Intel Core i7 vs Xeon "Which is Better?" - The Final Answer
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- Core i7 or Xeon - which should you get? Are Xeons only suitable for rendering, and are Core i7s only suitable for gaming? Watch to find out...
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"...$2400 12-core behemoth of a Xeon..."
2019 sends its regards...
Someone saw / sees you coming?! I got two E5-2667 v3 for so much less than $2400. EBay sells them for between $80/each to $250/each. 8 core at 3.2Ghz each.
8 cores is 48$
I just got 6/12 3.2ghz for 10$... Xeon rocks
@@dvy6660 enjoy your green pcb with dirty old ddr3
@KorinXploits LmAo no.. not compared to good DDR4
Xeon E3-1231 v3 is basically an i7 4770.
Just not overclockable and without an integrated graphics unit.
Costs 100$ less than the i7 and can even run cooler due to the missing GPU.
Thats a very nice thing for a gaming PC
So Shuold I get one if I wanna play All the games on ultra with a asus gtx 970? Or an intel core I5 ?
Up4lIFe
Get the Xeon because it features Hyperthreading and stuff.
Up4lIFe
If you don't plan on overclocking then yes, by all means.
P@r@m3d!© i7s have hyperthreading aswell
P@r@m3d!© can u recommend a good motherboard with the Xeon E3-1231 v3
Thanks for the good explanation.
I ran a server on a consumer grade Gigabyte non-ECC board 24/7/365 for 4 years without issue. Rebooted once a year for updates. So non-ECC systems can also work quite reliably
How many kilos of Coke do you think linus snorts daily?
luke saylor all of it
None. He prefers to inject marijuanas.
You guys don't get it ... he uses coke as a upper 20 minutes before shooting the video, then he smokes a joint, the downer, 5 minutes before shooting the video. What you watch is the final result ....
Yes
@@cubical2847 fuck i was just gonna comment that
One thing I've found is sometimes xeons can be found much cheaper than core series if you are buying a used cpu from a previous generation. I've built a couple of machines for friends using xeon cpus I got cheap when a company upgraded their fleet of servers and sold off the old stock. This type of situation is one of the only times I'd recommend getting a xeon for a consumer build.
Great video Linus, Very thorough and informative as always. Keep up the great work and keep the videos coming!!
Your voice is so smooth and nice to listen to! Thnx for explaining.
Luke sounds like he's depressed and held at gun point.
+Much Doge You must be a woman.
+Shorts 81
+Ethan The Ace nah your all wrong 18,802
Much Doge yeah i was just going to say that
Wait... He WASNT??
XEON>i7>i5> FX>i3>A10 >A8>Pentium>A6>A4>Celeron. . . for gaming with discrete gpu.
Depends on the cpu
For example and I7 5960x obliterates xeon
Btw an i7 and i5 will have a ~5 fps
+PyroRaider There are 18 core Xeons, you sure the 5960x beats Xeons outright?
+LiquidPanic Oh wow, i sure do love paying 3.6k $ on a cpu...
The i7 5960x is equal to the Xeon E5-2699 V3 in terms of performance. Now, i will admit the xeon has more cores, but who the fuck wants to pay an extra 2.6k on 8 extra cores ?
The i7 5960x is the winner between both
PyroRaider Lol, You actually think the 5960x matches the 2699 v3 in performance? Let's just take a look at this for a second, they are using the same architecture, so clock for clock, core for core, they'regoing to perform the same right. Here is a simple calculation, the 5960x has 8 cores at a max boost of 3.5ghz, equaling a basic performance score of 28 (8 core x 3.5ghz). Now the 2699 v3 will only turbo to about 2.6ghz under full load, with 18 cores, giving it a performance of 46.8 on the same scale. Do you now realize how dumb you sounds saying they're equal? Plus hyperthreading increases multicore performance even more when you add more cores.
+PyroRaider yeah obviously withing similar generations. im sure a xeon out there that is ten years old wont beat a brand new i7 or even a i5. look at passmark scores. at top rank are xeons that cost thousands. and have many cores with HT. lol
It's all about the Pentiums baby...
.. I cant tell if you're joking or not.
Workin' at a desk with a dumb little placard? Yeah, paying the bills with my mad programming skills.
Defragging my hard drive for thrills
Got me a 100 gigbytes of RAM
I never feed trolls and I don't read spam
Installed a T1 line in my house
Always at my PC double clicking on my mizous.
Upgrade my system at least twice a day,
I'm strictly plug-n-play (uh huh!), I ain't afraid of Y2K
THANKS almost 2 years later I was asking myself this question !
Muito bom! Pela primeira vez uma explicação definitiva sobre Core VS Xeon. Praticamente nunca me inscrevo no CZcams mas desta vez com certeza farei. Ótimo vídeo, curti, compartilhei e me inscrevi. Parabéns.
While building a computer for both data analysis and gaming, I went ahead with a Xeon E3-1230 v3 over an i5 or i7. At the time, the processor was close to the price of an i5 with the performance of an i7 (and I was going to have a dedicated GPU anyway). I can't count the number of people who told me, "but Xeons aren't for gaming".
Good video Linus
+1
Same here its just idiots who think that only i5/i7 processors are good for gaming and everything else is shit, so many noobs give out false information before they've bothered doing any research or testing themselves.
To be fair xeons aren't made for gaming, but that doesn't mean they CAN'T be used for gaming.
Simply the best explanation..Thanks Linus!
You are awesome bro. Your videos help me a lot. Keep up the great work.
hey Linus I'm a very huge fan of your work you're incredibly intelligent and I go to you for all my computer questions keep it up thank you so much you help me out today keep it up
Simple Terms:
Gaming = i5
Rendering / Editing = i7
Servers / Heavy Workloads = Xeon
***** Grandparents = Celeron
Patents use Pentiums.
Kids use i3
You can use a i7 for gaming?
***** The i7 would be useless for gaming, it has no benefit. The i7 is just like an i5, except it has hyperthreading, which is useful for things like rendering videos, editing photos, or anything like that.
a Xeon costs more than my car
Thats just. WoW
+Sid Nas you can get a xeon for 209
+Sid Nas just picked up an e3-1231 v3 at microcenter for $209... you must have a really cheap car.
+Sid Nas That means a pentium is more expensive...
+Sid Nas Check used server stock, like 30 bucks for a Xeon
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Thank you, Linus! :) and now back to my regular system build.
I want to have future support for 4 TB's of ram.
XEON IT IS!
Or course, so in 2089, you'll be able to build your dream rig with an ancient cpu
5TB
Alec Farrugia Cachia lol
Might as well just install the OS right into RAM
u r a chrome user
Did that xeon say it supports 4TB of RAM?
That over 4x the amount of storage I have wow
+James Edison just download more ram
RektSkrubs Good idea
+RektSkrubs haha yeah, like its so easy
+James Edison who needs RAM when you have sheep
Thank you Linus that was very helpful!! Has Luke done any tests in Maya or 3DSMax for rendering? Xeon vs i7 for Rendering.
yall are awesome, keep up the groovy work.
Can you do the ultimate error correcting stable rig: Xeon, EEC RAM, ECC Quadro...
Linus be like: i7 vs Xeon, final answer. His conclusion: Well, it depends. :P
Here is also this point that can be useful for some scenarios: Xeons, being server-grade hardware, if used in server or workstation grade setups, can last for a very long time.
I have a Core 2 Q9300 (which happened to be is just a rebadged Xeon E3000 series for that generation) in workstation grade hardware, and it lasted for 6 years and is still in active service. I will upgrade this machine very soon just because the motherboard don't have enough PCIe slots and I am facing bottlenecks interfacing the GTX 650 Ti upgrade, but even after the upgrade the old motherboard and CPU will still be in active service and used in another chassis with some other old parts thrown in as a HTPC.
Nice explaination--I was wondering about the difference between xeon and i7.
What core would be the best for video 4k editing and studio recording
I realty want which is going to be lighting fast
Really*
Expensive but RN Its the Core i7700K
@@aumbhambhani7936 that´s true the cheapest is the core 2 Quad 9650 i think.
I Bought dual Xeon's 24 core 48 threads and TITAN Z Quad SLI just to play CS at 800x600 cuz ima CS PRO
You can't have quad titan z since a single titan z is made of two 780 ti's and motherboards only support 4 gpu's . So two titan z is the limit
wow ur poor, i got 4 intel i9's in crossSLI along with superclocked octo Titan Z's with 3tb of ssd VRAM.
Mathew Johnston Isn't a Titan Z two Titan chips on one board?
Wow that pc cant run csgo at 800x600 I mean it can but at low settings, sorry you'll never become a pro with that pc
zsshooter
2 Dual GPU's is Quad SLI
4 Single GPU's is 4 Way SLI
Even nvidia drivers say that when you enable those configs
thanx for the great vid,
could you actually tell us wich would be better for ProTools music editing and mixing :D
Best to You!
Nicely explained @Linus.. as always. Thank you
fx 8320 or i5?
i5!!!! Dont ask why cuz I said so. If u really wanna go Google is waiting for you.
which i5?
ummm 4690K the 70K and 90K are really close in price and have a difference dont ask why i said so if u really wanna go Google is waiting for you
Well, in terms of price/performance, the 8320 wins, but in terms of pure performance, the i5 will do perform better.
Yea the i5 4690K has much improved TIM (Thermal Interface Material) which will help in better overclocking and less heat issues than the 4670K
my first pc was a dual xeon with 2 gigs ram :)
-_-
Rece what? I still have it..
played wow on it
what do you use it for?
playing wow
I upgraded the ECC ram and stuck an AGP video card in it and played wow on it
Windows XP ...was an old business server I guess
Oh I miss that intro song.. And when Luke did the benchmarks... Damn, I'm subscribed to Linus for s long time xD
HI! I just found this great video. It is great! I just want to figure out which is the better CPU for me: Xeon e-2816(e-2716) vs i9-8950hk (i7-8850). Which CPU support memory interleaving memory and overclocking? Thank you so much!
1.Xeons are i7 that dont have K's and IGPs with them
2.Xeons run cooler and cheaper like Xeon E3 1230 v3 than i7 4770
..so yes it's good for gaming and multi tasking.
Bedscenez Is Xeon Best For Gaming?
There are Xeons what can OC
@@karinano1stan you say it the E5-1600( v2) Xeons are overclocking monsters, especially the e5-1650 v0 and the e5-1680V2, 1660 v2. 1660 is the hardest to overclock over 4,8 GHz.
So if I can get a xeon equivalent i7-4770 for a lower price and I don't want to overclock is it a viable option to get one?
Yes of course!
Very, I have a W3680 and its paired up with 12gb of RAM and A 1050ti. Super simple budget gaming rig. Performs well, but doesn't crank out ray tracing at 4k 60fps, obviously
I use dual and triple Xeon based machines for running server type tasks like data backup to local and cloud servers, but primarily because they perform exceptionally with DAWs where its more about having more cores to split the load over having fewer faster cores. Stupidly expensive, but for the task specific operations they just cannot be beat.
I'm actually planning to build my first computer build with a Xeon 1231V3 but I have a few questions regarding it, since I am getting a GTX 980 I am not trying to have it on such high temps when It is under load, so what I am asking what kind of case would you recommend me to get and how many case fans would I need? To keep my computer cool.
Meanwhile my 2008 Macbook is running on a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.
Same, though I'm using a PC
Same, only mine is running Catalina :-)
Which one downloads porn faster?
Intel Pentinum
Intel Celeron
pentium 4
Xeon 1000 core 10000 thread cpu from the year 3016
+Dalmation935 hahahahaha
Ur videos are the best all the others are so confusing btw can u do a review on the Dell Precision 7820 Tower Workstation and all the other ones in the line up like the 7920 and 5000 series
Nice video Linus. Thx a lot for comparing them for us. Btw, I love your Tardis in the background! #Whovian
the 4096 memory on the Xeon made me cry.
Great video linus!!!
Fun fact about the E3-1246 is that it runs cooler than the i7 4790. At full load it barely goes past 51C with air cooling. I have a Zalman cnps14x and in idle avg core temp is 27C.
cores run at lower speeds on Xeon
+Phoenix MH83 E3-1246 v3 ramps up to 3.98GHz. Sure its not a K model but I can't complain.
+Anthony Kavassis that is odd because the lower clock speeds are suppose to be a benefit to the Xeon architecture
+Phoenix MH83 Actually lower temps are the benefit of the architecture. Sometimes it just means lower speeds.
I have the E3 1241-v3 and in benchmarks it never goes past 60°C
will upgrading to a 4790k from a 4690k for the hyperthreading be worth getting it once direct x 12 comes out?
Xeons are the better i7´s and thei run way Cooler!
was geht dicker? :) gruß yücel
^^
Since they cost 8x more, I think that's pretty expectable.
wow 8x? never, found my Xeon W3690 for 320 bucks
For 40 you don't get an i7, hell, not even a cheap AMD processor.
I use a Xeon to calculate when the hamster needs dinner and water :-) Just kidding!
+GaryKildall Yea, I use mine for Notepad and Paintbrush. The heaviest load was playing Minesweeper in expert mode. Temps were so low and I got tons of fps. Its a good chip.
+Codeplayer Well the Xeon 8 core calculated that average hamster can run 8 miles at night and collect and store 44 pounds of food before winter. That's where super computing is meant for ;-)
Linus who does your intro music? It's always top notch.
Hey Linus, what Mic and camera do you use for posting.. Biut random I know but I'm looking to make some presentation videos for youtube and did not want a mic and stuff just hanging about on my face or shirt... So how do you do your'n buddy :D
I shaved a 100$ for my Xeon E3-1230 than the Ivy i7
Good Stuff
+ArJuN AJ Those E3-1230 revisions have always been great value - costs about the same as top-of-the-line i5 but performs like a top-of-the-line i7, just without the IGP which is useless when you have a dedicated GPU anyway (don't say QuickSync, at least for nVidia users there is NVENC SIP core since Kepler)
+陈北宗 Sadly they're not really overclockable though. ;-;
+LiquidPanic I'm not using it for gaming so it's alright for me..
I've gone anyway overkill for my development machine :)
Lol, alright.
+ArJuN AJ Extra cores will help a lot for developers. It takes me several times more time to compile the same Linux kernel on an Ivy Bridge Core i5 laptop (dual core with HT, 2.5GHz, a late 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro) than an Ivy Bridge dual Xeon workstation (12 cores total with HT, 2.1GHz, a pair of E5-2620v2), even though the laptop is running on pure SSD while the workstation is running on an RAID 10 array of spinning platters.
wanted the 4790k but over budget so for $50 less getting the 1231 v3. this is to replace my i5 3330 i have been using for over 2 years and has been the biggest bottleneck to multitasking and even gaming once i upgraded to a r9 280x from a gtx 650. if you dont overclock, prefer low'er' power consumption, and don't care your pc component doesn't have badass codename like 'devil's canyon' then it looks like a xeon is for you :D
+Daniel Weinberger (DTUB) xeons are the best bang for your buck
Big high five for the Spock and Aegis Dynamics posters! :)
So here is the question; Assuming I can game on the Xeon without significant performance losses, what would I gain productivity wise as compared to an i7? My primary use is 3D rendering and image editing in photoshop.
Can you sing Rap God by Eminem, Linus?
LMFAO
Xeon might be designed for servers but let's face it, the best Xeon at the moment (E5-2699 v3) gets almost the double performance of the best i7 at the moment (i7-5960X). So why even bother questioning which one is better?
It's freaking clear Xeon is more powerful by far, for server AND for gaming, but when it comes to prices it's a different story.
Well, xeon e5 2699 v3 cinebench r15 score is about 2300, i7 5960x(without OC) cinebench r 15 score is about 1500. However, cinebench results show the full cpu rendering power. If a video game only uses 6 cores even for a 18 core cpu, 5960x could beat 2699v3 in this situation because of higher frequency. And if a game can only use 4 cores, i7 4770 could beat 5960x for the same reason. But this is could only be theory. I have a pc with i7 4770k and a workstation with dual e5 2670v3, and I am planning to test some games on both configuration.
Oh, I have tested some on them. My 4770k's cinebench score is about 720 while dual e5 2670v3's is about 2880. And I also did some rendering test using 3ds max + vray. Dual e5 is about 4 times faster than single i7. Don't know how game test will turn out. But I will do that in next couple of days.
chlbrn
no duh CPU rendering will be alot faster with the dual 18-core hyperthreaded CPUs compared to a single i7 with 8 cores as rendering is a preset set of data while gaming really is a dynamic set of data especially if it is a game with physics turned on high or whatever is the most demanding in its options.
the i7 will win at gaming while the Xeon 2699 v3 blew it away at rendering thus why cinabench lies about CPUs as more cores almost always equals better in it.
yumri4 No, Cinebench doesn't lie. It is just a render engine with a small scene to show the rendering power. So it is a method to evaluate the rendering power, if you are doing cpu rendering, then it is good, don't use it to compare server cpu to gaming cpu. Also, 3d software has physics and simulation which is similar to real time but higher level of accuracy.
chlbrn still cinabench will almost always say the CPU with more cores is better if both are clocked the same. Now if one CPU with more cores is clocked lower than the other with fewer cores then it depends on how it was coded and how big the differnece is but ussualy same thing the CPU with more cores will come out ahead in a CPU rendering test just becuase it can do more at the same time.
Thus why cinabench sucks at that aspect ... except for workstations and rendering spefic rigs but then the workstations and rendering spefic rigs most times use the GPU to render with not the CPU and yes i know the CPU is used for physics and simulations in most programs so thus more cores = better in that siturtaion.
Cinebench just mainly isnt a good mentric to use unless you are compareing alike things together like a 4 core CPU to another 4 core CPU or multiple 8 core CPUs to one another.
As then that metric breaking thing will be gone and away with as really how many ppl actually use CPU physics which are not in the design screen? Same with with CPU driven simulations? both are ussualy in a design screen and can take around 5~10 minutes for a animation to play through correctly on a lower end build of course. In games though or at least in many games anyways it is baked already so no matter how it is done when you hit the trigger you will get the same animaiton ... sometimes seen as a flaw in the game but it is used to save a ton of computing power.
I'm getting a Xeon E3-1231 V3 for my new rig. I don't overclock, and I don't upgrade often so when I do it needs to be a high quality product that will last. The build quality alone tempted me to this series of CPU's. The fact that they're slightly more unusual teases me as well. Should be a good choice for a HTPC gaming rig as the TDP on them is so low.
Thanks for clearing this up. Very helpful.
4:30 overdoing the hand movements
Bruh he's linus
The answer is a potato.
Nozzy Works 11 people cared**
Nozzy Works You need help kid..
+UberInfiniteGaming I care man ! :D
+UberInfiniteGaming I care
+UberInfiniteGaming i eat potato dont give fuk about cpu cilicon shit :P
Oh Maaan.. you just forced me to give you one more sub to your channel.....good work.. :)
hi, this video was amazing, i need one help for build workstation for 3dsmax,maya,vray,lumion rendering.
please say which processor (Xeon / i7 /Amd ryzen ) is best for rendering.
I turned the player down to half speed so that your voice didn't disturb my pet bat. :)
No one is going to buy a E3 Xeon or a I7 Just to game.. Where are the real results like rendering. $250 Xeon 1231 V3 VS $230 I5 4690k VS $300 I7 4770 VS $330 I7 4790k. Please do a real testing with productivity in mind. With no overclocking.
couldn't have said it better
+t800 Ya all the reviews of the Xeon 1231 v3 that I've seen compare them to overclocked cpus and mostly use gaming to compare. If all we wanted to-do is game we'd get a i5 xxxx. I don't think Intel wants people to see the value in Xeons..
i have a 4790k and i only game
+Alice Heart then you my fried wasted money,just for gaming the diff betwen the i5 and i7 dosent justify the diff the price
***** no it's an amazing chip, but has no IGPU and can't be OC'd.
Great dude every time your video satisfies me..
Thanks,, im just about to buy a desktop with a xeon, so found this helpful
I would love a Xeon PC
Matthew Coupe Is Xeon A Best CPU?
@@KingIjazMalik no
HP do them. I currently have two XW6600's with dual 5450's and 32Gb ECC RAM each. Picked them up on eBay for not much.
The Cheero was more interesting than the Xeon. Only because I didn't learn anything I didn't already know.
Well aren't you special.
TotalityTV Linus says to comment your opinion, we must abide by the lord's wishes.
Everyone so cynical, just sucking the fun out of everything.
When someone makes a tutorial on something, do you think it's okay to say "Why did you make this video? I already know how to do this."
TotalityTV You have a good point when you say it like that. Just let my comment hide away in the cesspool of youtube comments.
You´re the best, thanks for all tips. Regards.
1:22 notice the fly that flies behind Linus
Xeon E3-1231v3 is about the same as an i7-4790, but no IGP.
What is Igp Bro
HAZIK PROGAMER integrated graphics processor my guy
@@hazikrabbani3496 Intergrated Graphic Processing... which mean you need hook up you monitor to Graphic Card for display and you cannot use motherboard build in ports for display.
Xeons can actually be cheaper, if you're not going for the insane 18-core E5-2699. A Xeon E3-1231 will cost about 230 euros and perform just like a Core i7 4770(K), which costs about 270 euros. This applies to software as well as games. Where it really comes into its own is when software takes advantage of hyperthreading/many cores, like x264 encoders (like Handbrake).
If you want the performance of an i7, don't need the integrated GPU (Intel's suck anyway, so don't even bother unless you're fine with running only the Windows desktop) and don't care for overclocking, then a Xeon can actually be a cheaper and and better alternative. And you don't have to use ECC memory. And most motherboards support them (a BIOS upgrade might be needed though), so the technical hurdle is nonexistent.
Corristo89 Fuck europe were talking about the american continent where it was designed fabricated in china/taiwan/japan
Corristo89 Huh? Why is talking about himself and his family?
This helped me out so much. Thanks man!
Even though this video is 5 years old I have just now watched it lol and it is good to see that Linus actually knew and knows whats up with this stuff. In 2013 my first 'gaming computer' was a Dell Precision T3500 with a W3550 Xeon Quad Core @ 3GHZ, 4GB of RAM and a Radeon R9-270X 2GB GPU, and at the time it could beat most i5 builds and come close to i7 builds for a fraction of the price. Fast forward a couple years and I put a Xeon W3670 Hex Core @ 3.2GHZ, 12GB of RAM and a Geforce 1070 in there and a couple years a go it still kicked butts! I eventually built a custom but that computer was a beast and my roommate still uses it to game to this day.
Dual & Quad Xeon systems are simply cheaper than single i7 systems, especially aftermarket rigs, at least on eBay they are.
Uhmm... Are you sure those rigs arent the oldest of the oldest?
Tacodude11NL
Older YES, cheaper, HELL YES, slower, NO. Dual Quad & Hex core Xeon systems absolutely blow single i7's away, they run cooler, can perform more calculations per second and are only functional with ECC REG RAM, which makes them more reliable, more redundant and 99.99.09% error-free. Game Servers run dual quad/hex core Xeons, Gamers run single i7's and think their PC's are better than servers? Uhmm, you're an idiot.
HardlineAthiest Gaming doesnt benefit from having alot of cores, and since xeons are focused for servers, they have alot of cores wich are running slower, where a i7 has less cores wich run faster. For servers xeons are better, but for gaming a i7 is better.
HardlineAthiest Yhea, your now trying to bait.... And your failing pretty hard at it.
Boy those ads are getting longer and longer.
but it seems some people liked the cheero ad better than the actual topic.
hey linus could you do a video on building a pc for 3d/motion/rendering vs gaming?
Great great great video. Thank you, as always.
i7 for gaming and Xeon for server and heavy CPU work
softrockification Yes.....
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softrockification Yes.....
softrockification Actually, DahChubChub is right. Xeon is made for workstation work not damn gaming.
Show some love for the i3?
No!
People asked a lot but reach the point asking a lot less!! Super happy I got your vid when I asked google (already subscribed)!!!
I want to buy or processor for renderings, I 'm looking between I7 6900K - Xeon E5 2640V4 or E5 2630V4 , those processors have similar prices, clear the Xeon is cheaper and consumes less energy and have more cores , some opinion some or Cinebench test ?
The 386 blows both of them out of the water.
Linus, is there currently a better board than the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS?
I want to run dual xeons and 4way SLI and have the sickest rig ever.
I also don't give 2 fucks how much it costs. Is it the best?
Really, there isn't a best board. It depends on what you want.
Spectrum Security default "depends" comment? I told you what i need. THE SICKEST MOTHERFUCKING GAMING/ RENDERING / MINING / SIMULATION / ALL IN ONE ULTIMATE SUPERFUCKINGRIG.
Clearer?
Son of a Zombie pcpartpicker.com
MJ Park you forgot a couple titan z's
Shane Lindsay MJ Park I think you will find my build quite reasonable. I consider it an entry-level computer at only $31 grand . ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Y3TgrH
I'm looking forward to buy a budget SFF refurbished pc for video, audio & photo editing.
What would you chose between a HP Z230/Z240 workstation with Xeon e3-1231 v3/e3-1230 v5 with dedicated Nvidia Quadro K620 or some SFF's from HP or Dell with Core i7 4790k, Core i7-6700 & Core i5-7500, but with no dedicated video card (must buy it separately - 80-150 $)?
Many thanks !
I have a question. I use Ableton Live to compose electronic music. Running a i7 5930k right now and I load it with so many plugins that sometimes it doesn't seem to be enough. Xeon E5-2695 has 14 cores (28 threads) and costs about the same. If I sell my 5930k I can buy a e5 2695 for the same price. Is it actually going to improve the performance for this kind of job or is not worth it?
So would a Xeon 1231 v3 be good for a video editing pc on the budget of $800??
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if you are not gonna do any overclocking..yeah, it sure do good.
Yes. It is roughly equivalent to a 4770 but sometimes cheaper. No on board gpu though. There are obviously better processors for the job, but on that budget it is fine.
That processor is brand new. You could look at the 1230 v2 to save some money without sacrificing performance.
no! for an $800 budget? just get quad core i7 and spend a little more on graphics.
Depends on whether you'll be using it for gaming (i.e. you need a video card), because if you do your budget won't accommodate it, and something like an 8320 and 280 would fit better. Otherwise if you aren't getting a GPU then its a good chip though the 1230 V3 is generally a little cheaper and practically the same.
i would pay extra to not have integrated graphics or overclocking
Less actually...
NeedMoreMushrooms
Don't tell me how to apply value to goods. not haveing integrated graphics and not having overclocking capability has value to me. this means i am willing to pay more for a cpu that doesn't have integrated graphics and no overclocking capability.
Jazoray
I mean, the Xeons cost less actually with the same performance of a standard i7 equivalent, the ones that are more powerful and dont need overclocks cost pretty much the same..
Jazoray but the new directx12 makes it possible to make use of the integrated graphics alongside with your GPU. You will gain more power this way. It will make better use of that unused integrated graphics this way.
Alucard8319 irrelevant
The beginning of the video mentioned I5, I7, and Xeon but after that there was no mention of the I5, just a comparison of the various models of Xeon and how the basic core of that works compared to an I7. So, my question is, what about the I5 vs the I7?
I can give an example of Xeon vs i7. I do periodic forecasts for mainframe metrics. To do this process we do a combination of linear models against a calendar of known events and ARIMA on residuals. We do a permutation\combination phase which we evaluate 25 calendar events across 3 environments for a total of 3^25 possible models (In-sample validation is used to select the most accurate model). Since it is a non-critical forecast I don't get any beefy hardware to run the process. I do however have two machines, and i7 and a Xeon, both with 32gbs of ram (The Xeon has ECC ram). To run the process on the i7 takes about 4 days (72ish hours) in total to evaluate and forecast 365 days out (it's auto trimmed at 120 days since the confidence interval is to large to be useful). When ran on the Xeon it takes about 16 hours. When it comes to serious scientific stuff or hard core number crunching (as in complexity and volume of data) the Xeon is superior between the two. It appears to be workload sensitive.
Are the dual Xeon E5410 any good?
Get an i5 or i7 if you are gaming.
i'm editing
Jake Stark Still go i7, Xeons are not worth it, they usually have lower clock speeds, which can hinder anything that you do. The hype over Xeons needs to end.
sportsnut198 you sir never used a xeon, that´s why you say that. For rendering, altho they work on a underclock, they are more orienteded for that. a 8-core xeon will ahve a bit of an edge on editing and rendering.
i am now using the dual Xeon's so now i have 8 cores to use. im pretty pleased with the gaming performance! i also have 2 XFX R7770 DD in crossfire and my average fps in gaming is always far above 60 in games like: Skyrim With texture mods etc.
on the editing part i'm also very pleased. i render in 1080p and the render time is pretty acceptable. i also have a i7 8-core pc, on that pc gaming is better but render time is longer.
so my conclusion is: Xeons for video editing. i7 for gaming.
Why no gaming rigs with xeon?
+Remy Cajallena xeons wont necessarily help when gaming
a true scotsman uth yeah, too bad, I still think Intel i7s are overpriced i5s are ripofs and AMD just plain sucks I dream for the day when octacore cpus become mainstream and only $100 :(
Remy Cajallena the i7 4.0 ghz 4 core one is the best gaming cpu to date imo, but ywah, xeons are the better deal
$50 dollar difference, I'd still go for i7 :/
Remy Cajallena locked i7s are overpriced, i say go with a xeon, they are more reliable
Hi, I am looking for buying an Mac Pro mid 2010 but I was wondering if i should go for a single cpu or a dual cpu? i want to spec it up to the max for video editing & music production. Any requests?
Hey, xeon is perfect on OC (at least older ones)! They by default are quite robust and run cool. I got 4.2GHz from X5670 on default voltage with Intel Extreme cooler and most of the time it runs at around 25*C and on heaviest load it never goes over 60*C, very stable, not a single crash during extensive tests. Aaaaand I run it on Asus P6T which I bought in 2009 for first gen i7 920 (after about 4-5 years I bough cheap, used xeon out of warranty from server room sales).
My father is an electrical engineer and he gets a lot of shit for free. Like a 3,000 dollar Xeon chip
lucky
my dad works for EA, and he can ban anyone he wants to
ECCENTRIC cool
ur daddy is more cooler than his
Yeah and my father is the fucking easter bunny.
Hey I have Intel Core i7-4790
No One Cares :p
+GamerWiTHIN good
+ReyesPiano metoo
ReyesPiano Is It better than Xeon?
Love that Linus put this out here, because I have a HP Z600 with dual e5504's and soon to have 250GB Samsung EVO and 1TB HDD 16GB Ram and a hammied-down 7750 Radeon under the hood. Going to try out Tom Clancy's Siege this free weekend to see how it goes, will let everyone know. Though I don't have any of the above mentioned, and won't until Sunday. So it's got a simple Kingston ssd and 8GB of ecc memory
I'm building a pc for my engineering class (video editing, auto cad, inventor) so should I get a amd opteron or Intel Xeon?