SNS 292: Eutalloy Repair on Transmission Shaft, Essential Craftsman AX
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- I show the first part of a two part repair job. I start with the transmission shaft that needs the end that rides in the crankshaft repaired. I use my Eutalloy Ultra Jet torch to work using the metal overlay technique of building up the worn surface, then machining it back to spec.
Also in this episode is the one of a kind hand made ax that was crafted by @Essential Craftsman and gifted to me using some of my 4140 chips.
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Many viewers don’t realize that I try and show different techniques used in the shop for repairs and machining. I’ve recently published a video talking about the torch system I used in this video. I’m using the Ultra Jet made by Eutectic Company. The Ultra Jet is used to build up parts that are stationary, not rotating. Many people are asking “why not spin it in the lathe?” The Eutalloy system doesn’t work with a moving part. You use controlled movements to build up the surface similar to how you would with arc welding or brazing. One of the reasons I wanted to use my Eutalloy torch was because the end of the shaft was worn down further then what my other spray welding system could build up. The end was worn, not beveled like people are claiming. The shaft was banging around inside that hole and was hitting the drilled portion of the end of the hole. I wanted to use this torch because it was perfect for a build up repair, and to share its use on my channel. It’s got many uses and with a little open mindedness and or research, anyone watching can learn it’s benefits. I repaired the shaft the way the customer wanted, by building up the shaft and machining it back to spec, all the while using a tool I invested in for welding overlay repairs. Also, I don’t own a welding positioner. If I did I would have used one to spin the shaft instead of clamping in the vise. I’m just trying to share some work guys. Keep in mind there’s 100 ways to get a job done. My way may not be the perfect way, but it’s my way. If you don’t agree, that’s ok. Do things your way.
Abom you're inspiring. Keep up the excellent work! Watching you from the UK
Thank you for the explanation, I also wanted to know why you're not using it in a rotating jig :) I'm a complete layman, so it wouldn't be criticism, just curiosity. Thank you for all the videos.
Thank you... I knew there was logic to it, I was just wondering about what it was!
Cool. I was curious too, but that explains it. Thanks
Abom79 I for one like seeing the other options. In the past I've approached similar jobs by welding or brazing (better suited to some of the antique and occasionally cast iron parts ive worked on) and recently purchased a Metco spray metalizing system to try to. I have never used one of these systems, but I can see lots of possibilities for it. Maybe someday I'll look at one.
This is my favorite sort of Abom content...taking something used up and jacked and making it right again....
The internet can bring out the petty, selfish, judgemental, and rude in all of us. Its nice to see that it can do the opposite with the right heart properly applied. Scott's words appear to be far from misplaced. I hope you both can keep your wonderful outlook on life while sharing yourself in such a harsh environment. Thank you for letting us into your shop.
Well stated... touching video.
A-Man! Thank you for being such a fantastic educator and for sharing your hard earned knowledge, skills, and experience.
You explain the tools you utilize extremely well! Importantly to me, it’s clear that your intentions are always pure when sharing tool information! There’s a right way to explain tools to “your buddies”, and then there’s the Bought and Payed for Tool description. You my friend are doing it right and I completely understand how you and Scott are kindred spirits! Great people you are!
Thank you for everything.
As always,
-CY Castor
Years ago I went into an old fashioned hardware store to purchase a file. I bought the file and received a five minute instruction on proper care and maintenance of said file, by an old gentleman, who owned the store. He was quite stern on telling me what not to do to my new purchase. Something else I took from this lecture was that people who know the effort it took to produce these tools, take much more care to ensure the best possible longevity of a quality tool. Watching a craftsman at work, reminds me of this lesson I learned 50 odd years ago
Knowledge from time past, and will more than likely never be repeated again. In my time, I have had the pleasure of working with men who knew their trade. Information they passed on 50 years ago I'm still utilising in my own work today, even though I'm long now "officially" retired almost daily I get commented on the pride, skill and quality visible in my work. Cheers from Eng. D located in Indonesia.
My grandfather made an ax for me as a boy. He restored tools and machines, he could make things from nothing or very little. My ax was cut for an old broken one and remade into something useful. He also put a steel guard down the wood hand, he called it a “worm guard”. I learned years later the “worm guard” was reference to me i was the worm that needed guarding from. He had a rough sentence of humor. Thanks for sharing.
Watched Scott make the axe. During that video he explained what a friendship really is all about. You are both fine craftsmen that inspire and teach many people. Thank you both.
when i see this ax, i get emotional. pure, iron, wood, heat, force. an honest tool. simple. handy. dangerous. pure. reliable.
Adam, you and Scott are both rays of light for me... I spend most of my life being very ill post cancer & transplant. So I’m very glad for you both to be friends.
Hi Adam Re. I hope you don't mind me commenting - Re. the kabota crankshaft: Most current crankshafts do not currently use a bush in the rear end for the Gearbox First Motion Shaft Spigot. Years ago, they used to be fitted with a porous phosphor bronze bush - that was preferably soaked in light engine oil overnight prior to fitting. That practice was superceded by the fitment of a ball bearing in the flywheel. If the worn crankshaft could be machined for a steel sleeve, and a ball bearing fitted of an inner diameter to suit the first motion shaft bearing surface, the First Motion Shaft Spigot area would not wear again.
With the small amount of wear to the spigot area, the shaft could be machined for the shrink fitting of a SKF 'wear sleeve' of an outer diameter to suit a firm sliding fit inside the ball bearing. It would only be necessary to remove the wear sleeve flange after shrink fitting.
I don't think anyone will care or if Adam will see this just wanted to say thx. watching your success is part of the reason ive decided to lose some weight. on a keto diet and reduced calories. already lost about 30lbs and my Abom hoodie is getting pretty loose already
Great job! 👍🏻
Keep going!!!😇
I watched Scott's video when it first came out and I was blown away then by the beauty of his creation. Seeing your smile while holding the ax just shows your pride for the gift.
Damn, that is a Heirloom Axe right there. That is something to behold for a life time. Great job Scott my hat is off to you!
Watched the EC video of the making of the ax and the best part was at the end watching the little girl coloring and tooling leather. Family, and the transference of values is everything.
Growing up around machine work with a dad and uncles that were career old school manual machinist/ mold makers/ tool & die makers/ and riflesmiths, steel & micrometer measurements are where my recreational thoughts always drift to.
But I also watch essential craftsman, as I was once a framing carpenter many years ago. I loved framing, but I didn't quite fit in there because I was raised on .000"-.0000", my ideas about fitment often harmlessly clashed with coworkers.
These two channels really satisfy my appetite for hands-on craftwork, in the two industries I enjoy.
I really enjoyed watching you restore the end of the shaft. I loved seeing you enjoy the new ax. Priceless.
I've watched you channel for a long time I am a bowling center mechanic and some of your tricks And trade have helped me through my career with removing some Broken bolts and shafts
Fascinating work with the Eutalloy torch. That axe size is referred to in many circles as a 3/4 axe. Very nice size to work with.
That axe is incredible. You can see where he put in a different piece of steel for the cutting edge. Awesome, Adam... I really enjoy your videos. Also, thank you, Scott. (The Essential Craftsman)
you are such a kind lion hearted man. i truly respect you with all my soul and honor. bless you Adam aka Abom
Great repair on the shaft. The ax is beautiful.
Your humility and your compassion is a grand example for all.
Thanks Mr Booth.
Scott is humble as hell. His videos are relaxing
That is a fine cutting axe not a splitting axe, as you saw when it did not split that small piece of wood-but jammed halfway down. A splitting axe would have split that in the first inch. Treasure that fine crafted axe as a precision tool. Best from ‘down under’-.👍🇦🇺🔭
The craftmanship is world class.
Any man that can file a red hot piece of metal that closely without gloves deserves my respect....
That axe is just the coolest!! Scott Wadsworth is as good at what he does as you are at the many things that you do, Adam! It's only fitting that you two collaborate as often as you can. :-)
silly question that somebody might already asked
why not use a lathe to rotate this shaft while spray welding the material?
kokodin i agree did some of that over 20 years ago was still a little new then and we always rotated
I kind of expected that after watching the spray welding he did before
Check out my spray welding videos. This is a different process. Eutalloy, Rototec. Two different things.
@@Abom79 sure, easy to see it works differently, I'll have to look and see if there is an explainer why it's done one way or the other anywhere. Mind you this is just entertainment for me, end result looked great.
I remember being told by the teacher in metal work class doing lathe work "measure it twice, you can't turn it bigger". Well in a way, now you can! Nice work.
But if you spin it fast enough......... :-)
Scott is an amazing craftsman. His attention to detail and depth of knowledge is amazing. You can hear his joy of carpentry and blacksmith work in his voice. They way he explains things is absolutely amazing. Any person who has the opportunity to learn from him will be truly blessed.
Are you commenting on the right video? This is a machinist channel.
Sorry, I didn't wait till the part where he talks about Scott!
Did you watch the video? The last segment Adam is talking about Scott, “The Essential Craftsman” CZcams channel. The man who made the axe Adam is showing and using. I was simply commenting, more toward Adam than anything, that Scott is a great man who has great content.
Wow, you're right. That's a very nice axe!
That axe is beautiful. I've heard that size axe called a 3/4 axe, and the drop on the bottom makes it a bearded axe. I would offer one word of caution for you when using this size of axe. If you are trying to do any sort of splitting with it, you should not do it standing, even if your target is up on a raised block. If you glance off or miss a swing, a 3/4 axe is short enough that your over-travel can bring it down into your leg, where a full length axe will typically ground the head. Believe me, it will surprise you when it happens, and you'll find it harder to steer the miss than you would assume. I was used to using a full size axe, and almost got myself in trouble when handed a 3/4 axe at camp and trying to split down some kindling for the fire.
Very important to read for anyone of height using a smaller hatchet/axe/etc
Yes! Steel toed boots saved my left foot years ago.
Looks like it turned out good! That axe is really something special. Scott did awesome!
You have such a reverence for other makers work! It's one of the many reasons I subscribe to your channel!
Very nice as always.
I have to say, I'm glad you got this amazing axe. Scott and yourself are two of my favorite creators, the way you guys talk, the smoothness, and the knowledge. It's always a great pleasure to watch both of your videos.
jf Santerre thank you 👍🏻
this is easily the most beautiful axe i have been shown on CZcams. Very elegant, well well well made and awesome material. I would consider her more of a felling axe. It is too slender and lightweight for splitting. Will get it done thou.
The Ax is Beautiful!
Just curious. You said that shaft was hardened. what Rockwell 55-65? But, you said the build up was 10-20 Rockwell. Why doesn’t the repair have to be hardened to what it was before it was repaired? Thanks for the movie.
Thats a beautiful axe, love the rustic look of it and the darker metal in the head. Thank's for this video of the buildup of the pilot shaft from the Kubota transmission. Great job Adam !!!
Hands down the best smile on CZcams
J B Thank you 😁
A man who is passionate about his skills as a machinist. Interesting to watch this man work irrespective of what project he chooses to film. Thank you for sharing (the kind of guy I would happily spend a few beer's with) Coming to you from the other side of that big pond
Back in the stone ages (1960's) I learned a lot of machining in my dad's shop at his rental center. One thing was the blades for lawn mowers. People really beat them up. A random traveling salesman came by selling and almost identical setup for metal spraying. One of the powders was tungsten carbide. My job was to grind and sharpen the blades when they were done. We never bought another set of blades. It was amazing. Thank you for making thing video.
I just picked up a Eutalloy spray welding kit for $180 with quite a bit of powder.. I just have my farm shop, and no immediate use for it, but I figured ONE DAY, SOME DAY, I will have either a very expensive part, or just a part that you can't get that needs to be built up, and I'll have the tool to do it with, and that's priceless!
Beautiful workmanship on the axe too!
Rx7man it you have some of the hard powders, use it to hard face lawnmower or bush hog blades. 👌🏻
@@Abom79 I think I do, and that's a great idea.. I have an old Murray mower and in about 10 hours the top sides of the blades are worn through where it's bent up.. It's a rough duty mower and it sees a fair bit of sand. Sounds like a good thing to practice on.
Great vid Adam! I really enjoy how you mix in some automotive repairs on items that "can't be fixed". Keep up the great content. That ax is making absolutely beautiful.
Seen the video on essential Craftsman where he made the ax-head the video was awesome his skills are tremendous I'm not a machines im just a hobbyist I have a lathe and mill in my shop and I learned a lot of tricks and techniques from watching your videos keep making the good videos love them
That's a cool gift for a cool person , you deserve it Adam .
all the feels when your two favorite craftsmen content creators share the love like this. Awesome!
what a beautiful gift. As beautiful as it is and would love to see it on your wall, it just cries to be used.
Maybe while you're not camping you can have a spot in your shop to call home.
Great video. Nice work. Beautiful camp axe. Thank you for sharing
Those Input shafts (Most ive Seen as a Mechanic for 35 years) generally have more Bevel on the end to aid in Stabbing the shaft into the pilot. Great Video
The end was worn from beating the bevel of the drilled hole.
Dude. I love that Motion is running ad on your video.
Just curious why you didn't do the buildup while the shaft was rotating in the lathe at a very slow rpm. You may have mentioned it but I missed it.
Awesome repair Adam. The axe, sheath, and handle.......PRICELESS!!!!!
Machining videos. These are what attracted me to your channel in the first place. Thank you.
Always learn something from your videos Adam. Today I learned how beautiful an axe can be. That thing is an art piece and works just as beautifully. Looks well balanced too.
Form follow function, or function follow form. It does both glorious.
What a gorgeous axe, Adam! I watched the video of it being made. I still have a double-bitted axe that my dad made in 1947 at a Boy Scout camp where he was a councilor. He bought a "Tru Temper" brand axe head from some hardware store, but carved the handle himself from Ash wood, which is very tough but flexible. He used it to fell more trees and split more firewood than I could ever know, and I've used it for decades myself. I have no kids, so some day I'll gift it to someone who appreciates it, and they'll get decades more use out of it.
Adam the end of a shaft that engages a pilot bearing is usually chamfered for the first quarter inch to make assembly easier
Roger Laubhan This one worn from rubbing the bottom of the hole.
perfect system for setting up a slow rotational clamping system so that you lay down the powder uniformly
Adam,
A ¾ ax is always good to have around camp. You can use it one handed or two handed. That's what makes it so useful.
Also watched some of you adventures on your other channel and came to the conclusion that if you ever wanted to be a narrator you have the voice for it.
Good job, Adam. It's a camp axe, sized for smaller jobs, like cutting kindling, and smaller pieces of firewood, exactly what you intend to use it for. I have one of the ones with the BSA crest on it, made back in the 30's or 40's. Truly a beautiful tool.
I trust you on the machining. Wish people would be more polite with their comments. I’m here for the axe unboxing! Watched Scott make it, then when he said it was for you, it made it even better. I’ve been subscribed to and have admired both your craftsmanship for a few years now. Scott is an amazing guy. He can pretty much do anything. Loved the train machine shop video! Keep up the great content!
Huh?
That axe is priceless and your videos are priceless. Two of the BEST CZcams channels, hands down. ABOM79 and Essential Craftsman.
Now that's a wonderful friend. And a truly beautiful axe.
I don't get it. Why aren't you using a rotary setup to turn the shaft while you apply the new material?
looks like if you could rotate the shaft really slow it would work better.
Soothing beautiful video as always, and what a wonderful axe!
That's pretty neat, the build up process, but doesn't that ruin the heat treatment on that shaft?
I watched the Essential Craftsman video on Scott making your axe. Very cool that you tow know each other.
Those B6100's were a great little machine, lots of power for a small three cylinder diesel.
That axe is a work of art.
where does this guy come from !! this guy is really a specialist in each video I discover something, lucky people who do business with him
I'm curious why you didn't have the shaft turning in the lathe so you can do the buildup while it's rotating like you've done with other spray welding. Appears possibly that there may be no way to really limit how much powder is coming out.
I have the same question, I would think it would be easier to evenly apply the material
I really enjoy seeing your work, I think the sharing of your talent is so genuine when it comes from a person that has respect for others and a good heart.
Thanks for introducing "us" to the Ultra Jet tool and technique Adam. Very interesting. Keep up the great work, much appreciated.
Great video as alweys.Thanks from Sweden.
Howdy, from the USA 👋🏻.
Dang that axe is beautiful it takes skill to do something like that y’all should be proud of yourselves
Them: You can grind metal off but you can't add it back.
Abom: hold my beer!
😂this is awesome!
Great job with the shaft and great axe. Greets from Germany. Watching from the V8Lounge, Neuwied.
Thanks for the explanation you answered my questions before i knew what to ask. Its nice to see the method to use when the limits of the spray welding technique are exceeded.
Love your channel. I am learning alot. Keep it up. Thanks
well, here I am, with a big smile on my face, watching you and the ax, that the Essential Craftsman made you. Just fine, just fine, that is what friends are for :-) Hope Abby and you go see him…
That taper is supposed to be in the transmission shaft to help get it through the clutch or drive plate and help it start in the bearing when the tractor is put together. Great video I like the Spray welding
That looks like an excellent process.
Good job Scott looks great !
Quick note from a recovering wood-elf: the axe you have there is a felling axe, with a narrow head and fine, sharp edge designed for cutting across and diagonally through wood fibers in order to chop down a tree. You can surely use one for splitting in a pinch, but a tailor made splitting axe will do the job much more efficiently, with a head that looks a lot more like a sledge hammer that someone has ground into a wedge shape on one side.
Nice job on this repair!! People who keep saying dumb things obviously dont know how this process works lol.. it's not spray welding folks!! Nice repair like i said!
Great info on how to build up metal for repairs . But the high point was the axe , just a thing of beauty .
Was surprised you didnt put the shaft in a kind of slow rotating fixture, as I figured it would be easier to weld on the material.
That shaft build up, I have mig welded shafts like that but it is hard to do small shaft 1/2” or 10mm for bearings where I work are common small shaft end for long roller. Nice work. Cool ax I watched him build it first
Does it need to be hardened again? I can imagine it harms the hardness of the shaft. Nice method it is.
Hey Adam, you should put it in the lathe to turn as you build up..... J/K. Great job on the shaft. That torch worked great. That axe is awesome, such awesome craftsmanship. I've always wondered if you saved your shavings for something like that. Such a good community we live in or at least I get to watch the masters at their jobs.
I think I'd prefer an odd sized bushing over an untempered input shaft.
Well, they are both going to find out when they put this back together. You know they wont listen to a thing because they know it all already.
Great video . The powder spray weld from Eutectic is great stuff ,it just takes a little time to get great at it . That axe sure was a great gift .Take Care .
Neat work with that Eutally torch and the axe is awesome. Always love a good quality craft product, I am awestruck with the Damask dazzle of the metal lattice.
I love watching this kinda stuff. Thank you. 🙂
Hey Adam, I’m curious why you built this shaft up free-hand in a vise, and you used a thermal spray transfer on some other shafts. What’s the advantage of these different processes?
I remember Eutectic very well from the seventies, when many garages still had extensive machining capacity. They demonstrated a system for repairing cracked exhaust manifolds, which for many older cars was a real saver.
What an awesome gesture, and a beautiful tool.. that was a really cool gift...
I hope that soft material used for the fix doesn't get chewed up by the pilot bearing. I'm not sure what Kubota uses but the pilot bearings used in the automotive industry are needle bearings. Maybe a hardened sleeve would've been a better fix in this case.
Thats kinda what I was thinking, cool video and cool process though, just not sure about application.
I was just thinking that if the shaft is hardened wouldn't you want to Tig weld the build up using a hard alloy like monel or hasteloy? Then finish it up in the lathe. You have much more experience then me and it was actually cool to see that Technic you used. I've never seen it before although I'm guessing that's how they apply stelite coating to certain shafts.
The gentle giant made another wonder!
I HAD NOT HEARD OF THIS METHOD WITH THE EUTALLOY. THAT IS IMPRESSIVE!!