I don’t know about mormonism but The Bible emphasizes the equality of all humans, regardless of race or skin color. For instance, Galatians 3:28 states, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." This underscores the biblical teaching that all people are equal in the eyes of God.
That is not what that verse says. Post the full context. It refers to the opportunity that everyone on earth has to come unto Christ. It has nothing to do with all races being equal.
There are definitely stories in the Bible where God has favor with the Children of Israel and his wrath was taken out on others, because of how they lived and honored Him. I think you should read the Old Testament again.
@@jenniemichellebravata8068 You need to study more and think about I said. The children if Israel were equal like anyone else. God is no respecter of persons, but it is just like you said; people are cursed with they do bad and blessed when they do good. Its just that simple!
What did the seer stone say? White or pure? Should JS have changed the word on his own? Most correct book? This video misleads the viewer on the church's relation to race.
I understand you want to make it all sound reasonable to a modern audience, but there is an overwhelming deluge of evidence that yes it did indeed mean black skin. The whole book was designed to justify the ransacking of the 'Lamanites' (aka the Native Americans) land and culture by labelling them as wicked. If you would like I can provide many more quotes but I think this one says it all. It's from 'Children of Promise' an LDS-made kids cartoon from 1980, and I'd love you to explain how little kids are meant to interpret this... ‘Look what heavenly father has done, see my skin, isn’t it pretty and white. Heavenly father made my skin white. All righteous Lamanites now have white skin. Isn’t it wonderful. Oh, I look so pretty!’
@@JSandLDS Pre Civil War America, "Black" meant non-Wasps. If you read Mark Twain you will find stories where Italians, Irish, and Swedes are called "Black". Anyone who worked outside and was tan or dirty. It was less a racial slur and more a class one.
@@brettmajeske3525 Calling someone black is not as explicit as referring to black skin. I should add that the little girl in the 1980's LDS cartoon I referred to at the end of my comment is looking in a mirror and saying how pretty she is with her white skin. I doubt any little kids read that scene as a metaphor for class.
@@JSandLDS I have been trying to find the cartoon who mentioned, and have not been able to find it in the list of LDS Church Video productions of the 1980s. Did you get the date and name correct? The only LDS media by that name I could find was a book series from the early 2000s.
“The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.” Revelation 1:14-16 It speaks for itself, his FEET are like burnished bronze likely meaning radiant and his hair is colored not textured like wool. If you see this as an allusion to ethnicity and not a series of Old Testament parallels you’re more interested with inserting your views on race into the word of God than listening to what he has to say
@@th3ophilus340this is where basic science comes in. Pale people burn red in the sun even with all the UV protection technology at their disposal. How could pale people build the pyramids for pharaoh under less than desirable conditions? With that being said, would it not make sense for those natural to the Levant to be dark people?
Perhaps no longer but was certainly the case a few decades ago... I find it most reassuring that society's progression is able steer "the church" in the right direction. Can't wait to hear the rational when mormons start allowing gay marriage in their temples.
Modern LDS can deny if all they want, to their own damnation. The Book of Mormon is very clear on this. It was a very literal dark skin color. It wasn't referring to animal skins or a "glow" or a "state of mind" or anything other than WHAT THE WORDS STATE on the pages of the book. Deny it at your own peril.
Blackness is a metaphor for sin, like saying: a "dark soul." It has nothing to do with actual skin color as throughout the book of Alma, the Nephites and Lamanites were only distinguished by a red mark of paint on the chin, or forehead, of the Lamanites. Nephites and Lamanites were all Native Americans with slightly darker skin.
BS!!! You are just twisting the meaning if the scriptures! Do you also believe that the skins of the seed of Canaan and and the seed if Cain were also just figurative?!? How dumb! Read Moses 7:8, 7:22, and the first chapter of Abraham and this statement frim Joseph Smith who translated it!!! *The curse is not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will it be until it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come." April 7, 1836!!!
This is a Ridiculous Question. We were not made by God. We were created by different Races of Extra Terrestrials who have the advanced technology to create human beings. ET's who came from different parts of our multi universes are of different races - BLUE, BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, YELLOW, RED, GREEN. Hence, our skin color became their manifestation.
The curse today is upon you who continue to deny literal descriptions in the Book of Mormon to appease your guilty conscience. Lehi saw you when he described the people who were ashamed after partaking of the fruit because of those in the great and spacious building scoffing at them.
You sound ridiculous. Step outside your bubble and you might realize that scriptural analogy isnt as profound as you think it is. Public ridicule and peer pressure exist in plenty of other religions or communities. In fact, many members ridicule people for not following their standards. Actually, that's what your doing right now. It's kind of contemptuous. If you want to actually talk to someone, a little respect and understanding would go a long way.
Initially, Jesus appears to refuse her request to heal her demon-possessed daughter, stating, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" Moved by her faith, Jesus ultimately grants her request, healing her daughter and commending her for her faith. Thus, while Jesus initially seems to refuse to help her, he eventually blesses her because of her persistent faith
If you are referring to Matthew 15, biblical scholars agree that Jesus did not focus his ministry on people outside of the Judaism, who were considered the only members of the covenant community. However, after sincere demonstrations of faith, Jesus does bless this Canaanite woman’s daughter. For another example of Jesus blessing someone outside of the Jewish community because of their faith, see Matthew 8:5-13. These stories have nothing to do with skin color, but being a member of the Jewish covenant community and both stories are ultimately a message about faith. Peter and the apostles would later be called to preach Jesus Christ to all people, regardless any classification (Acts 10).
@@Mormonismexplained The concept is that blessings are not for the cursed peoples ( Hamites) but only for the children of Israel. That was the Standard for thousands of years. Mormons have always had people of color receiving blessings. Only Hamites did not receive the Priesthood (they were baptized) until the curse was lifted. My family is part Cherokee. They have always had the right to the Priesthood Jesus was Jehovah. Jehovah did not permit anyone to have the Priesthood but the sons of Aaron. And only the healthy ones. Why?
If you are referring to the Book of Mormon, the text does not say that skin color is a curse. The Lamanites are cursed because of their disobedience and rebellion against God. The curse is described in 2 Nephi 5:20-21 as being “cut off from the presence of the Lord.” As a sign of this, “the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them." Most scholars agree that the skin color was given as a sign of being cut off from the presence of the Lord so that the Nephites would know not to intermarry with anyone who was not keeping the commandments of God. This is similar to a prohibition in the Old Testament when the Israelites were forbidden to marry the Canaanites in Deuteronomy 7:3-4. The Book of Mormon also states that God welcomes all who repent of their sins “black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.” (2 Nephi 26:33) Thanks for watching!
@@Mormonismexplained BS, every people that any and all prophets and apostles have ever called Lamanites have dark skin. That was a result of God causing it to come upon them. Prophets have even commented that the Lamanites are becoming lighter. Generations of “Lamanites” have looked for the day when there skin would be white. Skin of Blackness Dark and Loathsome People. You are not being honest.
@@Mormonismexplained you are free to change and teach your incorrect version of this curse. But, you are only changing it in light of the church changing their stance. Sad when we cannot even trust the most correct book on earth when it tells us God cursed the Lamanites with a skin of blackness so they would not be enticing to the righteous Lamanites. Must be nice to be able to delete comments that contain too much truth for you to process. Every prophet and apostles that has ever identified a Lamanite that just happen to have dark skin. Spencer W Kimball even said they are becoming lighter. The whole premise of the BOM is that God cursed the Lamanites with a Dark skin and the Fair skinned Nephites were alway at war with the Dark skin Lamanites. Which cursing came from God. But, go ahead and reinterpret the old teachings and understanding so it looks better for the church.
No, it's just a useful adaptation to prevent skin cancer
Ok but what about the coffee?
Nice try. 😂
I don’t know about mormonism but
The Bible emphasizes the equality of all humans, regardless of race or skin color. For instance, Galatians 3:28 states, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." This underscores the biblical teaching that all people are equal in the eyes of God.
That is not what that verse says. Post the full context. It refers to the opportunity that everyone on earth has to come unto Christ. It has nothing to do with all races being equal.
Wow you're taking the verse COMPLETELY out of context also no people aren't equal in the Bible
@@blueman-z1m People start off equal, but, there are consequences for sin which make them unequal!!!
There are definitely stories in the Bible where God has favor with the Children of Israel and his wrath was taken out on others, because of how they lived and honored Him. I think you should read the Old Testament again.
@@jenniemichellebravata8068 You need to study more and think about I said. The children if Israel were equal like anyone else. God is no respecter of persons, but it is just like you said; people are cursed with they do bad and blessed when they do good. Its just that simple!
What did the seer stone say? White or pure? Should JS have changed the word on his own? Most correct book?
This video misleads the viewer on the church's relation to race.
It is not a curse but feels like a curse
Thanks for the video!
you can totally tell its about the actual skin especially what early "prophets" taught about it
I understand you want to make it all sound reasonable to a modern audience, but there is an overwhelming deluge of evidence that yes it did indeed mean black skin. The whole book was designed to justify the ransacking of the 'Lamanites' (aka the Native Americans) land and culture by labelling them as wicked. If you would like I can provide many more quotes but I think this one says it all. It's from 'Children of Promise' an LDS-made kids cartoon from 1980, and I'd love you to explain how little kids are meant to interpret this... ‘Look what heavenly father has done, see my skin, isn’t it pretty and white. Heavenly father made my skin white. All righteous Lamanites now have white skin. Isn’t it wonderful. Oh, I look so pretty!’
It couldn't have meant "Black" skin, aka African skin because it is explicitly about NAtive Americans.
@@brettmajeske3525 They had quite different names for Africans in those days. Black skin just meant not white
@@JSandLDS Pre Civil War America, "Black" meant non-Wasps. If you read Mark Twain you will find stories where Italians, Irish, and Swedes are called "Black". Anyone who worked outside and was tan or dirty. It was less a racial slur and more a class one.
@@brettmajeske3525 Calling someone black is not as explicit as referring to black skin. I should add that the little girl in the 1980's LDS cartoon I referred to at the end of my comment is looking in a mirror and saying how pretty she is with her white skin. I doubt any little kids read that scene as a metaphor for class.
@@JSandLDS I have been trying to find the cartoon who mentioned, and have not been able to find it in the list of LDS Church Video productions of the 1980s. Did you get the date and name correct?
The only LDS media by that name I could find was a book series from the early 2000s.
Jesus christ “had the skin of bronze and the hair of wool”
“The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.” Revelation 1:14-16
It speaks for itself, his FEET are like burnished bronze likely meaning radiant and his hair is colored not textured like wool. If you see this as an allusion to ethnicity and not a series of Old Testament parallels you’re more interested with inserting your views on race into the word of God than listening to what he has to say
@@th3ophilus340this is where basic science comes in. Pale people burn red in the sun even with all the UV protection technology at their disposal. How could pale people build the pyramids for pharaoh under less than desirable conditions? With that being said, would it not make sense for those natural to the Levant to be dark people?
How does a video with this title have ads??
Perhaps no longer but was certainly the case a few decades ago... I find it most reassuring that society's progression is able steer "the church" in the right direction. Can't wait to hear the rational when mormons start allowing gay marriage in their temples.
Modern LDS can deny if all they want, to their own damnation. The Book of Mormon is very clear on this. It was a very literal dark skin color. It wasn't referring to animal skins or a "glow" or a "state of mind" or anything other than WHAT THE WORDS STATE on the pages of the book. Deny it at your own peril.
True doctrine does not change! There was a ban that needed to be revoked by God through revelation!!!
Blackness is a metaphor for sin, like saying: a "dark soul." It has nothing to do with actual skin color as throughout the book of Alma, the Nephites and Lamanites were only distinguished by a red mark of paint on the chin, or forehead, of the Lamanites. Nephites and Lamanites were all Native Americans with slightly darker skin.
BS!!! You are just twisting the meaning if the scriptures! Do you also believe that the skins of the seed of Canaan and and the seed if Cain were also just figurative?!? How dumb! Read Moses 7:8, 7:22, and the first chapter of Abraham and this statement frim Joseph Smith who translated it!!! *The curse is not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will it be until it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come." April 7, 1836!!!
This is a Ridiculous Question. We were not made by God. We were created by different Races of Extra Terrestrials who have the advanced technology to create human beings. ET's who came from different parts of our multi universes are of different races - BLUE, BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, YELLOW, RED, GREEN. Hence, our skin color became their manifestation.
Wait, where are the green people?
No..DNA, show we all have black African DNA. TRACE TO ONE WOMAN THE CALLED HER EVE
You misunderstood the science of this. There are many easy to follow videos on YT that can help you.
You're grasping sweetheart...😮
The curse today is upon you who continue to deny literal descriptions in the Book of Mormon to appease your guilty conscience.
Lehi saw you when he described the people who were ashamed after partaking of the fruit because of those in the great and spacious building scoffing at them.
You sound ridiculous. Step outside your bubble and you might realize that scriptural analogy isnt as profound as you think it is. Public ridicule and peer pressure exist in plenty of other religions or communities. In fact, many members ridicule people for not following their standards. Actually, that's what your doing right now. It's kind of contemptuous. If you want to actually talk to someone, a little respect and understanding would go a long way.
Ayooo☠️
these no good BLACK lemonites, always upto no good.
Jesus refused to bless a girl due to her being a descendant of Ham and a Canaanite. Why?
Initially, Jesus appears to refuse her request to heal her demon-possessed daughter, stating, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel"
Moved by her faith, Jesus ultimately grants her request, healing her daughter and commending her for her faith.
Thus, while Jesus initially seems to refuse to help her, he eventually blesses her because of her persistent faith
@@Greg-yu4ij he refused to bless her because she as Hamitic. When she showed her faith then and onlly then was she blessed.
If you are referring to Matthew 15, biblical scholars agree that Jesus did not focus his ministry on people outside of the Judaism, who were considered the only members of the covenant community. However, after sincere demonstrations of faith, Jesus does bless this Canaanite woman’s daughter. For another example of Jesus blessing someone outside of the Jewish community because of their faith, see Matthew 8:5-13. These stories have nothing to do with skin color, but being a member of the Jewish covenant community and both stories are ultimately a message about faith. Peter and the apostles would later be called to preach Jesus Christ to all people, regardless any classification (Acts 10).
@@Mormonismexplained The concept is that blessings are not for the cursed peoples ( Hamites) but only for the children of Israel. That was the Standard for thousands of years. Mormons have always had people of color receiving blessings. Only Hamites did not receive the Priesthood (they were baptized) until the curse was lifted. My family is part Cherokee. They have always had the right to the Priesthood Jesus was Jehovah. Jehovah did not permit anyone to have the Priesthood but the sons of Aaron. And only the healthy ones. Why?
DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think you have it reversed
Only according to the most correct book upon the face of the earth.
If you are referring to the Book of Mormon, the text does not say that skin color is a curse. The Lamanites are cursed because of their disobedience and rebellion against God. The curse is described in 2 Nephi 5:20-21 as being “cut off from the presence of the Lord.” As a sign of this, “the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them." Most scholars agree that the skin color was given as a sign of being cut off from the presence of the Lord so that the Nephites would know not to intermarry with anyone who was not keeping the commandments of God. This is similar to a prohibition in the Old Testament when the Israelites were forbidden to marry the Canaanites in Deuteronomy 7:3-4. The Book of Mormon also states that God welcomes all who repent of their sins “black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.” (2 Nephi 26:33) Thanks for watching!
@@Mormonismexplained BS, every people that any and all prophets and apostles have ever called Lamanites have dark skin. That was a result of God causing it to come upon them.
Prophets have even commented that the Lamanites are becoming lighter.
Generations of “Lamanites” have looked for the day when there skin would be white.
Skin of Blackness
Dark and Loathsome People.
You are not being honest.
@@Mormonismexplained you are free to change and teach your incorrect version of this curse.
But, you are only changing it in light of the church changing their stance.
Sad when we cannot even trust the most correct book on earth when it tells us God cursed the Lamanites with a skin of blackness so they would not be enticing to the righteous Lamanites.
Must be nice to be able to delete comments that contain too much truth for you to process.
Every prophet and apostles that has ever identified a Lamanite that just happen to have dark skin.
Spencer W Kimball even said they are becoming lighter.
The whole premise of the BOM is that God cursed the Lamanites with a Dark skin and the Fair skinned Nephites were alway at war with the Dark skin Lamanites. Which cursing came from God.
But, go ahead and reinterpret the old teachings and understanding so it looks better for the church.