I absolutely agree with what you were saying at the beginning of the video. I think when renfri is nerfed everyone's just going to complain about the new scenarios, even at the start if this season people were already saying knights were too strong before renfri was fully figured out
I think the thing with Knights is that they have ALOT of points but if they ever do get played enough to be t1, the SY poison list beats them so hard the playrate drops anyway. We'll soon find out I guess!
@@evilotis01 it will do. Engine decks will always suffer to control lists with tall punish sadly. It's not unwinnable but definitely unfavoured and much tougher!
yeah, i came back to the game after a while away and started out from rank 25 again-got slaughtered by all the Renfri decks until i settled on the idea of playing a similar deck to this one, and it's been gravy ever since. i did include Ihuarraquax, tho, just for the pure joy of occasionally pulling someone's Renfri and watching them forfeit instantly :D
I'm trying to play this but I'm getting absolutely hammered by all the NG Renfri decks even when I go for the 2-0. So many of them are still running Heatwave so I end up down a card in round 3 while they still have their 2nd Renfri
I haven't seen a single Renfri heatwave deck anywhere this season in hundreds of games that is so weird. 😶 NG have been pretty easy fodder honestly, you occasionally lose to Renfri high rolls but that's effectively Gwent right now 😂
Gave it a try! First game. MO Thrive Renfri plus Yrden and Igni. Sh….! Second game. NG Opponent First Card Kingslayer high roll into scenario. Game Three. MO Triple Madoc plus Yrden. Wins 0 Losses 3. I guess I shouldn’t play Gwent today.
@@LionHartCards I guess he played against you. Never saw this before. And I was so happy to pull his Yrden in Round One. If there is a hard counter to a deck you can be sure I will find it immediately. 🤷🏻♂️
I tried this deck when this expansion dropped and got Yrdened 3 matches in a row and got so ticked off that I stopped playing it lol. It's strong if your opponent doesn't have ton of control or yrden but yeah.
Looks like Ren will be nerfed in a decent fashion. First time in Gwent history only one card dedicated a fully short play meta. And the problem is, it’s so flexible basically. In terms of committing value this card is nuts in any timing. Hope CDPR is noticing such…
Thanks for sharing this deck - and the tutorial on gameplay. Knights are really my style of play, but I was having trouble with consistency (mainly because I'm a fan of Dandelion and Odo and was really trying to get them to work in the Knights scheme). I may eventually take this deck and craft a hybrid with my other Knights deck to see if I can get Dandy and Odo to work.
This has been my favourite deck to play against this season. Haven't lost a single game against this deck. It's almost unfair for this deck to play against Nilfagard, it's too easy for Philippe Van Moorlehem
Watching this vid today, seven months later, and the "there're no heatwaves in the meta" line made me laugh. I feel like my scenarios get heatwaved *twice* per game. At least! Also, I thought I was the only one who tutors for cards already in hand, glad to see that I'm not lol
U must win round one at any cost to beat this deck. Then just bait the opponent to play the scenerio 2nd round and just pass on their face .trust me without scenerio and longer round this deck falls apart(even if u have 1 card less)
I've been playing against 15 plus renfri decks a day. I cannot do this anymore XD I'm gonna try this and see if I can at least put my siege engines and self wound away
I was really surprised how well this handled the overall meta. Beat Siege & self wound on my run. That horrible midrange ST wincons list is tough and that comes down to draws sometimes but yeah 🧐
@@juanpilicioso4723 deck building is really fun when you start diving into it. I always enjoy watching Shinmiri discuss the way decks are built and why when he analyses lists.
As much as I don't like to admit it, b/c normally I feel Nr is pretty boring, I actually have fun playing knights and I don't even have all the key cards to the more popular decks. Also, Draug is a knight FYI...
Thanks for this! NR Knights just wasn't clicking for me for whatever reason but this video helped a lot. Also, I don't have Aerondight so what alternatives would you recommend to fit that 10p slot? I was thinking either Heatwave or Muzzle for control, but given how tall units get this patch Heatwave might be the better option?
This is exactly why I took Aerondight, the 10p slot needs something and Aerondight is very frequently triple the points of Heatwave/Muzzle right now plus it makes it much easier to run Lady of the Lake as it's another echo! Heatwave over Muzzle this meta though I think, just
Is there a reason the games you played don't match up with what you included in the list you posted on this video?? Just wondering, not a problem at all
I saw Entropy playing that list. Definitely a power house. I was looking for fun lists that can win without Renfri with this list. I felt we were all a bit Renfri'd out this season 😉
@@LionHartCards i totally agree with you everyone is abusing renfri this season especially that goddamn ng deck lol ...i even see renfri in my dreams hahaha
It out greeds almost anything for a 2:0 if you develop your engines correctly but SY is lethal for it as I said in the video yeah. Easy 100+ points in a long round. Winnable if you play well and adapt rather than just mindlessly jamming cards but definitely unfavoured.
Yrden would definitely hurt this deck. Thankfully it doesn't make sense to run it this meta really as it won't find value in most matchups outside of this really. Not been Yrdened once in 50 matches. Igni's everywhere though!
I absolutely agree with what you were saying at the beginning of the video. I think when renfri is nerfed everyone's just going to complain about the new scenarios, even at the start if this season people were already saying knights were too strong before renfri was fully figured out
I think the thing with Knights is that they have ALOT of points but if they ever do get played enough to be t1, the SY poison list beats them so hard the playrate drops anyway. We'll soon find out I guess!
@@LionHartCards yeah my knights deck got owned pretty hard by an interesting poison-heavy NG deck
@@evilotis01 it will do. Engine decks will always suffer to control lists with tall punish sadly.
It's not unwinnable but definitely unfavoured and much tougher!
yeah, i came back to the game after a while away and started out from rank 25 again-got slaughtered by all the Renfri decks until i settled on the idea of playing a similar deck to this one, and it's been gravy ever since. i did include Ihuarraquax, tho, just for the pure joy of occasionally pulling someone's Renfri and watching them forfeit instantly :D
I'm trying to play this but I'm getting absolutely hammered by all the NG Renfri decks even when I go for the 2-0. So many of them are still running Heatwave so I end up down a card in round 3 while they still have their 2nd Renfri
I haven't seen a single Renfri heatwave deck anywhere this season in hundreds of games that is so weird. 😶
NG have been pretty easy fodder honestly, you occasionally lose to Renfri high rolls but that's effectively Gwent right now 😂
Gave it a try! First game. MO Thrive Renfri plus Yrden and Igni. Sh….! Second game. NG Opponent First Card Kingslayer high roll into scenario. Game Three. MO Triple Madoc plus Yrden. Wins 0 Losses 3. I guess I shouldn’t play Gwent today.
Renfri + Igni & Yrden?! Who hurt your opponent? >.
@@LionHartCards I guess he played against you. Never saw this before. And I was so happy to pull his Yrden in Round One.
If there is a hard counter to a deck you can be sure I will find it immediately. 🤷🏻♂️
Really good deck again. Deffo a good tip to swap Crystal for TA AS This combined with leader can unlock bronwen instantly
"This deck's busted!"
Hold my Yrden
Ok, will watch this, then sleep
Ah finally a new deck, have been playing handbuff for the last 3 weeks, I need something new from the Gwent machine 🙏
This list will definitely be the one then!
Avoid poison SY and you're gold.
It's scary!
@@LionHartCards definitely looks like it ! I'll let you know in your next video how I managed ;)
I love that Bronwen is a Scouser.
I tried this deck when this expansion dropped and got Yrdened 3 matches in a row and got so ticked off that I stopped playing it lol.
It's strong if your opponent doesn't have ton of control or yrden but yeah.
Looks like Ren will be nerfed in a decent fashion. First time in Gwent history only one card dedicated a fully short play meta. And the problem is, it’s so flexible basically. In terms of committing value this card is nuts in any timing. Hope CDPR is noticing such…
Thanks for sharing this deck - and the tutorial on gameplay. Knights are really my style of play, but I was having trouble with consistency (mainly because I'm a fan of Dandelion and Odo and was really trying to get them to work in the Knights scheme). I may eventually take this deck and craft a hybrid with my other Knights deck to see if I can get Dandy and Odo to work.
This has been my favourite deck to play against this season. Haven't lost a single game against this deck. It's almost unfair for this deck to play against Nilfagard, it's too easy for Philippe Van Moorlehem
Watching this vid today, seven months later, and the "there're no heatwaves in the meta" line made me laugh. I feel like my scenarios get heatwaved *twice* per game. At least! Also, I thought I was the only one who tutors for cards already in hand, glad to see that I'm not lol
U must win round one at any cost to beat this deck. Then just bait the opponent to play the scenerio 2nd round and just pass on their face .trust me without scenerio and longer round this deck falls apart(even if u have 1 card less)
There are tons of other ways to beat this deck too.
@@g3nj1 A couple efficient ways, in my experience, is to play any SK deck against it.
Knights is really fun to play. Nice vid Lion Hart
Also the vid is too quite, perhaps upping the volume a bit or using something different, non-gwent
I've been playing against 15 plus renfri decks a day. I cannot do this anymore XD I'm gonna try this and see if I can at least put my siege engines and self wound away
I was really surprised how well this handled the overall meta.
Beat Siege & self wound on my run.
That horrible midrange ST wincons list is tough and that comes down to draws sometimes but yeah 🧐
Been my experience. When i lose it’s been bad draws or 4-5 renfris in a game😂 but I’m at least happy I’ve been trying my own deck building
@@juanpilicioso4723 deck building is really fun when you start diving into it.
I always enjoy watching Shinmiri discuss the way decks are built and why when he analyses lists.
@@LionHartCards does he have a video explaining? Or is it on his stream? I definitely need help because I feel I’m losing out on being good at it
Also thanks for replying! Don’t mean to intrude
Thanks for the video Lionhart renfri definitely getting boring now
Always nice to try and explore other options. Renfri is definitely not going anywhere without some changes but doesn't mean we don't have other tools!
As much as I don't like to admit it, b/c normally I feel Nr is pretty boring, I actually have fun playing knights and I don't even have all the key cards to the more popular decks.
Also, Draug is a knight FYI...
its funny the best knight engine R1 isnt a knight
Thanks for this! NR Knights just wasn't clicking for me for whatever reason but this video helped a lot. Also, I don't have Aerondight so what alternatives would you recommend to fit that 10p slot? I was thinking either Heatwave or Muzzle for control, but given how tall units get this patch Heatwave might be the better option?
heatwave for renfri
This is exactly why I took Aerondight, the 10p slot needs something and Aerondight is very frequently triple the points of Heatwave/Muzzle right now plus it makes it much easier to run Lady of the Lake as it's another echo! Heatwave over Muzzle this meta though I think, just
Is there a reason the games you played don't match up with what you included in the list you posted on this video?? Just wondering, not a problem at all
Because I posted the wrong link! Great spot!
@@LionHartCards forgot to say before, great deck, excited to give it a try, love NR knights!!
What card back is that and how can I get it?
Lion Hart is King Arthur 😜
i prefer renfri + siege engines it's hell of dmg with zeal leader ability and 2 duel cards hehehehe an evil deck 😈😈🔥
I saw Entropy playing that list. Definitely a power house.
I was looking for fun lists that can win without Renfri with this list. I felt we were all a bit Renfri'd out this season 😉
@@LionHartCards i totally agree with you everyone is abusing renfri this season especially that goddamn ng deck lol ...i even see renfri in my dreams hahaha
The only way you can make up for not giving us content is to do a bathtub stream
This isn't even strongest in long round. Salamandra SY kinda fucks this so much.
It out greeds almost anything for a 2:0 if you develop your engines correctly but SY is lethal for it as I said in the video yeah. Easy 100+ points in a long round.
Winnable if you play well and adapt rather than just mindlessly jamming cards but definitely unfavoured.
@@LionHartCards also rain SK cucks you. It's so good Into this meta
They are so great until someone slaps you with yrden
My Yrden want to say Hi.
Yrden would definitely hurt this deck. Thankfully it doesn't make sense to run it this meta really as it won't find value in most matchups outside of this really. Not been Yrdened once in 50 matches. Igni's everywhere though!
damn...yu're so slowly
This deck suuuuuucks.