Everyday Carry Tourniquet ⎮ETQ Snakestaff Systems Review and Testing⎮
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- The Snakestaff systems everyday carry tourniquet (ETQ) is the first windlass style TQ designed specifically for EDC. This video is a full test and review the ETQ. Is it the next best thing in bleeding control, or will it go the way of the RATS tourniquet?
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Super weird about the wide test - I have watched it a bunch of times now, and it seems like it just wasn’t pulled very tight initially, the most important step for any TQ. And I’m sure one more turn of the windlass would have occluded the blood flow. We have never heard or seen of a Doppler/ultrasound test failure for either of the ETQs, and we tested it various times, and many other people have as well.
Thank you for your testing and feedback! I don’t want to throw shade on Shawn - but I applied these ETQs many hundreds of times on myself, going more turns than were ever needed for complete occlusion, and I never was in extreme pain unless I left it on at those higher than needed pressures.
Sure, I was likely more willing to endure the pain as it was my product I was developing, and lives depended on it, but still - wasn’t ever no thang. I did have red marks on my skin very often for a year and a half though 😂
We will use this feedback to continue improving the ETQ, although we are very confident that it works in its current form, nothing is perfect, and we will do whatever we can to increase the chance of saving a life. Cheers, and thank you for all that you do for the community 🍻
I love the idea of a less bulky option, but they are sold out and don’t ship to Europe , is there any plan for shipping here ?
@@tigerrr6 Yep, sometime this year we will have distributors set up in Europe. Not sure on when exactly yet, but we are working on it.
@@BenfromFlux thanks for the reply! Looking forward.
From all the reviews I've found of this product I think ditching the carabiner and the glowstick and adjusting the attachment point of the internal strap could be the way to go for a gen2 ETQ. I really like the idea and I'm loking forward to international sales too.
Side note: Is the clasp needed to close securely like in a weight rated carabiner or can I remove it?
@@wDeXteR4 The carabiner gate is necessary, yes, don’t remove it.
As far as improving it by removing those features, we are testing out removal of both. We have never found a more secure mechanism than the carabiner gate, be it in existing TQ designs or our own prototypes. While we will improve it, it’s not likely to go away except for possibly on a different TQ altogether. Feedback has been very good, outside of a few people having very minor difficulty, but the vast majority of professionals who have tested them like the gate. We will improve it though, make it even easier to use.
And for the glowstick, we are at 50/50 for getting rid of it. There are advantages, but it’s possible it would be better to remove it. It would be great to drop a dollar off the price and get more out there, and removing it would make it marginally smaller. It was always intended as an optional thing, just “break it or remove it if you don’t like it” kinda thing.
We are testing and debating all sorts of things as feedback comes in.
Thanks for your input brotha 🤙
If the new ETQ doesn’t save your life that legendary moustache will.
😅
He’s like Magnum, T.Q.
I didn’t know Thoughty 2 was a trained medic…?
…whaaaaat?
Sounds like there’s a struggle snuggle in order 😂
I just got one and I like the concept of them. My opinion on it is not to replace the CAT or SOF-T those are preferred and should be employed when possible but look at the ETQ as a compromise of carry just like a subcompact handgun because having some capability with you is better then none. Also as a hopefully added bonus maybe the buzz around these lately gets more people interested in learning how to use a TQ, taking stop the bleed classes and having them on hand.
Absolutely. I however will be waiting until a couple more generations of the ETQ come out.
This is absolutely the purpose of the ETQ, although we do want it to be as easy to use as possible. In addition, we wanted to make a splash, make it “cool” so that it would get more people thinking about carrying TQs, whatever one they choose. 🤙
If you can't carry the sofT then you got bigger problems than a controlling a hemorrhage
@@PrepMedic likewise. I’ll be picking one up because…🤓 but also to have in my Stop The Bleed examples box. This’ll be in the, “Interesting, but let’s wait and see.” Box while the RAT/STAT stay in the, “Please just don’t.” Box.
@@BenfromFlux Making a "splash" and "making it cool" should never be a condsideration of a life saving device IMO. I bought two ETQ regulars and one wide and I have to agree with Sam. The fabric does stick to itself and rolls up at the most inopportune times during deployment and application. The pain level is also much higher the others. The idea of a more compact tourniquet is nice, but the first gen of these leaves some things to be desired. I work hard for my money and have some regrets for my $100 plus dollars spent on these.
Finally something developing in the edc market for medical! I am no gray man and while I respect people who carry something like the LTC edc medical kit (bulky as hell still), that doesn't come without some compromises in your wardrobe. Nice to see something try fit the edc market where you can wear unsuspecting clothing but be somewhat prepared.
This is how I look at it. On my gun belt, in my range bag, in my med kits, in my house and in my vehicles I have regular CAT TQs. Tried and true and won’t (hopefully) let you down. But they’re big and bulky for EDC purposes which is less than ideal. So I picked up one of these ETQs. Is it the best option? Maybe. Maybe not. Am I more likely to actually carry it everyday? 1000% yes. The best TQ is the one you’ll actually carry and for on person EDC this is the only one I’ve found that I’ll actually carry every single day. Not saying I’d recommend my mindset but for me personally it’s either this or nothing (at least nothing on the market right now) so it’s a win.
A swat T in the back pocket. A rats staged in pocket, etc. Gives you options.
How much stuff can I Cary in my cargo pockets? I do have IFAK in cargo pocket but space is at a premium.. this one not sure if is beats swat T in my back pocket and rats in front pocket..
How many pouches can I have on belt? Not sure about this one for space/ risk/ chances of needing it..
@@mysticjedi6730 rats suck ass and honestly shouldn’t even be considered at this point when the ETQ is out. Swat t is definitely more carry-able, but idk if its more effective than the ETQ. Its also not TCCC approved although the reason why is kinda obvious to how swat ts work so up in the air on that.
Lastly, cargo pants/shorts is purely a preference. Personally, EDC items should live around my lifestyle and not me sacrificing or buying an entire new wardrobe just to carry my gun, CAT TQ, etc you name it. Part of being prepared means reading terrain and while I can’t predict the future, I make smart decisions which therefore I can “risk” not carrying a full ifak in my pocket like some guys claim to. I’m also not a “gray man” and its a fine line between being prepared and be paranoid. I’m just a dude who likes to wear clothes that a typical guy would wear in today’s age, but carry essentials.
I do agree with Luke that what you have on you is what you have. No use in buying all this gear if you don’t truly carry it everyday. Some guys probably do carry an entire day 3 assault pack loadout to go grocery shopping perhaps, but that’s just not realistic for most people.
@@richieewinns I disagree. Just buy cargo pants from now on. Its not a sacrifice to say to myself from now on only buy pants with cargo pockets.
Give the swat T a try in back pocket.. the wrapper can deteriorate in time so I put it in another plastic bag.
I have been in car crash, come across fatality car crash, been seriously injured myself. Especially as a young child.
I would reconsider your position.
Emergency communications, self protection and medical..
I had a friend landscaping and a tree branch went through his leg.. what do you know. His cell phone is dead battery.. so is his friends.. no way yo call 911. He had to send a friend to find a phone... they had no ifak or skills, etc.
One reason I carry 2 cell phone. (Remote situation radio, locator beacon)
Life is a special operation. Victory favors the prepared. My suggestion: keep working on your skills, wisdom and equipment.
@@mysticjedi6730 like i said, fine lime between prepared and paranoid. The great thing about EDC is its personable and only pertains to one’s self.
You choose to wear cargo pants but I rather not, pros and cons to both. Statistically the most dangerous moments of your life is in your car driving so of course that is well stocked with supplies. On my person, i carry what I think I need, not what I may need in an extremely specific circumstance. If you are that guy who carries 2s of everything and his entire footlocker on you then more power to you, but realistically im telling you, that isn’t viable for probably majority of people.
I value convenience and comfort a bit more than having extra batteries or etc. im also not in the woods but in a heavily populated city so your environment does dictate what your edc is.
@@richieewinns that was my friend's attitude until he got injured, no IFAK and no emergency communications.
Having self protection, emergency communications and IFAK is not paranoid.. I have been in car wrecks MYSELF. Been attacked by random thugs myself .
Being reasonably prepared is just smart. One day you will realize I am right.
I love my ETQ and I'd rather have it with me than a larger and better one I don't have with me. Great video
Thanks for the review of this! As a woman who is also a shooting sports instructor I am always looking for medical and stop the bleed equipment that is practical and something that I can realistically carry. So far every ankle IFAK has been just too big for me and most of my female students. Carrying a gun, extra mags and medical equipment on us when we can't even get decent pockets on our clothing is very difficult and incredibility frustrating. Thanks again.
2 words. FANNY PACK!
@@rebel_scum_Unfortunately most uniforms you can't have a fanny pack. Think Police, Fire, Paramedic even most work places won't let you have it with you. Also if you carry a gun the fanny pack will be in the way. :)
@Jo supermom hang on, you carry a gun for a living, and your uniform doesn't have pockets? ***mind blown***. I carry a gun everyday and the fanny pack runs right in front. Sure its not always the most "comfortable" but it never is carrying extra tools all the time. If your wearing a duty belt you don't have room for your IFAK? I'm really not trying to be a argumentative here, I'm truly curious.
@Jo supermom also, if your on duty wouldn't the med kit you carry be determined by your department and have to be TCCC rated? I don't see these mini EDC type tqs being the "go to" for LEO and first responders just yet as they don't have any kind of track record behind them.
@@rebel_scum_ The short answer is no. All equipment is department dependent. What you get from most police departments are: badges, hats, jackets, most pins, rain gear and uniforms. Most departments don't supply: firearms or ammo. Police officers are expected to supply their own ammunition pouches, flashlights, flashlight holders, gun belts, handcuffs, holsters, and any medical equipment they want to carry and in most cases their own body armor. There are some departments that are awesome and not only supply the officers with guns and ammo but all of the gear that they need to be safe, usually it is a smaller department. Big departments like L.A. Chicago, Denver, Austin, You are on your own. I know officers that carry paracord and a pen for "just in case" they need a TQ. Also most departments if you want any more training after the academe that comes out of your own pocket. :(
I have CAT and SOF-T that I keep in an IFAK and my range bag, but they are both too large (for me, anyway) to EDC. I’ve carried the ETG every day since I’ve received it. Therein lies the value of this product. I look at it like carry pistols- a P365 might not by as accurate as a G17, but the 365 opened up carry to so many more people who couldn’t or wouldn’t before. That being said, I think your review is very fair and brought up some good points. I will continue to carry mine.
I really appreciate your transparency and honesty. I'm 5'4" and 130 pounds, and I've struggled to find a way to comfortably and consistently carry a TQ on-body with options like the CAT and SOF-T. So much so that in many cases I've ended up leaving it behind out of frustration. Similar to defensive tools, I'd rather have something somewhat less than ideal that I can actually carry. My CAT or SOF-T won't do me much good if they're not with me, after all.
Keeping the cons you demonstrated in mind, I do think I'll end up grabbing both the standard/thin version and wide version of the ETQ for my own testing (carry and deployment). My thought is that the ETQ will be on-body EDC when I'm out and about, while keeping my other options in the car + home (or shoulder bag/backpack if I'm carrying one). I'll also be eagerly awaiting TCCC tests. Cheers for the video!
I know whats that like i dont like carrying a TQ pouch on my belt and then keeping a C.A.T in a pocket when Im off duty.
You must carry a Jennings .25 for protection. 🤡
@4udience0f0ne what has been your experience carrying the 2 sizes of ETQ? Is the wider version carryable/concealable or do you default to the skinnier one? I'm only a little taller/heavier than you so I have had similar questions on whether to get the standard or wider ETQ. Thanks!
I really appreciate this video as a Police Officer. I carry the CAT and it's what I prefer. I was looking to purchase these to save some space on my kit, but I changed my mind. I'd rather have the CAT take more space but have peace of mind knowing it could save my life if needed.
'Cutting edge v bleeding edge'. Nice turn of phrase. I have carried a CAT in a stop-the- bleed kit since 2018, and recently switched to carrying the SOF-T wide. That in of itself makes the kit so much more compact. Having said that, the self application isn't as easy as the CAT. I think I will stick to those two. :)
Been looking at this TQ. Happy surprise that you did another honest review. Thanks for the video!
I think it will work well for a majority of users but I don’t like “thinking” something will work, and there are enough little things that I would rather wait for a gen2 and some independent testing.
I never carried a tq before, but now I carry the etq all of the time. It's size makes it incredibly convenient. If the choice is between carrying a etq or not having a tq, carry the etq. Awesome tests, I definitely learned a thing or two about tq's and their application.
I'm in the same boat. Maybe not optimal, but better to have this than nothing!
Same here, an etq has been riding in my front pocket for about 2 months now. Its got some fuzz and lint on it but thats it
It seems like if they refine the band itself by adding texturing or increase its weaves to make it slightly thicker, it should help with tangling and maybe even with pain, albeit to a minor degree. Glad someone's trying to make something more practical for EDC though. At this point I either go all in and carry a med bag with CATS, or I take absolutely nothing and rely on my medical knowledge as a former Hospital Corpsman. It'll be nice to have an in-between option
I think you're right. Elsewhere, @PrepMedic said he'll be waiting for revised versions, and that seems like a likely revision. Some kind of internal stiffener spaced throughout the band seems like it could solve a lot of problems in one go, and without adding much weight or thickness. Overall it seems like a great idea in concept, and somewhat mediocre in execution. I bet in 2-3 years we'll get another video where the new version performs much better.
That being said, it would still wager it's better to carry this than nothing at all.
@Ragnar Danneskjold I went back and looked at the comments. If they actually turn their marketing towards it being a trial product or even prototype testing, I'm sure they'll get enough people invested to make upgrades or redesign it outright because the demand is huge. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for it and hope Prepmedic will too. But also, yes without proper medical training, a background in the medical field, and trauma experience, I would always recommend finding a way to carry something over nothing at all. Even if there's a 5%, chance where you're going might have a gunshot wound or severe extremity laceration, take a bag and toss some TQ's.
Love the channel my guy!! I literally just received a Live the Creed EDC Pocket Trauma Kit I ordered. It has the option of a Swat T to this EQT, and I didn't think the EQT was going to fit inside of the IFAK. To my surprise it does just as the swat t fits. I had never heard of this tourniquet before. It seems pretty legit and the compact nature of it is pretty amazing. Saw this vid pop up on my feed and was very interested to see your thoughts. In my opinion if it gets the job done as a compact issue I say it's a go. Adding to that I would always have Cats in vehicles or packs.
That skinny one spooks me. I had to use three at a time to modulate occlusion pressure for 45 minutes (crank one/loosen one/leave one) on an above knee femoral perforation (accidental, self-inflicted firearm discharge at the range) once to keep the poor fellow from squirming or passing out in shock until paras could arrive. Loaned him the rest of his life that day.
Great review! I've been wondering about your thoughts on the ETQ ever since it released! Really appreciate the tests you did and your honesty about the product. I personally bought one to add to my edc and I love how compact it is. While I think they absolutely nailed the form factor and build quality, I feel like this is a good "first draft" of what could be an amazing new tourniquet. If they're able to make it more effective in simulated bleeding control tests, then it would be the perfect every day carry tourniquet, which is their goal.
Thanks for this. I missed their last batch and was considering hopping on the upcoming one. Will probably just pass on it now and stick to what's highly tested.
Hey man could you give me your thoughts or make a video on the anti choking device life vac.
This was a great video, however, I think that your main problem with the wide on the lower extremity was not getting the band tight enough initially. Granted I'm sitting at my desk watching the video vs actually being there in person but I noticed some things right away. The proper way to apply a TQ on someone else is to pull the band towards yourself not away from yourself. This way you are able to get enough leverage and you are pulling towards yourself not away or at an awkward angle. This was one of the most important things taught in TECC. With this in mind, I think that you didn't get enough of a pull on the band on the initial pull which resulted in more twists needed to stop blood flow. You could even hear Shawn say "don't be afraid to cinch it down", which to my understanding meant to make it tighter. Either way, I think the wide deserves another chance on the lower extremities. Just my 2 cents
My conclusion as well - and the 1" version was pulled tight enough, which is why it worked without issue, even though it technically needs to be a little more tight than the 1.5".
I keep coming back to the adage used with handguns, that the mouse gun in your pocket is better than the full size gun you left at home. I can’t rule these out, they are going to be better than tying someone off with a belt or rope and certainly better than letting them bleed out. I have some of these and some CAT tourniquets. I leave a CAT in my car which may be too far from the injury, but this is in my pocket.
The chem light replacements could be for if you accidentally break it in the course of everyday carry such as on keys or in a pocket, you can replace it to have for when you actually need to use it
Yeah but (in my opinion) it’s a pointless feature to begin with so 🤷♂️. I do agree with you though. That makes more sense
This is great feedback! I hope the manufacturer sees this and considers your constructive criticism.
My thoughts on this are if you already carry a tourniquet regularly, no need to switch. If this is the difference between carrying and not carrying one, get it.
Most people travel by car and are not that far away from it for a significant amount of time. (work, school, grocery store, etc.) This is the TQ that at minimum gets you back to your vehicle med kit while you wait for medical help to arrive.
Personally been running the XT for a couple years. I absolutely love the one-handed use and ease of application, but... They're bulky... The ETQ is definitely a fame changer when it comes to form factor, and I feel they nailed it in that regard. The primary issues with it, tho, are as you've stated. They're painful to apply, even tho the constricting band is the same width as other options on the market.
Would love to see more quantitative data on these in the near future since they're still basically brand new. Perhaps a second iteration or revision may be in order 🤔
Maybe I’m doing it wrong, but I LOATHE the XT. The buckle piece always seems to catch the teeth too early and not enough cinch leverage is able to be applied both on patient application and self-application. I’ve also had in occasion the buckle cant and now the teeth are not engaged in any of the holes.
The thinner a tourniquet is the less effective it becomes at compression.
Been using CAT tourniquets for a long time and have used them to actually stop bleeding 3 times. They are 100% effective.
Also under stress, the larger something is the easiest it is to use.
I get wanting to make things smaller for carry. But for life saving tools, it shouldn't be a priority over functionality.
Do you on-body carry your CAT everyday?
Love your vids because off them I am going into paramedic school later on in life
I have two and they are awesome I wish they had a case that easily attaches to molle pouches but other then that it's awesome
Thanks!
I hope this is the first step of many to made medical much more EDC friendly without sacrificing effectiveness of whatever adjunct is being carried
Just bought 2 today then saw this video in my feed, lol! I really don't care if it's not as good as a cat or whatever.
I've tried incorporating all the other TQ's into my edc and it just never really works out. If I'm actually able to carry this thing it's a win in my book!
Huge thank you for taking the time to test and review these and sharing your thoughts and experiences with it!
Thanks for providing a very honest and transparent review. Very well done.
Seems decent. Time will tell. I’d like to see an orange or bright colored version though
I think the key to everyday carrying a tourniquet is in the carry application, and not the tourniquet itself. I have carried a CAT on my person every day for years now using an IWB pouch that sits in appendix carry, made by Immediate Casualty Care. It’s simply a soft pouch with a metal clip for the waistband, it cost me $25 and it’s the most comfortable, simplest way to carry a TQ. I have tried many ways before, this one works.
he siad you would say that.
I bought one of these and I like it but honestly I need something that is on the outside of the belt now. An appendix holster and this is way too much.
Great review!! Thank you. Always looking for new stuff for the team.
Id say its really good for people who wouldn't normally carry one. If it does work you could save a life, if it doesn't work its just as effective as if you didn't carry one at all.
Good job on making Shawn cry!
good to see this.
I actually have a problem with the CAT tourniquet, in that there are so many counterfeits out there that I can't feel confident buying them from a lot of stores!
Could the chemlight be a sort of an application timer? If the chemlight has gone out, it's been on too long?
Amazon is flooded with knock offs!! Most people recommend buying directly from North American Rescue.
Your chemlight timer idea is pretty cool, but there are too many factors that shorten chemlight life (age, exposure to heat).
great video, great info, great experiment, keep up the amazing work you do on CZcams.
I got the ICC from one of your videos. Been using it and happy. Just ordered 2 of these.
I appreciate the way you reviewed this product. Very well done. Subscribed with the bell activated.
I'd like to see a follow up in a year or two to see if the evidence supports it's use. Anything that is a smaller form factor and just as effective would be money, thank you!
I agree these TQ’s are super new and there is no data to support them at this time. But…the lower extremity application was not correct. Upon application there was about 5-6 inches of his upper leg which was available above the TQ. Raising the TQ (high and tight) would help tremendously, as I bet you know. Also gotta say…most lower extremities need two TQ’s (CATS)(stacked/staggered) especially on a dude that size. Which I bet you also already know. Just some info for people watching this that maybe haven’t had TCCC 10+ times. (My background: basic SWAT, Firearms instructor, ALERT AAIR instructor, few other things). 15:01. I agree these should not replace your CATs just yet. I just don’t see why you put a “FAIL” on these when all that info is general TQ knowledge.
Looking at the big picture here. The ETQ is smaller and lighter than a RATS tourniquet while being more effective. So it’s promising at the very least. As for the pain, yeah it sucks. But pain from a TQ that you had on you is better than death from the TQ you didn’t have.
Is it more effective? Where is the data on that?
Intrigued, not gonna recommend it to friends right now but definitely want to see what a 2nd generation looks like as well as having some independent scientific studies and, ideally, independent testing to failure
Signed, an AEMT
Thank you Sam. I was curious about this new contender.
You EDC min-max.
I just want a smaller TQ on my duty belt.
We are not the same
So in use as an EDC not for hiking or any situations where it will be 30+ minutes for a first responder to arrive would this be a viable option when calculating the patients pain? For instance GSW to the extremity with an arterial bleed, apply the ETQ quickly and have that on for at most 15 minutes before having a first responder on scene or self transport.
I just bought two of these and I will be very interested getting my hands on them and testing them. Glad that a company is addressing a EDC TQ instead of RATS or SWAT T.
Props to the program they have to where they will replace the one you use in the event you use it in the real world. Helps them collect that data and keep their customers happy.
Interesting product and thank you to your test subject for enduring the pain. My tourniquet is the most important part of my EDC in my opinion. I’m not inclined to make compromises with it. I’ll find other places to shed weight and bulk to carry an approved full sized device.
if they can bring the price down and have them tested more i can see these changing the market
Why would you need the wide over the standard?
Nice. I often don't carry a CAT because they're so bulky. This will be nice for summer carry in the Cargo Shorts.
Mahalo for the review. I was considering going for one of these however I went with the Swat_T in my edc as it has been shown to be effective on small children- one area even the CAT fails at.
I like my SOF-T's and they are flat and small enough for me, but I like this option better than a belt or some makeshift option.
"Heaven forbid, the RATs tourniquet." A thousand times yes!
You definitely touched on ALL of my concerns Lol seems like it’ll stop itself from being applied, especially in a heart pounding, adrenaline fueled situation 🤷♂️
you must be an expert
@@JR-lg7fd You must be a shill then. See how these accusations work?
@@dickinsteinblowitz7102 she sills sea shills by the sea shore
With regard to the intro where you mention not recommending this because you don't want to be the test dummy, I'd like to add something. There are MANY people who don't carry a tq simply because they are bulky. If you're one of those people, then you might as well get a tq like this one, despite it's lack of research. I would much rather have a tq that will "probably" work, than have no tq at all
It’s been a year since this video was posted, how have the new TQ held up in that time?
I’ll revisit this product in a year or two when there’s more data. I think the idea is really good but I want it proven first
This will go nicely in my edc bag next to my soft armor and CCW. Nar tourniquets are pretty bulky for some niche kit. I'll try one when they restock
The instructions to place high on the limb between injury and heart (High & Tight) conflict Stop the Bleed (2-3" above injury between injury and heart.)
Agreed
Really interesting video...Just a quick question about the "failure"...I wonder in the real world how much blood would continue to be lost? Obviously a TQ should cut off all blood flow, but even if I TQ reduced the flow by just 90% would that be enough to save someones life or control the situation untill a paramedic arrives and applies another more effective TQ?
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I would really like your opinion on the rapidstop ratcheting tourniquet by rapidstop usa.
You didn't do anything wrong homie. Pressure just gets complicated in three dimensions. There are a lot more squishy bits in thigh than a bicep. More meat below means more opportunity for forces to be displaced. That'll increase the amount of force you need to to apply for the same effect. By switching to the 1 inch band you decreased the surface area, which in turn increases the amount of force experienced over the new, smaller cross-section. Albeit a more painful experience.
Sorry if this is confusing. Best I can explain without doing math.
Speed of application is not as necessary as need of accuracy. An emergency is an emergency but ask anyone who’s used a CAT, it only matters if it’s used correctly. Also pain I get but also < getting shot/stabbed/any other reason to use a TQ
I actually just recently picked one of these snakestaff TQ's up recently, because I wanted to start carrying some EDC medical gear on me, and I thought it would be much easier to carry something smaller and lighter over bulkier and heavier items, and for that purpose, actually getting people to carry them every day, I think they have a winner here, but it would be nice to see them make some of these corrections in a future version update. I have a few different styles of TQ, any thoughts on the SWAT-T? It's a bit heavier but folds very small and flat. I don't see them recommended very often but seems interesting in theory. I keep one in my hiking backpack, figured I could also use it to make a splint or pressure wrap if needed. I like the versatility, not sure how they would do for a GSW.
“… heaven forbid, the Rats TQ” 😂😂😂
Great review!
Something like a rats or snakestaff isn't a primary TQ. You should have cat 7 TQ everywhere but they are to big to have in a pocket. It's like a pistol you don't want to use it and a rifle is much better but you can't carry a rifle everywhere. You use the pistol/snakestaff/rats to give you time to get to your rifle/cat7 that is in your car or bag.
I'd like to see this and the raptor response included in a higher end ultralight trauma kit for the hiking community that can't afford to carry the weight of a dedicated trauma kit.
A narrower tq would take more pressure to stop the bleeding and can cause more nerve damage. Also it would be extremely painful. I guess it is better than no tq but there's a reason 1.5 inch is the minimum for a tq.
Have you considered a breakdown of the X8T? I have 2 and find them super easy to use.
Just curious which size you'd recommend
I wish I would’ve had one in 72 when I got bit by a Cottonmouth while surveying a canal, we were over 4 miles from any roads and 25 miles from a hospital, they used a belt on me but I had to walk the 4 miles
Well it’s a good thing that they didn’t have a TQ because it is an old myth that you are supposed to do a tourniquet after a snake bite.
Right off the top it is maybe half the width of a standard tourniquet. And a narrow tourniquet is supposed to cause more pain and tissue damage.
Better than paracord, I guess, but "too narrow to be approved" kinda ends the story for me. Even if the chemlight as an indicator does seem slick.
Thank you for the video!
I keep seeing things I want to add to my EDC loadout, and I keep reminding myself of Steven Roberts's "Applied Law of Gizmology," which holds that "an infinite number of very light things becomes infinitely heavy." I would add that such a number of very compact things would become infinitely bulky.
That said, my usual pocket carry includes a Live the Creed "wallet," with (2) 2' QuikClot packets, a pair of gloves, and a SWAT-T tourniquet (yes, I know it's not as effective as a SOF-T, but hear me out). I can use the SWAT-T to hold the QuikClot in place (in lieu of an Israeli bandage or OLAES), which gives me a little bit of versatility (as long as I'm not treating myself).
If I'm a little bit less subtle, I have no problem carrying a shoulder bag that has a SOF-T (or two if I'm in protest space) mounted externally, and with an emergency blanket and other low-volume trauma gear like your vacuum-sealed package from another video.
Watching this review, I don't see myself buying the Snakestaff ETQ, but it's good to know it's on the market.
Will you do a follow up video later in the future updating your recommendations once further data is available? I would love to have a less bulky TQ for my EDC medkit
While I have a Cat-T that is in my car or when I go shooting or outdoors, this one looks like a good option for when I fly or space is limited on a road trip with someone else so gear I can bring is limited.
The Sam XT is the best for a wounded people without much strength and help from others
The pressure required that you mentioned do not make sense to me, it's backwards. Anytime you have a smaller foot print, you will have higher pressure per square inch with the same amount of weight(tightening turns). that's why the skinny one worked.
Sam looks like he belongs in a fire department with that stash 😂
Thanks for testing and sharing on this. I carry CATs (and a couple SWAT-T) in my backpack, car, home, etc..around in various places but often only have a single SWAT T when I go into grocery store and sometimes nothing around the office for meetings. I would be almost for sure able to carry this in my suit jacket pocket daily and thus have one on hand everywhere. Hopefully it will pass TCCC testing but in the meantime, I’m down to pay for innovation in this space and carry a TQ that shows a lot of promise and could potentially save mine or someone else’s life
Thanks dude. We will continue to improve the design, and test out other methods of fulfilling the same goal.
@@BenfromFlux you should be really proud of what you and your colleagues have accomplished. Also, I noticed a few of your comments here and on SkinnyMedics channel, super gracious and kind to even your detractors…impressive and refreshing to see
@@OPiguy35 thanks dude. I just tattooed the Snakestaff logo Wednesday! I wanted to carry a TQ myself, but found it cumbersome, made one for myself. Realized it could save a lot of lives if we made it a product, and well, here we are.
We will have accomplished our goal if we convince a lot of people to start carrying TQs, even if they choose other options besides our own product. 🍻
Just bought two wides (regular was already out of stock)
Would love some orange versions in the future (I don’t need it tactically) but totally understand you can’t add everything all at once.
I’d be down to have the little glow stick removed (both cost and function) but may change my mind once I try it out.
@@OPiguy35 awesome! Yeah, both orange and blue are planned, just not sure when it will happen yet. Please let me know if you have any feedback once you check it out. 🤙
Honestly I think I will stick with my SOFT but will reconsider if approved by CTCCC
So this is basically on par with the Recon TQ and TQ bracelet. Just put a CAT in your pocket, Fanny pack or ankle IFAK.
I would hazard a guess that the failure rate will surpass the recon.
@prepmedic can you provide data or vids of Recon failing I’m curious
I just purchased mine
Any updates on this TQ?
At least its not just a rip off. Also not a rats. Version 2 of these could be really good.
Agreed on both accounts
Test Rhino Rescue stuff please. I don't mind buy and send some for u to test them.
oh my saving lives make you look more and more like a hero. =) great "schnurbart" moustache
That would be great for Mountain biking.
Seems cool. Not sure if the band is wide enough for effective use.
I'm here for the 70's Por n Stache! 😆
I feel like the thigh application was a bit low. Needs to be tested further up the leg. We never put our surgical TQs that low. You will have more surface contact or engagement of the artery further up the thigh. His pain experience may have been also due to the lower placement and contact with the saphenous nerve running proximal of the knee, close to the area where you were placing the test TQ. I would be interested in seeing if the results were the same with a more proximal placement.
Studies have shown that TQs are more effective the lower on the extremity they are placed. Hence why high and tight application is only used when the site of bleeding cannot be immediately identified. Current teaching is to apply the TQ 2-4 inches above the wound.
@@PrepMedic My only issue with applying so close to the wound area is especially in the case of a traumatic amputation, the artery can retrograde or retract as much as 10-15cm away from the detachment injury. In this case, placing it so close to the injury will not occlude the bleed as the TQ will now be lower than the artery end. If we teach everyone high and tight then there is no delay in occlusion due to unseen issues that a lesser trained individual may not be able to diagnose or pinpoint during a stressful event. That is just based on my experience and training. I will be looking for the additional studies you have stated exist and attempt to educate myself on alternate training methods though. Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work.
What are your thoughts on the…interesting proposition that a CAT tourniquet should be stored and deployed in the plastic because it might get contaminated with lead from being used on the range?
Glad I saw this before I bought one, damn it though!
What's the name of that device that amplifies the sound of the pulse? Also, I thought it was a very creative way to run a test. It gives the viewer both auditory and visual reference of when circulation stops. Did the pulse ox also change?
Hello Sam,
Need to ask you a question, not fooling around.
If you have a bachelor degree in sciences of paramedic, would be better to try a Physician Assistant degree or a Master degree in Paramedic Sciences???
Hope you can talk about that.
Good luck bro, and thanks.
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