Really impressive work. My SAS 2019 has the same problem but only getting it to turn on and off. New batteries in the fob and bike but no difference. I sprayed a bit of WD 40 into the switch and pushed it in and out rapidly. It has sorted it for now. I have handle bar muffs so it never gets wet. Freezing cold spell before the trouble started. I will order a new switch when I can afford it but sorted for now. Wish I was as good as you at fixing my bike. Thanks for the best video on this problem.
Great video thanks. I was in two minds about replacing my "race on" switch due to the cost. Mine's a 2019 bike, last month I was touring France from the UK so about 1000 miles from home, I went to power on the bike and there was nothing at all. I pulled all the fuses to check but all were OK, I replaced them and got power on. I was anxious the entire remainder of the trip. I was unsure about the true cause of the failure but suspect corrosion or dirt in the switch. Looks like for peace of mind I'll have to replace it. KTM dealers are aware of this so KTM will be also. At the very least they should supply the new switches at cost. 🤷♂️
Excellent, interesting in depth video. Thank you! I have just bought a KTM 1290 SDR 2022 here in SW France and I hope I do not experience this expensive problem.
Great video explaining the function of each wire. From someone who has been stranded 1000km from home (and a 9 hour ferry trip) with a faulty switch, I'm guessing extracting the yellow and blue wires, touching them briefly together, should get you going again until you can locate another part?
Similar thing has happened to mine but it's an intermittent problem. Back order new part is 6 months away so took the case apart and applied some ACF 50 to the switch. Seems to have fixed it so far
Not sure why KTM had to go keyless, it was never an inconvenience to use a key. I have a 2020 KTM 1290S that just failed in my driveway today, thank god close to home. Had that happened on my trip to the Arctic Circle where would I be? This is bullsh*t technology to be adding to adventure vehicles intended to go long distances into the bush. Thank you for showing the steps to replace, I better order mine up today. Cheers.
i had same problem... because of the rain there was corrosion inside the switch! because it was broke I dismantled the inner switch completely. used a dremel to remove corrosion and now working again.
Great video. KTM should be honest and recall this switch and replace at the dealership free of charge. With a better unit of course. My issue on a 2019 SDGT is similar but definitely not turning on and off as demonstrated in the video. Mine simply will not turn on. When finally on sometimes will not turn off. I was told by a KTM technician (because it actually happened at the dealership one time) is the computer is freezing up. And if worst comes to worst disconnect the batter and allow the computer to reboot. Well great KTM!! Now I have seen this switch problem I realize maybe that has been the issue all along. It has got to the point where I am no longer confident this motorcycle will power up at any time, at any place. There seems to be no common time, like first start up. I have stopped somewhere for lunch and I come out and nothing. It takes me 30 minutes to get the thing to power up. I don't even like this key fob start up crap. Give me a key anyday..... Contacting my dealer anyway, just to let them know I won't be buying a KTM again. Hopefully the message will get back to the factory and they will finally do something about it. This is obviously a major issue. There was even a motorcycle news journalist in the UK that was doing a long term test on a SDGT and had a similar problem. And he for stuck in the middle of nowhere. Bike would not power up. NOT GOOD KTM!! Gettin more pissed 😤
Thank you for taking the time to do this video. This is the best video on here for this topic. Similar issue with mine, but has only happened a few times. By chance do you know the NEW part number for the switch?
There is a easy solution to your ktm 1290 switch its self on and off. Make sure the main key (the one with the battery in it) is far enough away from the bike so it cant be picked up by the race on button. Then using the key that doesn't have a battery, hold the key on the inside of the left hand panel, its marked where to hold the key and push the race on button.and it should be ok. It qorked for me when l had this problem
Yes that would work. Guess you could pull the battery from the keyless fob for the same effect. Didn't think of that at the time. Still has to be fixed but.
I had limited success with WD40. Absolutely drowned the switch in it the second time it played up and it came good for a few months, until winter that is.
Wish KTM took ownership there is a few issues with the bike & did a recall. Would be nice to see, we need these issues fixed. i have a 2019 model with the same issues! My hazzards don't work, left rear signal & sometimes the bike will power on & off by itself.
Delears need to step up as well. When my switch first died My bloke denied it had ever happened before. A quick internet search and he could have set himself straight. Lol.
@@mostlymotorcycles. I opened mine up at it happened again! Very annoyed, it is also the new designed switch as I have a 2019 model. I tried a heat gun no use, WD-40 worked but my hazzards don't work. Don't really care about those anyways. I'll prob change my switch soon, hopfully it'll last a few weeks at least.
Mine never faild after the replacement. But I sold it 8 months later. Bought the 22 model. It has completely different switches. Points to the fact they new they had issues with the old design. Hope u get it sorted.
@@mostlymotorcycles. I bought a new switch for my 1290R. Guy that is installing it says it's about 6-8hours laber all in. Apparently he had to remove the tank, air filter & headlight assembly. Wonder how much this bill is gonna be..
Youre very brave taking a 500dollar switch apart , bloody hell !!. Had trouble, like many others, with the left hand switch on my GT, poorly designed and made in India I think. Spoiling the ship for happorth of tar..
@@mostlymotorcycles. I’ve tried everything, removed and disassembled the button, tried some relays, checked lines.everything seems to be dry and ok. It goes to the shop tomorrow, the main problem is that I have no warranty since it’s a 2017, I have up to 30k kilometers in it. I love the bike, lots of power and a beautiful ride way, but I guess I will move on to a Japanese one, those don’t have issues ever. Most of the problems I had with this bike have been electric. If I’m able to fix it I’ll share it here so people can trouble shoot how to fix it
@@mostlymotorcycles. Yes, i also tried with another starter button, but ihas the same result, we checked wires and conectors for water or any other stuff that might create the problem. Right now is in the shop, ill check what is the glitch and let you know
@@mostlymotorcycles. I just left the motorcycle naked in the sun (Removed Fairings and the Tank) for 2 days. Reconnected everything and it started working fine, i guess some connectors or anything like that got wet. But so far it seems to be working perfectly. My biggest fear is that the issue appears again and since i checked everything it doesn't make sense that the cause of that failure is moist. What will happen if i decide to get into a river or anything related? Well at least its working now! Thanks for the pointer in this video, it was the closest i got to the issue i had
@@mostlymotorcycles. totally agree maybe it's because they have a niche market as KTM dealers seem to be few and far between. Needles to say I managed a uses switch like new with 6 months warranty. I'll be taking the old one apart though. 🤣
My 2018 SAR switch was changed on warranty last year after intermittent failures. First failure was electronic interference from cars in concrete parking garages. Then finally it failed several restarts after bike washes. It fired up eventually, but was deemed unreliable and my excellent KTM dealership swapped it on warranty since the electronic interference was duly reported to them within warrant. No worries since ;-)
Really impressive work. My SAS 2019 has the same problem but only getting it to turn on and off. New batteries in the fob and bike but no difference. I sprayed a bit of WD 40 into the switch and pushed it in and out rapidly. It has sorted it for now. I have handle bar muffs so it never gets wet. Freezing cold spell before the trouble started. I will order a new switch when I can afford it but sorted for now. Wish I was as good as you at fixing my bike. Thanks for the best video on this problem.
Excellent investigative work.
Great video thanks. I was in two minds about replacing my "race on" switch due to the cost. Mine's a 2019 bike, last month I was touring France from the UK so about 1000 miles from home, I went to power on the bike and there was nothing at all. I pulled all the fuses to check but all were OK, I replaced them and got power on. I was anxious the entire remainder of the trip. I was unsure about the true cause of the failure but suspect corrosion or dirt in the switch. Looks like for peace of mind I'll have to replace it. KTM dealers are aware of this so KTM will be also. At the very least they should supply the new switches at cost. 🤷♂️
Excellent, interesting in depth video. Thank you! I have just bought a KTM 1290 SDR 2022 here in SW France and I hope I do not experience this expensive problem.
Thanks, you saved me a lot of time for searching for a solution.
great work, like the big clive reference as well!
Great comprehensive video, have same issue. Thanks!
Great video explaining the function of each wire. From someone who has been stranded 1000km from home (and a 9 hour ferry trip) with a faulty switch, I'm guessing extracting the yellow and blue wires, touching them briefly together, should get you going again until you can locate another part?
Similar thing has happened to mine but it's an intermittent problem. Back order new part is 6 months away so took the case apart and applied some ACF 50 to the switch. Seems to have fixed it so far
Awesome video very logical explanation but unfortunately did not solve the issue on my 1290 SAS
Sorry to here your still having problems.
KTM electrics are always difficult fixes.
Not sure why KTM had to go keyless, it was never an inconvenience to use a key. I have a 2020 KTM 1290S that just failed in my driveway today, thank god close to home. Had that happened on my trip to the Arctic Circle where would I be? This is bullsh*t technology to be adding to adventure vehicles intended to go long distances into the bush. Thank you for showing the steps to replace, I better order mine up today. Cheers.
i had same problem... because of the rain there was corrosion inside the switch! because it was broke I dismantled the inner switch completely. used a dremel to remove corrosion and now working again.
Great video. KTM should be honest and recall this switch and replace at the dealership free of charge. With a better unit of course. My issue on a 2019 SDGT is similar but definitely not turning on and off as demonstrated in the video. Mine simply will not turn on. When finally on sometimes will not turn off. I was told by a KTM technician (because it actually happened at the dealership one time) is the computer is freezing up. And if worst comes to worst disconnect the batter and allow the computer to reboot. Well great KTM!! Now I have seen this switch problem I realize maybe that has been the issue all along. It has got to the point where I am no longer confident this motorcycle will power up at any time, at any place. There seems to be no common time, like first start up. I have stopped somewhere for lunch and I come out and nothing. It takes me 30 minutes to get the thing to power up. I don't even like this key fob start up crap. Give me a key anyday.....
Contacting my dealer anyway, just to let them know I won't be buying a KTM again. Hopefully the message will get back to the factory and they will finally do something about it. This is obviously a major issue. There was even a motorcycle news journalist in the UK that was doing a long term test on a SDGT and had a similar problem. And he for stuck in the middle of nowhere. Bike would not power up. NOT GOOD KTM!! Gettin more pissed 😤
Sux alright. Mine was out of Warranty. And the service manager denied there was any issue with the switch.
Was easier to just fix it myself.
o have the problem in the left hand swich for the menu don't work at All , my is SAR 2022
Great video 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you for taking the time to do this video. This is the best video on here for this topic. Similar issue with mine, but has only happened a few times. By chance do you know the NEW part number for the switch?
Sorry haven't got
New part Number is 61411174100 😇
Vidéo explicative claire, sans aucun doute un sérieux problème chez KTM, inadmissible, et 194 euros....et je suis concerné sur ADV.s
If only I could translate...
Had a similar issue with the 4 way switch in the LHS side of my 1190. You think your switch was expensive 😂
I have the following problem, the cable connection has moistured so that i cannot unluck nor turn on...
There is a easy solution to your ktm 1290 switch its self on and off. Make sure the main key (the one with the battery in it) is far enough away from the bike so it cant be picked up by the race on button. Then using the key that doesn't have a battery, hold the key on the inside of the left hand panel, its marked where to hold the key and push the race on button.and it should be ok. It qorked for me when l had this problem
Yes that would work. Guess you could pull the battery from the keyless fob for the same effect. Didn't think of that at the time.
Still has to be fixed but.
What would you recommend to waterproof the switch?
I had limited success with WD40. Absolutely drowned the switch in it the second time it played up and it came good for a few months, until winter that is.
Wish KTM took ownership there is a few issues with the bike & did a recall. Would be nice to see, we need these issues fixed. i have a 2019 model with the same issues! My hazzards don't work, left rear signal & sometimes the bike will power on & off by itself.
Delears need to step up as well.
When my switch first died My bloke denied it had ever happened before.
A quick internet search and he could have set himself straight. Lol.
@@mostlymotorcycles. I opened mine up at it happened again! Very annoyed, it is also the new designed switch as I have a 2019 model. I tried a heat gun no use, WD-40 worked but my hazzards don't work. Don't really care about those anyways. I'll prob change my switch soon, hopfully it'll last a few weeks at least.
Mine never faild after the replacement.
But I sold it 8 months later.
Bought the 22 model. It has completely different switches. Points to the fact they new they had issues with the old design.
Hope u get it sorted.
@@mostlymotorcycles. I bought a new switch for my 1290R. Guy that is installing it says it's about 6-8hours laber all in. Apparently he had to remove the tank, air filter & headlight assembly. Wonder how much this bill is gonna be..
I don't know about the light. But the tank
Has to come out. Lots of work to get to one little connector.
I experienced this problem while riding once 3 days after bike was washed, screen restarted and bike work normaly
Youre very brave taking a 500dollar switch apart , bloody hell !!. Had trouble, like many others, with the left hand switch on my GT, poorly designed and made in India I think. Spoiling the ship for happorth of tar..
I recommend coating the bike in Acf-50
10x Mann 💪🏻😎🤟🏻🌍🌏🌎
Same thing is happening to me, I have switched the switch but issue keeps happening
That Sux. Ive only seen it related to the switch. Does it still happen with the connectors unplugged?
@@mostlymotorcycles. I’ve tried everything, removed and disassembled the button, tried some relays, checked lines.everything seems to be dry and ok. It goes to the shop tomorrow, the main problem is that I have no warranty since it’s a 2017, I have up to 30k kilometers in it. I love the bike, lots of power and a beautiful ride way, but I guess I will move on to a Japanese one, those don’t have issues ever. Most of the problems I had with this bike have been electric. If I’m able to fix it I’ll share it here so people can trouble shoot how to fix it
@@mostlymotorcycles. Yes, i also tried with another starter button, but ihas the same result, we checked wires and conectors for water or any other stuff that might create the problem. Right now is in the shop, ill check what is the glitch and let you know
Will be interesting to find out the cause.
@@mostlymotorcycles. I just left the motorcycle naked in the sun (Removed Fairings and the Tank) for 2 days. Reconnected everything and it started working fine, i guess some connectors or anything like that got wet. But so far it seems to be working perfectly. My biggest fear is that the issue appears again and since i checked everything it doesn't make sense that the cause of that failure is moist. What will happen if i decide to get into a river or anything related? Well at least its working now! Thanks for the pointer in this video, it was the closest i got to the issue i had
My gen 3 super duke needs the left hand switch gear dealer wouldn’t even give me a price without taking the bike in shocking service and quality.
Bad customer service from a dealer always reflects badly on the Manufacturer. I never understand why they don't stamp that kind of BS out.
@@mostlymotorcycles. totally agree maybe it's because they have a niche market as KTM dealers seem to be few and far between.
Needles to say I managed a uses switch like new with 6 months warranty.
I'll be taking the old one apart though. 🤣
My 2018 SAR switch was changed on warranty last year after intermittent failures. First failure was electronic interference from cars in concrete parking garages. Then finally it failed several restarts after bike washes. It fired up eventually, but was deemed unreliable and my excellent KTM dealership swapped it on warranty since the electronic interference was duly reported to them within warrant. No worries since ;-)
Good to here there's some honest dealers out there.
Interesting information about the car park interference.
Should have tried a good will claim with ktm aus under consumer law mate..
9/10 times ktm will pay for the part and you pay for the labour