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The way to the mountain | the Land Rover trip | Velebit
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2019
- Join us on the trip with Land Rover along the Velebit mountain wilderness.
From childhood I feel that connection with nature. Affiliation. Growing up, I realized that life is actually taking us somewhere else. Not where we belong. I could not even imagine how would my first visits to the wilds affect me. By the time an immense love and passion was created and all in my life I subordinated and devoted to that. By my recordings, memories and adventures I rarely remember unless someone reminds me, it is not difficult to conclude that behind me is actually a huge life experience. If there was no passion like mine, it would't be possible to withstand the challenges such accompany us all during our lives today. There I pulled the power and energy from and I do not know if there is actually any other way for a person like me. The way to the mountain. It's not easy to explain to those who do not understand and today it's more than ever so ... many do not really know what they are losing. Nature is where we all belong.
Someone said these words once so I wrote them down to remember:
"I live in a small house with her windows looking at huge world.
Every day it shapes our lives as water forms rock. Life is a journey to enjoy
and the path that best teaches us how to live is the way to the mountain".
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HRVATSKI: Od djetinjstva osjećam tu povezanost s prirodom. Pripadnost. Odrastajući, shvatio sam da nas život zapravo vodi negdje drugdje. Ne tamo gdje pripadamo.
Nisam mogao ni zamisliti koliko će moji prvi posjeti divljini utjecati na mene. Kroz vrijeme stvorena je neizmjerna ljubav i strast, a sve sam u svom životu podredio i posvetio tome. Po mojim bilješkama, uspomenama i avanturama kojih se i sam rijetko sjećam, osim ako me netko ne podsjeti, nije teško zaključiti da je iza mene zapravo ogromno životno iskustvo. Da nije bilo strasti kao što je moja, ne bi bilo moguće izdržati izazove koji nas sve prate tijekom našeg života, danas. Odatle sam vukao svu snagu i energiju i ne znam postoji li zapravo neki drugi način za osobu poput mene. Put u planinu. Nije lako objasniti onima koji ne razumiju a danas je takvih možda više nego ikad ... mnogi zapravo ne znaju što gube. Priroda je mjesto gdje svi mi jedino pripadamo.
Very wonderful return to the mountains. Once in us, the mountains never really leave. You're so right - so many need nature today. It's sad that so many ignore the natural world. I thoroughly enjoyed that film Pavle!
Nice words, indeed. Words of an experienced man with which I agree.
I am extremely glad that you liked the video and thank you very much for your comment.
Jedni od najboljih videa na youtubeu. Pogotovo izleti sa land roverom uz oblačno i kišno vrijeme. Nadam se da ih bude još.
Ove sam godine malo usporio jer zapravo nisam dovršio jedan zahtjevniji a prilično dugačak film davno započete montaže. No trebam malo terena i otvorenog pa uskoro i ponovno u brda. Uz to ima još puno toga za pripremiti pa objeviti na ovoj mreži. Hvala ti na komentaru i pozdrav.
Lep film! Tako je, res je, priroda je edino mesto kamor mi spadamo!!! Pozdrav!
Hello, Pavle ...
Your words should hear the whole world.
My childhood is a time with wild nature around me.
A short time of urban life and ... escape to nature.
Civilization loses human instincts.
Civilization destroys man and virgin nature.
Thank you for being with us with your world. 😊 Mirka from Polish Rose Valley
Lucky you. But it was quite similar with me except that I am still living in the middle of the city but in an green area that remained from the past ... family houses with usually quite big gardens but the raising city is all over around ... growing even more and more. I always used to say ... the most important detail in my life is nature. There is nothing that could change that.
Thanks Mirka, I must say again ... you are always welcome.
how always, an excellent video. I appreciate and enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Thanks John. Hope you follow my descriptions I offer under each video.
It is not as easy for me to get to the mountains but I am trying hard to continue uploading. It has been quite long since I edited the last one to be uploaded but I entered into a kind of technical troubles with my PC configuration that became obsolete. What I would like the most is to upload the long film on my experiences with wolves that needs the commentary to be added only. For most of the people who live in so called richer countries it is very easy to deal with new quality computers and all the rest of things like vehicles to realize any idea. But I got use on that and I might even say that I found the way for my passion and love even with extremely little money. My truck that serves me since 1996 now is 30 years old and I am trying hard to keep it going. Hope my son will have the opportunity to get a newer one and continue my efforts if only on his own way. I am trying to introduce him and leave him some knowledge from my own experience.
Thanks for checking my channel. You are always welcome.
Dear Pavle, these are never to be forgotten memories in the old Land Rover, going boldly where no ordinary car would dare. Facing land slides and toppled trees across your path and coming out on top. What magnificent scenery to behold whether in fog or rain. And that little snail as well as the woodpecker pecking away at a branch while you and Tin were busily chopping apart that tree. What a time you must have had. I am so glad to know that you both arrived safely with no unsolvable mishaps along the way even though Pavle had a sore knee. Yes I saw you favoring that leg while you were doing that native war dance ha ha. Hope you rested it on your return. Just the right amount of music and bird sounds to make a most enjoyable video to watch and the two cameras meshed in well also. Very.very lovely film. Big thumbs up...
ywm
It was really nice trip, indeed. How could it ever be bad? You know well what is the meaning of it for a person like I am. I didn't even mention the troubles we entered into after filming those wide open panorama shots - when Tin filmed me walking on the road (I felt quite a pain in my knee especially after long sitting in the truck). There from we decided to go home or at least closer to any village or house before the dark ... without any possible chance to change gear and with no reverse at all we managed to get home that is less than 300 km away ... all in single third gear. The gear lever locking spindle got loose what Tin repaired himself the next day ... and the truck will be ready go travel again. Hope you can understand what was my dance by the road for and how did I feel.
All in all ... another experience or I might call it adventure.
If this is the only way for me to get to the mountain I will surely go again and again. I really do not need to explain that to you.
Thanks for your nice comment. YWM
@@PavleBalenovic
Why would I watch your video again for the third time? Well for one reason because it reminds me of driving though Mt.Tremblant park alone or with my friend Pauline, either in my old Ford truck or her car and meeting much the same conditions along the road...rocks, downed trees etc and much the same topography with those massive firs on either side of the road. Pauline loved driving at night because the moose would use the roads to travel and we got to see many in the headlights of her car. I saw a moose sign while you were driving too. Mostly though I love the sense of peace I got when watching in spite of the noise that old rover was making ha ha. Driving quietly in the rain is like being in a sort of cocoon, quite cut off from the world. And always in the back of your mind, I am sure, is the chance of seeing a wolf or two.
Secondly for the situations with the axe in a kind of slo mo, trying to turn a rainy foggy trip into a fun situation. It is kind of amazing to see the trouble you went through to get your shots to really look professional by choosing different view points in which to feature your truck. If anyone takes the trouble to look, they could learn a lot.
And thirdly your shenanigans with the native dance routine..You had the sound track. All you needed was a fire, a stick and the astonished eyes of a horse to complete the scenario of Dances...very very creative, my dear. By the way I saw you favoring that knee long before the 'dances.'
But the chief thing was witnessing the comradeship between you and your son. This I believe is the most important element of that trip. Tin will remember these adventures to tell his children long after you are gone. But for now 'Live Long and Prosper.'
ywm
@@temp24Lno5 Perhaps I wanted but I do not dare to add anything more to your words. Understanding is what you selflessly supported me always with ...all these years. You surely know well what was the meaning of this trip to me. Someone will have to follow my life long efforts which as I believe are worth continuing.
Thanks for watching it again... I'd repeat that trip whenever I'd get the chance. YWM
If ever I am given the opportunity to visit any place on earth it would be here. I have felt that way since watching your channel. And continue to. I too have also felt I belong with nature. Like my ancestors. The Cherokee Indians. Thank you both for the stunning trip in the Land Rover. (Don't hurt yourself dancing silly). 32:19
It is really great to realize that the area amazes you the way you said. I spent whole my life discovering it so it is surely worth respecting. It hurts a lot if I hear that any harm is done to the nature and wildlife. At the moment all kinds of changes are happening all around. Less and less wilderness will remain. We will surely pay for that. The damage is done and the consequences can't be avoided. Seems like all the civilization is absolutely aware of these facts but nothing is done yet. It is well known that there is no care nor respect for nature as by the nations like your ancestors have had. You must really be proud.
It has been long time since I uploaded my last video but I hope I will be back on normal as before and continue with new stuff soon. Again, you are always welcome and thank you for your nice comment. (the accident on the truck and the pain in my knee made me decide to dance by the road while we stopped to rest on the long way home).
I understand.. i too feel much at home in the deep lonely woods. What great film, it shows your love for the Velebit as well as for your land rover. Beautiful shots of the fresh spring woods. Good humor too! And next time put a buck saw in the rover!😁
And oh! We got wolf pups!
www.natuurmonumenten.nl/nieuws/wolvenwelpen-gezien-op-de-veluwe
Oh yes ... the old truck has over 30 years on his back now serving me all through 22 years. It turned to be treated like a living being. Especially for it is Landrover that can easily accept all kinds of personal changes the owner makes. My son will continue with those four wheels perhaps because such an experienced truck will need no GPS to find the way for them both.
But the truth is that we had quite the accident and I had to drive through the mountains all the way home in just one gear left... the third because the gear-change lever spindle got loose that my son fixed the very next morning. This is in fact what my dancing by the road was for ... add to this the pain in my knee (motorcycle stunt in Zagreb on "Armour of God" with Jackie Chan where I broke it). Thanks for the comment.
@@spijkerpoes It is absolutely nice to see such the scene. Thanks for the link. They look lighter color to me ...compared to those of mine. Or it is just because of the camera type.
And it seems they came just a bit earlier- before the date we would expect wolf cubs in the area like our is. Mid May it is here.
I am prepared to check the bear area this month and try visiting wolves perhaps after summer for I missed to do that as I planned this winter and spring. I do not mind ... nature has its rules so the time will come for me to be there in the right moment, I am sure. It happened most of the time just this way although it often looked like coincidence.
Wow that was a amazing adventure going up the mountain , having to remove and cut a tree from the road. Thanks for taking us along with you, always enjoy your video's!
Usually it is the same each year, every spring a lot of such the obstacles are on the roads. For those who travel first it is the worse as they have to cross them all. Often you can't turn back because of the nearest petrol station is ahead and you often run off the fuel after long driving through all those roads. Winters use to be harsh with a lot of blizzards and rain storms that cause the damage on the roads.
But this is the nature and we have to enjoy it the way it is and sure, respect it as much as we can. Thanks my friend for stopping by my channel and watching. As you know well, you are always welcome.
Once again I am watching your trip to the mountains and again I discover more..how you are not afraid of standing in the rain to get that all important shot after having chosen already the best place to film, whether how the old LR negotiates turning bends in the road or splashing through a puddle. You are a true professional in wanting to get the best vantage point for your films and just the right amount of music where it was needed. I love the old bear sounds when Tin hands you your well deserved coffee. However I didn't particularly like you lifting those heavy stones on the road. I could hear your back complaining. As well the chopping of the tree but I know that didn't concern you very much. And finally a respite from the rain and fog and a little walk to enjoy the beauty of that beloved mountain. And finally the moment I have been waiting for....your Dances with Wolves enactment and the long journey home limping all the way in third gear. You were right I needed to relax myself with watching yet again those enjoyable scenes with the old LR and that beautiful mountain my dear Pavle as I recuperate from several weeks of stress.
ywm
I knew the trip like that one would help and I am very glad it did. Even I was quite amazed watching it just after I uploaded it. And more, I am still wandering who did such the perfect editing? And who continued to film the trip even under a kind of stress after the gearbox failed ... sure nothing would help better than that Dance as the prayer to God: is this all You gave us for today?
Well, I really got used even on worse but honestly, without the obstacles like these we wouldn't film an adventure like that. Again, I am very glad you enjoyed the video.
Regards from YWM.
Now, I see the wood of the tree is very hard. Takes a long time to chop it. Thanks for the scenery
I did never like to do that for wood is alive but the one like that has already been cut down.
Less and less trees remained out of danger these days. Far too much are damaged, whole woods destroyed.
Seems like we will be very sorry for that. The consequences of our unacceptable activities started to show up.
@@PavleBalenovic sad that forests are cleared so thoughtlessly. The tree you cleared was obstructing the road so had to go. I heard that trees in colder regions have harder wood so your chopping the wood showed me how hard it really is.
@@agneslee5561 You are right. I haven't heard about that nor payed attention which is harder but it might be so definitely. At least some sorts could be able to survive more cold than others. Some resist those long harsh winters in an unbelievable way. They started their growth as a small weak plant bowed to the ground while after they raise straight up. The bottom remains bowed what shows where from the strongest winds usually blow. It happens that whole the forest on the westward side of the mountain looks that way.
Hope you understood. Thanks.
@@PavleBalenovic thanks, I understand
Great vid as usual. Your son is handsome. Bless his youth.
It has been long time since I uploaded my last video. I won't say anything abut the reasons but I believe I will be here now more often for another round of videos.
Some I owe to publish as I promised the viewers before. I am glad that my son joined me ...in fact we went together as I believe he is just finding his own way to the mountain. Thank you for your nice words. You are always welcome.
Nothing can change me as you already know so I will be soon back on the same ideas even if my knee will continue hurting me as it did last months.
Thank you for reply. I hope your knee is better by now. Take fish oil since it’s good for inflammation and pain. Will forward to your videos. Stay healthy and happy.
@@heilamessy Thanks for the advice. The knee has been broken long ago when I worked on movies so it reminds me now of what kind of profession ensured my existence in fact.
Interesting movie. Awesome nature.
Best regards, Knut.
Thanks for stopping by, Knut. Hope that after quite a long period of time with no uploads on my channel, something new will show up soon . The trip on this video wasn't very pleasant by means of weather though the recent one we repeated in October was full of typical autumn colors and surprisingly clear sunny days.
We enjoyed spending few days in the mountains as it seems last days before the snow . I am glad we managed to organize that trip when it looked that won't be possible. Together with many beautiful impressions we collected quite a lot of fresh energy that will keep us fit till the next trip that will probably be in January.
Thanks for the comment.
@@PavleBalenovic
It looked pretty impossible at times, but you never gave up.
Looking forward to the next movie.
Have a nice evening.
Best regards, Knut.
respekt Pavle. Super...zadnja rečenica u tekstu je dovoljna, :) a tek ples pri kraju vide-a :):):)
To s tim plesom je zapravo zov iliti urlik zbog boli u koljenu ... kojeg nisam osjećao onda kada je čini se nastao tek sada kad su mi već nešto više godina natovarenih u ruksaku života. Slomio sam ga nekad, igrajući se igara za odrasle ...Tkalčićeva ulica u Zagrebu - motorom u auto ("Armour od God" Jackie Chan). U profesiji u kojoj nije smjelo biti bolovanja ... na taj sam način zarađivao za kruh a sve ostalo trošio na svoje ideje, strasti i ljubavi naročito prema onim ponosnim dlakavcima i divljinama u kojima su živjeli slobodno.
Lijep pozdrav i hvala ti puno na komentaru.
@@PavleBalenovic kaskader/stunt ?
@@IvicaMahulja Nikad mi to nije bilo neki prioritet naročito u odnosu na moje aktivnosti u prirodi a koje su mi zapravo ispunile čitav život a nisu mi značile ništa u smislu egzistencije.
Pavle! Are you planning to go out in the mountains for this summer?
I am, ... just as always. But the reality is usually different than planning no matter how we try the things do not happen as we would wish. I returned from the mountain just on the last day in May. Before that I haven't visited the mountains for months. Honestly summer months aren't much interesting for me because of that heat that is each year worse what makes any trip unpleasant for any body even for wildlife there. The rest of the year is I can say normal ... the only detail that I am trying not to miss is the time when bears start to show up in the open.
Usually they are in the forests where it is not quite good for filming and encounters last much shorter with less time for success in filming. In June they start to lead their cubs to the meadows when the grass becomes green.
Soon after they start turning the stones over in search for larvae what is delicious food for whole the bear family. If you notice them from distance their behavior remains natural and you can film them perfectly without any signs of fear and panic between them. This is why I will try to find some known families this month
just to count them if they are all alive and well. Then in the mid summer it becomes too hot and far to crowded on the roads because of all those tourists.
Imagine whole the EU with its 500 millions of people ... if just a small percent decide to cross our country towards their destinations what can that enormous traffic cause to those small areas with remaining wilderness (?).
This is the reason why I am avoiding any trip towards the south during summer vacations. But it can happen that if I am free, a weekend or so I can go just for a quick, short visit. Wildlife is hidden then away from the sun and resting ... taking good care not to be discovered.
@@PavleBalenovic Thank you for your news. I certainly understand your considerations and some disappointment about the human crowd crossing these areas in summer time. Ok then, I understand that basically you will avoid to go out, but that can happen somehow randomly. That's the appropriate strategy, all considered. Though, please keep me posted on your missions, if you plan some excursions for the coming months: how, why and when. I should be around Europe and I may happen to be able to join (where possible) or help you by giving visibility (provided your interest in that) to your work, or something else. Please stay tuned. Best wishes. Marco
@@marcoaddaaedc2394 I am glad that you understood me well. At the moment I really owe my younger son to show him some important spots in the mountain by means of my experiences that I would like to share with him. Who knows how long will I be able to walk that long distances to reach remote wild areas. Whole my life I wasn't able to find almost anyone who could truly follow me on my trips but my son will receive a few lessons no matter he wants that or not. He can easily find his own interest in the mountain later as he will wish. Times changed dramatically and people today do not feel the nature as we did before. Less patience and care in general they have. Should it all be offered to people clicking the ENTER tab.
You know what I mean. Still today I do not carry even a mobile phone nor GPS trying hard to be let me say "lost in the wild" and become as much as it is possible a part of it. This is how my recordings partially show.
This is the month when I must get there if only the weather and the situation with the wind allows me. You will be informed through this channel . Welcome as always and be free and to contact me. Thanks Marco.
@@PavleBalenovic I can empathise with your feelings. Thank you for sharing those other aspects of your personal life and sentiments. For sure we stay in touch, and talk more soon. Thanks Pavle.
You are sleeping while your son did the hard work at 18:55 dear Pavle.
And the woodpecker did not help him. What a pitty :-(.
Thank you for the wonderful Defender-Trip through the mountains with 2 cams Lumix GH4/5. I`m using it as well.
Did you choose that rainy days on purpose?
You didn´t find any wolves in that 2 days?
Have a fine weekend and best greetings from Germany,
Helmut
I thought someone would notice that ... but in fact he said he will do that himself alone ... small hatchet but a bit more patience and sure more time. I was only afraid for behind the next corner another fallen tree could be waiting for us. It happens each spring after all those winter storms and blizzards. Seems like no one has passed through before us what means that the wildlife remained undisturbed, too. This year I wasn't quite lucky to visit the mountains because of a few reasons but hope we will both continue the same trip further on, soon.
Wolves ? In fact I missed the right time for them, even the bears I know will soon start avoiding those meadows and openings because they are less and less green. Dry grass doesn't attract them. Thou, I still hope to be able to meet the big dark male I have seen few years ago but higher in the rocky area. Once they enter deeper into those dark forests it is not easy to be that fast on focus ring and get sharp shots. I would really like my son to be with me and see that beautiful creature. Mid summer wasn't as successful for me as the rest of the year. Besides, the tourists visit the mountains in much bigger numbers what is another problem for me and the wildlife I plan to find. You understand that well, I am sure.
Recently I partially repaired my PC and continued with editing ... and uploaded just a few videos after quite a long time. That pushed me back somehow but I will find the way to go on again. I do not believe that I will be able to edit any 4K footage soon because my configuration can't support that resolution now. The changes on this network caused another troubles and I stopped receiving notifications from quite a lot of people I contact with. But I have heard that the others experienced similar problems , too.
Hope it will all be solved soon and come to order again.
Thanks for stopping by my channel and send my regards to the fox family you must always keep in secret.
@@PavleBalenovic Yes dear Pavle, if there had been another fallen tree round the next corner … :-(
Meanwile I film in 4K too but it needs so much place on the HDD of the PC; 4 times more then before.
My Nissan Terrano now is 16 years old and I think that the next 2-year-report of the institution will say „no“ for more 2 years. But I know not the right successor that also has 4WD, great back-side-windows for filming out of the car, great inside high for long-time-waiting in car and so on …
Have a fine excursion together with your son next time and all the best, for your Defender too.
@@fuchsfilm Oh yes, things are changing. Most great products are gone once for ever especially filming devices and trucks that were even easy to be repaired at home. No need to recall the days when that digital picture quality started raising ... especially the format compression that went so far high that software simply couldn't support it in editing. But this new technology became affordable for many enthusiasts ...allowed and enabled the people like we are to finalize the "projects" we worked on, ourselves alone. I remember how It was impossible even to imagine when I was a kid when I started dreaming about forests, mountains and animals especially. I am glad that I managed to spend quite a lot of time and years dealing with them. That gives me the biggest satisfaction no matter what troubles I had to pass through the life. In my soul I feel myself happy just because of that. I am sure you understand that well. Through the time I got some companions that followed my way, some living some made of metal ... like those trucks that we relied on all over the time. That old Defender served me more than well so I can at least guess what your 16 years old car means to you. Long ago I spent some time in the mountains with a good old friend from Wales ... he was amazed of the environment, the wilderness and surprised what the old truck managed to pass through ... besides that white truck used to be our home in the wild ... at least for awhile. He named it "The White Rhino" and still often sends me the message:
"Take care dear friend and give the old White Rhino a pat for me, surely a wonderful vehicle which must have covered many thousands of miles". No need for any more words. Tin, my son, he is going to continue listening that noisy engine that speaks about the adventures with his father through so many years.
Enjoy your next trip and take care my friend.
@@PavleBalenovic Thanks for your encouraging words my friend. Yes, you are right. The nature and the wildlife animals give so much power to us that, even in hard times, we can enjoy in mind of passed adventures. The video camera help us to fix some special moments which we can admire, when we are so old that we cann´t leave home :-(.
Have a fine evening and take care to you and your White Rhyno, dear Pavle ♥.
Man, I love my chainsaw!
In fact I had a lot of chances to be sorry for not taking the saw ... but it seams almost the same as taking the gun. You can guess what I mean ... often even the camera looked aggressive and there were times when I almost decided not to take it and use ever again. When you start to respect the nature the way I do now you wouldn't like to take anything away from it, flower, plant ... not even the photography. A lot of information about the location I have to keep secret for there are people who can use them and make harm to wildlife. Blocked road like the one that stopped us says that the nature there remained in peace for some time ... at least from fall, through whole the winter till the end of May when we appeared.
A chainsaw is a pretty brutal, noisy thing, it’s true. And there is a lot to be said for treading lightly and only using hand tools. You never run out of fuel, either! I know what you mean about the camera, I was in the forest in Wales once and a huge buzzard landed on a branch right in front of where I was sitting. My heart nearly stopped. I thought to reach for my ‘phone to take a picture, but I just couldn’t do it. Instead I just experienced the moment, seeing the bird for the full moment until it flew away. Only recorded in my memory. It was the best decision.
I understand that very well. I used to deal with wolves through quite a big part of my life and as it started to be pretty interesting from the beginning I decided to film at least some details. But then it turned to be something that is offered only to me what I realized when the bonding with that wolf pack became far too strong. I started to hate the camera and the way I used to behave... imagine a visit to a friend whom you haven't seen for long time and you stop the embracing asking ...wait I'll only set the camera to film this ... this is what I experienced with wolves although they allowed me to do that but was it OK from me? I didn't have the right to film such the details ... besides do the people really have to know all the secrets about wildlife and nature? It was enough for me ... no more filming. ...then I almost decided not to take my camera ever again. But then as I was aware that such the things won't happen ever again I continued "saving" those adventures on tape for to remember. Some of them are now uploaded here and published.
I’ve watched a lot of your wolf material. I love it, it’s amazing. An amazing story.
@@solarbuduk Thanks for watching. You are always welcome.
da li je uopce paljen reduktor
Zapravo nije osim koliko se sjećam, na onom divljem usponu do jednog od mjesta gdje smo noćili.
Inače, velebitske su ceste danas prikladne i za najobičnije osobno vozilo osim naravno neke kutke divljine gdje ima i blata i kamena i strmina...
no u takve sam se prostore znao uputiti radije pješice jer ne treba baš autom doći na vrh ili slično. Zima s obiljem snijega naravno sasvim je druga priča.
Takav, dovoljno velki terenac često je najbolje rješenje ako čovjek nema svoj vlastiti planinarski dom ili sklonište.
Subscribed to your channel. Let's be friends? I also run a channel about animals. Naturalists must support each other!
You are right, absolutely. Thanks for the sub.
Happy New Year and good luck.
Zasto je volan na desnos strani?
Misliš na "krivoj" strani?
To je vozilo i rađeno za zemlje u kojima voze krivom stranom.
Mi, srećom vozimo pravom.
Šalim se ,,, takav je nađen i onda kupljen ovdje..