Sonos Arc with four Era 300s and two Subs ... Nakamichi Dragon Slayer?

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024

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  • @davewoodsmusic
    @davewoodsmusic Před rokem +29

    I did this when the 300s first appeared and even mentioned this configuration to several "influencers" needless to say I got rinsed in the Sonos forums and several CZcams comment threads, I think it sounds great.
    Well done for bringing this setup to a wider audience.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +11

      They all live in that judgment tower in my video

    • @AtlantaJonny
      @AtlantaJonny Před 9 měsíci +3

      I had the same idea but not brave enough to ask the forums because I knew about the ivory tower of judgement.

    • @TooEasyMal
      @TooEasyMal Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@AtlantaJonny I took the hit lol. I actually ended up learning some things

  • @musicvideos4536
    @musicvideos4536 Před rokem +12

    You suggested a while back that Sonos make rear upward firing speakers and here we are with the 300s. Maybe Sonos is listening and will make this a config as well. Great vids, keep them coming.

  • @arniesilverberg764
    @arniesilverberg764 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I am a tremendous fan of your communication style! Much appreciative of your combination of tech and humor shared in a very understandable and absorbable fashion. I was most interested in this combination of SONOS gear as my home theatre set up gets a similar unconventional boost (though with less impact and sophistication). I am running an Arc, a gen 1 and gen 3 sub, along with 2 era 300’s utilized as surrounds. Up front, along with a required connect, I have two powered Emotiva powered speakers along with an Audioengine sub. As for replacing the latter with a pair of 300’s…

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 10 měsíci +1

      There’s a lot of pressure to make something like this happen from Sonos fans -- hopefully Sonos does the cool thing

  • @klaymoon1
    @klaymoon1 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Great review! I hope Sonos will release a package with five Era 300s with two subs.

  • @805izz
    @805izz Před rokem +18

    When Sonos allows this setup I would definitely buy four 300’s… for now I’m staying put with my Ones as they’re doing a great job. As for the Dragon, it may sound better but what I absolutely love about Sonos is that I can take my Ones and subwoofer outside to play music for parties and get togethers. The sound is amazing and the Arc does a great job on its own playing music and movies… the versatility of Sonos is bar none.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Why wouldn't sonus allow it? Didn't Daniel do just that in the video?

    • @ghostpimp
      @ghostpimp Před 7 měsíci

      LMAO exactly what i was thinking@@michael-4k4000

  • @gsotelo1053
    @gsotelo1053 Před 11 měsíci +23

    Sonos, people are literally begging you to let them give you more money, all it takes is one update, you will be the undisputed champion in soundbar home theater systems and multi room audio. With 4 Era 300s, arc, and dual subs, I think not even the dragon could match it.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 11 měsíci +3

      I think the dragon wins in pure force but a coordinated Sonos wEra300 up front system would take the spatial audio 👑

    • @Stevo19801
      @Stevo19801 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I have been asking for years, they need to introduce an AV amp that will support up to 11 channels, they as a user you can use it what ever you want to fill those discrete channels

  • @squashbeatszw
    @squashbeatszw Před rokem +28

    Interesting set up man. Sonos really needs to look into support for multiple speakers.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +12

      As far as I can tell it opens up a path for more money and esteem in this space. If I were CEO …

    • @memphus
      @memphus Před 11 měsíci +2

      There must be some technical limitation? There is no other explanation I can think of. It's money on the table.

  • @Mr_Latte_UK
    @Mr_Latte_UK Před rokem +10

    Its crazy that Sonos do not let users use the BEAM with front era 300 for front stereo and height channels....
    Ive been really impressed with stereo 300 and sub with music.

    • @ChrisTonge
      @ChrisTonge Před rokem

      Just out of interest which Sub are you using?

  • @martinkern8122
    @martinkern8122 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I finally picked up the Ht-A9 with the sub 5. It was on sale, 30% off. I am very happy with it´s immersive sound.

  • @benmacmahon8280
    @benmacmahon8280 Před rokem +7

    Awesome video Daniel, thanks for taking the time to put this together. What are your thoughts on the best physical positioning for the 300's as rear and front? How high or low and away from walls and ceilings would place the 300's? How did you manage to pair the 300's with the Arc for the front channel? Keep up the good, always enjoy your videos.

    • @BORICUACHANNEL
      @BORICUACHANNEL Před rokem +2

      Im wondering the same thing 😮

    • @fonkenful
      @fonkenful Před rokem +3

      Wouldn’t the Dolby Labs Atmos guidelines help you out there? The room size /shape / acoustic properties and number of prime listening positions would certainly need to be included in the calculus. Of course much I’d what I’ve been reading from said documentation seems to be predicated on discrete direct radiating speakers, each located at specified narrow range of hemispheric degrees from listening position, with acoustic treatment to mitigate the type of reflections that systems such as these use to achieve their spacial effects, so different “rules” / considerations apply.
      My son has a fairly basic ARC + single sub and single pair of ceiling mounted Klipsch speakers powered by a Sonos amp. When he was prewiring during a recent major reno, I tried unsuccessfully to convince him that 4 overheads would be better for the size of the room, but was over-ruled by SWMBO, and simply put, not all folks are as devoted to getting the best performance the room might allow. The open floor plan of living/dining room/kitchen makes for a great venue for social entertainment, but doesn’t allow for discrete surrounds so this was the best compromise he could attain.

  • @thehonestman26
    @thehonestman26 Před rokem +4

    I might be interested if they would let you use the 300s as fronts. I had the Arc, two 5s, and two subs, and it was good but not great, in my opinion. I was really impressed by the subs, but the Arc wasn't enough to fill the space. The sound wasn't wide enough, and I always knew the sound was coming from the soundbar. I also found the system to be far better for movies than music, which surprised me. Allowing a right and a left might have been enough for me to keep it, but I didn't. I enjoyed the convenience but always felt I was trading sound quality for convenience, which doesn't work for me.
    I agree the A9s allowed you width, and I enjoyed the sound, but I thought the sub was really a weak link and would have loved a center. If I could combine the two systems and have used the Sonos subs with the A9s, I would have been happy. So I think both systems are really close but not there yet.
    I was hoping Sennheiser was going to add surrounds to the Ambeo, but they never went there, which I think is a shame. They were on the doorstep of a killer system and could have made a real impact on this segment. I'm curios if the Dragon is the system I was hoping Sennheiser to be. Going to check it out when I can. For now, however, I will have to continue to run wires to achieve the sound I'm looking for.

  • @ZacJ6
    @ZacJ6 Před rokem +1

    been waiting for this one for a while, thanks!

  • @kentucky4696
    @kentucky4696 Před 14 dny

    Hopefully the arc2 launch will finally make them want to support front and rear surrounds.

  • @manutejsharmaarrojwala2769

    I have independently arrived at your chaotic idea, and your video only supports my thesis. Only a few more chaotic decisions away haha

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      I do feel a little bad that you suffer from my same thought processes

  • @rafograph854
    @rafograph854 Před 15 dny

    this exercise got me curious so I got a Five to use as an unofficial center channel, grouped with Arc (fixed on the wall), 2 Eras 300 and sub gen 1: for me the fives as center is just perfect, it adds a lot! The only problem is that with the recente Dune 4K Blu-ray I need to keep the volume at max 25 to not blow the room!

  • @bogdanem
    @bogdanem Před rokem +2

    Hahahhaha best one so far Daniel, that is insane Alice in wonderland borderline hardcore sound club 😂
    Had no idea you can group and this is dangerous for me as I thought I topped my small room with arc sub gen3 and fives rear…oh no, here we go again 😂

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +2

      Well you can group as many speakers as you want (but you can only pair two 300 rears) - I thought an extra two 300s was worth trying out. But theoretically I could group even more 300s - though I wouldn’t want to be ridiculous

    • @bogdanem
      @bogdanem Před rokem +1

      @@neverenoughtech i get that and sure makes sense for the user case, too bad Sonos is not allowing pairing and merging the front L/R channels with the arcs…. Still you figured it out, with tinkering you got a feel of it and you opened the possibility for me as well, one beer from me!

  • @waynecutting
    @waynecutting Před 3 měsíci

    I was super excited to watch this because I was wondering how such a configuration would work

  • @Braconara1981
    @Braconara1981 Před rokem +1

    Super stuff as usual, really cool experiment, well done!

  • @michaelhawkins1173
    @michaelhawkins1173 Před měsícem

    Well done for exploring your idea and sharing the outcome.
    For me, having watched your reviews, I believe if your idea did not work for you, you would have shared that also.
    2 things: How close are your neighbours?
    How much space do you need to experience a "spacial sound"?
    Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed it very much.

  • @maciusxd392
    @maciusxd392 Před měsícem

    I am opting for Arc + 2 Sub gen3 + 2 Era 300 as base for home theater + 2 Move placed in the the middle of the ”scene” in my living room on both sides as additional L and R channel

  • @HPMIKE55
    @HPMIKE55 Před rokem +2

    Great job and yes I think your right but I’m still waiting on the dragon 🐉 to out . Lol 😎👍

  • @mrgold3591
    @mrgold3591 Před rokem +3

    I have the Arc, dual sub, and Fives are rear surrounds. I'm waiting and wishing Sonos would update its app to allow additional speakers to the home theater group to compete with the Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 set-up. I had some extra Symfonisk bookshelf speakers and I tried the same thing of adding them to the front on either side of the Arc. It sounded great; but, it was too much work adjusting and tweaking the Symfonisk to sound just right with every volume change or with different streaming or cable TV 5.1/Atmos content.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      Yeah, I mentioned it’s a lot of work a few times due to level changing necessities … and really only suited in experimental spaces. Nonetheless I though two extra 300s. Was too tempting to not at least explore.

    • @mrgold3591
      @mrgold3591 Před rokem +1

      @@neverenoughtech I ended up keeping my two Roams connected to my Arc system and moving the Symfonisk to another room with a Beam Gen 1. One Roam is in the kitchen for extra audio for listening to the news. The other Roam next to my primary listening position for at night when I don't want to keep the whole house up with Arc/dual sub/Five set-up.

  • @amanbat1151
    @amanbat1151 Před 6 měsíci

    I grouped a pair of Sonos one with Arc and then tested them as front channels using a 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos audio test file. The Ones are playing regardless of what channels is a playing in the video except for the LFE channel. The Ones even played the height channel sound. So this setup will obviously not work if widening the front soundstage (for the front channel only) is the goal.

  • @arn287
    @arn287 Před 23 dny

    Hello Daniel
    That was really something to try
    But readding some comments you didn’t go far enough
    You could have paired with the front 2 eras 300 grouped with the home theater : 2 sub gen3
    For a total of 4 subs
    Imagine how low it could hit
    How smooth the frequency response
    But only if there is no delay between the two set up

  • @504cool
    @504cool Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this video. I didn’t realize you could play Sonos speakers in groups like that.
    I’m sure various speaker groupings could be used besides for the Era 300’s.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      Yes you can group as many as you want. Pairing is where the constraint is

  • @epap1375
    @epap1375 Před rokem +4

    Great video you got a new follower ! I just got the era 300’s to replace my rear ones. Do you think it would be worth trying the ones as front wide speakers? They’re going to collect dust otherwise

    • @MrFerbis
      @MrFerbis Před rokem

      This is the exact situation I’m going through I also want to put my old Ones in front hope we’ll get a comment. Cheers!

    • @freddyk6535
      @freddyk6535 Před rokem +1

      I added my play ones to the front. It did widen the sound I am now going to place them in my room and add the 300s to the front.

    • @limpty
      @limpty Před 6 měsíci

      Same situation for me

    • @Alex-tm5oz
      @Alex-tm5oz Před 5 měsíci

      Yeup... Me too... 💚🍀🇮🇪
      We clearly have too much money... Lol

  • @CanIHaveFriesWithThat
    @CanIHaveFriesWithThat Před rokem +1

    Love the content, bro. I am in the market for a new soundbar. I got a heap of 4k blu rays so the Sonos not having dts:x is a deal breaker, which is a shame. All reviews of the Sonos Arc are solid. A few years back I started with an LG soundbar and returned because of the poor dialogue, I replaced it with a Samsung that lasted just under 2 years. Might have to try Sony but the reviews are up and down on the hta7000, not to mention its gloss top. Anyhow love the channel man.

  • @penrith50
    @penrith50 Před rokem +1

    Great vid. My ideal would be the Beam as centre channel with two front 300's and two 100's at the rear, and a single sub. I would have said 300's at rear, but your observation about their main speaker going silent in this config seems to me to make them no better than 100's as a rear .

    • @fuyaokevin
      @fuyaokevin Před rokem +3

      ERA100 has no up firing, so ERA300 should still be better in terms of ATMOS.

    • @JohnKimbler
      @JohnKimbler Před rokem +1

      With four speakers creating an Atmos bubble that center speaker isn’t needed, and would probably not add anything to the rear surround. I have an Arc, gen 3 sub, and a pair of Era 300s for the rear surround pair and the Atmos sound bubble is nuts!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +4

      No the era 300s are really great as rears - I mentioned best rear speaker you can get. It’s not obvious based on normal listening that it doesn’t play it just speaks to even more potential not being tapped. You definitely want the 300s in back and the 100s in front so both front and back have height capabilities

  • @seanquigley3624
    @seanquigley3624 Před rokem

    Volume set in the app maintains its position, remote only moves arc volume.
    I am using a Port with some expensive amp and speakers, does a great job.

  • @1WheelEJ
    @1WheelEJ Před rokem +1

    Dude, your hillariius😂! Great video!

  • @waltkuiland9341
    @waltkuiland9341 Před rokem +2

    Great video! I have the Arc setup with the sub and two Play 3’s. My 300’s are due next week and I had been wondering if grouping a second pair (my Play 3’s) would be crazy. So I’m gonna try and see how that works out based on your try at using your old Play Ones. Thank you.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      It’s definitely worth a try if you have the hardware

    • @lorenzohardy5212
      @lorenzohardy5212 Před rokem

      Do it. Do it.

    • @steveholds2844
      @steveholds2844 Před rokem

      How is it with the 3’s as surrounds as I’ve got a pair knocking about just about to buy the arc in the next week or so

  • @mustafahussain3972
    @mustafahussain3972 Před rokem +1

    Please do a step by step set up guide for this configuration absolutely fantastic video by the way

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      Second half of this video: Sonos Pairing & Grouping Explained
      czcams.com/video/nSTVcVYHfRs/video.html

  • @TheGirlSkateBoardCo
    @TheGirlSkateBoardCo Před rokem +1

    Dude, idk. This video deff is intriguing. However, the dragon is beast. Keep in mind it’s 4 8” sub drivers. I’m excited once the dragon makes it in the wild.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      It really all hinges on the importance of the front separation and the notion that the dragon is gonna have just an excessive amount of headroom that would be a little damaging hearing wise to access … but yeah, we’ll see … the dragon is a lot cheaper too

  • @williamsc025
    @williamsc025 Před 8 měsíci

    My setup is Arc, Sub Gen 3, two Ones as Front pair, and two Era 300’s as rear pairs!

  • @4fastdrs
    @4fastdrs Před 11 měsíci

    If Sonos makes this a reality, I would 100% be a buyer @ $3,499! 11.2.6 support needs to happen. Asap Like before this christmas holiday season. 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾

  • @DillonBlair
    @DillonBlair Před rokem

    Interesting video for sure. I was able to pre order the dragon and I’m eagerly awaiting my shipping notice. 😀

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      SB spirits looked upon you favorably giving you an actionable purchase button

    • @MrBjorn6
      @MrBjorn6 Před rokem

      It wasn't that difficult to get a purchase button IMHO you just kept pressing the button for 9 straight minutes once it went life

    • @DillonBlair
      @DillonBlair Před rokem

      @@neverenoughtech It was pretty difficult. It said sold out after the first few minutes of trying, then went back to preorder, then just opened up another page. Really didn’t expect that many people would be preordering.

  • @manindershahi9499
    @manindershahi9499 Před 8 měsíci

    Just set it up to great effect 🙏🏼 ..
    thought of one-upping u with a 3rd sub.. a sub mini (didn’t have a sub to spare) attached to the second pair of era 300s of d front soundstage.. phenomenal
    Much appreciated
    Inspiring
    Have subscribed 🙏🏼

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Wow yeah a sub paired with the stereo pair - my imagination didn’t extend that far. Appreciate the support!

    • @giancarlogargiulo5875
      @giancarlogargiulo5875 Před 7 měsíci

      I would like to know from zero to ten what would be your judgment State regarding this 4 ERA and complete system, really curious about

  • @ruialex314
    @ruialex314 Před rokem +2

    Did not expect this configuration hehe, it really does open up a lot of possibilities , I’m still sad this system isn’t “better” than the Sony or the Q990B, I think it’s a huge leap compared to having the ones as surrounds, everything changed to me and it can sometimes be too distracting, I find myself paying more attention to the sound than the movie, I do agree with you that the left and right sound is lacking a bit but that’s probably due to room layout aswell maybe you have more space so you need more power to the sides, maybe sonos could let us raise the left and right volume? It’s been a couple of years I don’t think they will, add channels officially maybe …thanks for the video always fun and informative !
    Edit: this video had me realize I have extra two ones sitting around in two rooms…maybe I’ll connect them to this system and have a poor man’s version of yours 😂

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +2

      👍 - want to clarify (as I can’t tell how you interpreted) that what I reviewed I deemed more capable than the B and A9. At the end when I discussed the arc system without the extra front speakers - I felt perhaps it was not the best SB system on a pure sound front. Yeah give the 100s addition a shot if they’re sitting around doing nothing.

  • @ccdccd8615
    @ccdccd8615 Před rokem

    Since we are talking about over the top stuff, you may want to consider the Isoaccoustics Aperture 300 for the center channel. Saw a review on CZcams on their products. The reviewer was not terribly impressed by the feet for the sub or speakers, but said the Aperta made an audible improvement for the center channel. Just got it and my initial impression is that it does improve the clarity of dialogue coming out of the center channel. Not sure this is due to decoupling or the raising if the sound bar 3” over the cabinet on which is rests or both.

  • @keith692
    @keith692 Před 2 měsíci

    A more even sound would be doing this, but not stacking two subs with the arc system, instead spread them out with one sub for the arc system and one sub for the two eras 300's upfront. The sound is absolutely incredible. I'm wondering how this pairs with the new sony bravia home theatre QUAD system.

  • @maitraysharma8389
    @maitraysharma8389 Před rokem

    My man at it again!!

  • @Abakaschi
    @Abakaschi Před rokem +1

    I have the Sony HT-A9, loving it. I miss dual-sub and the more clear-neutral sounding Sonos speakers for listening to music.
    How would you rate the Sonos with 4x ERA300 to the Sony HT-A9??
    I recommend doing more videos featuring your Sonos hack. Thumbs up for this one!
    Compare it in detail to other systems. Compare it with itself using the Sonos PLY5 instead of the ERA300 in the front. Test music & ATMOS.
    If the diff between this hack vs Sony HT-A9 is substantial, I might switch back to Sonos.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      I initially tested the fives up front … but sensed the 300s would draw more interest … the 300s contributed more to the spatial element. I’d take my experimental setup over the A9, though the Sonos setup can be a bit more wild … need to spend a little extra time with the Sonos system finding the right sound

  • @lordraf5255
    @lordraf5255 Před rokem +1

    I totally disagree with the final statement. I indeed purchased Sony HT-A9 as thought it will be best with my Sony A95k but decided to return it. We bought the ARC set and are amazed how great it plays. Worth mentioning I was using Bose 700 before. I personally stay with Sonos.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      Did you pair the A9 with the sub - it’s pretty bad without that? Also I use it in a very open space

    • @lordraf5255
      @lordraf5255 Před rokem

      @@neverenoughtech yes I did. It simply was not “strong” enough and I experienced disconnections. Also worth mentioning that the sub from Sonos seems to play better, “clearer”

  • @lac19951
    @lac19951 Před rokem +1

    Great review. But i suggest waiting for the dragon haha.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      It’s hard to wait when you’re in a blind rage … but yes probably a good idea

  • @johnshepherd2666
    @johnshepherd2666 Před 18 dny

    A fanticiful watch ...we viewers with limited resources usually invest in one platform....(.multiple speakers) & cannot afford to duplicate a different brand just because it might offer better voice delivery or a deeper sound with explosions ..but we watch these videos to justify the $1000's we have already spent 😅😅😅😅

  • @ccdccd8615
    @ccdccd8615 Před rokem +1

    This video has appeal for many of us in the Sonos ecosphere. I was tempted by the Dragon and would probably have gotten it if I were buying a premium sound bar from scratch. However, I own the Arc and 2 Sonos subs. I also had Sonos 1s as rear channels which I thought were pretty worthless. My wallet clearly dictated replacing the 1s with 300s as rear channels for around $1,000 as opposed to spending $3,500 on the Dragon.
    No regrets about my choice, but I’m always looking to see what can be done with my setup. This is interesting, but requires more fiddling than I would personally like. Be interesting to see if Sonos offers something like this in the future

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      Yes fiddly-laden … but the potential output is quite compelling and yes cheaper for folks that already have many of the components already

    • @seanquigley3624
      @seanquigley3624 Před rokem

      Set the difference using the app, and everything adjusts together, but it doesn’t with a remote.

    • @ccdccd8615
      @ccdccd8615 Před rokem +1

      @@seanquigley3624 Very true. Using the remote just messes your adjustment between the Arc and the 300s

    • @A95L-Is-On-My-Wall
      @A95L-Is-On-My-Wall Před 11 měsíci

      Did the addition of the 300 for rears make the Sonos that much better? I have the same Sonos ECO now with rear Play1's. I'm looking at the Dragon.

    • @ccdccd8615
      @ccdccd8615 Před 11 měsíci

      @@A95L-Is-On-My-Wall To be honest, if I was starting from scratch, I’d get the dragon. But neither of use are starting from there. I though the 1 SLs were a waste of money for the rears. Didn’t appreciate the rears until I got the 300s

  • @dougbarasch9342
    @dougbarasch9342 Před rokem +2

    Love your videos and especially this one. I have the Arc, the Sub Gen 3 and two 300s. Two questions for you. I have my system all set up in my living room and when using the App and TruePlay I can't individually control each speaker. How are you able to do that? And when you added the two additional 300s did you have to set those up under separate room?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      Yes separate room and stereo paired … with the arc system you can control the tv and music volume of the rear 300s … you can’t control the eq. You have all the control of the stereo pair as you would with a single unpaired era 300 including height volume

    • @dougbarasch9342
      @dougbarasch9342 Před rokem

      @@neverenoughtech Awesome. Thank you so much!

    • @goldenmagmagaming
      @goldenmagmagaming Před 4 měsíci

      @@neverenoughtech would it also work with a pair of Sonos One?

  • @pbosche
    @pbosche Před 3 měsíci

    So I’ve just ordered 300’s to replace my ONE’s as surrounds.
    I was planning on selling them…
    Do you think adding the ONE’s to the front as you did the second pair of 300’s would have a similar and spectacularly worthy affect?
    Or perhaps sell them in interest of a second sub?
    Ha, just made it to that part of the video 🤣🤣

  • @nigelturner3251
    @nigelturner3251 Před rokem

    Oh great! Got to sneak another two 300’s under the radar. “ no dear they’ve always been there”

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      HT is always an apologize later kind of endeavor

    • @ccdccd8615
      @ccdccd8615 Před rokem

      Did that trick for the 300s replacing the 1s as rears

    • @nigelturner3251
      @nigelturner3251 Před rokem

      That particular upgrade was orchestrated with precision and carefully drip fed information on just how much improved the whole system would be with the Era 300’s. Having the moon in the right faze also imperative.

  • @drewh1956
    @drewh1956 Před rokem

    I may have to do this and add two more eras. Only difference, I have one sub behind the couch to give a little different immersion.

  • @drewh1956
    @drewh1956 Před rokem

    The voices were a bit muddied so I wonder how to dial that in a little better (Top Gun Maverick) - I also noticed that it didn't raise volume together. Any ideas?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      Gotta keep the 300s volume a little lower than the bar

  • @LoafRock
    @LoafRock Před rokem +3

    🍻 let’s go!

  • @watchAddict770
    @watchAddict770 Před 10 měsíci

    I’ve got the arc with 2 era 300s as rears and I have been very impressed with them….just wish I could pair up my 2 era 100’s as front right n left

    • @zachmcclintock2041
      @zachmcclintock2041 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Can’t you do what he did here, just group them not paired

    • @watchAddict770
      @watchAddict770 Před 10 měsíci

      @@zachmcclintock2041 want dolly atmos

  • @SteveMuller1976
    @SteveMuller1976 Před rokem +2

    I'll move to Sonos once they support DTS, c'mon Sonos 🙏

    • @garretts431
      @garretts431 Před rokem +1

      You mean dts-hd right? Dts is supported

    • @SteveMuller1976
      @SteveMuller1976 Před rokem +1

      @@garretts431 yeah sorry. I meant lossless DTS (DTS MA) and DTS:X. I have over 100 movies with DTS:X 😕

  • @marcvanheugten9472
    @marcvanheugten9472 Před 5 měsíci

    So can we add the 300 pairs to rear and mid of the room and leave the arc as front? That software development from sonos would be nice.

  • @jakeresch264
    @jakeresch264 Před rokem

    I really enjoy your videos and opinions about varying speaker systems. Thank you for your time and effort in making each video. I currently have a Sonos Arc, Gen 3 Sub, and two Era 300's as surrounds. Do you think adding a second Gen 3 sub is worth the cost? Thank you for your consideration of this question.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      Adding a second sub helps but there are limited returns and it’s not cheap - but you can repurpose it. Kind of a how extra money you have laying around

    • @jakeresch264
      @jakeresch264 Před rokem

      @@neverenoughtech Thank you for your prompt response. I have one more question. In your comparison video for the Sonos Arc, Sub, and SL Ones you made a few claims about the cinema sound of the system that put in last as compared to other systems. If the SL Ones are swapped with the Era 300s, does that change your opinion? Again, thank you.

  • @MSAli86
    @MSAli86 Před měsícem

    Have the ultimate sonos setup but considering the criminal act of adding a pair of play 1s via grouplay.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 29 dny +1

      I’m not sure if Sonos is prosecuting pre-crimes yet

  • @ltrt8ian534
    @ltrt8ian534 Před rokem

    Got my Dragon coming. Had to frantically push the order button for 22 minutes when it finally let me in.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      It said sold out before I ever got in. I suspect that was not true. Your persistence paid off

  • @ChrisTonge
    @ChrisTonge Před rokem +2

    Hi Daniel... I'm looking for the best Atmos music set up for my open plan house and I'm stuck between a stereo pair of Era 300s with a Sub.... or 4 x Era 300s grouped in 2 stereo pairs. We don't have a TV in this space so it's just for music and mainly Atmos content. What's your take? I'm really tempted by the thought of 4 Eras in this space!!!

    • @mantadiverscancunmx2971
      @mantadiverscancunmx2971 Před 5 měsíci

      did you do this? i am looking at the same thing but having a hard time finding info

  • @brianbeuten6270
    @brianbeuten6270 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So now that you have had time with the Dragon do you think that this Sonos setup is a clear winner?

  • @michaelribeiro5777
    @michaelribeiro5777 Před rokem +1

    Love this video.

  • @93ChayZ
    @93ChayZ Před 6 měsíci +1

    SONOS NEEDS TO ALLOW DEDICATED FRONT L/R SPEAKERS. A fellow on the r/Sonos subreddit told me that some of them were beta testing for Sonos, they are testing it. It’s gunna be a matter of when. Sonos is really missing out on some serious profits, I know people will run out to buy another 900$ pair of ERA300’s for dedicated front’s or (supposedly ERA500’s)

  • @ramsaybolton9151
    @ramsaybolton9151 Před 5 měsíci +1

    have you noticed speckling?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 5 měsíci

      I’ve heard rare dropouts

    • @ramsaybolton9151
      @ramsaybolton9151 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@neverenoughtech sorry I should have been more specific. I mean with the ALR screen.

  • @watchAddict770
    @watchAddict770 Před 10 měsíci

    I thing i wish is volume counter on my lg c8 tv instead of plus n minus

  • @stratman2077
    @stratman2077 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I have been desperately trying to get answers from sonos regarding this unsanctioned setup. My main question is “is the arc smart enough not to send redundant signals to front era300’s and will the front tweeters on the 300 be engaged.”. Do you know those answers? Thank you. Great video

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 11 měsíci

      Yes the front tweeter are engaged when they are grouped

    • @stratman2077
      @stratman2077 Před 11 měsíci

      @@neverenoughtech I re-watched your excellent video and you indicated that the left and right ERA 300s will be redundant. That’s a real bummer I was hoping that the arc would be smart enough not to send redundant information. Oh well perhaps of future upgrade. Thank you for your quick response.

  • @BenChuab34tl35
    @BenChuab34tl35 Před 9 měsíci

    Do you think the same effect could be achieved with using Era 100s as the additional front two pairs?

  • @nephilim2051
    @nephilim2051 Před 11 měsíci

    Am watching this even when I have a Bose 900 system. 😂

  • @michaelbakhtiar9256
    @michaelbakhtiar9256 Před rokem

    Luv the vid. I still think the 300s (at least for now) belong in the HT world only. I tried a pair for audio only and got serious ear fatigue; mind you I did not nor will I sound treat my living room, nor had I tried a sub, which would help). I also found that Apple Music do not play lossless even from within the Sonos app (aka not Airplay version)…
    If Sonos does not produce an Era Arc, ,albeit they will allow for two options: an Arc setup or multi 300s without the need for an Arc.
    Cheers

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +2

      It’s intended first for music, at least that’s the company facing stance. I think a sub helps but the music output is probably just not for you. Probably more of a fives guy. Just weird they don’t use the front part of the speaker in some manner with the rears. It just seems poorly planned

    • @michaelbakhtiar9256
      @michaelbakhtiar9256 Před rokem +1

      @@neverenoughtech so appreciate the response and insight! I think you are 100% right that the 300 just don’t suite my ears.
      I wish the fives had a mic for voice control bc that convenience is amazing.
      I also found Apple Music not to play lossless vs others so who knows if that contributed to my ear fatigue. So many variables that I shouldn’t blame the speaker.

  • @gavids2809
    @gavids2809 Před rokem

    Great video! Thank you.
    So I have the Arc, sub (gen 3), and 2 Eras 300s (received today!). I know with the ones we could make the surround Ambient or Full, what do you all think it’s the best recommendation for this setting? I want to use my setup for movies and music. Thanks I’m advance :)

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      Well you can only (officially) pair either the 300s or the ones as rears … you can group as many other speakers or stereo pairs as you wish … for paired speakers you have the option for ambient or full playback when streaming music over the S2 network. I usually keep it as ambient. You don’t have those ambient or full option when playing video also any speaker that is grouped will play full no matter what

  • @timhamock2996
    @timhamock2996 Před rokem +2

    I tried this setup grouping my fives with my 300's and 2 subs with arc. Sounds pretty cool but unfortunately it had an echoing effect as the play 5's were sightly delayed. I would have kept it grouped if the 5's weren't delayed

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      I found the delay imperceptible if the volumes were set appropriately

    • @timhamock2996
      @timhamock2996 Před rokem +2

      @@neverenoughtech yep saw you did that further into the video and had me thinking 🤔 maybe i should try that. Thanks!

  • @salimsebas
    @salimsebas Před rokem +1

    I've always wondered if you use a dedicated blueray player or so when testing these sound systems or you just use any good streaming service with atmos content. I reaaaally enjoy your videos man, excellent job!

  • @wfrancke
    @wfrancke Před rokem +1

    Can you explain in detail how you setup the combination? Interested buyer for this type of brand!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +9

      Every speaker but the two Black Era 300s are ‘paired’ or ‘combined’ to work as a single unit such that each piece is outputting distinct channels - this official combination or pairing I referred to as the Arc system … the process of pairing is very easy it just takes a bit of time in the Sonos App. when speakers are combined/paired they act as a single speaker (mostly) so when you raise the volume all the speakers in that pairing get louder. The Arc soundbar takes the HDMI signal and distributes appropriately. The thing I did in this video that is weird is that I took additional speakers that cannot pair/combine with the arc (as the arc system only supports 2 rear speakers not 4) and treated them as though they were part of the combination. So I paired the two black era 300s as a stereo pair (easy to do the app prompts you to create a stereo pair) and then grouped (not paired/or combined) with the arc system. Sonos supports multiroom playback so tthe 300 pair took signals from the Arc but the Arc treats the black speakers as a separate entity not the arc entity. So I did a weird thing having two separate sound system entities playing at the same place and same time … I wanted to see if it would work in this case as Sonos is so modular you can experiment a bit. This is difficult to explain over comments but maybe this helped

    • @j.bright87
      @j.bright87 Před rokem +1

      @@neverenoughtech once pair as a group, this setup stays in place. I’m guess you don’t activate each time you using you home theatre setup?

  • @meowmeow1733
    @meowmeow1733 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm trying this craziness with 5 homepods and a sub.
    It's a big sound, but I know if apple hadn't been lazy and made a specific program to turn your homepods if you have enough into a 5 or more .1 setup that utilizes the individual homepods as such, it would be much better.
    5 homepod gen1's is cheaper then 2 era 300's. 5 homepods,...that's 5 woofers and 35 tweeters.
    I'll keep saying it......I know 1000% that with the right program this set up would sound amazing. Apple unfortunately doesn't care.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 11 měsíci

      5 HomePods and a sub? The community demands to know how to do that? Something like two stereo pairs and a single? Sub a direct connection to a tv? So confused

  • @chriscowell4376
    @chriscowell4376 Před měsícem

    So I have a question? I am running this 9.4.2 set up. But while I was messing around I added one of the subs to the stereo pair of 300’s. So my question is can I add 2 subs to the arc and then one if not 2 to the ear’s

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před měsícem

      You can add two to the arc and one to a stereo pair . The third sub would be paired with the 300s stereo pair which I assume would be in the front … you can put the third sub where you like

    • @chriscowell4376
      @chriscowell4376 Před měsícem

      @@neverenoughtech exactly right. Currently I have 1 to either side and would run a third on a 180 phase perhaps but yes that’s the plan just didn’t know if it would work so I may go buy a third now haha

    • @chriscowell4376
      @chriscowell4376 Před měsícem

      @@neverenoughtech thank you greatly though.

  • @Mike71712
    @Mike71712 Před rokem

    Great video! Question’s, what did you have the height volume set for on the 300’s and do you prefer trueplay on or off? Thanks in advance!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      TP on and carried between 0 and +2

    • @Mike71712
      @Mike71712 Před rokem +1

      @@neverenoughtech Thanks! Appreciate the fast response. Surprised that low on the height, I would think at least +5. I have mine on +7 but I see a lot of ppl don’t even think +10 is enough.

  • @snehilrathod2322
    @snehilrathod2322 Před rokem

    Have been interested in this setup from the day 300's were announced.! the only content on internet with this configuration. Thank you
    How about direct comparison of Sonos Ultra Pro Max vs Nakamichi vs HT-A9 vs Q990's ?

  • @vansfamily4785
    @vansfamily4785 Před rokem

    So wait… I’m confused.. how do you set it up? I thought I heard him say not to connect it to the arc? So how do you set it up then? I would be super interested in this. Just need a step by step explanation to how to set this up if anyone would be so kind to send that. Also how do you think this would sound if you added those two speakers plus two 5 s.. oh my! Probably over kill! Thanks! Awesome video by the way!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +1

      I just grouped (multirooled) the two front 300s as a stereo pair. Not as special as it sounds. I have a video coming to explain the setup

  • @Hewasnumber.1
    @Hewasnumber.1 Před 8 měsíci

    How do these compare to the q990c? Looking for a good setup for my samsung s95b QD OLED TV. Mostly for playing ps5 & streaming movies. The sonos price is crazy.

  • @tamogami.R
    @tamogami.R Před 27 dny

    Is the limitation to control the volume of the front Era's 300 because of hardware or software?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 27 dny +1

      It’s just a choice made by Sonos - they could easily add a setting so that the front grouped pair volume goes up as you change the arc volume

    • @tamogami.R
      @tamogami.R Před 27 dny

      Shame on Sonos!

  • @bassoflove74
    @bassoflove74 Před rokem

    Have you try to add a Gen1/3 to the stereo-pair ERA300 up front?

  • @Ronabel23
    @Ronabel23 Před rokem +6

    Just based on specs alone....pretty sure the DRAGON will still beat this set-up for movies, with a better price too. Those ERA 300's are in crazy expensive territory for what they do. 4 Era 300 + 2 Sub + Arc is a $4293 USD setup

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      Yeah, I get that, I’m kind of positing that the separate wider front soundstage just can’t be virtualized … I suspect the dragon can get louder, more rumbly, offer better raw sound and technically better 3D audio … but can’t compete on the front sound stage … like a fully loaded vehicle on its final model year kind of thing

    • @lorenzohardy5212
      @lorenzohardy5212 Před rokem +4

      I think you are to something. I tried this with my fives added to the arc. Man. Let me tell you. Wowwwwww

    • @UnholySeoul
      @UnholySeoul Před rokem

      @@neverenoughtech I wonder if Nakamichi will release add-on fronts to open up sound stage

  • @johnshepherd2666
    @johnshepherd2666 Před rokem

    very interesting...glad I bypassed the A9s ..& stuck with my 12 Sonos units.....do you think that your ears give you an unfair listening advantage ?😅😅😅-😅

  • @tao6295
    @tao6295 Před 11 měsíci

    The Dragon is on sale again. Do you think the order button will work this time?😏

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 11 měsíci

      Easy to miss but a few months ago I posted that I successfully pre-ordered on the second round - expect it in October

  • @srejeti007
    @srejeti007 Před rokem

    Can you explain or point me to infomation on how to connect Era300 pair (front arrangement) to the existing sonos arc+oneSL pair+dual sub ?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      Watch the second half of this video Sonos Pairing & Grouping Explained
      czcams.com/video/nSTVcVYHfRs/video.html

  • @jean-mauricelandry640
    @jean-mauricelandry640 Před 10 měsíci

    Hi thanks for your time to showing the best sonos systeme set up.
    My question is can i have sonos sl one in front with the sonos arc and sub and in the back sonos era 300 is it possible to have that?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 10 měsíci

      So you can pair the 300s such that they act as a single unit with the arc and sub (all that is official). After that you can group as many other speakers or speaker pairs as you want. So you can group a single or sl stereo pair with the Arc system. Keep in mind that the grouping is just mimicking the arc system. It’s not adding discrete channels - the grouping is a hack but you should experiment and you may/may not prefer the unofficial setup

    • @jean-mauricelandry640
      @jean-mauricelandry640 Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you for responding

  • @RealCounterfeitCash
    @RealCounterfeitCash Před rokem

    Button didn't work for me either and did the same thing I had to refresh three time and got to purchase

  • @franziskusfranziskaner9370
    @franziskusfranziskaner9370 Před 4 měsíci

    Maybe dumb question, but don’t you get the back sounds with this settup now also from the front?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 4 měsíci

      I’m pretty sure I address in the video … can’t remember things anymore . But yes they do play rear sounds … a QUESTION embedded in the video is “amongst the fireworks” does this “strangeness” ruin everything. And would it be a more substantial system than the dragon that was not yet released

  • @gsotelo1053
    @gsotelo1053 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Sonos in their most recent Q&A addressed front speaker capability, they said they couldn’t announce anything but that they are always listening to customers, my guess is we are all expecting a Arc 2 but maybe the Arc is the last of its kind and the next step is a Sonos center channel to add whichever fronts you want but keep the Arc in the lineup for people who just want the simplicity of a soundbar.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Well I will humbly take the credit if I am asked 😎. Yeah I am not advocating for the abolition of soundbars as they are simple and effective. Rather, the highest end of the soundbar movement should be to offer more wireless pieces up front … I think that is where the higher returns can be found … not necessarily making the most soundbar-y soundbar of all soundbar time … hard to do the 3D thing exceptionally well with a single front speaker

  • @asmrpages6657
    @asmrpages6657 Před rokem

    Anytime you group speakers to a Sonos home theater setup, you will likely experience an audio delay from the grouped speakers when playing TV audio. The "reverb" that is mentioned in the video is the audio delay. That's why this setup is not recommended by Sonos.
    Also, the Arc already includes the center, front left, and front right channels. So adding two more front speakers is redundant. I would also guess that mixing the two front height channels of the Arc with the combined front/rear height channels from the front Era 300s and the would create a mess with the front height sound stage.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +3

      I was worried about all these things (I used the word abomination) and kind of expected it to not work but it worked way better than I anticipated - pushing some effects further than you can get otherwise. I’ve moved away from recordings but they might make sense to make available in case.

  • @tuareg67
    @tuareg67 Před rokem

    Does it have a way to pair it for 4 ERA300 Sonos, ARC Sonos, 2 SUB Sonos, and 1 SONOS AMP? ¿Is it possible to achieve more than 5.2.4?
    Thanks for the magnificent videos.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +2

      The technical max is 7.1.4 that is with arc, 2 300s and a sub … two subs would still technically be give a .1 … you can’t ‘pair’ any more 300s or any other speakers … that’s what I would have done instead I grouped a stereo pair to mimic the Arc system so it’s a 7.1.4 + 2.0 (not sure what the era stereo count is) playing the same material at the same place

  • @mariusuys2693
    @mariusuys2693 Před 9 měsíci

    Hi great videos. I tried this config with two era’s in tie front. This has made a massive difference however I have run i to one issue. The front era speakers works fine but after a few min starts going load and soft and unsure why. Any ideas why this is or a solution? Have grouped them.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 9 měsíci

      Did not experience that … was there some change in the official volume level during those periods?

    • @mariusuys2693
      @mariusuys2693 Před 9 měsíci

      Hi, I found the issue, the arc and era 100 were competing for the same wifi signal. Dropped the era’s to 2.4G and solved the issue. Thanks for your reply and keep up the excellent work!!!

  • @RobSnow-ui4sz
    @RobSnow-ui4sz Před 6 měsíci

    Good video but you did not have the Nakamichi Dragon on site to validate a true comparison. I also thought if you can't control the whole system volume then you are dancing in and out of volume controls which would indeed suck over time. , so that would drive me crazy. Imagine that, 3 speakers in the front, starting to sound like a traditional setup instead of a sound bar just relying on audio bounce.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 6 měsíci

      Well the validation video might just be in the cooker based on recent rumors … and yes I’m aware of the usability frustrations

  • @heavenlyxtacy
    @heavenlyxtacy Před rokem +1

    Sonos is a great soundbar, but only thing keeping me away from them are the single hdmi port.

    • @fonkenful
      @fonkenful Před 10 měsíci

      Does your TV have sufficient inputs plus the eARC out to support your system needs? This seems to be a common gripe, but considering the control functionality that CEC offers, how many folks want to use the sound bar as switching hub?
      Honest question, not a trolling comment.

    • @heavenlyxtacy
      @heavenlyxtacy Před 10 měsíci

      @@fonkenful The thing is my tv is not very top end and no it does not have an e-arc port and I am also sure my tv wont output atmos. But I have an apple tv though, as of now I have an yamaha soundbar which has 2 hdmi port, since my tv wont support good audio output i have connected my apple tv to soundbar and then to tv. I know if I connect my apple tv to soundbar first then I will get good sound, so the must for me is 2 HDMI ports on a soundbar.

    • @fonkenful
      @fonkenful Před 10 měsíci

      @@heavenlyxtacyI know I’m sounded like a broken record on the subject, but every use case and budget is different; there is no single best.

    • @heavenlyxtacy
      @heavenlyxtacy Před 10 měsíci

      @@fonkenful Yes true, but the thing is speakers are not something like you change very often, you buy once and use it for decades, you should actually not compromise on speakers. So I would like something which fulfills all my expectations like I can wait even for 1 year and save the money and buy what I want. Or may be sonos comes up with something with 2 ports in their new models by then, cause I really dont want to spend on a new tv as the present one has a good display. I have also kept option open even for tower speakers with amps/receivers.

    • @fonkenful
      @fonkenful Před 10 měsíci

      @@heavenlyxtacy All of my chatter re Sonos ecosystem and implementation is based entirely upon home theatres in my two adult children’s homes. While the lifestyle convenience and flexibility is undeniable, there’s little about the sonic performance that percs my coffee, if you know what I mean. As for speakers not being something that get changed very often - well, that’s a generalization based on I think a very small sample size of long time audiophiles. I’ve got 60+ years in the hobby, and the only speakers to ever last more than 5 years in my system are the 11 that comprise my current upstairs 2 channel rig, with the remaining number in my downstairs HT Atmos system.

  • @joemiller6001
    @joemiller6001 Před rokem

    What projector are you using? How many lumens?

  • @o.c.g.m9426
    @o.c.g.m9426 Před rokem

    Goddamn $3500 and $4133 😂😂. How are people still choosing that over a home theater system with a AVR. Its cheaper, easy to set up & has same amount of wires as the sound bar systems 😂. O well great video bro

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem

      The wire statement is not true at least in terms of total feet and other routing work required. It’s true you got to plug all these in which created its own challenge. Lots of people have AVRs but my channel seems to largely be those exclusively interested in SBs or those who have migrated from AVRs for simplicity. This is also an over the top video largely for fun

  • @sajaygouri
    @sajaygouri Před rokem

    Great video, can I ask a doubt, how do you get the additional front speakers to play the front channels, because the hdmi from tv is going to arc. Thanks

    • @mrgold3591
      @mrgold3591 Před rokem +1

      The way to get the front 2 Era 300 to work with the 5 speaker Arc home theater group is selecting them in whole house audio mode and moving the extra speakers into the same room. They will play as a stereo pair over wi-fi and you can place them anywhere in the room. You "might" run into the issue of reverb/echo depending of the listening environment. You can only control the volume of all 7 speakers from the smartphone app because the TV remote will only control the 5 speaker Arc home theater group. I don't know if the extra Era 300 front tweeter is still disabled in stereo pair mode in this set-up when grouped with the Arc home theater?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +4

      No the front tweeter is only disabled when paired as rears. I discussed the echo issue near the end. It was not always there but if it happened just turn the era 300s down a bit and it becomes essentially imperceptible

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +2

      The stereo 300s play front and back … not just front - discussed that in the beginning

    • @sajaygouri
      @sajaygouri Před rokem

      @@mrgold3591 thank you

    • @sajaygouri
      @sajaygouri Před rokem

      @@neverenoughtech thank you

  • @r9ruben
    @r9ruben Před 29 dny

    What if you put 2 FIVE instead of 2 ERA? Is the same?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 29 dny +1

      Not the same - but both possible - fives are better (HiFi) and worse (Spatial)

    • @r9ruben
      @r9ruben Před 29 dny

      ​@@neverenoughtech I have the following configuration, ARC+SUB 3 GEN+2ERA and I was thinking of experimenting with putting two FIVEs in front, but I don't know if the real stereo sound in front is worth it

  • @DuragVince-
    @DuragVince- Před 10 měsíci

    Q990c for $1900 less than the Sonos ultimate immersive set (Arc, sub, 2x 300s)?
    Is the Sonos $1900 better?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před 10 měsíci

      Samsung Q990C vs Sonos Arc + 2 Eras 300s + Sub
      czcams.com/video/J0S_-AK1jQo/video.html

  • @06dame27
    @06dame27 Před rokem

    Will you get the height effects from the 300's in the front with Fives as the rears?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Před rokem +2

      Yes, but the spatial component is going to be far more emphasized with 300s in the front and back. I’d suggest putting the fives up front (the arc has height drivers) put era 300s in the back to give the back similar height properties

  • @TheTcat1000
    @TheTcat1000 Před rokem +1

    Furthermore, 2 Sonos subs will be no match for the 4 the Nakamichi provides