1984 Audi 5000 S | Retro Review
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- The ultra sleek wind cheating design of the 3rd gen Audi 5000 was an understated milestone for large sedans, and its influence can be seen in the later produced 1986 Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable.
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60 minutes did Audi dirty.
Media does everything dirty.
I think audi did to themselves
Mainstream media lol
They saw a competent foreign car enter the American market and said "hold up"
@@justindake Well I wasn't alive at that time but from what I can gather it seems audi attacked the US market full swing with quattro, their 5 cylinders, proudly stating their cars had galvanized shells and then their Motorsport success. The domination of the 100 Quattro race car and Quattro rally cars really put them on the map and helped them make a name for themselves.
A blueprint for so many modern cars
I see lots of prototype Lexus LS400 in it
I bought a used 1984 5000 S in 1987. It was red with gray leather, automatic, and low mileage. Thanks to 60 Minutes, I paid about $6000 for it. It was a pleasure to drive.
Such a handsome and appealing car. I love it in that brown metallic paint. Very 1980s!
Not the same color, nevertheless the combo is great :))
0:42 check out the jacket, pants, shoes !
.....I always had teorized that cars with twin square/rectangular headlight are usually inclined to be percieved more ''hamdsome'' compared to other shapes, by men with enough testosterone......I think it is due to the many 90 degree angles.
The US bumper sort of ruins it for me at least. Although i prefer the double glassed head lights.
Euro bumpers and US head lights would be perfect combo.
This was the coolest car when I was a kid in middle school.
My dad got a 5000 CS Turbo Quattro in 87 just before I turned 4. It was a wonderful car which I learned to drive a manual in and well drive in around our property starting at 14 and took my driver's license test in. I drove it as my car for several months before getting a Saab Convertible but I always loved jumping in the Audi especially because we lived in northern Nevada at the time and it was the perfect car to take skiing at Lake Tahoe!!
CS quattro was a much improved car. Bigger 2.2 with a turbo made it much quicker on the highway and much more luxurious than early 5000’s , I had a few myself in late 80’s
@tonychavez2083 yup, if I remember right the CS Turbo Quattro was about a ⅓ more expensive than the standard 5000. I still have the window sticker for my dad's and it was around $32,000. They were such amazing cars. My best friend's dad got a 87 Mercedes E 300TD at the same time. That car was really nice and that diesel kept running though him and his 3 kids driving it but it wasn't the car the CS was! I recently saw a nice looking 200 20v Quattro for sale not far from me in Maryland in the same Tornado Red as my dad's except a tan interior instead of black. I was really tempted 😕
@@hitchedtohorsepower correct they were not inexpensive, those models only went to well to do families 😉 you should buy that 200 if your able. Those cars are only getting rarer and harder to find.
@tonychavez2083 my dad worked for UPS as a tractor trailer driver but bought and sold houses on the side. He made a ton of money on one house and decided to treat himself to a Quattro. Originally his was going to go with a 911 but my mom said that wasn't a good family car but anyway. He was at the dealer picking up the Audi and it was sitting on the showroom floor. My dad was there in his UPS uniform and there was a guy there with his son. The son was running around the red Quattro saying daddy daddy buy this one! The dad said that's a Quattro I can't afford it. Shortly later that guy came over to my dad to introduce himself because he was head of UPS loss prevention for the Mid-Atlantic. He asked my dad if he was getting a car and he said yes that red one your son is looking at. The guy could have asked how a driver could afford that car and my dad would have told him but instead he had my dad followed for the next 6 weeks or so to see what he was stealing from UPS haha. I wish I had gotten that 200 but I was out of town when I saw the listing and when I got home it was already sold 😫. I have a V8 Quattro that despite being a very low mileage California/ Nevada car it's been nothing but problems. Mostly the hydraulic system that the 5000/200s don't have but considering I'm about to junk that car I'm not sure I want to jump into another 30+ year old Audi. I did find a beautiful 03 Saab 9-3 Convertible with less than 60k miles and never seen snow that I'm considering getting. I drove the 5000 CS for the first several months I had my license but then my dad got me a 97 900 Convertible. So I have a sentimental attachment to both cars at the Saab being much newer it will hopefully be leee of a pain to keep going 🫰🫰
Ferris Bueller's dad had one.
The Masters Estate had one that Magnum P.I. sometimes drove when the Ferrari was taken away from him.
@@jeffrobodine8579 Oh yeah. They had at least two Audis over the years.
And his mom had a Chrysler wagon 😊
@@jeffrobodine8579Higgi baby even crashed it once flipping it!
Audi 5000S is best german car from 1980s. Dad of Ferris Bueler is have one
My Dad was a diehard GM fan until one too many were lemons. He bought a 1986 Audi 5000S and it was a tank that lasted almost 20 years... compared to the 2-4 years of each piece of GM garbage before that.
Which I guess GM/FoMoCo/MoPar realized, and after one fateful phone call to 60 Minutes...
My dad bought a 1985 5000 S in silver with gray leather (brand new). When the 60 Minutes story hit not long after that, he received a $5000 rebate from Audi, so he sold the silver 5000 S and bought a bright red 1987 5000 S with gray velour. The '87 had 30 more horsepower but otherwise they drove very similar to each other.
Man i wish i could go back to 80's
Good retro review of a car that was ahead of its time. I had an 88 5000CS turbo Quattro, that I drove for over 100,000 miles. Could have gone farther but Tropical Storm Allison drenched Houston and my car. Beautiful pearl white with matching 5 spoke aluminum factory wheels. Black leather alcantara interior, 5 speed with power everything. Quiet, smooth, fast. Very few problems
Oh Man!! You had the best model, best color. I still would want that car!! I had the model in this video.
I wish performance reviews still included the "passing time" metric. It's a relevant measure of acceleration not reflected by 0-60 and quarter mile times. I haven't seen that in forever. Not sure why it went away.
because it's harder for people to understand. Most people just want one simple metric for faster = better.
Great looking car.
Very beautiful and nice Audi 5000. What engine?
The mom on E.T drove a Audi 5000, I had a 1990 Audi 100 it had all the bells and whistles in it even a phone. It was a great car drove it for 5 years and traded it in.
This car was ahead of its time 😅
I've had the 84' 5000 S, 85' 5000 Turbo, 90' 100, but the best of all the 91' 200 TQ 20V!👌🏾
I've heard that the designers of the 1986 Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable got their inspiration from the Audi 5000 because of it's aerodynamics.
My sister got one of these in the first year. What an amazing car, quiet and secure and handsome.
0:33 ''....more car for dollar....''
now in 2023, I'm battling against ''....more dollar for car....''
:))) (laughing out of frustration)
My dream car when I was 9 in 84
Ah back in the days when A.U.D.I. drivers were not jerks, but well-mannered, classy people.
if a middle east guy cant afford a used bmw they buy a used audi.. then become jurks
@@sandiegoavgeek6Audi is in Latin, Horch is in German.
Watching this, is a blast from the past. Sunday mornings in the 80's watching a local TV show called Album in review . Shown on Saint Ambrose college cable tv station. Then switch the PBS to Motorweek and next the McLaughlin Group. A Hour and half of pure Sunday morning joy. Bye Bye !
Glad this was a balanced review. Pre-60 Minutes hit job. Those of you who weren’t alive or old enough to remember: this car was a design and production revelation that rendered most cars, and in particular most competing sedans look antiquated by comparison- particularly every domestic sedan… until the Audi 5000 overtly-influenced First gen Taurus and Sable appeared… Tge design of this Audi forever changed sedan design. There was before this car. And then there was everyone else afterwards, left in the dust, trying to catch up or to become current.
I love how they say there is no manual override for the climate control fan speed, while showing the exact buttons that do just that...
I noticed that as well. I think he meant to say no manual control for air flow. It looks like you can only manually select defrost, not floor or vent.
Wow, that window-lifting technology is fascinating, not being in the door - seems like it would have been noisy inside the car, no?
What do you mean?
When I was a kid in the middle 80s my parents had a brand new Audi 5000. It was gray…
Handsome car. One of the best designs of the 80's.
Back when you wore a suit to go car shopping at an Audi dealer.
C3 Audi 100 was my child memory, this model was very common all around China
We had two of them , a sedan and a Avant or wagon ... Beautiful cars ..
I noticed that the Automatic Climate controls came straight from an Cadillac from that era.
It doesn't look like it now, but that thing was so futuristic-looking when it came out.
Even Swedish cars from the 1970's had disc brakes front and back. How could such a premium brand get away with having drums in the rear?
My 2012 Civic has drums in the rear. I am kind of embarassed to admit that.
@@Michael-fw5efI didn't realize the 2012 Civic came standard with drums 😮
Swedish were pioneers in safety technology. Ahead of everyone else at the time and till mid 90s really
Drum brakes work very well in the rear. Most braking is done in the front especially front wheel drive. Drums have a mechical advantage allowing lower pedal effort but the lack the ability to dissipateheat like a disc brake setup does. Most trucks use drum brakes in the rear it is not necessarily inferior
The CS turbo got 4 wheel disc. These were too slow for that.
You can see the wheels turning at Toyota when cars like this came out. Their response: just wait a few years
This was back when Audi was still tryna figure things out to get where they are today
Old cars, simple and good
Thats $48,000 base price of todays money.
Thank you John
I had a couple of these great car!
These were very nice cars. Loved them.
The all new Audi 5000s was the perfect car for America in 1984.
5:21 omg I don't know why but this cracked me up!
I had a VW Quantum 2.5 liter NA 5 Cylinder FWD . Fun car GF hated it .
The Quantum was a budget Audi and an underrated car.
A friend had one... a rarity to have the US model in Germany. Nice car.
Lovely car
❤ welcome 🤗
great car!
5:58 Audi used GM supplied climate control modules for the 83 5000 ( Cadillac)
E T brought me here
Mike: Mom can I back the car out
Mother: yes not to far out.
5:36 Come on! No Whammy! No Whammy Stop!
My friends and I would get a kick out of the “no bombs” confirmation light 😂
Great car if you're not one of those hillbilly drivers who don't maintain their car properly and "randomly accelerate" when being high.
Tbf most cars aren't that bad if you actually take even a little care of them. There was a lot of terrible garbage back then tho, base model cars were beyond pathetic even into the 2000s 😂
❤
One of the best most durable cars ever owned... 82 5k.. 5spd. Ridiculous reliability. Terrible electric
No electrical problems with ours except it would eat window switches now and again.
My dad bought a 1987 5000 S brand new. Within the first year of ownership, it left us stranded when we went out for dinner one night.
Warum hat man fast alle Autos mit diesen Scheinwerfern verunstaltet
how can he make 29mpg
5:54 looks suspiciously similar to the Cadillac Electronic Climate Control panel from the same era.
Looks sort of like a Ford Tarus.
When this generation 5000 first came out, with its modern, aerodynamic, and Teutonic appearance, it made every one of its competitors look boring by comparison.
In "License to Drive" the sister gets to use the parents Audi 😂 spoiled lil bish
HEY
I NEED SOME AIR
POINT THAT AIR AT ME
GO TO THE GLOVE COMPARTMENT
sighhhh....Welcome to the future, where people dream of living in the past. And with that said, I'm "Audi 5000."👊👊✌
1:43 I mean lol
1:52 they are wheels, not covers
we still love ya John :)
“Audi is very proud of their automatic climate control system…” that they borrowed from General Motors.😂 trash talk aside, Audi has been my favorite car brand since I was in elementary school (ca. 1980’s).
We had one, what a POS sorry, I think my parents used the lemon law on ours
This car is for responsible owners, not for rednecks.
What? I thought German cars were so reliable.
@@unitedcity_mc4421 Audis have never been reliable. Mercedes was the king of reliability, and BMW was not far behind depending on model. These days all German cars are basically garbage designed to break down after the warranty expires, which is why most people lease them.
Our Audi ended our family streak of GMs, which all were either lemon law'd or lasted just barely long enough to escape the lemon law. In contrast, the Audi was a tank and ran forever.
@@unitedcity_mc4421reliable? German? No way. The Mercs of this era were solid (“built like tanks”), but that’s different than reliable. The doors sounded like bank vaults. Everything built from high quality materials.
aerodynamics are no longer talked about. we've achieved gas mileage improvements in other ways. humorous.
We’ve gone backwards with MPG for ICE vehicles
lol its is a VW AP motor, even sound the same.
I had an 86 5000s it was a POS but I love and miss it
When someone says I’m Audi 5000 that means they’re takin off or leavin
Only 2900 lbs!
It just blows my mind what I thought once with a nice looking car back then, now looks horrendous and ugly today! My how times have changed! LOL
I wouldn't call it ugly, but definitely dated. The style did not age well and screams 80's.
I’m Audi 5000 G
Its like a fat accord
That Climate Control Head was ripped right out of a Cadillac.
Jumanji
It's all good until it explodes sitting on the red light awaiting the green light if you're lucky enough you get to escape 😉😉
It's not a Tesla. It's an Audi.
Come standard with automatic acceleration
thankfully the goofy FWD/longitudinal mount engine layout didn't last beyond the 80s, it was kind of the worst of both worlds. Serviceability was a tradeoff for weight distribution that only the Quattro system could help to balance.
Saab, Subaru and the Olds Toronado/Cadillac Eldorado/GMC Motorhome also used a longitudinal FWD layout. As did the Cord L29 and 810-812. Changing plugs on a transverse V6 can be a pain...
Huh? Audis still have longitudinal engines to this day
because they also sell Quattros, otherwise they'd have gone to transverse mounting decades ago. My point should have been clearer: as the other commenter pointed out other manufacturers have used the layout, but it's exceedingly rare@@AaronSmart.online. Not all Audis use it, and VWs even less so.
I've owned an A4 Avant (V6) it was slow but exceedingly well balanced. Great handling but I wouldn't want a FWD version, too much weight in front and the older cars like the one in this video had them set even further forward of the front wheels.
And in modern Audis with longitudinal mounting, they've had to move the engine so far back to fix the weight distribution issue that the serviceability is completely lost. It's like late 90s Camaros/Firebirds with the engine basically UNDER the windscreen...but worse.
Saab is out of business, Subaru has been AWD across their entire export range since 1986 (except for BRZ which isn't even a native Subaru platform,) and GM also did away with that arrangement in the 80s. @@catjudo1
@@MrTaxiRobsince 1996.
Sadly, the one with unintentional acceleration defect.
The defect was entirely with CBS / 60 Minutes. It was entirely fabricated.
Those were defective american drivers.
@@runoflife87 And defective reporting by 60 Minutes.
The "defect" was a slightly narrower footwell for the driver and pedals that were closer together than expected. Audi could have mentioned it to perspective buyers but I don't think they considered it a problem.
60 Minutes made it sound as if the cars were possessed. Like something out of Maximum Overdrive. It was possible for a driver to simultaneously smash down on the brake and accelerator and the engine won the fight. But it was no where near the problem the media made it out to be.
I've had a similar issue with the clutch and brake in my Corolla. So long as I don't wear boots it doesn't happen.
@@christopherconard2831 60 Minutes admitted their erroneous reporting, but not until 10 years later when Audi sales were in the toilet 🤔
GM climate control
This is your ride if you like random acceleration and driving to the mechanic everyday.
... "random acceleration" ...
Don't drink too much if you want to drive slowly.
This is your ride if you know how to drive properly and got tired of Lemon Law-ing all of your American cars.
@@mollari2261 aww. Butt hurt?
These cars were garbage mechanically, but the design was always amazing, especially once they got the Euro headlights in the 100/200 versions post 60 Minutes debacle.
Disagree emphatically. The Audi 5 cylinder is about as indestructible as it gets. A close friend drove an 85 5000S for the better part of 2 decades. Aside from a dead battery once, its reliability embarrassed my Honda.
Comfortable. Quick. Economical.
60 minutes is still the worst fake news show ever.
What nonsense!
The Audi 5000 was the biggest POS ever made. If you lived back then you know.
Great car back in 84-89
Even Motorweek mentioned it in later reviews. Not junk (POS as you put it), but Audi cars did develop a bit of a reputation for each having their own "quirks". A problem, usually small but noticeable, that could never really be taken care of. This would have been fine in a Chevy or Chrysler at half the price. Jaguar owners seemed to take it as a badge of honor. But for what they were charging and the owners expected it was unacceptable.
What exactly was wrong with it?
Except for the Quattro, this was the worst decade for Audi.
Should i buy this Audi 5000 S or a Chevrolet Celebrity?
Ugly federal headlights