also mentioned "when" instead of where they're needed. So they could have been brought far back to their time, showing time is different in the ever after?
It would also explain where he got the new Armor pieces from…
It could be that the stress of living in a strange environment following a tragedy aged him prematurely. Plus, not everyone's name is a color (James Ironwood, for example). The color-themed names are more of a trend than a rule.
Also, in the most recent episode (spoiler warning), the Blacksmith says that the team is returned to the time where they're needed most, so Lewis could have returned to a point much earlier than he left.
no, the colour Naming is a rule that Monty created. in lore it started after the great war, 80 years ago, in which atlas and Mistral tried to ban all creativity. Ironwood is likely meant to refer to the colour, as it is a term applied to a number of hardwoods, so possibly refering to the colour of said hardwoods
Or the color of Iron
I'd like to think their names represent things like appearances, traits, etc(I know it doesn't). So Iron wood is.. Iron wood 😏😏
Writers said he spent 15~20 years in the ever after. So it means time low out differently from Remnant. Since The girl who fell from the world is an old tale, 1 year in the ER is probably equal to several years in Remant.
I thought Kerry made a comment that Jaune had been there for 20 years. Also, we have no clue of Alyx's or Lewis' last names.
Liddle.
It could also mean that time works differently than outside ever after
20 -30 years
Im sorry for all of you still into RWBY
i hope you all end up getting the help you need
time flows differently in the ever after. Juane fell into the ever after at the same time as team rwby. Yet he was there much longer. Maybe hes been there for centuries and the poison and the tree keeps resurecting him to his youth but he keeps getting older because everytime he dies the tree keeps putting him in his youth
There’s one easy answer
It was 10-20 years, but the Ever After exists outside Remnant’s flow of time, hence why despite team RWBY only being in the Ever After for like a day or two, there’s an obvious timeskip in Remnant that’s way longer than just a few days.
So Alyx and Luis likely did come from before the Great War.
He messed with the Clock lol.
Well seeing as Ruby’s gonna ascend now one way or another that makes sense.
50 years. It would have been just 10 years, but he didnt stop the goose the first time
According to Google, he's been in the ever after for 10 to 20 years.
Kerry said like 20 years.
Let's not forget that time flows differently in the Ever After
Volume 9 was a BIG advantage for the writers since they've had problems with timelines in the past. Hopefully in Volume 10 (if it comes out), we'll see them get better at time management.
My guess is about 20 terms
or he's been there for much longer time but due to aura's homeostatic effect looks younger.
as they point out, time works differently there. Inside the ever after, let's say he was stuck for... 20 years. Outside of this place that doesn't obey the same laws of time, space, or even physics, a world that can be literally changed/powered by THOUGHTS, it could have been ALL OF HISTORY and back again
Something I haven’t see anyone point out. There’s a very good chance Lewis is still alive somewhere on Remnant.
I can't believe I haven't seen a comment stating that the showrunners confirmed jaune has been there 10-20 years
Jaune landed in the ever after, at age 19.
Rwby found him at age 39. So 20ish years.
There is an issue with this theory of ascension working differently for humans. Ruby Ascended too and by the tree's words, it implies that this is how Ascension normally works. And even if they already know the deal for humans, we never see a weapon for Jaune with all the other ones Ruby had to choose from to ascend
Time maybe a weird thing in the ever after it could be that the book was released before but the story put him in a position to follow the events. It was like that for team RWBY as well where they couldn’t deviate from the story.
That's pretty good question but I think it's one of those different plane of existence different passage of time kind of things like remnant time passes differently from the everafter I mean we are talking about a whole different dimension here so it's not impossible for time to pass differently in one plane of existence then the other or maybe he just grabbed one of those clock fruit fangs again and move them sell forward in time does explaining how he's not a fossil or something I mean he doesn't look that old otherwise you wouldn't be fighting so well for his age
A) time is cyclical.
B) time is an illusion.
C) he think, therefore he am.
I think the perspective in time in the erverafter works like the time chamber from dragon ball but on one setting or just rando. My guess years in erverafter might be = decades/centuries in remnant .
Great theories, great editing! 😎
I was thinking time dilation, maybe the other world moves slower compared to the real would, so juane may have been in this world a good 20ish years before the twins dropped in and then when they went back it wasn't to their time but much after, that would explain how they came in before the world changed but the book could be released in a time that i could be a classic for the characters, i'm guessing juane then spent another 10 years on his own before team rwby dropped in. My theory is kinda confirmed by the series 9 epilogue when they were talking how enough time had passed that most of the conflicts had been settled and everyone now was beginning to thrive and recover and then the rwby team and juane popped back into the real world, even though it had only been a few days for team rwby since they fell off the walkway.
I don’t think he’s in his 40-50s
Maybe his 30s, white hairs happen a lot earlier than people like to realize, not to mention he’s been through ALOT of stress
My guess is it's probably a situation where time in the Ever After flows in a completely different fashion to normal. An example would be if two years pass in the EA, time fluctuates between going backwards and backwards at random. So you could enter the EA and stay there for four years, and when you exit you might come out 40 years ago or eight days in the future. That would explain why Jaune was able to meet Alyx and Louis, yet look relatively young after over 80 years have passed in Remnant. For Jaune, it was probably 20-30ish years between Alyx and Ruby.
So, just like the warp from 40k.
with the exception that they aren't any demons trying to either kill you, mutate you or sodomize you.
they don't want to tell you because they're scared that they might reckon it later and fans will notice that
That's is a good question ❓
And Alex is before the great war that a new one but I think is possible she is before time the war occurred and I think her brother went back to remnant and is ozpin reincarnation that how he knows the story and jaune
It might be that Jaune has been ascended because she did poison him
His time in ever after is 20 years I think.
Let's see what happens next episode maybe they'll explain it and jump to Ruby or neo.
Old man Jaune is so hot, imagine if he stayed that way
Could be a year in the ever after is worth like 5-10 years outside of it
I think time in the ever after is somewhat fluid. Alyx and Lewis could be from like 100 years prior to Jaune's birth, and then Lewis is sent back to "when [he] is needed most"
I am hoping with the way it ended. Jaune keeps the maturity of his years in the Ever After in Volume 10(if there is a volume 10)
By the looks of him I'd say he's been there 20 or 30yrs in realm's timeline. Give an extra year or two.
But that's just my guess because he looks about 30 or close to 40yrs.
~30-40 years. I also think Jaune stated he spent some time before Alice arrived
He could have also shaved before he met the paper pleasers
My better question: how much time passed between Alyx and Ruby walking the Ever After? Jaune was already the Rusted Knight when he met Alyx, meaning enough time had passed where his armor had begun to rust and he was tall and mature like Weiss likes her men.
So how long after Alyx’s walk did he reunite with Team RWBY?
“How long has Jaune been in the Ever After?”
I don’t know what that is.
It has been an indeterminate amount of time. Time works differently in the Ever After.
Time could be non-linear in the ever after, meaning while Jaune went “back” in time, Alex and Lewis went forward. Or the flow of time in the ever after makes humans age very slowly. A lot of headache inducing thoughts on this
Where can I watch the full series of RWBY?
Maybe the ever afterhas a slower time spend than Remnant. So some months could be years in Remnant
Bare minimum, I’d think 5 years is the amount of time it would take for his hair to get that long, and his beard to get big.
Look at his armor. He’s clearly wearing the same armor he started out with and he’s been there long enough for the rust to cover most of the white surrounding the plates.
Would’ve been nice if he kept all the armor though after meeting that weird blacksmith lady. An older and much more mature Jaune meeting with the other members of Team JNPR would’ve been an interesting story to tell and it’s possible that with his time in the Ever After, he’s grown far more physically capable than he could have on Remnant.
Just glad the Volume is over. I honestly wasn’t too thrilled with this Volume and was constantly wondering about the rest of the cast rather than Team RWBY as I knew Team RWBY would make it out somehow.
Edit: Stupis iPhone glitched when I was typing and missed a large chunk of what I had typed down
My guess is mentally he’s in his 30s after being deaged.
Also I’m pretty sure time is just skewed in the ever after. He didn’t get acended he just fell at an earlier point in time just like team Rwby fell later. The smith did say “not where when you are needed” meaning a lot of time probably passed and they’re getting sent back in time to where they were supposed to be
Time is conveluted, who knows.
James Ironwood, Glenda Goodwitch, Sun, Neptune, Oscar, Fox. None of them are named after colors either.
Well Sun and Neptune arent named after colors but the "planets" (and star) related to their names is linked to colors
Why did this pop up in my feed? Haven't watched RWBY since Volume 7.
If he acended he would have been to the tree like ruby was and the cat was suprised that ruby was at the tree
It's not like he had a calendar.
He just waited not talking to any humans years after years probably no communications with genuinely depth intellectual creature (the paper pleasers r one track minds )
1. Why would he call the three death if he ascended.
2. We could count the day that passed when the clock went backward.
3. Not everyone is called after color, ex: Pyrra, Lie Ren, Nora, Qrow, Witley.
All of the names correspond or evoke colours; all were confirmed under the colour naming rule by Monty himself. I won't defend modern RWBY writing; but I will defend Monty.
Or it could just be the clock fruit he smashed after noticing time being shifted. He got sent back in time and then aged until he met team RWBY again.
How strong is Jaune after experiencing this world for so long?
Got to ask if time has the same effect or flow in the Everafter.
The "color naming rule" didn't specifically call for being named a color, but Louis sounds like blue (blue-is)
And Alex > alexandrite. Changes color depending on the light it's exposed to. Which later in the season, she has a change of heart while at the door of light (showing her true colors).
I am more inclined to believe it came out between Summer's birth, and Ruby/Yang's.
So is Jaune just gonna revert to his proper age with all the memories or what? That would suck! He'd be like Oot Link.
I think time moved in a Jeremy Bearimy.
Remember Monty Oum? None of this trash would have happened under his watch. Rest in Piece.
I personally think that time works differently in the Everafter than in Remnant. I think that time probably moves slower in the Everafter. And with how Ascension is now seen to work with humans it seems more likely that Jaune probably didn’t ascend. Overall a good theory though.
I would like to think that it’s been a long time but in reality it’s that stupid time fruit making him older. He’s probably been in the ever after 10 years but time fruit adding 10 to age
How long is a year in the ever after? How many days would lead to a year?
Almost like it doesnt really matter how long he was in there