Thanks for your comment. Glad you find it useful. Keep in mind that depending of your weathering style (softer or heavier), you should adjust the lighting tones. Lighter if want to apply heavy effects.
Hi Adam Mann, although I used some light blueish tone for the mixed, the result after applying weathering effects is almost grey, you can check it in the following videos (all in all I prefer to have some slightly saturated tone for creating subtle contrast with the dust coats). About wheel bin, I represented it due to a panzer IV ausf f photo from 36th panzer regiment, seems to be a custom bin instead of the standard one. Thanks for your comment! Cheers
Very nice work my friend. I like your techniques and methods. You added medium blue to the German Grey and that works well. Also you added Sky Grey to the base coat and that was just enough to represent a difference in color. Thank you so much for sharing. Cheers 👍.
Hi Azzy, I think color mixes are simple but in the other effective too. Using grey for highlighting helps to keep the base tone in the final result. Cheers
Vallejo 7021 panzer grey is the true colour of early ww2 tanks. Yes it is just about tyre black. We can lighten it a little because of scale and the amount of light reflected back to our eyes. Modellers don't like the true colour because a lot of the tricks they use just don't work so you'll see this colour being represented as grey blues or greens which RAL 2021 is not.
Yes, in fact Panzer grey was very dark. Interesting..., I have that color in my painting stock, I will make some test to check it's behaviour. Also, for those who like to represent some weathering in our models, we can't forget about color balance. We need to paint lighter in the first steps, so later the overlapping weathering layers will darken the base color. If you check the final result the panzer grey coat is not as light as It looks at the end of this first video. czcams.com/video/2LtFhhEgjek/video.html
I second this opinion. RAL 7021 back then was a dark dull grey (modern 7021 isn‘t quite matching it). I don‘t understand this desire to make it appear in some blueish hue, even lightening this up to get the desired highlight effects. This might fall under artistic license and some results do look spectacular as an artistic expression, but I at least can‘t help but think „wrong color“ whenever I see a German tank painted in „ Panzer Blue“. Many printed profiles and box arts got this color wrong, too.
Dude, how to choose colors from those from Tamiya in Vallejo? The conversion rates are nonsense. I will add that I only paint with brushes and I don't have conditions for spray painting in winter. Can you help?
Hi there. That is a hard task, finding similar and specific colors among paint brands might be not possible in all cases. If you paint using the brush, well it would be okay if you can compare between Vallejo and tamiya in your local hobby store. If not, I would go for some comercial sets from Vallejo/ak/ammo (avoiding the lightest shades of grey, specially for panzer grey), all these three brands have a very similar behaviour while painting and I think they will give you good results
Cool paint work but it should be presented as a remotely accurate representation of RAL 7021. Check Bruce the Modeling Noob's 13 Shades of Panzer Gray for details.
Thanks for your comment. Very interesting and useful video. In my case I tend to create lighter shades for the base tone for colour compensation because weathering usually makes the base darker. If interested, I leave you the link of the final result czcams.com/video/2LtFhhEgjek/video.html
Thank you so much. For a compressor... well, there is a wide range available in the market now, I would recommend you to choose one equipped with an air tank. That is something very useful for our purposes. Cheers
Well, it's a group of sources. Although getting a 100% accurate color is difficult or almost impossible, I try to use references from original paint chips and parts, camouflage reference books and historical references. Also everything becomes harder if you add some highlighting color because it modifies the base. At the end I try to balance between something historically accurate and hobby useful too. Cheers.
@@notjustpanzer I know. First of all there were variations in hue due to exposure to the weather and depending on the time elapsed since the tanks was painted, and secondly photographs are unreliable, because colours in photographs are prone to fading. The same goes for illustrations in books. In my days in the South African Army it was common to see three vehicles next to one another and with almost totally different colours. Paint chips, if you can get hold of them, suffer from the same problem: how old and how weathered are they? Ultimately it's all down to the modeller's preference and perspective. That's why I don't bother trying to get a 100% accurate colour.
@@raytheronthere are surviving components from the war. RAL7021 is a base oxide so cannot chemically decompose further and therefore cannot fade with sun exposure. There's also hundreds of original colour photos.
Germans used oxide based paints not polymer paints like today. Because of that its basicly impossible to "fade" because it is already oxidesed, and it was a requirement of the paints not to fade an they tested this by un UV lamp. Sorry for my "english"
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Excellent technique. I'll try that on my next build.
Thank you👍
Thanks for your comment. Glad you find it useful.
Keep in mind that depending of your weathering style (softer or heavier), you should adjust the lighting tones. Lighter if want to apply heavy effects.
nice job 👌
Thanks!
Glad you like the video 🙌
Very nicely done! 👍
Thanks!
Hope you find it helpful too.
Panzer Grey is not blueish. I own a 4 or 5 original panzer pieces with it. Also that wheel bin wasnt around until Panzer IV G.
Hi Adam Mann, although I used some light blueish tone for the mixed, the result after applying weathering effects is almost grey, you can check it in the following videos (all in all I prefer to have some slightly saturated tone for creating subtle contrast with the dust coats). About wheel bin, I represented it due to a panzer IV ausf f photo from 36th panzer regiment, seems to be a custom bin instead of the standard one.
Thanks for your comment!
Cheers
Very nice work my friend. I like your techniques and methods. You added medium blue to the German Grey and that works well. Also you added Sky Grey to the base coat and that was just enough to represent a difference in color. Thank you so much for sharing. Cheers 👍.
Hi Azzy,
I think color mixes are simple but in the other effective too. Using grey for highlighting helps to keep the base tone in the final result.
Cheers
Amazing video ... very useful. Thank you
Really happy if it is useful for you
Lot of thanks!
Wow man nice tips. Keep up your channel
Btw i subscribed
This is the way!
Thanks for your comment
Super glad you found it useful
vaya maestro!
Hombree!
Muchas gracias, se hace lo que se puede.
+1 en histórico!
Vallejo 7021 panzer grey is the true colour of early ww2 tanks. Yes it is just about tyre black. We can lighten it a little because of scale and the amount of light reflected back to our eyes. Modellers don't like the true colour because a lot of the tricks they use just don't work so you'll see this colour being represented as grey blues or greens which RAL 2021 is not.
Yes, in fact Panzer grey was very dark. Interesting..., I have that color in my painting stock, I will make some test to check it's behaviour.
Also, for those who like to represent some weathering in our models, we can't forget about color balance. We need to paint lighter in the first steps, so later the overlapping weathering layers will darken the base color.
If you check the final result the panzer grey coat is not as light as It looks at the end of this first video. czcams.com/video/2LtFhhEgjek/video.html
I second this opinion. RAL 7021 back then was a dark dull grey (modern 7021 isn‘t quite matching it). I don‘t understand this desire to make it appear in some blueish hue, even lightening this up to get the desired highlight effects. This might fall under artistic license and some results do look spectacular as an artistic expression, but I at least can‘t help but think „wrong color“ whenever I see a German tank painted in „ Panzer Blue“. Many printed profiles and box arts got this color wrong, too.
@@Custer0706exactly.
Genial como siempre amigo, gracias por enseñar!!!
Muchas gracias!! 💪🏻💪🏻
Cool tutorial.
Thank you so much for your comment! Really appreciate it
Very nice 👍
Thank you so much!
Hope you found it useful
Dude, how to choose colors from those from Tamiya in Vallejo? The conversion rates are nonsense. I will add that I only paint with brushes and I don't have conditions for spray painting in winter. Can you help?
Hi there.
That is a hard task, finding similar and specific colors among paint brands might be not possible in all cases.
If you paint using the brush, well it would be okay if you can compare between Vallejo and tamiya in your local hobby store. If not, I would go for some comercial sets from Vallejo/ak/ammo (avoiding the lightest shades of grey, specially for panzer grey), all these three brands have a very similar behaviour while painting and I think they will give you good results
@@notjustpanzer thx but do you have any tips for primer without airbrush or spray? Meybe without primer? Only Base 4 or 5 coat? Any thinner?
It's better to use primer, anyway most of acrylic based primers are formulated for brushing too. So I think that would be my choice.
Cheers
@@notjustpanzer thx!
Cool paint work but it should be presented as a remotely accurate representation of RAL 7021. Check Bruce the Modeling Noob's 13 Shades of Panzer Gray for details.
Thanks for your comment.
Very interesting and useful video.
In my case I tend to create lighter shades for the base tone for colour compensation because weathering usually makes the base darker. If interested, I leave you the link of the final result czcams.com/video/2LtFhhEgjek/video.html
Nice video and channel, I just got into airbrushing and this was very helpful.
Still have to buy a compressor though..any advice would be helpful!
😊
Thank you so much.
For a compressor... well, there is a wide range available in the market now, I would recommend you to choose one equipped with an air tank. That is something very useful for our purposes.
Cheers
Very nice video! May I ask which Thinner you have used for the Tamiya paints?
Thanks for your comment! For Tamiya paints I use their own thinner X20A, paint flows really well with it.
@@notjustpanzer Thanks for the fast answer!
Just curious: how do you know what the original panzer grey looked like?
Well, it's a group of sources.
Although getting a 100% accurate color is difficult or almost impossible, I try to use references from original paint chips and parts, camouflage reference books and historical references. Also everything becomes harder if you add some highlighting color because it modifies the base. At the end I try to balance between something historically accurate and hobby useful too.
Cheers.
@@notjustpanzer I know. First of all there were variations in hue due to exposure to the weather and depending on the time elapsed since the tanks was painted, and secondly photographs are unreliable, because colours in photographs are prone to fading. The same goes for illustrations in books. In my days in the South African Army it was common to see three vehicles next to one another and with almost totally different colours. Paint chips, if you can get hold of them, suffer from the same problem: how old and how weathered are they? Ultimately it's all down to the modeller's preference and perspective. That's why I don't bother trying to get a 100% accurate colour.
That's super right, I'm totally agree. This is a hobby and we are supposed to have fun with it. Color accuracy will always be a controversial topic.
@@raytheronthere are surviving components from the war. RAL7021 is a base oxide so cannot chemically decompose further and therefore cannot fade with sun exposure. There's also hundreds of original colour photos.
Germans used oxide based paints not polymer paints like today. Because of that its basicly impossible to "fade" because it is already oxidesed, and it was a requirement of the paints not to fade an they tested this by un UV lamp.
Sorry for my "english"