Nintendo's Prototype Wii Emulator for the GameCube

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • In 2005, Nintendo’s engineers were working on early prototypes for their next console, known to fans as the Nintendo Revolution and eventually the Wii. But even though most of its hardware had already been designed by the end of the year, they hadn’t produced any working consoles yet. The console that Nintendo showed off at E3 2005 was just a plastic shell, as core components hadn’t even been prototyped yet. The teams working on the Wii’s operating system needed a way to start development to get everything ready in time for the planned 2006 launch date, so Nintendo’s engineers quickly built a system that would use a GameCube development console, three special accessories never meant to be seen outside of the company, and two PCs each running different operating systems to let them start working on Wii software without actually having any Wiis. This is the story of the Revolution Emulator, Nintendo’s prototype Wii emulator for the GameCube.
    00:00 - Opening
    01:06 - The Wii's development
    03:17 - Overview of the Revolution Emulator
    06:27 - Special Hardware
    08:18 - RVL-Ocean Board
    09:15 - Closing
    10:16 - Messages & Credits
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Komentáře • 145

  • @Lethaltail
    @Lethaltail Před rokem +185

    The "Nov 5 2005" date shown at 8:03 is an artifact of me changing the date on my RVL_SDK VM to bypass the expiration date of the early RVL compiler i used to compile the System Menu shown at 5:17.

    • @ArtieArchives
      @ArtieArchives Před 7 měsíci +24

      Imagine still wearing a face mask when it's almost 2024

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 Před 7 měsíci +11

      ⁠​⁠@@ArtieArchivesWhen people said they would continue wearing theirs even after the pandemic during corona time, I didn’t actually believe them. Why chastise yourself like that?

    • @ArtieArchives
      @ArtieArchives Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@damian9303 What do you mean?

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@ArtieArchives it’s a rhetorical question, not particularly aimed towards you but to those still wearing face masks even after the pandemic officially ended.

    • @ArtieArchives
      @ArtieArchives Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@damian9303 Oh, in that case I agree with you

  • @citricdolphin336
    @citricdolphin336 Před 6 měsíci +169

    Something interesting about the Wii's design:
    It doesn't have a normal operating system. All games run on bare metal. The Wii System Menu is practically just a game built into the console, and the popup menu when you press the home button is built into every game individually.
    However, the Wii also has a co-processor called "Starlet," which *does* have its own OS. That's the one mentioned in this video. It's in charge of trying keep things secure and providing API interfaces to games (e.g. USB access).

    • @tredI9100
      @tredI9100 Před 6 měsíci +23

      The DSi is very similar, there's some boot stuff that initialises things like the Wi-Fi card, and then it just kicks you into the main menu. All the apps are just ROMs, even the main menu.

    • @diamondjebgold9906
      @diamondjebgold9906 Před 4 měsíci +27

      Is that why the controllers lights turn off for a small period then turn back on almost instantly?

    • @tredI9100
      @tredI9100 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@diamondjebgold9906 Probably.

    • @Naitrio
      @Naitrio Před 4 měsíci +1

      Interesting...

    • @danplaysguitar6706
      @danplaysguitar6706 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@tredI9100 does that in theory mean the main menu can be emulated?

  • @jgsh8062
    @jgsh8062 Před rokem +93

    I can't believe we're STILL discovering new Wii and 3DS era stuff. Amazing!!

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith Před 4 měsíci +1

      There's still weird indev bits and hardware being discovered for even the GBA, and given newer consoles are so much more complex I doubt we'll be "done" learning about the newer hardware for some time.

  • @nullset2
    @nullset2 Před 4 měsíci +59

    So the wii wasn't two gamecubes duct taped together, it was a gamecube, a bunch of weird boards and TWO pcs duct taped together!

    • @theendofit
      @theendofit Před 4 měsíci +2

      It was a decent amount more powerful and gamecube was more powerful then ps2. Why dont you compare the xbox one x to the series s. It is a smaller percentage improvement over it then the wii was to the gamecube

    • @rayojordan2838
      @rayojordan2838 Před 4 měsíci +1

      To be fair the Wii had all of these peripherals and Wii motes so it was a Basically a GameCube with Side Activities/Mission 😂
      The Wiii U is basically a GameCube and Wii Tied together and the switch is a Wii U game pad with detachable controllers 😂

    • @iesusdesus5704
      @iesusdesus5704 Před 4 měsíci

      @@rayojordan2838? what is 😂 for?

  • @diyamondsbreakers2344
    @diyamondsbreakers2344 Před 7 měsíci +84

    This is like that Dave The Barbarian pun
    "And then, Nintendo engineers improvise the Gamecube succesor with a USB cable, a Linux PC and a Gamecube"

  • @NewNova88
    @NewNova88 Před rokem +47

    Hello right there.
    I'm an owner of 2 RVL-Ocean-X12 boards and 1 RVL-Turtle-01 board.
    I'm currently doing research to make this work and see what's inside "RVL-Turtle".
    What I can say based on exterior, and research :
    The RVL-Ocean-X12 board is an optical disc emulator. It also seem to be the power card since you have to plug a GCN AC Adapter to make it power up.
    The RVL-Turtle-01 board is a "disc" containing software or firmware. Since no one was able to make it work, nobody, even me, can theorise on what's inside.
    Since it's an ODEM, the ports to "connect to the Wii disc drive" are probably ports that connect to the Wii directly and substitute the mechanical drive. I'm not sure on this one, I have to grab another Wii to further research (and also a GCN).
    Since I have 2 boards, I can spot what's missing on the better one. It's just a matter of 1 capacitor, 3 small components (that I have on the bad board) and 1 switch. Although I might not even need the small components and the switch, because it has clearly never been there before (contrary to the capacitor which is ripped off).
    On my YT channel, I will soon do a presentation of what it is (only in french though).
    But I will, on my Twitter, provide all the small details of my progress in english.
    This board is quite mysterious and I want to know what's inside the RVL Turtle.

  • @NotMasterGamer
    @NotMasterGamer Před rokem +188

    The editing quality is insane. I initinaly thought this video was from a channel with thousands of subs. I hope you don't stay criminally underrated

    • @Lanausse
      @Lanausse Před rokem +1

      I though the exact same thing!

    • @jelly063
      @jelly063 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I wouldn't say it's insane, it could be better, but otherwise I agree.

    • @Agret
      @Agret Před 4 měsíci +2

      It is now a channel with thousands of subs 🎉

    • @Agret
      @Agret Před 2 měsíci

      @Grayson2763 funny how quickly it can change if you get the CZcams algorithms attention. I found the video from recommended section.

  • @BruceShankle
    @BruceShankle Před rokem +25

    Wow, this looks like an surprisingly in-depth explanation of how nintendo developed the Wii... Without the Wii! Thanks for making this video, this is really fascinating content.

    • @AddableStone13
      @AddableStone13 Před 4 měsíci +1

      So is the Wii just a repackaged GameCube but with extra hardware?

  • @asdfghjklNice
    @asdfghjklNice Před rokem +4

    Subscribed! Can’t wait for the next video!

  • @pineapplepizza1941
    @pineapplepizza1941 Před rokem +3

    great video, really in depth and explained well. i subbed

  • @Karlenk0
    @Karlenk0 Před rokem +6

    Your content is very good and really informative ,you should get more visibility, i will share this video to some of my friends, i hope you do well in the future.

  • @perkanover
    @perkanover Před rokem +8

    This video would be good from a channel with 5 million subscribers! Keep up the good work!

  • @lonely.summers
    @lonely.summers Před rokem +5

    very well done video, i’ll be subscribing and checking out your other videos 👍

  • @SusiTerry
    @SusiTerry Před rokem +20

    Was the version of Vista they used a prototype or did they get a final build early?

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před rokem +31

      Sorry for the confusion; they used XP, the text is just there to clarify because the footage shows Vista. - K

  • @frodothehobbit
    @frodothehobbit Před 4 měsíci

    Your video was really interesting few years ago I found out a way to get NDEV, RVT-H, RVT-R. The history behind all this prototype is nice to see for the public.

  • @cloudnsec
    @cloudnsec Před 4 měsíci +2

    Love the research put into this documentary!

  • @mdrdprtcl
    @mdrdprtcl Před 4 měsíci

    This is incredibly thorough! Sub’d

  • @keviniaquinto128
    @keviniaquinto128 Před rokem +4

    This is a fantastic video!

  • @tatsuyamashita
    @tatsuyamashita Před 4 měsíci

    great video 🎉

  • @matty6598
    @matty6598 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nice video

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is a pretty clever workaround, for hardware limitations at the time, and the fact that they combined all that, into one little white box, is pretty incredible when you think about it, and my original Wii still works to this day, as if it just came of the box!

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před 4 měsíci +1

      This was just a prototype thing, it's not in the actual Wii.

  • @Bitstacker
    @Bitstacker Před 4 měsíci

    Wow that was great! You know your stuff!

  • @1leon000
    @1leon000 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I really want to see the early programs on that thing, like the Virtual Console and web browser!

  • @KittyCatKayden
    @KittyCatKayden Před 8 měsíci +2

    The last song in this video is my favorite song in AC!

  • @mr.withoutname
    @mr.withoutname Před rokem +2

    this is awesome

  • @joost1453
    @joost1453 Před rokem +2

    This is very interesting

  • @creeperhaed1267
    @creeperhaed1267 Před 4 měsíci +10

    1:07 "Driftveil City" kicks in 😮‍💨 (some Song from Pokémon Black and White I dunno)

    • @thatonekid220
      @thatonekid220 Před 4 měsíci +2

      so I am NOT alone :3

    • @espset1234
      @espset1234 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Theory: I think this might be why the algorithm is pushing this video now..?😅🤔

    • @creeperhaed1267
      @creeperhaed1267 Před 4 měsíci

      @@espset1234 Probably... wait, you also noticed?!?

    • @espset1234
      @espset1234 Před 4 měsíci

      Oh yes I noticed😅 A few weeks back my girlfriend was dancing to some tiktok and my brain went "wait... This is familiar..." And now this tune is absolutely everywhere, and I just got a feeling the algorith has just gone full driftveil these days😅

  • @Luke_Stoltenberg
    @Luke_Stoltenberg Před 4 měsíci +2

    What a convoluted setup

  • @RedStoneMatt
    @RedStoneMatt Před 4 měsíci

    Very interesting documentary!

  • @Fancy2209Real
    @Fancy2209Real Před rokem +2

    Reminds me of that LowSpecGamer video where he talked about DS Games Beeing developed without a DS

  • @spaceghostmiid
    @spaceghostmiid Před 4 měsíci

    holy shit, my local games store had one of these years ago but i never knew what it was. i've been trying to find this dev kit for years.

  • @ThunderMelon
    @ThunderMelon Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very Appreciated "Joy" Jump Scare

  • @JustinPennito
    @JustinPennito Před 5 měsíci

    That's badass!

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Před 8 měsíci +8

    I realized that the Revolution known as the Wii really was a upgrade of the GameCube.

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 Před 7 měsíci +2

      So much for being the next revolution

    • @nojuanatall3281
      @nojuanatall3281 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Those homemade handheld gamecubes are usually a trimmed down wii.

  • @hirschlord341
    @hirschlord341 Před 4 měsíci

    Hope its running on swiss and co ?all tuning chips ?

  • @tailsmonster12
    @tailsmonster12 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I LOVE PERSONA 3 SOUNDTRACK

  • @BarderBetterFasterStronger
    @BarderBetterFasterStronger Před 4 měsíci

    I get that driftveil is a banger but man every youtuber who does video essays are sure doing their best to kill it.

  • @5persondude
    @5persondude Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nintendo: "Emulation stifles innovation"
    Also Nintendo:

  • @hershmysson
    @hershmysson Před 4 měsíci

    okay i knew the wii was already a souped up gamecube but that's wild :o

  • @obsidianchao
    @obsidianchao Před 4 měsíci

    List of music? That first song is so familiar! Persona 3 maybe?

  • @morrisdennison8039
    @morrisdennison8039 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Your telling me the modding community might make my gamecube into a Wii

  • @alecheesacker4460
    @alecheesacker4460 Před 4 měsíci

    Well! I did see GameCube Games work within the Wii!

  • @SelectStart89
    @SelectStart89 Před 4 měsíci

    Subbed

  • @resucutie
    @resucutie Před 3 měsíci

    1:22 when you put a music that turns into meme

  • @kibaofficial6332
    @kibaofficial6332 Před 4 měsíci

    Why do i currently hear everywhere the song of driftveil city from Pokemon gen5? xD

  • @stpedro-ht9ng
    @stpedro-ht9ng Před 4 měsíci

    I hear P3 soundtrack and like immediately

  • @Cyorg13
    @Cyorg13 Před rokem +4

    Just wanted to mention, the Homebrew Channel audio you use for your intro seems a bit loud and bass boosted. Might just be me though, as I'm wearing headphones.

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the feedback; part of it is bass boosted for added effect. Hopefully we'll get our own intro theme soon :P

  • @Gamez4eveR
    @Gamez4eveR Před 4 měsíci

    What is the first track, it sounds like it comes from a bootleg Persona game but I've heard it a lot lately

    • @chiptunesoprano
      @chiptunesoprano Před 4 měsíci

      The music's sourced at the top right corner of the video, it's a remix of P3's Joy BGM from Persona Q2 (3DS)

    • @Gamez4eveR
      @Gamez4eveR Před 4 měsíci

      @@chiptunesoprano czcams.com/video/Src3czHw0sg/video.html god this sounds so much better

  • @nintendians
    @nintendians Před 4 měsíci

    got to start somewhere.

  • @Loganjay_
    @Loganjay_ Před rokem +2

    uhh why is ur intro just bass boosted homebrew

  • @CarolineIsMe
    @CarolineIsMe Před 4 měsíci

    1:07 Hehe its that funny dancing meme song

  • @pepesito17
    @pepesito17 Před rokem +5

    my hamster bites me eventhough I am so nice to him

  • @maritoguionyo
    @maritoguionyo Před rokem +2

    1:00 audio

  • @skypeppers657
    @skypeppers657 Před rokem +3

    this video is nice but Pepiseto's hampster bites him

  • @sypoth
    @sypoth Před 2 měsíci

    Just further proof that the Wii was just a Game Pube that could take full size disks and used motion controls.

  • @noa670
    @noa670 Před rokem +3

    Based

  • @susposter779
    @susposter779 Před 4 měsíci

    Please explain 0:57

  • @immortallix
    @immortallix Před 4 měsíci +1

    1:08 I miss when companies could have hot babes trot out the new hardware for no reason

  • @FinalBossOfCanada
    @FinalBossOfCanada Před 4 měsíci +2

    1:07
    ALL I HEAR AND SEE IS FUCKING TOOTHLESS DANCING, HELP!

  • @RipeStories
    @RipeStories Před rokem +3

    Great video but the thumbnail needs some work. I‘d suggest you use a bright picture of the gamecube with slightly better visible text. Otherwise this video was wasted effort 😓

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před rokem +4

      Thanks for your feedback; I tried to make sure that the text would stand out in the thumbnail, which is why the picture of the GameCube is dimmed. Even if the dim GameCube prevents it from getting more views, I don't consider it wasted effort. - K

    • @RipeStories
      @RipeStories Před rokem +3

      @@RGDCZcams Sorry was a bit harsh, I just meant to say you deserve more views 👍🏻

  • @stefanvanderlinden6042
    @stefanvanderlinden6042 Před 3 měsíci

    now wiiu on wii

  • @ApertureSciencePsycho
    @ApertureSciencePsycho Před 5 měsíci +4

    3:57 Ain't no way they used arch linux to make the wii 💀
    Makes sense tho, it was released in 2002

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před 5 měsíci +10

      They didn't, they used Red Hat.

    • @ApertureSciencePsycho
      @ApertureSciencePsycho Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@RGDCZcams, oh, so they paid for a license for something you can get for free 💀
      Why do corporations do that tho

    • @jordanl5444
      @jordanl5444 Před 4 měsíci +13

      ​@ApertureSciencePsycho they're not paying for the OS, it's enterprise level customer service they're paying for

    • @ApertureSciencePsycho
      @ApertureSciencePsycho Před 4 měsíci

      @@jordanl5444 ain't no way I got ratioed in fucking CZcams repilies 🗿

  • @_ja.kubix.shorts
    @_ja.kubix.shorts Před 4 měsíci

    1:07

  • @Faisal-wf5hk
    @Faisal-wf5hk Před 4 měsíci

    PERSONA

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 Před 4 měsíci

    When people say the wii is just a overclocked gamecube there not lieing

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd Před 4 měsíci

    It can’t be any stranger then this,that’s like prototyping a snes using a nes with a mmc5 expansion chip and a pc with more ram and rom to simulate 16bit graphics that way,
    1 thing I NEVER understood is why everytime you start up a wii game you will see that ugly curved background border,as if nintendo wanted to fake a curved crt screen on it dor retro gamers or something,i just didn’t like that .

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před 4 měsíci +1

      It was supposed to mimick a wall of TVs at a store, each displaying a different channel - LCDs were new at the time and the curved CRT shape was probably seen as more evocative.

  • @hirschlord341
    @hirschlord341 Před 4 měsíci

    And with some modern kompression and encoding, other bit rates and taktik its running faster than a wiiu 😂😂

  • @matthewrease2376
    @matthewrease2376 Před 4 měsíci

    Why did they use a Windows machine just for a disc drive, why couldn't they do that on the Linux machine too 😭

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před 4 měsíci +1

      It was based on the existing GameCube disc drive emulator software for Windows, easier to use two PCs than to rewrite it for Linux.

  • @Clodd1
    @Clodd1 Před 4 měsíci

    What a mess, it’s too many stuff glued together to make it work.

  • @BIGwillTHEGAME
    @BIGwillTHEGAME Před 4 měsíci

    CZcams Recommended

  • @PoundHandle
    @PoundHandle Před 4 měsíci +1

    omg toothless meme in backroung musac blauh bauh al
    h

  • @fedymunke8684
    @fedymunke8684 Před 4 měsíci

    Wait. So your downgrading, but upgrading? What has this world come to.

  • @KoolLeo11
    @KoolLeo11 Před rokem +2

    Hello! I am an editor at RGDWiki, known for the Mii page.

  • @kernow5000
    @kernow5000 Před 4 měsíci

    People really, really need to stop putting any PCB, let alone rare ones - on a carpet! No

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  Před 4 měsíci

      I made sure I was static discharged first.

    • @kernow5000
      @kernow5000 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@RGDCZcams I'm going to make a blog at this point. I see it all the time. Static bubble wrap is a thing. I didn't realise that was actually your picture.
      Carpets, sofas, expensive ass PCBs and people who don't know how to care for them tsk

  • @hirschlord341
    @hirschlord341 Před 4 měsíci

    😂😂 nice

  • @kara9180
    @kara9180 Před rokem +1

    first

  • @clamojoat1938
    @clamojoat1938 Před 4 měsíci

    nintendo dont like emulators