Seen your vid before. I just got an 1897 I found at a pawn shop--- original 28" barrel. 95% bluing remains, serial puts it at 1953. I can't bring myself to chop the barrel. Shot it today, shoots like a dream.
No overly long intro, no obnoxious music, just sent it. Got right into what I needed to see. Exactly the length it needed to be. Completely absent of bullshit, a rarity nowadays. You sir have earned a subscriber. A
Technically the French used tear gas on the Germans before the first use of it by the Germans on the Russians. Ypres was the second use but misunderstood as the first
Pretty good slam fire. Finally got one a couple weeks ago and slam fired for the first time. I’m an expert shooter and it still caught me by surprise how difficult it is to control recoil and keep your hand on the pump while slam firing. Mine has a wobbly pump which probably didn’t help. It’s a serious challenge to keep the muzzle stable while doing it
This shotgun doesn't have a trigger disconnect so the hammer will drop as soon as it's back in battery meaning it'll shoot as fast as you can pump it if you hold the trigger down. Many modern shotguns aren't able to slamfire, but I do know the recent Chinese 1897 clones are capable of it
To simplify it, Notice how whenever a new round is chambered, the hammer flies forward pretty much instantly? If you werent pulling the trigger, the hammer would remain (which is obvious). Imo, i dont know much about the 97, but it's one of the most beautiful shotguns ever manufactured, an extremely practical and futuristic design of it's time.
what kind of ammo do you shoot, I was told to use low brass, but I saw you had buckshoot, what make and is it low brass? looking to feed mine other than birdshot
I've shot buckshot out of this gun no problem, just make sure your chamber length isn't shorter than the fired shell case. Also, the high/low brass nomenclature is a misnomer nowadays with modern cartridges: the height of the head really makes no ballistic differences. It's probably better to look at the velocity information on the box.
I know these guns very very very well and i can tell u this,compared to a modern Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870,the action of these guns is bullet proof x3 vs the modern guns,they are made soo super strong in terms of action...I am sure the action of a 1897 can handle a .50bmg recoil without any problem 1000x over do that with with a modern shotgun like a mossberg or remington that work with a lug that pops up and locks the bolt and barrel....These guns are build to last thats why they are around after lile 100 years of service,John Browning made guns that worked and lasted..
@Ray D it will break in stock form but the design can handle it i mean if u scale it up a bit,cause compared to a locking block that raises from the bolt into the barrel/receiver this design is much stronger,they are old and weird looking with the bolt that flys out of the back of the receiver and the carrier that hangs out of the bottom of the gun,but they are super strong guns in terms of action.
@Ray D Its really weird to see a man brag about the .50 will break this and that.... If ure the gun gun expert u know the .50 has one of the slowest burning powders u can buy or a power thats super slow burning and rarely see for caliber as .30-06 this means the recoil is not a kick as in terms fast burning powder like a .223 anyways. If u have a bit of technical skills and u know how a 1893/1897 locks the action u know that the shell pushes against the bolt and the bolt is locked by the carrier witch is mostly made from solid steel,u cant compress solid steel atleast i am not aware u can compress solid steel the recoil force is tranferd to the receiver witch is solid steel in the part the carrier moves in.... The only weak spot would be the receiver if u scale that up a little bit to make sure a 1897 willl handle a .50 bmg in fact i am sure a 1893 winchester,yes the gun that has the reputation to be weak will handle the recoil for sure. If a simple bolt action can hold the .50 a 1893/1897 can for sure if u scale up the receiver. U know how guns work then u dont talk like a 16 year old kid
I just picked 1 1905 1897 30 in full very good condition $550 50 of that was delivery fee, have a 500 moss as well, some one sanded it to bare metal, shit I put flex seal on barrel fine and dandy
That just goes to show that it doesn’t matter how old something is that doesn’t make it obsolete 1800s and 1900s that’s when America made good guns nowadays they’re made a polymer and all that stuff
It's called slamfire. The Ithaca 37 can do this as well. The German military in World War I hated this shotgun and wanted it removed from warfare cause it was so effective.
@@eisenkrieg553 The later model 1897 could do that the first models had 2 screw instead of buttons...Dont ask me about serieal numbers but this is a E model 1897 thing (E stand above the serial number)
Dax Marshall they stopped producing these shotguns in the mid 50s but you might get lucky at an auction or by placing for a special order. Also depends on what state you're from since some states are very gun restrictive for example California.
My grandfather just gave me his old one I know someone would pay a fortune for it but they could offer me 10 mill for it and I still wouldn’t sell it best of luck finding one
@@samsum4525 there's two buttons on the side of the receiver that directly interact with the cartridge stops inside it. pushing them pushes the stops inward, causing the rims of the cartridges to be no longer stopped by them. the spring of the magazine does the rest.
Only if you want to shoot it for the last time. I highly would recommend against shooting shells longer than the chamber length as this would cause over pressure in the chamber and could rupture your barrel.
the slow-mo of the mechanism was great
Seen your vid before. I just got an 1897 I found at a pawn shop--- original 28" barrel. 95% bluing remains, serial puts it at 1953. I can't bring myself to chop the barrel. Shot it today, shoots like a dream.
No overly long intro, no obnoxious music, just sent it. Got right into what I needed to see. Exactly the length it needed to be. Completely absent of bullshit, a rarity nowadays. You sir have earned a subscriber. A
Exactly why I started doing this! Thanks for watching!
He's great isn't he
Germany: *makes flamethrowers and chemical weapons*
Also Germany: “that shotgun should be illegal”
Ist es wirklich illegal? Wegen Slamfire oder warum?
Technically the French used tear gas on the Germans before the first use of it by the Germans on the Russians. Ypres was the second use but misunderstood as the first
They did invent flamethrower she though
@@Gieszkanne they opposed all shotguns because they were op
@@charliebrown3509 Sind sie nicht! Man kann sie mit Bedürfnisnachweis erwerben . Sogar die Winchester 1897.
Pretty good slam fire. Finally got one a couple weeks ago and slam fired for the first time. I’m an expert shooter and it still caught me by surprise how difficult it is to control recoil and keep your hand on the pump while slam firing. Mine has a wobbly pump which probably didn’t help. It’s a serious challenge to keep the muzzle stable while doing it
I received my father-in-law‘s model 1897 yesterday, serial number dated to 1903. It feels wonderful in your hands.
Slam fire is such an awesome feature.
I really like how on this receiver, you can really see more of the inner details of how it chambers the next shell. :)
I’ve watched this video several times. Really cool! Thanks for sharing!
I have a question,how does this shotgun fires very fast?Can other modern pump shotgun shoot as fast as this as well?
This shotgun doesn't have a trigger disconnect so the hammer will drop as soon as it's back in battery meaning it'll shoot as fast as you can pump it if you hold the trigger down. Many modern shotguns aren't able to slamfire, but I do know the recent Chinese 1897 clones are capable of it
To simplify it, Notice how whenever a new round is chambered, the hammer flies forward pretty much instantly? If you werent pulling the trigger, the hammer would remain (which is obvious).
Imo, i dont know much about the 97, but it's one of the most beautiful shotguns ever manufactured, an extremely practical and futuristic design of it's time.
I'm so glad I have the opportunity of owning one of these! And it's a awesome hunting gun!
This Winchester shot gun is very nice , what is the cost prised of this gun.
Famous trench gun. They used it to clear trenches during WWI and during assaults in the towns.
What a remarkable shoot by the shooter
Good video! Love the Winchester 97!
Very powerful shot gun
what kind of ammo do you shoot, I was told to use low brass, but I saw you had buckshoot, what make and is it low brass? looking to feed mine other than birdshot
I've shot buckshot out of this gun no problem, just make sure your chamber length isn't shorter than the fired shell case. Also, the high/low brass nomenclature is a misnomer nowadays with modern cartridges: the height of the head really makes no ballistic differences. It's probably better to look at the velocity information on the box.
Finally got one. These things can schmove
Woo! Slamfire master race
Congratulations, may it provide another century of enjoyment for you and yours!
PhoenixPhart, where did you get the leather buttstock used in this video?
Sorry for the late response. I purchased it from a fellow at the local gun shows, but he has a website: randjsp.com. Great fella
I know these guns very very very well and i can tell u this,compared to a modern Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870,the action of these guns is bullet proof x3 vs the modern guns,they are made soo super strong in terms of action...I am sure the action of a 1897 can handle a .50bmg recoil without any problem 1000x over do that with with a modern shotgun like a mossberg or remington that work with a lug that pops up and locks the bolt and barrel....These guns are build to last thats why they are around after lile 100 years of service,John Browning made guns that worked and lasted..
@Ray D it will break in stock form but the design can handle it i mean if u scale it up a bit,cause compared to a locking block that raises from the bolt into the barrel/receiver this design is much stronger,they are old and weird looking with the bolt that flys out of the back of the receiver and the carrier that hangs out of the bottom of the gun,but they are super strong guns in terms of action.
@Ray D Its really weird to see a man brag about the .50 will break this and that....
If ure the gun gun expert u know the .50 has one of the slowest burning powders u can buy or a power thats super slow burning and rarely see for caliber as .30-06 this means the recoil is not a kick as in terms fast burning powder like a .223 anyways.
If u have a bit of technical skills and u know how a 1893/1897 locks the action u know that the shell pushes against the bolt and the bolt is locked by the carrier witch is mostly made from solid steel,u cant compress solid steel atleast i am not aware u can compress solid steel the recoil force is tranferd to the receiver witch is solid steel in the part the carrier moves in....
The only weak spot would be the receiver if u scale that up a little bit to make sure a 1897 willl handle a .50 bmg in fact i am sure a 1893 winchester,yes the gun that has the reputation to be weak will handle the recoil for sure.
If a simple bolt action can hold the .50 a 1893/1897 can for sure if u scale up the receiver.
U know how guns work then u dont talk like a 16 year old kid
I just picked 1 1905 1897 30 in full very good condition $550 50 of that was delivery fee, have a 500 moss as well, some one sanded it to bare metal, shit I put flex seal on barrel fine and dandy
Brother, do you have any handmade videos? Updater drawings
@Ray D I have a real one 30 inch barrel
Last 10 second is marvellous
I needed this
That just goes to show that it doesn’t matter how old something is that doesn’t make it obsolete 1800s and 1900s that’s when America made good guns nowadays they’re made a polymer and all that stuff
no bullshit, solid video, solid presentation love it
Huh, I actually learned something, didn't know that the shotgun could dump all it's shells like that.
It's called slamfire. The Ithaca 37 can do this as well. The German military in World War I hated this shotgun and wanted it removed from warfare cause it was so effective.
@@Beltzer0072 Actually no, I meant the rapid shell release to empty the tube.
Pretty neat, did'nt knew that either
@@eisenkrieg553 The later model 1897 could do that the first models had 2 screw instead of buttons...Dont ask me about serieal numbers but this is a E model 1897 thing (E stand above the serial number)
They didnt call it the trench sweeper for nothing
Where can I get one of these? Are they common gun shop items or are replicas rare and hard to come by?
Dax Marshall they stopped producing these shotguns in the mid 50s but you might get lucky at an auction or by placing for a special order.
Also depends on what state you're from since some states are very gun restrictive for example California.
Dax Cimmaron has clones .
Made in Japan, Italy the originals are fairly common in the long barrel i got one in 16ga
I really like his perfection remarkable
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Hermosa escopeta la Winchester
Old is gold very old model but strong and exellent pump action
holy Mary mother of slam fire
Great things .I dream of owning one .They are exponentially cooler with a Colt New Service , a bayonet bigger than your children and a Sword
My grandfather just gave me his old one I know someone would pay a fortune for it but they could offer me 10 mill for it and I still wouldn’t sell it best of luck finding one
What shells are you using I have one but I am worried about the ammo
I was using standard 1200fps target loads
How many rounds does the Winchester 97 shotgun hold?
5+1
@@Mason-zp8yb What is the shooting range?
I've counted the shots and the rounds he loaded, 1 in the chamber, 6 in the magazine.
i could probably want a 20 minute video of someone pumping and loading this gun
It's a beautiful thing.
Great final shot!
Que raridade! 👏👏👏👍
Essa Espingarda é show !!!
No not really they made almost a million of them.
Looks nice. Good shooting!
Hola
Whoch models have a thing for dumping shells?
What load of 12 where you shooting?
Adamlar yüz yıl önce yapmış. Biz daha yeni aldik
Are you using regular 3-inch shells?
23/4 they are not chambered in 3 inch
@@krisrooney2283 Found that out earlier, but thank you anyway.
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Beauty Sweet gun,Want one, Amazing gun
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Nice slow mo, I am going to get a 1897 probably a Cimarron .
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I have almost the same one but in long barrel .Thats hammer is inside other wise the same one winchester made.
Awesome mechanism in this rifle
А я думал в ружье важны кучность,точность,удобство прицеливания,ведения стрельбы по нескольким целям. Оказывается это штурмовая пушка для невротиков.
Very good gun iski price Kiya hai and pasta Kiya hai plece jawab dena
is that made in 1897 ??
The Model 1897 was produced by Winchester from 1897 until 1957 with over 1,000,000 guns produced.
Iska price kiya hai khan milegi
बहुत अच्छी बन्दूक है इसका मूल्य क्या है मैं अपनी बन्दूक बदल कर लेना बेरल की लम्बाई क्या है
Love it bro 😍😍
Sir ye shotgun mujhe mil sakti hai kya mere pass license available hai
Very powerfull and nice gun
What's the price?
Great video! I just got a '93. I need BP for my gun hole...
Gun model number btana..prices bhi..
Bhai mere ko kharedne h ye.
Btao kaha s melegi.
Please....
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PhoenixPhart
How did you do that?
@@samsum4525
there's two buttons on the side of the receiver that directly interact with the cartridge stops inside it. pushing them pushes the stops inward, causing the rims of the cartridges to be no longer stopped by them. the spring of the magazine does the rest.
Last short💯❤️
Beautiful Gun I salute
Is this real gun or not
my favorite!
Diseño y desarrollo Browning.
La 1887 otro fenómeno.
La Ithaca 37 lo mismo.
La lista es interminable.
Browning y todo dicho.
Presiosa escopeta de la Winchester,🤠🤠
किमत बताया, कहाँ से मिले पता भेजे धन्यवाद जी
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Nice video
What is the name of this gun
uma babaquice ninguem esta vendo a precisao desta espingarda 12 de rep estas atirando no que e com que distancia para que as pessoas tenhan uma noçao?
Very beautiful rifle
"Shotgun"
I just bought a 1905 1897 30 full choke will it shoot 3 1/2 shells
Only if you want to shoot it for the last time. I highly would recommend against shooting shells longer than the chamber length as this would cause over pressure in the chamber and could rupture your barrel.
@@PhoenixPhart thank you, I asked because have a box of 3 1/2 to give away can't use 🤓 then Mossberg 2 3/4
Very good
Loads?
Sensacional 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
But You can't hit the target
JUST picked 1 up. Paid 200. Thing works like a charm...
I wants this gun
Please ask me price and formularies for getting the same
What is price and formularies for getting the same? Is that OK?
Wow nice gun,how much
Nossa está e boa quero uma dessa pra roça
Nice Gun
Wild
Quien me puede decir dónde encuentro una de esas porfa 😔
Waw....Nice gun...
I need this Shotgun, how much it cost, plz
I have one
@@TheFantasticWayne where r u from? Can you courier it to India? How much it cost? Really im serious about it.
Slamfire well done
Вот это класс лучше чем наша МР 153
这支枪， 一看就有些年头了。
I know of one that only holds 3 shells
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we can find this shotgun in games????
Red Dead Redemption II
@@herrcobra4144 👍🏻
На уток можно охотиться?
Nice how price .?
Is it available in INDIA
Nice video Sir g
What a beautiful gun, I hope to see the handmade video or drawings
Gostei muito, muito bom show de bola !!!!
Valeu forte abraço !!!
@@edivanmoreira4589 Qual é o nome dessa arma! Você pode fazer mais vídeos sobre essa arma? Princípio de tiro
@@edivanmoreira4589 Irmãos têm mais vídeos sobre essa arma?
Price
Quanto custa essa Caribe 12
Super wingester short gun
its a gud model 🙏😍