Negative. Yes the spoilers/speed brakes deploy upon weight on wheels but ailerons do not. When landing in a crosswind you still need to have aileron input to counter the crosswind so the ailerons are being manipulated through the pilot flyings yoke/side stick inputs for the cross wind correction. Maybe you’re getting a little co fused with an aircraft such as a 777. That aircraft has flaperons which will adjust to the degree of flap setting but also act as an aileron
This answer is detailed but we have some smart people on here that want to know. Ground Spoilers: 1) Increase drag 2) Spoil lift which improves brake effectiveness 3) During rejected takeoff or at touchdown deploy to 55 degrees 4) read carefully - Ailerons FULLY deploy trailing edge up. However, full roll authority STILL available for crosswinds 5) deploy automatically when a) BOTH throttles at idle AND b) both main gear indicate on ground via the WOW (weight on wheels) and/or wheel spin. You are going to ask about a bounced landing and/or go around arent you? If aircraft bounces during landing and Radio Altimeter < 10' then spoilers remain deployed to assist with the landing. If RA > 10' spoilers retract to assist go around. Now you ask about auto stow of ground spoilers: During rollout with airspeed and wheel speed < 42 kts for 10 seconds gives you auto stow. If go-around indcations are present ie either throttle not at idle OR with the combination of the following WOW in air mode; Slow wheel spinup; and RA > 10 ' . Three spoiler panels on each wing: Inboard, Midboard, Outboard. They provide mulitple functions. Flight Control spoiler, Speed brakes, and ground spoilers. Electrically controlled Hydraulickly actuated. Easy - think of it this way, Electrically controlled - just as your kitchen lights are at home but hydraulicaly actuated. A hydraulical pump is neccessary to move these panels against very powerful airflow over the wing. Inboards are on the right hydraulic system, Midboards are on the left system and Outboards are, you guessed it - on the right hydraulic system PLUS the EBHA system. EBHA is a battery that powers the Emergency Battery Hydraulic Assist in case of loss of hydraulic system fluid. Yes, I have been suding for my recurrent. Knot just a pretty face. Be well Captain Reed.
No, I fly the 600, no arming, no nutcracker switch. Crew should atleast use autothrottles to touchdown - God and Gulfstream designed it for that. I like to handfly a lot especially inside the marker. I did not hear the 1,000 foot "Stable" approach call. I do not see the checklist on the panel - probably buried on the bottom rght courner of screen 4 where only co pilot can see it. Why have fixes displayed on screen 3?
Captain Oz, if you fly the G IV you will love the G V, the 550 is a dream machine and the G500 / 600 is an aircraft out of the future. Gulfstream knows how to do it. The 500 / 600 was designed on a clean sheet of paper.
If Gulfstream G500/G600 has touchscreens in their cockpit, then other airplanes should has cockpit design that uses touchscreens display similar to Honeywell's Symmetry Flight Decks.
Ten touchscreens in cockpit. Captain has two (touch screen TSC 1 & 2 , copilot has two, TSC 3 & 4, jump seat has one TSC 5, overhead has three Over Head Pilot Touch Screens (OHPTS 1, 2, & 3), the two Standby Flight Displays (SFD) for a total of ten. The Captains number 1 TSC has a few things it can NOT do beacause there are certain thing (s)he should NOT being doing, things best left to right seater. Jump seat TSC 5, has some extra things it can do, mechanic duties or Flight attendent duties. Touch screens manufactured by Apple to Gulfstream's specs. TSC 1 - 5 interchangeable, OHPTS 1 - 3 interchangeable. MMEL states can depart with one OHPTS inop, Captain and copilot can have one inop, pilots can NOT have two TSC inop on one side.
need a shoehorn to get into that place. mountains on each side producing unpredictable winds on short final. bring your A game to get in here. nicely done.
He was changing the heading incrementally because if you overshoot it by 180° and more, your plane will suddenly start turning in the other direction.. which is something you really don't want.
JLNYardBird it is the HUD. A projector above pilot seat send images and the glass react like a cinema screen but transparent so the eyes can both see beyond it ( the actual runway, for example ) and the projected image too. The projected image usually shows the data available also on the PFD ( the big screen in front of the pilot ) like attitude, speed, altitude, vertical speed, flight path etc, plus a synthetic runway and, if the aircraft is quipped with a FLIR, it can also see the infrared image from the thermocamera
@@wgeffon However not using autothrottles and speed all over the place. I hope no pax onboard and hope your insurance doesnt see this crew in action. Professional crews do way better.
@@atpg5 Well ya… it certainly could be done better. I know of a highly experienced flight department who have been flying the GVII Series for almost as long as those planes have been out. Their policy is AT’s off for landing and they adjust speed to be at Vref over the numbers. They are manually taking out the additive. I’m not sure why they do this but, it works for them. It can’t be for landing distance concerns. This plane stops extremely well.
@@wgeffon Interesting. One of the TWO most likely times a flight can get into trouble and they turn off automation. The autothrottle does a great job of holding airspeed. Gulfstream FlightSafety teaches Ref + 5 in a calm enviroment. These guys are hotdogs and the Standarization Captain must pull his her hair out. Thank you for posting and replying. Be well sir.
@@atpg5 Yes the AT’s do a good job. However, yesterday on landing our additive was +5 based on winds on the ground. It was a very warm day with lots of lifting and sinking air on final. At one point, we were in an area of sink and I had the AP off with the AT’s on. The +5 additive wasn’t enough. I went to MAN speed and added 5 more kts and that helped a lot. It’s just one of those things were you have to be vigilant. Even though you are flying the correct speed and profile, intervention may be needed based on current, in air conditions. Gulfstream’s PLP (Predictive Landing Performance) is now in use on the G700. It constantly evaluates landing performance based on active conditions. At some point, that technology will be available on the GVII series.
Not to talk about the polls light and power lines on the road on that final. A GIV hit those about a Year ago. There is nothing wrong requesting a 360 if being vector and then clear for a visual while high and fast.
Justin Adams im talking about the approach here. Which was completely unstable. Also it was an undesirable state, and they end up with throttles on idle at almost 500ft AGL. If you find that is a great job because the landing looks soft to you, there is nothing else to talk ;)
@@astraflyr 🤦♂️ Thats just a pre recorded track of people laughing and talking. They do that so the pilots get used to it. Simulators can only hold about 3 people. The pilots and the simulator director.
Scotty Weißmüller seriously? I need to get used to people chattering in the background? G450 Pilot here. He banged the nose gear pretty good. That doesn’t happen in the sim. You need to land a Gulfstream twice. Mains then nose gear.
Nope. Looked good. No excessive sink rate and he placed it right in the touchdown zone. The trouble with a small runway like this would be floating so he did exactly right on getting it on the ground and deploying TRs immediately.
I looked after this aircraft when it visited Execujet in Melbourne, Australia... Beautiful aircraft!
Unstabilised cowboy approach
Agreed.
Amazing to see all the ships in the ocean between 0:17 and 0:49!!
Wow, Ferrari of the sky....the cockpit alone, the amount of technology...
Yeah, that is a modern cockpit, look , Boeing!
Outstanding video
Hard landing!
Браво лётчики.Счастливого полета.
My hometown
Really got rough there for a bit!
Before 1000' high after 1000' low
Is it for terrain near the short final?
what is the headset that the right hand seat pilot using anybody knows??
Upon landing, do the ailerons come up to provide aerodynamic drag like the boards? Thanks in advance.
Miles Reed - Yes, since it’s fly-by-wire they deploy on touchdown to increase aero-dynamic braking.
Negative. Yes the spoilers/speed brakes deploy upon weight on wheels but ailerons do not. When landing in a crosswind you still need to have aileron input to counter the crosswind so the ailerons are being manipulated through the pilot flyings yoke/side stick inputs for the cross wind correction. Maybe you’re getting a little co fused with an aircraft such as a 777. That aircraft has flaperons which will adjust to the degree of flap setting but also act as an aileron
@@aronjordan8023 Incorrect. JDP above is correct. Upon landing, the G600's ailerons do in fact act as spoilers.
This answer is detailed but we have some smart people on here that want to know. Ground Spoilers: 1) Increase drag 2) Spoil lift which improves brake effectiveness 3) During rejected takeoff or at touchdown deploy to 55 degrees 4) read carefully - Ailerons FULLY deploy trailing edge up. However, full roll authority STILL available for crosswinds 5) deploy automatically when a) BOTH throttles at idle AND b) both main gear indicate on ground via the WOW (weight on wheels) and/or wheel spin. You are going to ask about a bounced landing and/or go around arent you? If aircraft bounces during landing and Radio Altimeter < 10' then spoilers remain deployed to assist with the landing. If RA > 10' spoilers retract to assist go around. Now you ask about auto stow of ground spoilers: During rollout with airspeed and wheel speed < 42 kts for 10 seconds gives you auto stow. If go-around indcations are present ie either throttle not at idle OR with the combination of the following WOW in air mode; Slow wheel spinup; and RA > 10 ' . Three spoiler panels on each wing: Inboard, Midboard, Outboard. They provide mulitple functions. Flight Control spoiler, Speed brakes, and ground spoilers. Electrically controlled Hydraulickly actuated. Easy - think of it this way, Electrically controlled - just as your kitchen lights are at home but hydraulicaly actuated. A hydraulical pump is neccessary to move these panels against very powerful airflow over the wing. Inboards are on the right hydraulic system, Midboards are on the left system and Outboards are, you guessed it - on the right hydraulic system PLUS the EBHA system. EBHA is a battery that powers the Emergency Battery Hydraulic Assist in case of loss of hydraulic system fluid. Yes, I have been suding for my recurrent. Knot just a pretty face. Be well Captain Reed.
Looks like a flight test certification aircraft.
Does the G500 have to arm the spoilers in the same way as the G4, do you still do the nutcracker test prior to landing?
@@patrickporter08 I know they are auto, but do you arm them the same way as the G4 via a switch and throttle position.
Ozgrade3 Australia no. There is no nutcracker test or arm switch anymore.
No, I fly the 600, no arming, no nutcracker switch. Crew should atleast use autothrottles to touchdown - God and Gulfstream designed it for that. I like to handfly a lot especially inside the marker. I did not hear the 1,000 foot "Stable" approach call. I do not see the checklist on the panel - probably buried on the bottom rght courner of screen 4 where only co pilot can see it. Why have fixes displayed on screen 3?
Captain Oz, if you fly the G IV you will love the G V, the 550 is a dream machine and the G500 / 600 is an aircraft out of the future. Gulfstream knows how to do it. The 500 / 600 was designed on a clean sheet of paper.
If Gulfstream G500/G600 has touchscreens in their cockpit, then other airplanes should has cockpit design that uses touchscreens display similar to Honeywell's Symmetry Flight Decks.
Ten touchscreens in cockpit. Captain has two (touch screen TSC 1 & 2 , copilot has two, TSC 3 & 4, jump seat has one TSC 5, overhead has three Over Head Pilot Touch Screens (OHPTS 1, 2, & 3), the two Standby Flight Displays (SFD) for a total of ten. The Captains number 1 TSC has a few things it can NOT do beacause there are certain thing (s)he should NOT being doing, things best left to right seater. Jump seat TSC 5, has some extra things it can do, mechanic duties or Flight attendent duties. Touch screens manufactured by Apple to Gulfstream's specs. TSC 1 - 5 interchangeable, OHPTS 1 - 3 interchangeable. MMEL states can depart with one OHPTS inop, Captain and copilot can have one inop, pilots can NOT have two TSC inop on one side.
On short final while crossing over the highway, it sure looked like a SIM lol! The vehicles looked fake.
need a shoehorn to get into that place. mountains on each side producing unpredictable winds on short final. bring your A game to get in here. nicely done.
question: iddle at 200ft????? A/T was working?
Thats because the speed was like 20 kts above the Vref
@@swagger0539 And that is because pilot did not use autothrolles.
cowboy style flying...if I'd afford such an expensive plane, I'd better get some professional pilots who would not try to kill me.
Jesus, how long does it take the pilot to turn that speed setting knob? I thought there was a problem with it.
I think he was turning the heading.
He was changing the heading incrementally because if you overshoot it by 180° and more, your plane will suddenly start turning in the other direction.. which is something you really don't want.
Ya just gotta love the letters 'L' and 'R' to remind all their left from their right
I believe those are the switches for the engine fire extinguishers.
@@nocalsteve Sounds logical
What does the piece of glass in front of the pilot provide?
It shows the menu of food they can request from the flight attendant
JLNYardBird it is the HUD. A projector above pilot seat send images and the glass react like a cinema screen but transparent so the eyes can both see beyond it ( the actual runway, for example ) and the projected image too. The projected image usually shows the data available also on the PFD ( the big screen in front of the pilot ) like attitude, speed, altitude, vertical speed, flight path etc, plus a synthetic runway and, if the aircraft is quipped with a FLIR, it can also see the infrared image from the thermocamera
Manual speed short final? Auto would be ref + 5 I’d assume. Adding a bit for gusts?
You can MAN Speed your additive above Ref or you can set it in the TSC to Auto Speed the additive.
@@wgeffon However not using autothrottles and speed all over the place. I hope no pax onboard and hope your insurance doesnt see this crew in action. Professional crews do way better.
@@atpg5 Well ya… it certainly could be done better. I know of a highly experienced flight department who have been flying the GVII Series for almost as long as those planes have been out. Their policy is AT’s off for landing and they adjust speed to be at Vref over the numbers. They are manually taking out the additive. I’m not sure why they do this but, it works for them. It can’t be for landing distance concerns. This plane stops extremely well.
@@wgeffon Interesting. One of the TWO most likely times a flight can get into trouble and they turn off automation. The autothrottle does a great job of holding airspeed. Gulfstream FlightSafety teaches Ref + 5 in a calm enviroment. These guys are hotdogs and the Standarization Captain must pull his her hair out. Thank you for posting and replying. Be well sir.
@@atpg5 Yes the AT’s do a good job. However, yesterday on landing our additive was +5 based on winds on the ground. It was a very warm day with lots of lifting and sinking air on final. At one point, we were in an area of sink and I had the AP off with the AT’s on. The +5 additive wasn’t enough. I went to MAN speed and added 5 more kts and that helped a lot. It’s just one of those things were you have to be vigilant. Even though you are flying the correct speed and profile, intervention may be needed based on current, in air conditions. Gulfstream’s PLP (Predictive Landing Performance) is now in use on the G700. It constantly evaluates landing performance based on active conditions. At some point, that technology will be available on the GVII series.
aiming point
50ft above the roadway and not runway?
Not to talk about the polls light and power lines on the road on that final. A GIV hit those about a Year ago. There is nothing wrong requesting a 360 if being vector and then clear for a visual while high and fast.
Bumpy landing
It looks they had a high sink rate, requiring idle thrust, onto the final to maintain V ref, Awesome job though!!
its a terrible job, undesirable state is a contribution factor to accidents.
@@Carlonsho better to be high and hot than low and slow
Justin Adams eehhh no, better to be stable!
Carlonsho stable landing’s are ideal. But any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. 😉
Justin Adams im talking about the approach here. Which was completely unstable. Also it was an undesirable state, and they end up with throttles on idle at almost 500ft AGL. If you find that is a great job because the landing looks soft to you, there is nothing else to talk ;)
TG
I know I am old and old school but it looks like 10X more work screwing with all that pretty stuff up there than just flying the damned airplane!
it's not, grandpa
I’m confident you’re right on the money with 2 out of three of your assertions.. :)
No. There is actually very little to do.
Great vid but it didn’t look real, sorry I know it is but the ground the runway and the movement looked artificial. Strange must be the way I see it.
Because its not dumbass this is a simulator
Scotty Weißmüller big simulator to have all those people talking in the back after landing.
@@astraflyr 🤦♂️ Thats just a pre recorded track of people laughing and talking. They do that so the pilots get used to it. Simulators can only hold about 3 people. The pilots and the simulator director.
Scotty Weißmüller seriously? I need to get used to people chattering in the background? G450 Pilot here. He banged the nose gear pretty good. That doesn’t happen in the sim. You need to land a Gulfstream twice. Mains then nose gear.
@@scottyweimuller6152 This is not a simulator.
Cant afford the G700 could you? 😂
Scotty Weißmüller couldn’t afford the private jet could you ?!
@@imrankutianawala1815 Dont have to, my label pays for it. G5s are pretty awesome but not my favorite to fly in.
Hard landing!!!
Nope. Looked good. No excessive sink rate and he placed it right in the touchdown zone. The trouble with a small runway like this would be floating so he did exactly right on getting it on the ground and deploying TRs immediately.