Do YOU know the Difference between RUM and SPICED RUM? (What is Spiced Rum)
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- In this video, I'm going to SHOW you the difference between Rum and Spiced Rum. Every Day, I get confused Rum lovers that compare Kraken Spiced Rum with a Proper Rum. Or even compare Bumbu Rum with Rum. Well of course, these are not Rum. So I'm going to show what a Spiced Rum actually is and hopefully help you to find your favourite Rum and Spiced Rum going forward!
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ron santisima trinidad 15. Try this rum. Very good one. Please do a. Review as well
Very informative video. Learned a lot. Thank you!
Thank you for this informative video. I’m in the states and this was still very helpful.
Very factual, right to the point and super easy to understand. The visuals with the sugar in the glasses was extremely effective at explaining things further.
Again, thank you for taking the time to educate us.
Thanks for watching! Plenty more of those videos here!
Thank you for being very informative and a joy to watch
Thank YOU for watching! 🤗
Really liked this, just what I’ve been looking for
I'm a scotch drinker, but I like darker rums as well. The darker the rum, the more tastier it is to me.
Just imagine if scotch makers started putting sugar in their bottles... Ugh, oh God the horror!
Try OVD sometime, nice and dark
@@insanejughead It's called scotch liqueurs ever heard of Drambuie....
@@liamrogers2152 Ah, nice. I've had it, but never considered looking into how it's made. I was more thinking of if scotch makers started putting sugar in it, but kept it labelled as "scotch".
Now I want some Drambuie, dang it...
This does not makes a lot of sense…. Very often the “dark” color is coming from caramel coloring, that is completely flavorless…. Meaning you might find very dark rums that are very young and rums that are aged quite a lot that are just brownish (because they do not have any added colorings). The color is not a good way to categorize rum.
Thanks mate. Very important to explain these insights. Highly appreciated Steve
Glad you enjoyed it Adrian!
Thanks for this, it was really helpful! 😊
Awesome video!! Thank You. I learned
Such a great video! This is something we try to point out as well. Rum is fun! Stop comparing and start enjoying the differences! Well done.
That’s the thing, you do have to compare. There just needs to be more clarity. If a Rum has 30g-40g of added Sugar, tell us. If it’s a Spiced Rum and not a “Premium Rum” like Bumbu claims to be, people need to know. It doesn’t matter if you like Spiced or Sweetened Rums, you just need to know what you’re buying!
Good info. Now I get it. Thanks!
Great video Steve! Dropping a few informative facts there
Cheers Steven! Just thought it'd help people!
@@StevetheBarmanUK I’m sure it will. Helped me at least. Didn’t realise some spiced rums were quite as heavy on the sugar as they apparently are!
Great video lots of info . And loving the barney rubble
Thanks 👍 Think it's here to stay! It's grown on me... Pun may or may not be intended!
Well they say you learn something new everyday, very informative
Interesting video and new information for me. I know from trying out some spiced rums that they are very different from normal rums and not my thing. Rum is my favorite spirit drink and I do wish to expand my knowledge on them.
most helpful info sir
What a fantastic vid ! Thank you as a life long rum fan I had no idea of the difference !
Cheers for watching Neil!! 👍👍
i love making spiced rum, though i could never bring myself to buy it. its really simple to make spiced rum, just take a rum you like and add whole spices. the recipe i like to use is for one 700ml bottle of rum: 6 all spice berries (lightly crushed), 1 stick of cinnamon (broken into smaller pieces), about 2oz of sliced fresh ginger, 3 cloves, 8 whole black peppercorns, orange peel (this one is more to taste in my experience, just make sure to use a citrus peeler to not get any white piff with it. i like about two big pulls of peel) and literally just combine everything in with the rum and let it infuse for about a day. its always a good idea to check it every couple hours though to make sure it doesnt get too much spice. i always add 2 teaspoons of demerara sugar as well, but this is optional.
That was fun. Thanks
STEVE!!!! Great video!!! I actually learned a little something!!! Now, I can go get some spiced rum now!!!! CHEERS!!!
Start the US trend mate!
Good video my friend!!
Great video again Steve! Still teaching me & love my teacher! (Ben in Ibiza 🙌🏻)
Cheers Ben! Hope all is well in Beefa? Hopefully warmer and drier than it is here (Sitting here in 5 layers including 2 hoodies and a Jumper! 😂)
Great information video. Now for some Rum cocktails Steve? Or spiced rum 🤔😆🍸👌👍😎
Great video! Ever some of the best bartenders need to watch this
Ha. Thanks for the kind words 🤗
I LOVE your rum collection behind you mate! The rum industry is still the wild, wild west and there is simply no internationally recognized classification that other spirits seem to enjoy (example Tequila). It seems to be left up to the countries of origin where it was distilled. Now that is getting convoluted when that rum gets barreled and aged in a different country where something might be added post distilling. I like how you classify Spiced rum as flavored rum. Very simple and to the point! I have a long list of rums that have undergone hydrometer tests which is helpful to determining if anything was "added" after the distilling process like sugar. When I review rums on video it is one of the things I as a Pirate touch on (purity test, lol)! I think there should be required "honest" labels on rums regarding ingredients added that is internationally agreed upon. I am a huge fan of Flor de Cana (yes, they got caught with dubious aging statements) as it is a real rum. Enjoyed the video!
I bought a bottle of rum that was rated very high, Plantation OFTD, but it's just not great served neat. I had about 375ml's left, so I decided to turn it into spiced rum. I put it in a jar with a Celestial Seasonings Bengal Spice tea, some orange peel, a few cloves, and half a cinnamon stick. I let it marinade for a couple days, then tasted it. It was pretty damn good. I added some simple syrup to sweeten it up, about a half a cup, and it's delicious. The Kirk and Sweeney 18yo is a great rum that I do enjoy neat.
Grate video.Learnt a lot
Cheers Sam!
For spiced I've been on a Black Magic bender for sometime. I mix it with apple cider and heat it up for the perfect simple task winter drink! You can also add some buttered rum ingredients. I also like Cruzan 9 spice, Blackheart, Bacardi Gold for its smoky ness and Krakkwn if its on sale. In the Rum category I don't have much experience but my wife and I went to the Dominican and went to the Bruegal factory. The extra Viejo is spendy but so so good. I like its earthy flavor. Great vid! I'll probably shoot for for Rums now because I don't want to drink so much sugar.
Steve!! Great educational stuff mate, geez that's a frightening amount of sugar involved, it's good to know what we're getting ourselves involved with, great video, cheers mate 🍻🥃
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
Great video Steve! Very informative! ....(insert snobby comment about Malibu :P)
hahah.... for info, Malibu is roughly 180g of Sugar per litre!
Heh, I'm trying to expand my knowledge of rum and this was quite helpful. I like Black Kracken and just tried Bumbu recently (I also liked it a lot - I found it quite smooth), but now I need to try some traditionals to see where my tastes lie. I did try some Cruzan blackstrap rum (after I found out Kracken isn't considered real black rum), and was quite surprised how much molasses flavor it had. Not horrible once you get accustomed to it, but still a big difference
Cool. That’s what it’s all about. Going on a little journey and discovering new stuff you like 👍
Give zaya, dictator 20 yr a try better than the rest
Matusalem is my favorite
Ron Matsuleam, Ron Zacappa, El Pasador de Oro all have great varieties. There are so many more to discover. When it comes to spiced, try to discover the different brands that use artificial versus natural flavours.
one of the best bang for buck brands around in my opinion is Flor de Cana, between them and Plantation it's hard to go wrong and your definitely wont break the bank
Sailor Jerry + Coke is my go to mixed drink. Appleton Estate reserve I sip like good tequila
They changed sailor jerry a few years ago and it sucks ass now
Interesting video even though I've never put much thought into rum since I've only had it in mixed drinks. The simplest being rum and Dr. Pepper but back in those days I couldn't even tell you what rum was in it other than the bottle said rum on it.
This was really interesting! I'm definitely a spiced rum {drink} kind of person, but I didn't know the true label difference involved
Wow, very informative. Thank you! I prefer RUM all the time and then my Whiskey's then Vodka's. I had no idea about the sugar levels which I do need to keep an eye out for health reasons. I just bought a place and still organizing but I am eventually going to make a little bar system and I will definitely look towards your video's for advice.
Cheers for watching 👍
I’m in New Zealand and this was fascinating! Thanks! I might even open my bottle of RNZN Rum…! Cheers!
Thank you for the straight forward info. I’m in canada but born in bristol, missing the UK. Be safe.
Thanks for watching Christina 🫶
I have in my little mini-bar some Bacardi 8, Appleton Estate 8, Dorado 12, Sailor Jerry and Kraken... for some reason I can't do white rums, it has to be golden or dark since I prefer them to be sweet and thanks to you, now I know why I like my darker rums!!!
Glad I helped Brent. Stick with us. And tune in one Sunday night for a Live Stream. They’re great fun 🤗
very informative Steve 😎👍
Cheers my friend!
Fascinating video. I had no idea spice rums had so much more sugars in it verse traditional. Favorite rum, I would have to point out that nice Appleton 12 year old is my go to. Last trip to Jamaica I picked up a 15 year old Appleton which was amazing. Maybe will get the 21 or 30 next time, I can hope lol.
Haha. I would live 21 and 30yo bottles!!!
I am drinking Kraken on ice while watching this and "Steve the Barman" has me smiling. He really gets excited about rum. I agree with him that rum and spiced rum are two different things that cannot, and should not, be compared.
He says Thank you!
Hi Steve, thank you very much for this Very Interesting and detailed explanation of the differences between Rum and spiced non-rum spirits. I have, as previously mentioned, a good armoury of both, though all at the affordable end, up to £30. I shall check every bottle I’ve got tomorrow morning and label them so as to easily know the sugar content in future. Well done! Nick from York
Glad it was helpful Nick! happy NY.
Ty for the info. Am a rum lover for a very long time...Spiced rum to be precise! ..but now that I know about sugar content I will be more mindful in buying any rum!
Glad to help. Just note, i didn't say any of that for Health reasons... but that is ultimately a reason to be mindful, of course. I said it purely to help people distinguish between the sweetness of PROPER RUM versus SPICED & FLAVOURED RUM.
@@StevetheBarmanUK yes I got it. Am on keto diet that's why I said that.. i shouldnt even be drinking but on my cheat days I will choose wisely:)
Thanks good info, I am trying to take in less sugar so this is very helpful 👍👍👻
Thanks for watching Nick!
Thanks Steve, very informative. After 2 years + of rolled over holidays, we hopefully will be travelling to Jamaica 🇯🇲 soon. We intend to drink lots of rum and get involved with in a rum tasting day on the island. I love a dark and stormy, do you have any suggestions on what we should try? Many thanks 🙏
Yeah, I’ve done a few videos on this. Actually as dull as it sounds, if you’re going to Jamaica, Myers for a D&S. or Worthy 109. Dark/Black Rums suit me better with Ginger. BUT. Neat…Appletons 8,12,25. Worthy Single Barrel, ANY Hampdens. Just try it all. 😂
What an amazing rum collection in the background
Thanks, It grows by 2-5 every week!
Never had rum outside of a hurricane, but gotta love the enthusiasm
Most Rum experts I know are unable to make sensible videos due to be unable to stand up.
So well done!
Myself, I enjoy Calvados and Laphroaig and despite speaking French, German, Norweigan, am still unable to produce a coherent video for other speakers of known languages.
The most insidious drinks are cocktails.
These paralyse the body from the waist down, so, whilst being able to conduct witty, amusing conversations with others, attempts to reach the Gentlemen's room or leave the table with dignity are fraught with embarrassment.
I now comply with my Doctor's advice to keep to four glasses of red wine per day.
She hasn't seen my verre a vin grand.
Hey steve,.fabulous video,.btw, what kind of drink is DON PAPA for ya?? Spiced one? Did u try Remedy spiced rum,.Remedy elixir?? I like it,..especially the elixir
Don Papa is something in Rum World that we all consider as Spiced/Flavoured. However, it's not really marketed liek that, so Newbs to Rum probably consider it Rum. And no...not had Remedy.
All news to me, nice one👍🏼
Hey steve love your videos! One question: any ideas on why the word RUM disappeared from the kraken label?
All the best! Keep uploading!
Good question! I hadn't noticed. In fact, I think i would've heard about that nugget if it had. Are you sure?!!?
I mean honestly, it is a "Rum Based Spirit Drink" not a Rum. But with clever wording, they can have Rum somewhere on the Labels.
Very interesting and informative video, although I was wondering is under proof rum considered a proper rum?
No, think I mentioned it in the Video early on. For it to be even considered Rum, it has to be 37.5% in the UK/EU and 40% abv in the US. There is no such thing as an Under Proof Rum. It either becomes a "Spirit Drink" or a Liqueur. To relate this into the Whisky World. Haig has just released an Orange Variant. Well this CAN'T be called Whisky. So it's simple a "Whisky based Spirit Drink".
Wow learned something new! That’s a ton of sugar! I personally like the captains black spiced rum. The taste of it is enjoyable and on more relaxed days, I like to add some to my coffee.
Nice explanation! I am still a novice, but my favorites are Appleton Estate 12, anything Foursquare (for some reason, the only bottle I can reliably find near me is The Real McCoy 12), and on occasion-if I can stomach the sweetness-El Dorado 12/15 or Rhum Barbancourt 15.
I was thinking of getting something inexpensive and easy to find like Pussers or Angostura 7 and spicing it myself as a side project. Any thoughts or tips on that?
Come into the Discord, people will chat all day about that!! stblive.uk/discord 👍
Spiced rum is an old thing here in Canada. Spiced rum, ginger ale and lime...Castro. Delicious. Bumbu is my fave. Just finished a bottle.
Plantation OFTD is my go to. I love it. Along with Mount Gay Black Barrel as my top 2 picks
What a Rum that is!! the OFTD. Although confession... MGBB... i've never had i don't think. Perhaps my perception of Eclipse has stopped me from trying it!
Thanks for this. I've always found spiced rums a bit on the candy store flavour side of things. Nice to know how to identify them from each other. Cheers 👍😀
Thanks for watching John. Glad I helped.
I like Sailor Jerry's 92 proof spiced rum. Rather alarmed that according to your comments. is not truly rum, but won't stop my buying it.
@@jeromebreeding3302 I have a bottle of the Sailor Jerry Spiced 80 proof that's been sitting around for years unopened. It just seems to get pushed aside as other Rum and Spirits make their way.
@@johndavis7944 Never have seen Sailor Jerry 80 proof, always 92 proof. It's a winner in my book.
@@jeromebreeding3302 Maybe it's just for the Australian 🇦🇺 market. Specialist whiskey sellers have all sorts of proofs not usually seem on the regular grog seller's lists.
Excellent video, very informative, clear and concise. The only question I have relates to a comment you made. You said, "spiced rum needs proper rum, in the same way proper rum needs spiced rum". Whilst I understand the fact that spiced rum needs proper rum, I don't see how proper rum in any way needs spiced rum? Keep up the good work. 👍
Ha, soz, yeah I didn't make that Clear. Now this is just my viewpoint... but one shared by many...MANY...people as well. While some Rum Distilleries claim "they're doing okay" of course, the vast majority actually sell Rum for other people to Buy up and blend. For example, take Worthy Park who only just recently have released their own label Rums. For the bulk of their life span, other Rum/Spiced Rum brands will have been buying up their aged stuff. So for the vast majority of these Rum Distilleries to keep making a decent money and grow, they obviously need more and more Rum Brands to buy up their Rum. Step forward Spiced Rum. Because with the exception of maybe 10-12 UK Brands...all the other 400+ Spiced Rum brands (which will grow HUGELY over the next 1-2 years) will be buying Rum from Distilleries all over the Caribbean and beyond.
So the simple fact is, proper Rum distilleries need all these other Brands to buy their stuff to survive. Granted, Foursquare, Appleton and the like don't. But they are the lucky few. Take DDL... Demerara Distillers Ltd. Essentially El Dorado Rum. I read somewhere that only 10% of their Business is actually from El Dorado. The other 90% of their Rum is bought up by other Rum Brands. And I can name 7 BIG Spiced/Flavoured Rum brands in the UK alone that use DDL Rum as the base of their Spiced Rum.
Thats without looking a the likes of Plantation Rum who will have single handily kept some Rum Distillers afloat over the last few years. Okay...that is another Rum Brand. Not Spiced. BUT. Rum Geeks hate on Plantation. But the fact is, Plantation puts a shed load of money back into the Rum economy and help smaller Rum Distillers make a living!
This is what people don't see. they don't see all the "Contract Distilling" I guess you'd call it that goes on behind the scenes. Just putting Barbados & Jamaica together, you have 9 Rum Distilleries I think it is. But the vast majority of people will maybe have only heard of 4-5. Maybe less. Yet, all us Spiced Rum fans will have tasted most of the Rum from all 9 Distilleries in some shape of form!
Hope that helps.
@@StevetheBarmanUK That helps hugely and your logic makes a lot of sense to me. Spiced Rum is clearly the flavour of the day just now, so if Spiced Rum is what it takes to ensure that "proper rum" survives at sensible prices, then it gets my vote.
great video
Thanks for watching 👍
Huge fan of the Ron Zacapa 23. So very easy to drink. Not sure where it sits in the sugar levels but it’s sweet without being overly so
Ha. And after looking it up it’s got about 25grams per litre. So clearly on the sweet side
Ha. Yeah. And it’s obvs not a 23yo Rum either. No where close cos it’s Solera!! There’s a Law Suit currently going on against them and Diageo. So you could see it rebranded soon (maybe and properly as a 6 month old Rum Based Spirit Drink). And hopefully a huge price drop cos it ain’t worth even close to what it sells for. But that’s Marketing. 😉
Politics aside though. Just liquid. Look it’s okay. Very much in the Don Papa category. Heavily sweetened. I enjoy a cheeky one every now and again. And actually I would say it was an entry point to real Rum. But just be prepared for less sweet stuff if you go down that route. I’d have a lot more respect for it, if it was £20-£25 a bottle and was honest about what it was. Cos it isn’t Rum. But if it went in the Spiced/Flavoured category…it’s a Banger.
(And just for Ref…Don Papa is pretty much the same, but the likes of Waitrose and M&S DO sell it as Spiced/Flavoured. Like Bumbu. They know it’s not Rum). 👍👍
@@StevetheBarmanUK thanks for the reply. Yeah. Bit disappointed to find out more about it the more I have been digging into it.
But then if it means a price drop then perhaps the disappointment is worth it 🤷♂️😉
@@StevetheBarmanUK what would you recommend as a taster for entry level rum that is on the sweeter side?
Granted won’t be at same level of sweetness as the Zacapa but kind of close ? 🤷♂️
For mixing drinks I would mix a spiced rum like Kraken with a rum like Appleton. But I need to find an Appleton in my country, it looks like they no longer ship here.
Great details and information. Funny enough the North American Kraken(the 47abv) is listed (as per Kraken) at 19g of sugar per 1000ml. So different regions different stuff in the bottle, which may have some contributing factor to the global views / opinons. Personally I love them all as well and when used in a cocktail the flavour and sugar content needs to be thought about to get the desired balance.
Yeah, see i can't find the UK figures... but ours is 40% and i wouldn't mind betting you a lot sweeter for the UK market...or at least a lot more Sugar.
Wow, amazed that spiced rum is such a 'new' trend in the U.K., it's been a thing for a good 20 years over here in Canada. Mostly on the holidays especially Thanksgiving, and Christmas in spiced rum eggnoggs.Great comparison of what 'Rum' is and is not, though!
Well, it's not "new". Don't forget the UK was very first with Spiced Rum... Capt Morgs Spiced waaaaaaay back in the day. We've always had tonnes of Spiced. Waaaaay more than you Canadians. 😉😂 ( I know that cos of the Canadians in my Discord....still pee's me off that you pay half the price though, so you lot win that battle!). Like even 5+ years ago, we had 40-50 readily available. However, NOW... we're closed to 500+ Spiced Rums in the UK. Like proper Brands. Not people at home. So that's what I mean by "New Trend". Purely something that's in a massive growth phase! But, we're also getting LOADS of Spirit Drinks and Flavoureds now. Thats why the line is getting blurry. Bit of a minefield!
Wait a year and Brits will be claiming they invented and gave Spiced Rum to the world.
Interesting video as for the first time one can spot the levels of sugar & I have to say it is pretty scary (another interesting comparison could be showing the equivalent of those sugar amounts in popular sodas, mind you ! ), so kudos for that. 👍 I'm new to your channel & I'm sure you've already covered that, but for a meant to be popular (FAQ wise) or vastly seen short video (it is the only slight criticism I'll do here if you permit me) , shouldn't it be precised here as well that the other main difference between rums & spiced rum is also the addition of spices, botanicals, fruits, etc...? Or do I mistake in that ? Besides, I have to say as I'm more & more interested in sipping rums rather than casual drinking or in cocktails rums (even if I might still do from time to time), I tend nowadays to be more picky selecting rums to purchase for me regarding sugar level, caramel colouring, cask types used, wood allowed additives, chill filtration & levels of toasting/charring when disclosed...I have to say (even if it is way from perfection regarding whisky) it is not easy ! Cheers from France....
I first found rum when I went to the Dominican 20 odd years ago!
There was also a rum they had that was so high % it was not allowed on flight home.
I've been telling people in the pub for years, brilliant. Morgan spiced gold 35% doesn't even say Rum on the bottle. Nice one Steve
Haha, yeah. I mean, Capt Morgs... we ALL grew up on it. it's a great entry to "Rum" but it is really waaaay down as the first rung of the ladder!
Hey, good stuff there. Things good to know when you're setting off on your rum voyage;) one thing I was curious about. Have you, guys, heard of Old Monk Rum Very Old Vatted? My absolute favourite for its flavours and mildness. Yet, it doesn't seem to get much publicity or even be known well enough around the globe
Wow, there's a blast from the past. Not seen that in YEARS. Indian I think it was. Just looked on Master of Malt, 4 listed...3 out of stock. the only one in stock is the legend. But no telling how old that is. Wholesalers have to by by the case, so 6 bottles could last them 2-3 years at least, if it's not popular.
@@StevetheBarmanUK Indian, indeed, and an absolute corker too. Now I feel lucky I can get my hands on a couple of bottles
Fantastic video, Steve. I really appreciate the fact that you weren't pushing an agenda of "spiced rums bad"
Thanks!! I’ll admit my palate is changing massively every week…becoming less Sweet. BUT I still love my Spiced and Flavoured. They’re fun, you can’t deny that.
Very interesting video! Are these rules the same in Canada and the US? I can find mention of sugar content but not the flavored aspect. Also, I found a master rum list on the internet, and it says that El Dorado 12 has anywhere from 35-39g of sugar. Unless the list is wrong. What surprises is me is under Smugglers Cove category ranking it would fall under 3 as far as I can tell. Which to me classifies it as a rum. Which contradicts it not being a rum due to sweetness. I'm new to all this so correct me anywhere I'm mistaken. I'm glad if found your channel! Definitely subscribed! Cheers from Canada!
So...while they go under the Radar, yeah, as Europe and the UK are one of the biggest Markets for Rum, they tend to set the laws... producers work towards these, as its pointless them creating 2 different Rums. However, while they are "laws" there is no one to enforce them really. Hence why the Old El Dorado 12 and the likes of Diplomatico etc have 40g of Sugar. However, many many Brands are working towards less Sugar. For example, take El Dorado 12 yo... if you have a bottle with the Black round label on the neck of the bottle, that is new El Dorado, no official figures out there, some say unsweetened, some say 8-10g of sugar. The old Red Labels from pre 2018, where near 40g. Now certain countries are working really hard to get this sorted. For example, Jamaican Rum has ZERO Sugar added. However, if it is a Jamaican Rum, but then blended in the UK or in Holland (Massive blenders for Rum), then there's a chance some sugar may be added. Barbados are also working hard on this. 3 of the big 4 distilleries are Zero Sugar. However WIRD who produce a lot of Rum for other brands...and Plantation part owns them... they are not playing ball, cos Plantation adds dosage/sugar.
Basically, i didn't make the video to be all preachy. that wasn't the point. I merely wanted to showcase that Proper Rums have little to no sugar... where as the majority of Spiced Rums will have A LOT of Sugar. Nothing wrong with it...only when people compare them. Comparing Spiced to Rum is like comparing Maple Syrup to Honey! Its hard for other countries to understand this...mainly cos in the UK, it's Spiced Rum thats exploding like no other country. We're well over 500 Spiced Rums now. But i know in Canada, you have a dozen if you're lucky. So the SPiced rum lovers think that Kraken and DMF are no different to Plantation or El Dorado...where in fact they are MILES apart!
Very informative video, and appreciated too! I had no idea about the EU regulations on what can be called what. I personally appreciate both, each has their place and are amazing 😊
Cheers for watching Ben. Happy NY
Don't know if it's still there but in the 80s working out of Arbroath there was a bar with a selection like your background and double shelves stacked with'rum' bottles all around the walls.Used to drink Pussers&water...Lots of..Happy daze!!!
Haha, yeah, I'd love a Bar like that locally. I mean its nice to have them at home. But it'd be great to get stuck in Sat at a Bar making new friends!
Good to see you’ve Flor de Caña on your shelf
Yeah love it. Which one is your Favourite??
@@StevetheBarmanUK used to buy the 10 year old dark for $2 a quart down in Honduras. So smooth.
What are the brands that use 200g of sugar per liter? You brought up a solid question I wish you would have answered.
Very good information, very helpful, i like Diplomático aged, the one in the green bottle, is that one considered spiced rum or rum? It tastes similar to spiced rum but it doesn,t say on the label,
The Reserva?? Yeah it’s technically NOT Rum cos of the Sugar levels, but for all intensive purposes, yeah, treat it as Rum…just a sweet one.
Some useless info when I was a young soldier we used to get tea laced with Rum on Christmas day ,
And I have been to the Appleton distillery in Jamaica, very nice
Thanks for the very informative vid Steve. Reminds me of OU videos without the outdated clothes 😛
I'll take that as a compliment...even though I have no idea what OU means! 😂
@@StevetheBarmanUK Open University 😋
This is a very interesting and informative video. Man Up Rum contains no colourants, flavourants, sugars, glycerine, caramel or any other obscuration and we have shown that real (unadulterated) rum does not need help.
Sugars are added to round off flavours, to break the "bite" of certain spices added to spiced rums and gins, to make it palatable. Many spiced liquors would be barely drinkable without the added sugars.
Thanks for sharing! Intriguing Rum! If it ever makes its way to the UK, give me a shout!
Useful video. I wonder if the stuff I've tried was spiced rum... it was sickeningly sweet to me.
Steve, I am very new to rum and really enjoyed your video! I found it very helpful. I have a few questions, and also a comment.
-How old is spiced rum? I mean, when did rum-makers start to add spices like cinnamon, cloves, and so on?
-about the grams of sugar per liter, I didn't understand if this was added sugar, or if this sugar was kind of a measurement of part of the original sugarcane byproduct that was fermented. (This is obviously a *very* newbie question, and I hope you will understand what I mean!)
About the spiced rum not being real rum bit, though, I guess as a Canadian, I kind of come at it from a different point of view. Rum has been made in the Caribbean for centuries, long before the EU came to exist. And each of the countries in the Caribbean makes their own laws about what rum can be. I'm guessing that most of them don't have the same law as the EU law that says rum cannot be flavoured or spiced. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!
That said, I found your sugar glasses very helpful.
And now a bit of my own beginning in rum. My first rum ever was Kraken Spiced Black Rum (47% here in Canada). I loved it! Then I tried Havanna Club Smoky rum; it took some getting used to, but I think it will take me a very, very long time to work my way through that bottle...maybe years. (It's not the smoke that's the problem, as I love Islay whiskies like Laphroaig Triple Wood. It's just really intense, and maybe reminds me too much of grapes somehow.)
Then I tried a tiny sample bottle of Captain Morgan rum (not spiced). It was kind of "meh" for me.
Then I tried Bumbu, and loved it.
And then I went out on a limb and spent about $45 CAD + tax on a St. James Agricole Rum made with pure cane sugar or some such thing. It's from Martinique. I thought, "well, the best wine I've ever had was French, the best Caesar salad that I had was in Paris, and I recently ate a burger and fries at a French restaurant in Vancouver, and thought I was in heaven! So I will try this rum from a former French colony." You can probably guess what happened: it tasted so bad that I don't even want to get used to the taste of it. It's not sweet enough for me, and the flavour is just extremely strange. I don't know what to do with it now.
But the thing is, I *want* to like authentic, "pure" rum. But this one just didn't do it for me.
For the future, I want to try rums or spiced rums that remind me of dark brown sugar and very strong vanilla, and ginger, cinnamon, and cloves. If you have any recommendations, please let me know, if this comment hasn't taken up too much of your time already! Thank you in advance for your consideration!
Hey Nathan, right I'll try and answer these concisely for you in turn...
How old is Spiced Rum?
No set answer. I won't mention any names. BUT. Some bigger brands will literally be a few days old. Purely mass-produced unaged rum, flavoured and colour...cos obviously without ageing, it'll be white. I'm sure you can imagine which brands I'm talking about.
However, SOME Spiced Rums from top Brands...Chairmans for example...Chairmans reserve is their normal Rum, (which is a blend of rums including 5yo Rum) BUT then to get the spices and flavours, the Spiced Rum is aged for another 6 months with REAL spices. NO artificial stuff.
Grams of Sugar per litre...
This refers to sugar added AFTER distillation. Obviously, when you distill something, there is no sugar in that distillate, you are just condensating Vapour in basic terms.
When it comes to Rum Laws...
Yeah, you're kind of on the right lines. But i think the one thing you miss is that EU Law (which is actually VERY similar to US law - except Rum is US must be 40% / 80 Proof) refers to ALL RUM. Not Rum made in the EU. It doesn't matter where the Rum is Made. So bearing in mind, the UK is one of...if not THE BIGGEST... Rum Market in the World...All Rum made in the Caribbean/Africa/US/Australia etc will conform to EU Law. The majority of it though will be 40%, not 37.5% as they will want to conform to US Law too. It's only super massive brands like Capt Morgs and Kraken that have the finance to make different Rums for different markets. US Capt Morgs is 40%, UK is 37.5%. US Kraken is 47%, UK is 40%. NOW, the issues come where as you rightly state, each Island in the Caribbean is trying to have their own GI. Barbados is leading the way with this. They want ALL Barbados Rum for example to contain ZERO Sugar added. Which is absolutely fine. Brilliant. It doesn't affect EU/US laws, it's just a GI. NOW the issue they have is Brands like Plantation Rum come in, buy Barbados Rum, then add Sugar to it. This is where the Hate of Plantation comes from. (Personally I love what they do) but what Barbados are working towards is no added sugar... but for example; WIRD supplies a lot of Rum to Plantation, who simply won't stop selling "Barbados Rum". So there's lots of negotiations to be added. BUT this is purely GI...NOT LAW. So don't confuse the 2 things. GI is completely different. it's purely providence relating to a certain place. Barbados wants to get to a point where EVERY Bottle of Barbados Rum you ever see around the world, you'll know is Zero Sugar added. But it will take a VERY LONG time to get to that point!
Now the point about Agricole Rhum;
Agricole is a VERY different beast. Again with its own GI. Agricole (Rhum...French Style) is distilled from Sugar Cane Juice. Not Molasses like a lot of Spanish (Ron...eg Cuba) & English (Rum...eg Jamaica, Barbados, Guyana). So French style which is loved by many, will be reminiscent of Brazilian Cachaca. VERY Grassy. To many of us though, while we don't really like Agricole Rhum Neat... it's an unbelievable addition to some Rum Cocktails. So don't right it off. A touch of Agricole in a Mai Tai is next level.
Future Rums...
I note from your Comment, you're actually probably more in a Spiced Camp, not "Proper Rum". That also rings true with some of your other comments, and what this whole video is about. If you love that Vanilla, Cinnamon, Clove notes, then obviously you're not going to like Agricole...or many Proper Rums. As I said, Bumbu is far from being a Proper Rum. It's a heavily sweetened "Spiced Rum". So my only advice would be to stick to Spiced Rums. I know Canada is way behind us in the UK, so I can't offer recommendations other than Chairmans which I know you can get. BUT, if you do want to try proper REAL Rums with that "Dark Brown Sugar" notes, then you will need to stick to Molasses based Rums....so predominately English Style. I personally would start you off with Guyana and El Dorado, as they are Demerara based Rums. th 12yo is lovely. But be warned...VERY different to Spiced Rums. Nowhere near as sweet. But Guyana would be the most accessible for your palate. From there, maybe move up to Trinidad, Central America. see how you go with them. THEN maybe attack Barbados & Jamaica because they are very Different. Jamaican Funk for example is a whole other beast.
Hope that helps!
@@StevetheBarmanUK Hi Steve! Thank you very much for your very helpful and thorough answer! I appreciate your recommendations for me, too, as well as your answering my question regarding added sugar. Also, now I understand the whole "spiced rum is not rum" thing.
I still have one question: when I asked how old spiced rum is, what I meant was when in history did rum-makers start to add spice to their rums? I feel like it should be a very old tradition, but am wondering if it is a sort of newfangled thing. In any case, I quite like it. :-) Having said that, I appreciated learning about the age of rums in your explanation. :-)
Finally, a quick question: what does "GI" mean?
@@nathanb.5792 It seems to me, since you also prefer the sweeter liquors, that you should probably try out bourbon whiskey and some of the sweeter scotch whiskeys. They are not spiced, a lot of them have sweet flavours of caramel, vanilla, cinnamon and banana embedded into them naturally, while also having the strong general taste of whiskey.
I used to only drink spiced rums like Kraken and Bacardi Spiced, but after knowing they're not rums at all and the fact that I didn't like the *actual* taste of rum, I moved on to sweet whiskeys like Four Roses or Three Lions. So for you, I would recommend Four Roses. I've also read that Evan Williams and Tullamore Dew have naturally sweet cinnamon and vanilla notes in them.
Very informative about rum regulations and the sugar levels of spiced rum. Why is there no mention of what spices and flavourings are added. I know that vanilla is commonly added but what spices or spice extracts are used?
It can be literally anything. That’s why I’m the UK there’s sooooo many brands. Cos they’re 100s of different spices and flavours. Literally 100s.
Thanks Steve, enjoyed that. Sounds like Spiced Rums are the proper rum's wilder cousins. Where would you say Blackstrap Rums fall? I just tried one for the first time and enjoyed it.
It depends. Blackstrap Rums are just from Blackstrap Molasses. I can't name too many Brands. BUT... I can guarantee, Some WILL have Sugar added, and some WON'T. but without researching no idea which brands!
(just starting out the video) In my mind Spiced Rum is to Rum as Schnapps is to Whiskey.
I've only just recently discovered that I like Kraken, after a lifetime of there not being any hard liqours I enjoy drinkin neat. For some reason drinking rum neat never occured to me, I always just saw it as an ingredient in rum & coke. I now have a bottle of Diplomatico in the cabinet that I haven't tried yet. I look forward to trying different kinds. I suspect I'll prefer the spiced rums as I have a sweet tooth, but want to give the traditionals a fair try.
One of the reasons why I think I like Captain Morgan's spiced rum is because of the lower sugar compared to other spiced rums. Pretty sure it fits in the normal rum metric of 20g of sugar per litre, if not going just slightly over it. It's just under 1g per 45ml
Capt Morgs is most of our Entry points to Rum, I can't deny that. And yeah, you're right about Sugar Levels, the normal Spiced is circa 15g per litre and the Black is 20g per litre. The only problem is the normal Spiced is just 35% ABV and is pretty meh in taste. There's just nothing going on with it...not even "Rum" taste, which does make it a great entry point. We don't get the Black in the UK, but i do hear good things about it.
It is all in the application of the booze so I want to know will it be consumed alone or mixed into a cocktail of some sort? I can enjoy sipping on straight rum or spiced rum while if I am going to be mixing it then one or the other could he a better choice depending on the ingredients to be used.
Thank you I did not know. I am here across the pond and I am an Irishman that usually only drinks TILLAMORE DEW but I have wondered about spiced rum since my wife likes it. So now that you have explained it I will stay with my homelands whiskey and leave the foo foo drinks to the ladies
Hahaha. Well at least try proper Rum, you’ll love it!!!
Did you mean Tullamore dew?
Captain Morgan is the best rum of them all!
Steve... please tell me you have tried the Ratu 8year Signature Blend Rum Liqueur. It's like rich chocolate!!! I have a Black Forrest recipe if you're up for it!
Never heard of it. Will Google laters 👍
I’m more of a Bacardi superior and coke guy, however wife and I will also drink spiced rum, I definitely need to venture out and try other rums, one of them that’s on my list is diplomatico, and thoughts or suggestions??
Appleton Estate 8 yr
If you're moving from spiced rum to rum, consider a ti' punch: rum (classically agricole), served with a couple wedges of lime and a bottle of simple syrup. The rule is "every man makes his own death", meaning it's up to the drinker to add the syrup and lime to taste; a good guideline is a teaspoon of simple and a squeeze of lime for two ounces (55cL) of rum, but if you like it sweeter, no shade. Maybe that's how you'll fall in love with a rum.
Yeah good shout. It’s deffo how I started with Agricole at least.
I’m in the plantation rum camp (big Barbancourt fan). But Kraken is fun.
If you can get it in the UK, I would love to see your opinion of a local North Carolina Rum. Muddy River distillery, in Belmont NC makes some of the best I have tried, I think their Queen Charlotte variety is better than Appleton. They do produce a spiced Rum, but instead of using a low quality batch, as some distillers do, they use their best aged Rum as the base, and blend that with Root Beer spices.
Not heard of it. But will keep an eye out. Thank you 🙏
Think I have just found my new favourite spiced rum it's called Bullion and comes in a gold coloured bottle 👌
I am in love with aged Rums, by gifting Abuelo XII Two Oaks i also shared my passion with friend and my next gift is Abuelo XV cask finish triple set :)
My fav was Dictador XO Perpetual.
I am too sweet myself to drink spiced rums, somehow they do not stick to me. But in drink from time to time... why not!
Rum is fun. Words to live by.
Hi Steve, I'm wondering is the sugar they use just white sugar? Or can they use any type of sugar in rum? I thi k spiced rum can be any, kit from ninefolds if I'm not mistaken uses golden syrup.
Hey John-Lee... yeah thats another thing i didn't delve down to be honest as I wanted to keep that video concise as possible. If I was a betting man, I'd say less than 5% actually used White granulated sugar as a Syrup... and even then I'm only talking about the Cheaper UK Brands. it was just a visual, less messy, indicator to use on screen. You certainly wouldn't get the quality Rum Producers using it. A lot will use proper Sugar Cane Syrup... So not refined Sugar like the White stuff in my video (or homemade Simple Syrup). That'll be at the very least, 75% of the Proper Rum brands. But Probably maybe even up in the high 90%. You will get a few that use Molasses...or Treacle. Espesh Demerara Rums. Then as you rightly say, yeah I have read that Kit uses Golden Syrup. I know of 2 brands that use Honey... and another Brand that actually uses Agave.
HOWEVER, As far as i understand it, the Law only says "sweetener". I don't think it actually clarifies what that Sweetener can be. But I'm not 100% on that. I may have missed that. For example, this is where it gets sketchy, While I know that 2 brands use Honey...I don't know whether that actually ceases to become Rum, even if it's under 20g/l. Simply because... and this would deffo go for Kit too... Honey, Agave and Golden Syrup WILL be a "flavour". And I know for a Fact you can not add Flavour. So from then, it ceases to be known as a Rum, and is a "Rum based Spirit Drink". So I'm not 100% sure how/if they get away with that. Because the only sweetener that will not impart flavour is proper Sugar Cane Syrup, or the Demerara/Molasses. That is as far as my knowledge goes on that subject I'm afraid.
I mean it's tough, cos at a base level, I don't really care. If it tastes good, Job Done. BUT, at some level, to appreciate the skill and labour of love involved, we do need to be protective of the Proper Rums. This is why there needs to be a GI. Cos we do need to know the difference if its a Rum, or a Spirit Drink. At least we know then what we're drinking, and what other similar Brands will appeal to us.
@@StevetheBarmanUK brilliant reply Steve 👏 like you 8 agree if it tastes good and you buy another bottle then what does it matter what they use. I feel for some rums though they have a metallic taste to them and I find it hard to get past it to find other flavours. Rum is the next gin 🙂
I have to explain to my friends that Fireball is as much Whiskey as Spiced Rum is Rum. That's usually what gets them to understand.
Great video Steve. Love plantation but also love dead mans fingers in contrast. Think we have more spiced rums on our bar but can’t beat a solid “real rum”
Yup... I love it all. Just trying to help newbies who don't really know the difference and expect real rum to be like Spiced Rum... which happens waaaaaay too often!
@@StevetheBarmanUK I didn’t realise the maximum for rum is 20g. Great informative video.
Kraken is the absolute best dark “rum” I’ve ever had. Hands fown
And here you learned it is neither truly dark (being colored, not aged) nor rum!
Wish I saw this before. I love Diplomatico Rum, first rum I ever bought and ever tried. Bought a captain Morgan to try a different rum(I am a whiskey kinda guy). Absolutely could not finish Captain Morgan. Tasted awful. Gave it to a friend who loves spiced rum.