This may have been one of your clearest videos in terms of highlighting the pros and cons and just how to go through the game! Kudos! I know you don't label gimmicks as a negative thing - it just has a 'cheap' connotation but I backed this for the gimmicks, knowing that they'd be fun (and isn't that what gaming is about? It being fun?). Also, I know it's a personal thing that you like random-generated game aspects more than scripted ones but I actually am the reverse. My rational is that it allows for the stories to be more coherent and connected, building better dramatic moments that make thematic sense, rather than just having a string of unrelated events occur. But to each their own, right? Anyhoo, great video!
You can! There is a new campaign on gamefound for CoD Apocalypse. You will be able to order the full AoD set as well as the Apocalypse big expansion!!!
Interesting initial thoughts! I just love the varying elevations characters can traverse on the map, and the fact that they are interactive is even more exciting. When you laid that bridge over the chasm, it kind of blew my mind. I didn't know that was a feature until now. The only thing that gives me pause is those character sheets with all the different innate abilities. I wonder if the number of choices is a bit overwhelming, especially if you play multiple characters. At the same time, it gives you plenty of options in combat, which is always important in games such as these!
Flaws aside it's really one of the best dungeon crawls of the year. I'm impressed with the ideas in the box but I would want a little more refinement if they ever release expansions or a 2nd edition
Ypu can now join the campaign for the upcoming big expansion of Chronicles of Drunagor Apocalypse on Gamefound that is to launch on 20th July!!! Follow the campaign before the release and you will get miniboss expansion for free. What is more, you will be able to get the full set from the previous CoD AoD release
I sold my All in Pledge for good money, but i think with Dungeons of Infinity and Darkest Night 2 Edition new in my collection, i still got enough to play until Stormsunder arrives. Great Vid as always
I have all in Durango and could not afford also Stormsunder. I backed Stormsunder but could not afford it. I hope Stormsunder reprint because I will take it all this time.
I was too! I was not expecting to like it as much as I do. However, the nature of the heroes and all the cool choices you have as a player really won me over. It's just so much fun to take your turn! What are your thoughts?
@@TheDungeonDive I think it is a brilliant design. My biggest pros: + cube action system with its satisfying hero turn + skill system + exploration aspect (especially the interactions book is stellar) + the interaction between skills, items and the cube system My biggest cons: - too easy (so far) -> QR doors should fix that - lack of enemy variety (but with all expansions opened it should be less a problem) - different terrain levels could be used more tactical Overall: Drunagor has a chance to become one of the best dungeon crawl games out there. I am really excited to see which new design ideas will lurk around the corner in future installments. ;)
@@DieNische yeah. I find it too easy as well. And two weeks ago I had a blast with Dungeon Crusade, that I still recommend more than this one. Now it is time for Destinies.
They are doing full reprint and an expansion on Gamefound.com they are stepping away from kickstarter platform. It is a phenomenal game. watching the start of this video he has not read the rules or understand the randomness capable with qr cods and single shot rules.
@@jaemusmcnerney1885 Yeah and they will improve everything including the base game in the next reprint with new monster cards with random AI. Every monster will be unpredictable now. Plus so many improvements.
Thank you very much for this overview. I really like the honest way of which you shared your perspective and thoughts. Subscribed! This game look quite over whelming.. May you please share and what are the not-yet-published dungeon crawlers which you are looking for the most? Those which you expect that will blow your mind..? .. probably..?
Thanks for the video. I was interested in the 3d terrain but at the same time being afraid of the cubes lead to complicated rules. But I think you explain it well and I find it not as bad as I thought. Might give it a try in the upcoming Kickstarter campaign.
This action cube system looks kinda neat. I'm intrigued. I had overlooked the reprint on Gamefound, but now I think I might have to late pledge. Looking forward to your extended thoughts.
I enjoyed the Wu Xia genre a lot (Novels / 90s HK movies) and I wish there will be a board game to do the genre justice one day. But at the same time it will be difficult to get the feeling right (at least for me) as it could easily fall into campy weird eastern genre instead...
Oh yeah! I'm a huge wuxia fan. I own many hundreds of kung fu movies on DVD, and the '90s flying swordsmen stuff are my favorites. I've only read a few of the novels, and I love Legend of the Condor Heroes. So glad it has finally been translated into English!
@@TheDungeonDive True --- I've backed Machina Arcana and Dungeon Universalis reprints thanks to your videos. Maybe this one will have another go-around too.
If there's enough interest they hope to be able to do a reprint when the return to KS this summer, all we can do is spread the word and hope there's enough people wanting it.
I also love random scenarios with interesting random things to happen and lots of enemy variety. That's why I'm satisfied with Shadows of Brimstone and don't have to spend money buying other dungeon crawlers.. ;-)
well...also...Shadows of Brimstone demands ALL your money, including any future earnings you could possibly have. Have savings? Why, the latest PM is open, or the new KS campaign is launching, or hey, did you see the newest webstore supplement packs, how about the commander resin minis!? And if you happen to have enough money to buy another dungeon crawler, you cannot, because Shadows of Brimstone is also a space hog monster and refuses to share, all your space belongs to SoB! *I keep my SoB monster in a magical storage unit of holding.
How would one go about buying this gqme at this point? Im new to kickstarter but do know the pledge time is over so like how would you be able to purchase now then??
The developer had made some comments on a possible retail release or reprint could happen in the future but they are currently working on releasing the expansion for this game on a couple months on kickstarter.
@@murph-4 You should follow the creator on Kickstarter and Kickstarter will send you an email whenever they back something or launch a project. This way you know day 1 when the new campaign launches. Also, depending on where you live, you should search for 2nd hand sales, for example board game swap or trade groups on Facebook. The game is delivering now and this is usually the time most people try and sell off their fresh deliveries.
Enjoyed the vid a lot. Looks like tons of fresh gaming experience there. Wish I had not skipped this KS. The major thing stopping me backing is the tons of huge boxes. If they run another KS and reduce the packaging (which can also reduce shipping) I will definitely consider this game.
@@TheDungeonDive The all-in unboxing video of BoardGameCo really sends chills down my spine lol (and probably pocket too had I backed them all). The scripted nature of the campaign is not necessarily a major drawback if the overall design is great enough. Replayability can also come from trying different (combos of) characters and upgrades. Branching story paths are just a nice icing on an already delicious cake. Look forward to hearing you experience after your multi player games.
Hi. Really enjoying your series on smaller games, even though I haven't commented on any of them. With this, I saw it being sold for crazy cash on eBay and tried to remember why I didn't back it at the time. I think it was the ugly plastic terrain modifiers and the fairly bland art style which did for it. Possibly also the limited enemy range (seems a common problem). The character action menu and development look interesting though. I also like a good story driven campaign (absolutely adore Middara so far, with two massive provisos). One thought - might be a tricky game for those without perfect colour vision.
Color blindness is something I think about a lot in games but I don’t talk about it much. It’s something more designers need to pay attention to, and I’m surprised they don’t.
Hey there just wondering if you have any updated thoughts on this game after some more play sessions. I’m trying to figure out how much to add above the base content in the pledge manager and value your opinion 😊
Personally, I almost never recommend anything more than the base pledge for almost any game (there are some exceptions). I got the base pledge plus one small expansion for this, and just the base pledge for the next release. I prefer the game solo. There is a lot of downtime during the game because you have to set a lot of stuff up while playing (setting up the new room when you open the door takes a long time), and this always caused moments of distraction for my group, and made it very hard to keep everyone focused. I also found the story to be lackluster at best. It's yet another game where you read a lot, but the writing and story just aren't any better than the most mediocre fantasy novel. The game is still great at the character level, and the action/combat is super fun.
@@TheDungeonDive thanks so much for the quick response Daniel. I’m actually planning to play this one solo so no issues there. It’s a shame the writing isn’t better however it’s really the combat cube mechanics that appeal to me so sounds like it’ll be a nice light weight dice chucker. Thanks again mate, really appreciate your channel and the content you put out 👍🏻
@@TheDungeonDive I almost wouldn't compare the two as I feel like they're in different weight classes. AtC seems lighter, breezier, and somehow more old school. CoD looks like a much heavier game which, when I'm in the mood for, is also great. I think the two could compliment each other.
@@TheDungeonDive one more question - can any monster of any expansion be used for any scenario for added variety, or only specific ones like those from the "Monster Pack"?
If enough people are interested they'll do a reprint during the apocolypse expansion KS, they said the best thing we can do is spread the word to make it happen.
Surprised you only got the core game. Without the other expansions you're missing a lot of monsters, the bosses, the 2nd heroes for the classes you have plus 2 more classes you're missing (Paladin & Barbarian)
I have a hard rule of never going all in on any large KS. I almost never even play all of what’s offered in just the base games. I rarely feel like I’m missing anything, and I have very, very limited shelf space.
@@TheDungeonDive I hear you. I believe they said the expansion KS is in June or July so if you did want to add anything you missed you probably can then
@@TheDungeonDive completely agree, I would really like to know the stats on how many people ever finish these big box games and needed that extra content they dropped the extra cash on, having said that I do slightly regret not getting the dragon expansion for this. Great vid by the way!
Since I always play SOLO, I love the excessive story reading. I think boardgames are less and less for multiplayer. Even TTRPG are getting SOLO and less and less multiplayer.
For me, even the best written game is more poorly written than the most mediocre novel / story. So when I spend time reading, I want to read a well written novel / story, and when I spend time gaming I want to spend the most of that time playing. This is especially true for solo play. But I know I am increasingly in the minority on this. It seems like most people really want a lot of reading / scripted story in their games these days.
@@TheDungeonDive It is not always the case. Some board games stories are very well written like “Dawn of Madness written by Byron C. Leavitt”. Most of the aren’t. I also liked the writing of Machina Arcana and Warhammer AOS. But I am a slow player, I always take my time, I read every flavour text.
@@MarquisDeSang heyhey depuis que je connais ce jeu, j écoute pleins de vidéos sur Drunagor. J espère qu Ils vont faire 2 vagues de livraison. Sinon je vais attendre une éternité pour y jouer hahahahah
@@guillaumenoel6750 Ca va etre juste 1 vague je suis pas mal certain. Apres ma 2e dose de vaccin, je t'inviterais bien a jouer chez moi, juste pour te faire souffrir. Je te dis, ce jeu la a detroner Mage Knight. Druganor makes Mage Knight looks like Monopoly. En plus moi j'ai un osti de paquet de monstres, pas juste les 3 du jeu de base.
While true, you're still going through the exact same campaign every time. There also isn't enough enemy variety and no random events to come close to being a good random crawler.
This may have been one of your clearest videos in terms of highlighting the pros and cons and just how to go through the game! Kudos! I know you don't label gimmicks as a negative thing - it just has a 'cheap' connotation but I backed this for the gimmicks, knowing that they'd be fun (and isn't that what gaming is about? It being fun?). Also, I know it's a personal thing that you like random-generated game aspects more than scripted ones but I actually am the reverse. My rational is that it allows for the stories to be more coherent and connected, building better dramatic moments that make thematic sense, rather than just having a string of unrelated events occur. But to each their own, right? Anyhoo, great video!
Most people probably like scripted scenarios and stories. I know I’m an outlier in this. :). Thanks!
if i could go back in time i would back this
You can! There is a new campaign on gamefound for CoD Apocalypse. You will be able to order the full AoD set as well as the Apocalypse big expansion!!!
Interesting initial thoughts! I just love the varying elevations characters can traverse on the map, and the fact that they are interactive is even more exciting. When you laid that bridge over the chasm, it kind of blew my mind. I didn't know that was a feature until now. The only thing that gives me pause is those character sheets with all the different innate abilities. I wonder if the number of choices is a bit overwhelming, especially if you play multiple characters. At the same time, it gives you plenty of options in combat, which is always important in games such as these!
It didn't feel overwhelming to me. The abilities are pretty simply, and really intuitive.
Flaws aside it's really one of the best dungeon crawls of the year. I'm impressed with the ideas in the box but I would want a little more refinement if they ever release expansions or a 2nd edition
Ypu can now join the campaign for the upcoming big expansion of Chronicles of Drunagor Apocalypse on Gamefound that is to launch on 20th July!!! Follow the campaign before the release and you will get miniboss expansion for free. What is more, you will be able to get the full set from the previous CoD AoD release
I sold my All in Pledge for good money, but i think with Dungeons of Infinity and Darkest Night 2 Edition new in my collection, i still got enough to play until Stormsunder arrives.
Great Vid as always
For sure!
I have all in Durango and could not afford also Stormsunder. I backed Stormsunder but could not afford it. I hope Stormsunder reprint because I will take it all this time.
Thanks you so much for the video!
My pleasure!
Interesting to see. I was sceptical how you would feel about the game. :)
I was too! I was not expecting to like it as much as I do. However, the nature of the heroes and all the cool choices you have as a player really won me over. It's just so much fun to take your turn! What are your thoughts?
@@TheDungeonDive I think it is a brilliant design.
My biggest pros:
+ cube action system with its satisfying hero turn
+ skill system
+ exploration aspect (especially the interactions book is stellar)
+ the interaction between skills, items and the cube system
My biggest cons:
- too easy (so far) -> QR doors should fix that
- lack of enemy variety (but with all expansions opened it should be less a problem)
- different terrain levels could be used more tactical
Overall: Drunagor has a chance to become one of the best dungeon crawl games out there. I am really excited to see which new design ideas will lurk around the corner in future installments. ;)
Totally. The cube / action system is brilliantly done.
@@TheDungeonDive Absolutely.
@@DieNische yeah. I find it too easy as well. And two weeks ago I had a blast with Dungeon Crusade, that I still recommend more than this one. Now it is time for Destinies.
I'm really hoping the upcoming KS offers a full reprint for this one, I want to give them my money I just hope they let me.
I am a all in backer of this game, and I will buy their upcoming expansion. I wish it would never ends.
They are doing full reprint and an expansion on Gamefound.com they are stepping away from kickstarter platform. It is a phenomenal game. watching the start of this video he has not read the rules or understand the randomness capable with qr cods and single shot rules.
@@jaemusmcnerney1885 Yeah and they will improve everything including the base game in the next reprint with new monster cards with random AI. Every monster will be unpredictable now. Plus so many improvements.
Thank you very much for this overview.
I really like the honest way of which you shared your perspective and thoughts.
Subscribed!
This game look quite over whelming..
May you please share and what are the not-yet-published dungeon crawlers which you are looking for the most? Those which you expect that will blow your mind..? .. probably..?
Thanks for the video. I was interested in the 3d terrain but at the same time being afraid of the cubes lead to complicated rules. But I think you explain it well and I find it not as bad as I thought. Might give it a try in the upcoming Kickstarter campaign.
This action cube system looks kinda neat. I'm intrigued. I had overlooked the reprint on Gamefound, but now I think I might have to late pledge. Looking forward to your extended thoughts.
I enjoyed the Wu Xia genre a lot (Novels / 90s HK movies) and I wish there will be a board game to do the genre justice one day.
But at the same time it will be difficult to get the feeling right (at least for me) as it could easily fall into campy weird eastern genre instead...
Oh yeah! I'm a huge wuxia fan. I own many hundreds of kung fu movies on DVD, and the '90s flying swordsmen stuff are my favorites. I've only read a few of the novels, and I love Legend of the Condor Heroes. So glad it has finally been translated into English!
@@TheDungeonDive Would love to hear you talk about some of your favourite Kung Fu movies. Just throwing it out there. ; )
Worst thing about Kickstarter...by the time I hear about how cool a game is, it's too late to get it.
Usually if the game is good, it will be back.
@@TheDungeonDive True --- I've backed Machina Arcana and Dungeon Universalis reprints thanks to your videos. Maybe this one will have another go-around too.
If there's enough interest they hope to be able to do a reprint when the return to KS this summer, all we can do is spread the word and hope there's enough people wanting it.
They will reprint it this year with a new giant expansion.
it will be on gamefound.com as they are moving away from kickstarter with reprint and expansion.
I also love random scenarios with interesting random things to happen and lots of enemy variety. That's why I'm satisfied with Shadows of Brimstone and don't have to spend money buying other dungeon crawlers.. ;-)
well...also...Shadows of Brimstone demands ALL your money, including any future earnings you could possibly have. Have savings? Why, the latest PM is open, or the new KS campaign is launching, or hey, did you see the newest webstore supplement packs, how about the commander resin minis!? And if you happen to have enough money to buy another dungeon crawler, you cannot, because Shadows of Brimstone is also a space hog monster and refuses to share, all your space belongs to SoB!
*I keep my SoB monster in a magical storage unit of holding.
@@aonline_abridged That's.... true, or course, but you don't need everything.. ;) I don't buy resin minis at least.. ;)
How would one go about buying this gqme at this point? Im new to kickstarter but do know the pledge time is over so like how would you be able to purchase now then??
The developer had made some comments on a possible retail release or reprint could happen in the future but they are currently working on releasing the expansion for this game on a couple months on kickstarter.
@@nick13588 oh cool that would be sweet if it went retail, this game is looking cool! Thanks buddy
@@murph-4 You should follow the creator on Kickstarter and Kickstarter will send you an email whenever they back something or launch a project. This way you know day 1 when the new campaign launches. Also, depending on where you live, you should search for 2nd hand sales, for example board game swap or trade groups on Facebook. The game is delivering now and this is usually the time most people try and sell off their fresh deliveries.
@@aonline_abridged makes sense, thanks for the feedback and tips!
They are hoping to do a full reprint, as long as the numbers are there for the factory.. I'm down already.
This game looks REALLY cool.
Enjoyed the vid a lot. Looks like tons of fresh gaming experience there. Wish I had not skipped this KS. The major thing stopping me backing is the tons of huge boxes. If they run another KS and reduce the packaging (which can also reduce shipping) I will definitely consider this game.
I'm so glad I went with only the base pledge. Seeing everyone and that stack of giant boxes fills me with anxiety!
@@TheDungeonDive The all-in unboxing video of BoardGameCo really sends chills down my spine lol (and probably pocket too had I backed them all). The scripted nature of the campaign is not necessarily a major drawback if the overall design is great enough. Replayability can also come from trying different (combos of) characters and upgrades. Branching story paths are just a nice icing on an already delicious cake. Look forward to hearing you experience after your multi player games.
Hi. Really enjoying your series on smaller games, even though I haven't commented on any of them. With this, I saw it being sold for crazy cash on eBay and tried to remember why I didn't back it at the time. I think it was the ugly plastic terrain modifiers and the fairly bland art style which did for it. Possibly also the limited enemy range (seems a common problem). The character action menu and development look interesting though. I also like a good story driven campaign (absolutely adore Middara so far, with two massive provisos). One thought - might be a tricky game for those without perfect colour vision.
Color blindness is something I think about a lot in games but I don’t talk about it much. It’s something more designers need to pay attention to, and I’m surprised they don’t.
Hey there just wondering if you have any updated thoughts on this game after some more play sessions. I’m trying to figure out how much to add above the base content in the pledge manager and value your opinion 😊
Personally, I almost never recommend anything more than the base pledge for almost any game (there are some exceptions). I got the base pledge plus one small expansion for this, and just the base pledge for the next release. I prefer the game solo. There is a lot of downtime during the game because you have to set a lot of stuff up while playing (setting up the new room when you open the door takes a long time), and this always caused moments of distraction for my group, and made it very hard to keep everyone focused. I also found the story to be lackluster at best. It's yet another game where you read a lot, but the writing and story just aren't any better than the most mediocre fantasy novel. The game is still great at the character level, and the action/combat is super fun.
@@TheDungeonDive thanks so much for the quick response Daniel. I’m actually planning to play this one solo so no issues there. It’s a shame the writing isn’t better however it’s really the combat cube mechanics that appeal to me so sounds like it’ll be a nice light weight dice chucker. Thanks again mate, really appreciate your channel and the content you put out 👍🏻
Chronicles of Drunagor or Arena the Contest?
Haven't played AtC. It doesn't look interesting to me, and the last KS was too expensive, with too much plastic bloat for me at the time.
@@TheDungeonDive I almost wouldn't compare the two as I feel like they're in different weight classes. AtC seems lighter, breezier, and somehow more old school. CoD looks like a much heavier game which, when I'm in the mood for, is also great. I think the two could compliment each other.
Hey Dungeon Dive (Travis) do you like this game enough to back new expansion on Gamefound?
I backed the based pledge only for the new KS.
Thank you. It seems this game is lots of fun to play. Im currently backing just core box, I might add Apocalypse expansion as well
Just watched this video (very insightful), and would like to know what you think of it now 3 months later.
Just stated the campaign with a group last week. We all liked the first game and will continue with it this week.
@@TheDungeonDive Awesome! I'll be looking to pick this up. Would you say the expansion helps the monster variety issue?
Yes. Definitely. After we play the game more I’ll make sure to post some more thoughts with more experience.
@@TheDungeonDive Thanks, looking forward to it.
@@TheDungeonDive one more question - can any monster of any expansion be used for any scenario for added variety, or only specific ones like those from the "Monster Pack"?
I need this game so bad!!!
Hopefully it gets reprinted.
If enough people are interested they'll do a reprint during the apocolypse expansion KS, they said the best thing we can do is spread the word to make it happen.
Surprised you only got the core game. Without the other expansions you're missing a lot of monsters, the bosses, the 2nd heroes for the classes you have plus 2 more classes you're missing (Paladin & Barbarian)
I have a hard rule of never going all in on any large KS. I almost never even play all of what’s offered in just the base games. I rarely feel like I’m missing anything, and I have very, very limited shelf space.
@@TheDungeonDive I hear you. I believe they said the expansion KS is in June or July so if you did want to add anything you missed you probably can then
@@TheDungeonDive completely agree, I would really like to know the stats on how many people ever finish these big box games and needed that extra content they dropped the extra cash on, having said that I do slightly regret not getting the dragon expansion for this. Great vid by the way!
Thank you.
I really hope this goes retail
They are hoping to come back to KS for a expansions at the end of the summer, if there's interest enough they'll do another reprint.
Your top 3 dungeon crawler of 2021?
I have no idea. I don't really keep an on going top of list. Also, way too early to tell.
Another case of Title Metastasis.
It's such a bad name. So generic!
Since I always play SOLO, I love the excessive story reading. I think boardgames are less and less for multiplayer. Even TTRPG are getting SOLO and less and less multiplayer.
For me, even the best written game is more poorly written than the most mediocre novel / story. So when I spend time reading, I want to read a well written novel / story, and when I spend time gaming I want to spend the most of that time playing. This is especially true for solo play. But I know I am increasingly in the minority on this. It seems like most people really want a lot of reading / scripted story in their games these days.
@@TheDungeonDive It is not always the case. Some board games stories are very well written like “Dawn of Madness written by Byron C. Leavitt”. Most of the aren’t. I also liked the writing of Machina Arcana and Warhammer AOS. But I am a slow player, I always take my time, I read every flavour text.
@@MarquisDeSang heyhey depuis que je connais ce jeu, j écoute pleins de vidéos sur Drunagor.
J espère qu Ils vont faire 2 vagues de livraison. Sinon je vais attendre une éternité pour y jouer hahahahah
@@guillaumenoel6750 Ca va etre juste 1 vague je suis pas mal certain. Apres ma 2e dose de vaccin, je t'inviterais bien a jouer chez moi, juste pour te faire souffrir. Je te dis, ce jeu la a detroner Mage Knight. Druganor makes Mage Knight looks like Monopoly. En plus moi j'ai un osti de paquet de monstres, pas juste les 3 du jeu de base.
@@MarquisDeSang hahahah malade. Déjà que Mage Knight ces mon top 1. Ça semble tellement riche Drunagor je capote hahaha
Thanks for the overview, the scripted is not for me. I love random dungeon crawlers
there are random setups avail with rather than using standard there are qr codes on every door you can scan and they add random setups.
While true, you're still going through the exact same campaign every time. There also isn't enough enemy variety and no random events to come close to being a good random crawler.