How to respond to the Jehovah's Witness at your door? Story 50
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Respond to Jehovah's Witnesses with gentleness and respect. As a young man I got involved in speaking with Jehovah's Witnesses. Arguments polarise so how can we discuss our differences in order to determine the Truth? The bible not only tells us the truth but also tells us the attitude we should have.
Story Number 50
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As a result of this video I got a few comments about my support of the doctrine of the Trinity. People said it didn't make sense - so I made this video in response czcams.com/video/HcWBFgWO8Vk/video.html
You are right in the trinity they are 3 in one.
God the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.
I'm not a Catholic...this is displayed in the Bible.
You cannot repent to anyone only Jesus.
He created this world and all its content even what we own is his...Jesus said I sit at the right of God the Father and do not consider it robbery to do so
For He and I are one
Righty tighty lefty loosey for the spanner lol 😂
How do you explain Acts 7:55,56?But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand, 56 and he said: “Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.
Where the third person of the trinity?
I am an ex-JW. Thank you for being kind to them. They have such a sad life to begin with, and being unkind to them makes them all the more convinced they are right and are being persecuted.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I’ve found that most people come to know Our Lord Jesus through the kindness that is shown them rather than arguments that devastate them or behaviour that isolates them. The JWs I have met with have generally been sincere people who want to do what is right. Their dedication to their beliefs are strong. Unfortunately sincerity and dedication to the wrong Jesus is of no value. I have been appalled by the behaviour of some of my church people towards them and wanted to focus this short video on the attitude we should have towards them, of gentleness and respect. God loves them and wants them in his family. Thank you again for your encouragement.
@@MikesStoryNumber
Indeed !!
Well Stated ! 🙂
@@akatheheretic3014 thank you for your encouragement.
"They are right and being persecuted."
Thay shows how dumbed down they are snd how useless they are in using (?) their own brain.
@@robertgrey6101 thanks for watching and commenting. Not sure I understand your comment. God bless you.
Mike, you're such a character. This video is educational and entertaining! Thanks for this.
Thanks Niqui! For watching and commenting. I’m thrilled you enjoyed it. I’m an old bloke, as you could see, trying to work out how to tell the stories I told my kids on social media. Feel free to check out my channel at CZcams.com/c/mikesstorynumber I see you have a great channel so any tips would be appreciated…..my singing though is not a patch on yours 😂😂. God bless.
I have enjoyed your episode 😄
Really good. Yes JWs can't tolerate the truth.
Yet every one deserves respect.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate your encouragement. God bless
nor can you!!
@@mrm8850 your right that truth can be hard to accept especially when we have come from a strong view or culture that has defined truth for us. We have to be prepared to challenge and question. You may appreciate the thoughts expressed in this video czcams.com/video/g51ZYBFwed4/video.html
I love this video. Former JW here and got yelled at a million times at doors. Ironically, JWs, for the most part, hate “service” (preaching). You must do it because they collect your time in “service”. No “service” and you’d be looked down upon/not good association. I grew up in this cult. Cult is a serious term but it fits this group to the T. It’s a high control group that basically molds your thinking and actions. As I grew up, I only knew how to spew their beliefs and hearing other’s thoughts on religion were listened to politely as long as that person was 1) not trying to say something negative at all about JW beliefs or 2) try and convert me 3) tell me why my religion was wrong.
Have pity on those still in this cult. It’s a miserable experience. Even if they know this is not the “truth” any longer, most can’t get out. They lose everyone in their lives once they “leave”. (The organization slowly makes you give up everyone who is not a JW as they consider them bad association. The organization’s goal is to make you isolated.)
Great story Mike. God Bless. 🌸
Thank you for your insightful comments. I'm so sorry you got yelled at a million times. I remember often seeing them with their little children in tow going from door to door and I would feel so sorry for the kids not the most exciting way to spend a day I imagine. I am so glad that you have gotten out of the JW's. I expect that you have quite a story as you say they isolate you so it would take tremendous courage to break away. Thank you for watching and commenting on my video. I hope that you have found a faith community that supports you and Jesus who accepts you unconditionally. God was never about control but about freedom, he says "you will know the truth and the truth will set you free". I would love to know your story.God Bless
@@MikesStoryNumber "God was never about control but about freedom" > That statement is patently false. Have you read the old testament?
@@caribbeanman3379 sure and it’s important to understand it in its context here is a good video which gives a good overview czcams.com/video/ALsluAKBZ-c/video.html
@@MikesStoryNumber Facts are facts. You can spin it all you want. The fact is, contrary to your comment, the God of the Bible *has been* controlling of his worshippers and putting limits on their freedoms. Stop lying.
@@caribbeanman3379 I imagine that you consider yourself free. Do you have boundaries? Are there some things that you wouldn't do yourself? Having healthy boundaries in our lives are important. I'm a parent and as my kids grew I tried to encourage them to have boundaries too as I knew that our actions have consequences. how do you react when someone crosses one of your boundaries. What if someone hurts you or steals from you how do you react? Do those people criticise you for being controlling??? Or do you believe they owe you some decent behaviour?
As an ex jw this was hilarious, great!
Thanks for watching and commenting! So glad to receive feedback from a person familiar with the jw faith! What are you now that you are an ex jw? And did you ever meet in your visits as a jw a Christian that responded to you with gentleness and respect?
What was Funny again??
You love doing these videos, don't you? My dad told me the only way to respond to them was to ask them first to pray with you. They can't do that but sometimes it opens the door. New subscriber here.
That’s an approach I haven’t heard of before. Thanks for that. And super thanks for being a subscriber, I feel very honoured to have you subscribing to my channel. Thank you for your encouragement. God bless.
@@MikesStoryNumber All different churches including exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible?????????
All different churches including exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible??‽???????
Why can't they pray with you?
@@kihntagious There are many reasons they will give you. If you Google it, it will be explained. I never really understood it as a young girl but I remember my father telling me that.
Jehovah's Witnesses have one way and it's their way. They will preach to you over and over again but if you try to do the same you are white noise. Never be misled. They are at your door for one reason. And that reason has nothing to do with what you think or feel. Convert or they are off.
Sadly true in many cases and a lesson to all of us. Are we only interested in the people who agree with us? Do we only care for those who come around to our way of thinking 🤔? Jesus calls us to love even our enemies. Thanks for watching and commenting. God bless.
Si sono interessati solo a se stessi ,si fanno vedere interessato a te per visite ulterori e solo se dai segni di interessamento alle loro dottrine per arrivare al tuo battesimo come socio aderente alla societa WATCHTOWER, dopo inizierai a fare graduitamente il postino di casa in casa per la società Watchtower e dovrai contribuire tutta la vita a dare qualunque cosa essa pubblica sulle riviste e ti diranno che per te e un privileggio da L'ITALIA SALUTI?
yes and no!!
@@mrm8850 part of the problem is truly seeing people as worthy. As people that God so loved that he suffered the indignity of torture and death. Not just as a potential convert to our way of thinking.
That's the ticket Paul...send 'em packin' Christ is not here yet Paul...when He comes every eye will see him...the sky will roll back as a scroll, with a shout , trumpets will sound and the voice of an arc Angel and you guessed it those who are not ready
Will wish they had of listened and read the Bible and formed a relationship with God.
Everything has the right to believe or not
What about you...I'm hoping you believe...
I shared a house with a few other guys. I was home sick one day and this elderly JW turns up at the door. It started raining heavily so I invited her in to keep her dry and explained this was just an act of kindness, but I had no interest in her beliefs, but I was happy for her to believe what she wanted. Next Sunday morning my flatmate closest to the front door got woken up at 6am (we had been partying all night). When I git to the door she was there to give me plenty of time to get ready to go to her Kingdom Hall. She copped a tirade of abuse.
@@bluey1055 oh dear! It is disrespectful of her not to have listened to you. I wonder what she didn’t understand when you explained you weren’t interested? I do think a tirade of abuse however wasn’t necessary, she obviously got the message wrong or thought you would give in to her invitation. But then again it wasn’t me that got woken up early after a night of partying. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Can I ask though if you now have a faith you follow?
Oh, very gracefully considered and handled. 🙂
Thanks for watching and for your encouraging comment. God bless.
Great story.
Thanks Theresa, as always you encourage me by watching and commenting on my stories. This of course was a true story and it made an impression on me. How often we quickly get into an argument where we forget to remain gentle and respectful. God Bless.
Great video, I'm was raised as a JW in Australia, since I woke up to the Watchtower Society's lies at age 45 my friends and family have shunned me ever since.
Most of the elders that I know wouldn't have kicked you out without an argument.
I am now an open minded agnostic atheist. If Jesus or any other deity makes an appearance and proves who they are I'm willing to change my mind.
I spent 40 years earnestly searching for god only to be misled, now god who is described as a shepherd can search for me.
I'm not having a go at you, I admire the spirit that you are showing toward heavily indoctrinated people.
I try to be the same when I come across them too, but sadly they have labeled me an apostate so they won't listen.
I suppose now I am an apostate, but it is better than being a deluded JW heretic.
Thank you for watching and commenting. I am in Australia too. Presently in Canberra but my story took place in the late 70’s in Sydney. I. must admit I was expecting to at least have been heard, and then to have had my views argued against, so being shown the door before even being able to say anything was a bit of a surprise. I was told that they didn’t want blasphemy spoken in their house. I should have asked if we could go into their garden.
It must have been difficult, having been raised a JW, to have made the stand you did, when in doing so you would have known that you would be shunned by all your family and friends within your faith community. I am amazed that you had the independence of thought and courage to challenge what you were being taught. I would love to hear more of your story. What was it that first made you question them?
If you wanted, we could catch up on zoom. I could send you a zoom link. And we could agree on a time. But don’t feel obligated. Only if you want.
I am glad that you are an agnostic, especially an open minded one. I am confident that the true God is very interested in you, loves you more than you could know and wants you to be in his family. Maybe I in some small way will be a part of that process. Thanks so much for sharing your story with me. God bless and let me know if you want to hook up for a chat or just respond in writing here.
@@muttleysmith726 Which branch of SDA? The Trinitarians or the Unitarians?
I think for me that would be going from one cult (JW) to another.
When I left JW I associated with a local Presbyterian church and made some friends there, but as I dug deeper into the bible, realized I was going from following a group of men (the governing body of JW) to another unknown group of men who authored and compiled the bible.
It's an illusion that following just the bible Is not following men, because you are following the canon of the bible that the Catholic church compiled, the unknown authors of the bible books, and your own conclusions that you interpret from the bible.
Having said all this, I still value the Bible as a text that has preserved oral traditions of our ancient past, and reworked them for the relatively modern writers time and situation.
@ONE FOR AZAZEL this is not right I wrote an answer to your questions and it seems that u tube
Didn't like what I said and struck it off this is the second time this has been done...seems to me when you tell the truth as you see it , it is removed
Satan's seat??? Well I can't say what I want then what's the point of TRUTH.
I am glad you have found a group that follow the true Jesus. Nothing like a pot luck dinner 😁. Thank you for sharing your story. God bless.
@Mike's Story Number ? well stay in Canberra
Do us all a favour.
Hi im a born again child of God through Jesus. I accepred Jesus as mt Lord savior. I met some JW. and i told them i was born again. They asked me what is a born again child of God. They didnt like it and they didnt want me to pray. I told them after the meeting. They dont have to come anymore with love. The spirit of the Lord told me to let them go. They never contacted me again
Good on you for sharing the hope that is in you with gentleness and respect. God bless you. Hopefully your witness will combine with others to highlight to them their error.
Jw's are taught that "Taking in Knowledge" is the key to everlasting Life. They see no need to be born again. In fact, annually they gather to reject Christ's precious blood and flesh. Jesus also said that no one can enter the kingdom of God without being "born again, of water and the Spirit. Jn3:5 And John 6:53"Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life. Christians are born anew into the close family of Christ, (adelphos: From the same womb) and our birth mother is the free woman, Heavenly Jerusalem above. Gal 4:6 They missed that knowledge.
What does it mean to be born again? Just curious.
@@unmeritedfavour48 :Does that mean that born again Christians are no longer humans?
Jesus was addressing humans:
John 3:3 In response Jesus said to him: “Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born again, HE CANNOT see the Kingdom of God.”
Jesus explains what it is to be born again.
Verse 5 Jesus answered: “Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is BORN FROM WATER AND SPIRIT, HE CANNOT enter into the Kingdom of God.
This happens while these persons are humans. Not after.
Any JW can explain what Born Again means. There are still a few of these chosen ones among them. Compare Matthew 24:31.
99.99 % of JWs are not Born Again. The remaining 0/01% are.
The original commenter failed to explain what Born Again means.
The lesson: People should not use terms on themselves if they do not know what it means.
@@tongakhan230 clearly not born again they would all believe the same and those who say they are born again close their eyes to truths
I agree completely. As a then Christian, I usually used to invited them in for coffee. I was often well prepared to discuss various biblical issues, though avoiding Triniity, hell, or other controversial subjects they often were met with and prepared for. These moments could be crucial for them, since it may be the only time they were "permitted" to be confronted with viewpoints without the guardianship of other witnesses and official teaching. Coffee and cookies would often also put them in an off-guarding, relaxing position. I always, respectfully, let them give their message, then respectably asked if they could listen to my testimony (avoiding the controversial subjects and "words"). No "push button" subjects, the more likely my testimony would stick. Kindness has a knack of sticking as well. I ALWAYS tried to get their emails to be able to continue a "dialogue". Thanks for your similar approach. I am no longer a Christian, but will still approach them in a similar fashion.
Thanks for watching and for your great feedback. It was very encouraging for me. You say you are no longer a Christian. May I ask what your story is?
Thanks for your reply. After 30+ years as a Christian, I became a skeptic and ultimately, now an Atheist. My wife is still a devoted Christian, and I try to support her walk in faith as much as I can. We can attend meetings and fellowship with other Christians, but my journey as a believer has ended. But I have no need to lead others "astray", as long as their faith is edifying for them both personally and socially. I will however attempt to enlighten believers to other perspectives and thought processes that may be by blocked by dogma and/or at times, irrationality. Thanks for showing interest. Good luck in your service, far too many fine people are entrapped in the cult.
@@finnhoydal2028 thanks Finn for explaining. You are obviously someone who has a great regard for truth and yet are also tolerant of other views even supportive of your wife realising the importance to her of her beliefs. May I ask what was the main issue that initiated your scepticism? I am presently reading a book called “the case for faith” by lee strobel which tries to address the main objections to Christianity and was wondering if it addresses yours.
@@MikesStoryNumber I came to faith as an adult, from a secular background. I have always had fairly strong confidence in science and education. So many stories in the Bible contradicted IMHO science and educated thought. These thoughts of mine had however taken a back seat, to family, work and friends. To life, in other words. Once my children became adults, I had again time to rethink my convictions and belief systems. That, and "never ending" disappointing experiences, during my deep devotional periods with God. Ultimately, through chipping down piece by piece of my faith, I ended up with, but just a hollow faith remaining. I became a non-believer and an Atheist. My past as a Christian was mostly in a healthy, open-minded Evangelical Church, without a condemnational spirit, so I have no bitterness nor regrets. My journey out, has mostly been an intellectual process combined with some periodical disappointments with God, especially in times when gave him my "most". Don't know if this has given you any insight to the book you are reading.
@@finnhoydal2028 Not so much with the book, but I can empathise. I too am a very cognitive person, I have two Tertiary qualifications and have always thought that if God is real he can certainly address my enquiries, I imagine that it was therefore the disappointing periods with God in you devotionals that had the biggest impact would I be right?
Seeing this I regret that Jehovah's Witnesses never knocked on my door.
I would probably absolutely roast the Devil out of them and their false theology. In a calm and respectful way, of course.
Great video, sir, keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm so glad that you would engage them when they come to your door, they are literally a ministry on your doorstep however I understand they curtailed their door to door work during COVID. Not sure if they have begun it again - anyway I'm sure when they do they will get a warm welcome from you. God Bless. I also made a video about being visited by the Mormons - czcams.com/video/VxM8nGiWO18/video.html&feature=shares
@@MikesStoryNumber There are very few Jehovahs Witnesses in my country, and especially in the part where I live, and probably no Mormons at all. That is why I probably won't ever meet any.
@@baldwinthefourth4098 may I ask what country?
@@MikesStoryNumber I'm Tunisian
What can anyone enlighten a JW with?
Many of them once believed that God came in the form of a man, rode a donkey and got killed by his own creation.
That was when they were members of churches. Thankfully, the TRUTH set them free. John 8:32.
I’ve witnessed to the JWs many time, and find that questions are the best way to engage them. “I hear that you believe that Jesus used to be an angel, right?” “Yes, he used to be the archangel Michael!” “Oh, I’m not disputing that. Could you show me where it says that?” It doesn’t. And I make that the lynch pin.
Thanks Mike for your good advice. Yes questioning is a respectful and gentle way to approach them. God bless.
Great video and method for reaching them!! Thanks so much for sharing and God bless you and your ministry!!
Thanks for watching and your comment. They are lovely people, sincere, but I believe sincerely wrong.
Great video!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad you enjoyed it. I have more videos on my channel. CZcams.com/c/mikesstorynumber Your encouragement was appreciated. God bless.
Nice video. I have read a few of their Watchtower pamphlets that they have put through my door. When I learned through reading their pamphlets that they do not believe in an afterlife, I became convinced that they are not real Christians. In fact, that thought alone makes them more in line with Atheism than Christianity. I did have one encounter with a Witness at my door. When I opened the door, this man said, "Good afternoon, may I talk to you about Jesus Christ?" I said, certainly, at which point I held up my rosary (I'm Catholic) right in front of his face that I had wrapped around my hand. Like a scene from a Dracula movie, he stared at the rosary for a moment as his mouth dropped and his eyes began to register intense fear. He slowly backed away and, in a fearful voice, said, "Oh, never mind. Have a good day, sir." He turned around and left my front porch in quite a hurry. True story! 😊
Thanks for watching and making a comment. Never heard a story like your one. Thanks for sharing.
Good message!
Thanks heaps for your encouragement. God bless you
I am a ex jw and I love Jesus Christ so very much
Hi thanks for watching and commenting on my story! I would love to hear your story.
I 100% agree sir with your very funny and thoughtful video. Jehovah witnesses have come to my home in the past, and I have attempted to invite a conversation, but after being asked my beliefs the elder would always instruct the younger individual to end our encounter.
Thanks for watching and for your encouraging remarks. Keep inviting those conversations, I believe people are rarely won by a gotcha good argument but will be impressed by people demonstrating Gods love by showing respect and gentleness. God bless
That is because JWs are sent to the homes to fulfill Matthew 24:14. If any householder knew the truth, he won't be sitting at home waiting to interfer with JWs' God given mission. Matthew 10:7.
Treat JWs with kindness and respect. Treat everyone with kindness and respect.
Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. And yes that is exactly the message I wanted to get across, to treat all people with gentleness and respect, just as the bible tells us to. So often we get insulted when people disagree with us, we often take it as a personal slight if someone does not agree that how we see things is correct, but if we are open and respectful we could learn something and or teach something that will be of benefit. I personally don't agree with the JW's but closing the door on each other, or throwing each other out of our houses is not the way of Jesus. God Bless you.
yes god sees all good deeds!!!
true some people dont diverse respect they act like Goats!!
When JWs approach me I ask them if their god is a violent god. Most hesitate before answering. If he tells me NO, then I ask them why the judgments of this god are always accompanied by great violence? If they tell me YES then why does this god say he hates violence?
Thanks Phil for watching and commenting. An interesting approach. God bless
Great point!
good excuse to party!! lap it up while you can!!
@@mrm8850 Still better than waiting for the Special Forces assault on Warwick having swallowed the absurd elastic generation, LOL. Good digestion.
@@laymanphil8513 all the best with that one!!
I don't know why everyone gets so upset at JWs at your door. People come all the time wanting to offer painting service, construction service etc, do you yell at them & be rude? No, you just say I'm not interested & close the door. What are you all afraid of? Just don't answer the door if it upsets you so much!
Very good advice. My video however was targeted to those who feel they should respond in some way and is focused on what I believe is an appropriate Christian response. I appreciate your watching and commenting.
Thank you. Former JW.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I would love to hear your story. In my youth especially I spent a lot of time trying to reach jw’s but my efforts invariably ended with them getting angry and me getting frustrated. The problem with debates is they just seem to polarise more. But I always endeavoured to be hospitable and respectful. So knowing your story would be interesting. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. God bless.
Apostate or x Jehovah witness
I talked with a couple once a long time ago. It was actually depressing that they'd go to their translation and keep calling my translation bad. Even John 1:1 was different for them ("In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was *A* god"). There was no talking them away from it.
Just recently I was visited by a pair of women and I was VERY tempted to say "No, I don't have time to hear your lies about my savior" and closing the door on them. Instead, I'm going to prepare my OWN pamphlet of scripture refuting the things they believe and educating them on the history of Joseph Smith (I live close to a kingdom hall).
Thank you for giving Jehovah's Witnesses a witness for us🆗🙏 You show exactly how they acted in Noah's day and ALL laughed and joked about Noah preaching and building the Ark. So His Family was saved ‼️ But everyone else 💦🤔died. So we dedicated our lives to give ALL the opportunity to make a choice to listen to Jehovah Witnesses or suffer the consequences it's up to you 💕
Hi Rita! Thanks for watching and commenting. My intention in making the video was not to poke fun at JW’s. In fact the people I poke fun at are my friends in their response to them at the door, and my inability to help my Dad with the car. The point of the video I hoped was plain that God through his word encourages, when we deal with people who think differently to us, is to treat them with gentleness and respect. It is true that I don’t agree with what the JW’s teach. This has come about through long discussions with them. I see them as the false disciples in Matt 7 21-23. I desperately want them to know the joy of following the true Jesus of the Bible. But this will never happen if we continue to throw each other out of houses. The story is true. The events really happened and hopefully the story shames us all to treat each other better. Thanks for expressing your view. God bless.
@@MikesStoryNumber I certainly appreciate that!!!!
Just curious, where does the Bible say anyone laughed at Noah?
JWs "truth"? "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
"Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added
Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture.
"suggested dates, wrong expectations" in God's name? yes, these ARE false prophecies from the Jehovah Witness Organization.
God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope, just a false religion!
*JWs claim to follow the Bible and yet* no Bible I know of says anything about 1799,1844,1874,1879, 1914,1915, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's,1975, 2000,ect. JWs call their literature "food FROM God", repeat "food FROM God" yet it has these false dates.
*"Jehovah's Witnesses, ... have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* - Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
Honestly, I wish way more Christians were like you.
Thanks for your lovely comment. Unfortunately we Christians often fail to display the fruit of the spirit of love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and self control. Even though God through his Holy Spirit has given us all the resources to do it. Our own pride and need to be seen as right gets in the way and I certainly don’t want you to get the impression I am always guiltless. I’m not perfect but I am forgiven and hope to demonstrate the love and forgiveness that has been shown to me to others. Thanks for watching and commenting. God bless.
god help you!!
Without RESPECT we REJECT !!! Their inability to listen to other opinions or beliefs makes them culty and robotic like BORG from ST....
I had to reboot my Trekie brain to pick up the Borg reference 😂😂. You are right though it is important to be prepared to question and analyse our beliefs. If God is real he’ll be big enough to pass our scrutiny. The reticence of the cults to do this is a worry but they often face being cut off from their families and communities if they are seen to be questioning their leaders. Thank you for watching and commenting. God bless
Considering the fact that JWs are Jesus' only disciples in these last day, how can they be wrong about Jesus who leads them?
Who else is fulfilling Matthew 24:14.?
While others are fulfilling Matthew 24:9 against JWs.
Hi! Thanks for watching and commenting on my video.JW's will say that they are disciples of Jesus. So will Mormons, and so will I, the real question is "Which Jesus is the true Jesus?" You say the JW's are because they are fulfilling Matthew 24:14. That's a little arrogant isn't it? Are you not aware of the many missionary endeavours of the mainstream Christian Churches, which eclipse what the JW's are doing by far. Have you not heard of our long history of taking the gospel to the world? Look up William Carey, Hudson Taylor, Eric Liddell, David Wilkerson, billy Graham, check out the missionary websites of the mainstream churches, see what the Gideons are doing, the Navigators, Campus Crusade for Christ, Scripture Union and that is just for starters. Check out my CZcams channel where I talk about the many ways and situations that I have shared my faith.......Yet Matthew 7 has Jesus saying that despite the many marvellous things people have done in his name he will say to some of them that he never knew them. In fact he says that we will know them by their fruits! And in Galations we read that the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness and self control? So take a challenge for me, I am assuming you are a JW, ask your church leaders how you got the new world translation of the bible? Ask them why all the other translations identify all the many translators that were involved in the translation but the new world, your primary text is silent. Who were these people and did they have the necessary qualifications to translate the original languages into English? Why does it differ from all the other translations? Did you know that it is recored history that the vice president of the watchtower in 1954 Fred Franz claimed he was familiar with Hebrew Greek and Latin, but when given the Hebrew text of 2 Genesis 4 to translate, he had to agree that he did not know how to? I believe that God has given you the skills to discover the truth to find the real Jesus and follow him. It may be costly however, you no doubt have friends in the JW's and a certain level of authority, you may have to give that up in order to follow the real Jesus.
@@MikesStoryNumber : Jesus spoke about his disciples. Always using the pronoun YOU.
John 13:35 By this all will know that YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES-if YOU have love among yourselves.”
John 15:19...... Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, for this reason the world hates YOU.
Which ONE UNITED WORLDWIDE group of Jesus' DISCIPLES fits the bill?
What people may claim is another story.
(Matthew 7:21) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but ONLY THE ONE DOING THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in the heavens will.
Which ONE GROUP of Jesus' True Disciples are DOING GOD'S WILL in these last days?
Matthew 24:14 gives a clue.
Of course, people who make believe that Jesus was God, logically cannot qualify as Jesus' DISCIPLES. God can never have Disciples.
This is just perfect.
Thanks for watching and commenting and for your encouragement. God bless
@@MikesStoryNumber your welcome. Thanks for the encouragement!
If Jehovah is the SOURCE of life...how can there be a trinity? Pslm 36v9
thanks for watching and commenting on my video. As you have brought up the trinity spend another 6 minutes hearing what I say about the trinity - here is the link czcams.com/video/HcWBFgWO8Vk/video.html
God will not fit into a box limited by your understanding, trying to understand him with those limitations would be like an ant trying to comprehend microwave ovens and international flights. Tell me what you think of my video on the trinity - I look forward to your response.
John 5:26 KJV John 6:57 KJV
@@unmeritedfavour48 LIVENG for as the Father has life in himself so he has given it to the Son to have life in himself. Notice the Son did not have it to begin with. As the Father is the SOURCE of all life, He kindly decided to give it to His Son. Therefore not equal friend. John6v57 LIVENG As the living Father sent me AND I LIVE BECAUSE OF THE FATHER , he also who feasts on me will live too because of me. Again, showing Jesus would never have existed unless His Father produced Him, bringing Him into existence. Thanks for that verse, it sure does put it plainly. The bible speaks for itself, you just have to connect the dots. blessings
actually they once made me crazy, I shouted at them and I was angry to them till I watched your video. thanks for the nice video. I wish I could watch this earlier then my anger would go down.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I’m glad my video helped. Maybe next time tell them you would like to share with them the video and if they agree and watch it ask if they would listen to you talk about your faith. Thanks again for being so encouraging Tural. God bless
@@MikesStoryNumber I would love to, thanks
were you Crazy already???
satans Angry welcome to his Club!! its called goat like People they also have Horns!!
Thomas Jefferson: “When we shall have done away with the incomprehensible jargon of the Trinitarian arithmetic, that three are one, and one is three; when we shall have knocked down the artificial scaffolding, reared to mask from view the simple structure of Jesus; when, in short, we shall have unlearned everything which has been taught since his day, and got back to the pure and simple doctrines he inculcated, we shall then be truly and worthily his disciplines.” (Norman Cousins, In God we trust, p. 156)
I have never heard of that quote before. Thank you for telling me about it. I suppose as I’m Australian I haven’t studied Thomas Jefferson much. I’ve since found out that he also didn’t believe in the miracles of Jesus , seeing Jesus as just a moral teacher and referred to himself as an epicurean. Are you a follower of Thomas Jefferson? I understand some Americans revere their presidents very highly. I’m amazed at how some hold Trump in such high regard. But politics and past presidents aside I accept the doctrine of the trinity and this is how I explain it ….. see my video; How I explained the Trinity, one God in three persons, to my kids. Story 52
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@@MikesStoryNumber --- More than a president, he's one on this country's founders.
I can't say for a fact that leprechauns don't exist. I just haven't been presented with any convincing evidence that they do. When I am, I'll consider the possibility. Until then, I put them in the same category I do all gods.
I don't.
Have to be unkind Or say anything bad Because I don't open my door for anybody Unless I know family your friend is coming over
Thanks for your comment. Yes that sorts the issue nicely. For myself and many Christian’s however they represent an opportunity to give an account on the hope we have in the real Jesus. God bless
“Leave or I’ll get the pope on ya”😂
I spent quite a lot of time with the JW's in my youth trying to encourage them to look with a critical eye at their teaching - can't say I did very well, but I obtained an appreciation for their commitment.
I walked to the door naked and said "What's up?" They turned and ran. Never had problems again. Never did that before or after. The Jehovah Witnesses wouldn't stop coming over.
Yes I reckon that would do it, if I pulled that stunt, definitely not a pretty site at my age, but I heard of an old lady that did it and they just acted as if all was ok, but as they walked a way one said to the other, "what was she wearing?" And the other replied "I don't know but it sure needed ironing!" Thanks for watching and commenting.God Bless.
It may not be their problem if anyone won't accept them or listen to them. Like what Noah's time while making the arc he preached to the people but no one listens to him except his own family. Even if no one believed him, he continued the work that God made him do and he did not stop even if no one listened to him, even if they insulted him, mocked him and rejected him.
2 Timothy 4: 1, 2
"I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching."
But, what God said will definitely happen in due time. It has been proven that because of the behavior of the people, they did not survive the arrival of the great flood that destroyed them all.
The same thing happened in Sodom and Gomorrah, no one listened to Lot until the time came to destroy them.
Jesus clearly told his disples:
Matthew 10: 14, 15
"And if ANYONE WILL NOT RECEIVE YOU OR LISTEN TO YOUR WORDS, shake off the dust from your feet when you LEAVE THAT HOUSE OR TOWN. Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town."
If the people do not listen, it will not prevent the coming of judgment day.
That is part of the fulfillment of what was prophesied in the last days.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
"For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
For many people, they prevent the preachers from talking to them and they enjoy insulting or scolding the preachers but what they don't know is that what they are doing is the fulfillment of what the Bible foretold.
Matthew 24: 14
"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
It is not prophesied in the Bible that in the last days people will turn to God and listen to God's word. But, what was prophesied is the opposite because people will be more distant and will not listen to the true teachings and words of God.
Thankyou for watching and commenting twice! You are correct acceptance is not a proof of truth. Neither is preaching and being rejected a sign of truth. How will we know the people who follow the true Jesus? Well one way will be by their fruits; love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and self control. They will have the Holy Spirit and they will follow the word of God.
So let’s review the bidding here. People I don’t know, people who are complete strangers to me, people I might not even like if if I did get to know them, walk onto my property, uninvited and unannounced, at a time convenient to them though not necessarily convenient to me, to knock on my door, interrupting what I’m doing, so they can tell me that I’m not good enough. And I’m the bad guy if I’m not nice? We will have to agree to disagree. It should be noted that of the three parties in this virtual encounter --- you, me, and the JW at the door --- I’m the only one not selling anything.
Good point Peter but let’s change the Paradigm to get a different perspective. Say a bush fire 🔥 is descending on your property. Complete strangers to you, part of the local emergency service, people if you did get to know you may not even like, walk onto your property, uninvited and unannounced, at a time inconvenient to you, to interrupt what your doing, to tell you that you are the disconnected guy that is not aware, that you need to evacuate your home, you may see them in a different light, you may appreciate that their motivation of selling you safety is sacrificial? The reason I raise this scenario is even if you disagree with the emergency services having analysed the bush fire risk for your self and completely believe you have nothing to worry about you would, I hope treat them with respect knowing that within their narrative they are not trying to simply sell you something. Now I don’t agree with the JWs, in a sense they do benefit as their visiting you is a requirement for their personal salvation, but I think we can disagree with them and say we have analysed and come to a different conclusion. I really appreciate that you watched my video and made such an insightful comment. God bless.
so what are you doing lol
Two encounters at two different houses - they never returned:
House one (my first own flat), an old man was the witness, very polite but too self assured for my teenage rebell taste:
Witness: Greetings, I suspect you are an intelligent young man and as such you are probably interested in how everything came into existence? Do you have some time for a talk?
Me: Of course, thats fascinating to me.
Witness: Great, its allways important to have an open mind in order to understand the world and learn something. Here I have a book that explains it all, how God made our world and the whole universe.
Me: Well, thats only the second part of the story. The really interesting part is: What was before God and who made him? Have you ever thought about that? Now, I have several theories about it, let me lay them out to you in detail one by one, as you said you had brought some time...
House two (my parents'), here the witnesses came as a team of old ladies and my parents didnt want to see them, so they sent me to the door to repell them quickly:
Witnesses: Greetings, are the masters of this house at home? Wed like to talk to them.
Me: No, you have to deal with me, Im afraid.
Witnesses: Well, wed like to bring you a message from our God, who can become your saviour...
Me: Well, you see, I dont believe in that kinda sh*t.
Witnesses: Eh, but this is a religious house, isnt it?
Me: Most certainly not!
It looks like they respected your ideology
Very true we should all treat people like the way like to be treated;! If a church group or members and want to discuss the Bible and want your views of the word of GOD! Get your Bible out and after you listen to their thoughts on that subject! They happen to have a different slant on what you believe! Then open up your Bible. And say let's see what GOD words say about that subject that they talking about! If they agree to listen like you did for them! That's great. Give them the truth of what GOD thinks but be gentle and do it with love and caring the way Jesus Christ would do if he was teaching a new. CHRISTON. Or a lamb Like Jesus told Peter love me Peter? Peter answer you know that I do Jesus. Reply feed my sheep! Second time. PETER love me? Peter answer is yes LORD I do! Jesus replied. Feed my lambs !; Jesus asked for the third time Peter do you truly love me Peter answer yes LORD. Jesus replied feed my.sheep! And what do you feed the sheep's and the lambs ? The whole word of GOD ! To the sheep's that know the word but got sidetracked a bit! To the lambs the ones who are new to the church and God's teaching and Jesus Christ salvation message! To the. Older SHEEP who knows the truth about the word of GOD and Jesus Christ give them a boost to make them more strong in the word of God! If the people who are visiting you and want to hear the word. Praise God for them don't take any credit for that because it's GOD words that are going into their heart and mind not yours ! If they don't want to do that!? That's fine also because maybe GOD has placed a screen to block the word sy the present time for their own protection. And that is GOD and Jesus Christ and their business only! But on the other hand If they curse you and call you names; then send them away have nothing more with them. ! Say nothing more! Later ask God If it's in his will and plan to forgive them and ask FATHER to open their ears and mind to your word !
Thanks Russell for watching and commenting. Sometimes God calls us to persevere with people. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. God bless and thanks again for your considered comment.
Actually, JW see a difference between "divinity" and " deity". They will say that Jesus and the angels are "divine beings". See their brochure on the Trinity. I'm not sure if it's still available on their website or not.
Yes your right, terminology can be confusing, as we use it differently. Thanks for pointing it out. Another way JWs try to deny that Jesus was God in the flesh. Thanks for watching and commenting. Having been a JW your insights are invaluable.
Rachel Exjw No, the original brochure is NOT on the website. IF you search the title, it will come up, but it is a digital, short version, and not anywhere close to the original document. They had to remove it from publication due to the outright lies they told on pg. 7 about the "Early Church Fathers". Every quote they used was partial, and used elipses and parenthesis to try and persuade the reader that the Early Church Fathers didn't believe Jesus was God.
After FINDING all the references they mentioned in part, the whole writing absolutely conveyed their belief that Jesus WAS God in the flesh. It was quite the "piece of work".
Bring a big cross to the door. It will even keep Dracula away!
That would have been a good one to have included in my video 😂😂 thanks for watching and commenting.
Mike, here's a good talking point to bring up with the JW's when they come to your door. Ask them how do they explain the original belief of the "generation of 1914" & now the new belief of the "overlapping generations." If they are supposedly God's organization, then why would God have them preach about a doctrine that they would later change? They will say that the "light gets brighter & brighter," but if they changed the 1914 doctrine, then what else have they gotten wrong? They fail to see their own logical fallacy. They have painted themselves into the proverbial corner yet again & it will take place around 2040 when there will be no one left alive of the "overlapping generation." Smh.
Thanks David good point. Unfortunately sociologists tell us that our beliefs are usually determined by the people we associate with. As the JWs isolate their followers. Encouraging them to only read their material it is frustratingly amazing what they will accept as gospel. Logic only works if someone is prepared to but their brain into gear and question . But with people like yourself who are prepared to show them the truth and with the power of the Holy Spirit who guides us to truth talking points like yours may truly help the light for them to get “brighter and brighter” thanks for watching and commenting. You obviously have had experience talking to them and a heart for their salvation. God bless.
so how many mistake have you made in your lifetime lets talk about that??
@@mrm8850, I see from your other comments that you are just trolling. Goodbye.
@@davidreda1211 you too Apostate!!
@@mrm8850 (Awake November 22, 1984) “If we are unable to defend our religious views, we find ourselves lashing out against those who challenge our beliefs, not with logical arguments, but with slurs and innuendos. This smacks of prejudice and of a closed mind.”
*"It is important to examine one's religion; there is nothing to fear from such an examination".* - The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life. page 13 (JW literature)
*"Examine the evidence. Reasonable persons want to examine both sides of a matter. That is how one arrives at the truth.* - Awake 10/22/1973 page 6
Seriously, you need to catch up with the times. JW's don't preach from door to door anymore. Hadn't done so in over 2 years!
Your right John. Covid has meant they have moved to phone calls and letter writing, however I understand as covid restrictions ease they will be encouraged to go door to door again. My channel consists of the stories I told my children of my growing up. So this story is a true event that occurred 44 years ago. What I learned however and the scripture I refer to is timeless in its application to treat others with gentleness and respect. Thanks for watching and commenting and for the fact check. God bless.
@@MikesStoryNumber I guess you didn't get the memo. No more going door to door.
Like I said, you should worry more about who's going to show up next at your door
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They're going back to preaching now, although not door to door yet. But they'll be doing other forms like standing with their public carts.
@@user-jl2kk8ps9i And soon, they won't be preaching about any "good news". Once the great Reset begins (or, as Jesus calls it, the great Tribulation), the message that Jehovah's Witnesses will be sharing is that of the coming judgement on the earth, where the world get's to hear it from them.
Paul Hogan gone Wrong!!
I just tell them I am Episcopalian (USA). They shut up and leave.
Thanks for watching and commenting sorry for my late response. Maybe next time they call, I understand they stopped visiting due to covid, you can show them my video 😂😂😀
@@MikesStoryNumber I haven't seen them in a while but your video was great. I will have it if they knock again.
Nice!
Thanks for commenting and watching.God Bless
HOW TO RESPOND TO A JEHOVAH WITNESS AT YOUR DOOR? That's simple, IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED JUST SAY SO. They will simply apply what the Bible says at Matthew 10 v 11 to 15 and move on to the. next door.
What makes you think that you are a CHRISTIAN? DO you know that a Christian is a follower of Christ and he who claim to know him yet they do not obey his commands is a liar and the truth is not in him? ( 1 John 2 v 4 ).
Jesus gave his followers a command at Acts 1 v 8 just before he ascended to Heaven, " YOU MUST BE WITNESSES OF ME IN JERUSALEM AND IN ALL JUDEA AND SAMARIA AND TO THE UTMOST PART OF THE EARTH, JEHOVAH WITNESSES OBEY IT, DO YOU? What about Acts 5 v 42 and Acts 20 v 20??
The Jesus the JEHOVAH witnesses know is the one mentioned at 1 John 4 v 15 and 1 John 5 v 5 HE IS THE SON OF GOD.
THROUGHOUT THE NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS GAVE ALL PRAISES AND GLORY TO HIS FATHER. At John 14 v 28, Jesus said, "THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I." AT John 5 v 30 Jesus said, " I CAN OF MYSELF DO NOTHING. " I SEEK, NOT MY OWN WILL, BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHO SENT ME. When Jesus saw the money changers in the temple, he said," YOU ARE MAKING MY FATHER'S HOUSE INTO A DEN OF THIEVES, " HE did not say you are making my house into a den of thieves?
At Mark 10 v 18 Jesus Christ said, " WHY DO YOU CALL ME ( me) GOOD, NOBODY GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD. Does that sound to you like Jesus is God?
John 5 v 26 says, THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF, SO HE HAS ( GRANTED) THE SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF, SO CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE SON WAS ( GRANTED) TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF? IF SOMEONE GRANT YOU SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT HAVE IT BEFORE IT WAS GRANTED TO YOU?
IF JESUS IS GOD, PLEASE EXPLAIN 1CORINTHIANS 15 v 24 to 28 to the people you are misleading.?
Hi Archie! thanks for commenting on my video. May I ask if you watched the whole video? The main aim of the video was not to put forward a complete refutation of your beliefs, that of course would take a much longer video, but instead to highlight the bibles guideline to always treat people with gentleness and respect when discussing matters concerning our faith. I think your advice ,I would whole heartedly agree with, if you're not interested just politely say so. However I believe fellow Christians, again in light of the scripture I quoted on two occasions, are instructed to take up the opportunity to discuss the hope that is in them to anyone who wants to discuss. My personal practice is always to be polite and try, as I told in the video, to take up the opportunity to discuss my faith. The story I tell is a true story.
Thank you for all the verses that you quoted.I have no problem with the verses that you quote because they conform to my understanding of the doctrine of the trinity, a doctrine that I know that you don't accept. Can I suggest you first listen to my video on the trinity, Again it is only short, it is how I explained the trinity to my kids. I have found it important to understand what the person that I am speaking about means before I try and refute it and I would respectfully encourage you to do the same.
I have found that when I speak to people of different faiths, it important to understand what they mean by the terms that they use. For instance Muslims speak of God but their idea of God and our idea of God would be very different, similarly if we spoke to a Mormon they speak of Jesus , yet what they mean by Jesus and what we mean by Jesus is again vastly different. Let me know when you have watched the video on the trinity.
My attitude to people within the JW movement is that they are sincere people, people who God loves, who are unfortunately following the wrong Jesus. I dod not think that you are a bad person. I believe that you are a seeker of the truth just as I am, but of course we can't both be right, so lets work together on working out where we think the other has gone wrong.
Let us know when you have watched the trinity video. God Bless.
It may not be their problem if anyone won't accept them or listen to them. Like what Noah's time while making the arc he preached to the people but no one listens to him except his own family. But, it proved that it could not prevent the arrival of a great flood that ended them all.
The same thing happened in Sodom and Gomorrah, no one listened to Lot until the time came to destroy them.
Jesus clearly told his disples:
Matthew 10: 14, 15
"And if ANYONE WILL NOT RECEIVE YOU OR LISTEN TO YOUR WORDS, shake off the dust from your feet when you LEAVE THAT HOUSE OR TOWN. Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town."
If the people do not listen, it will not prevent the coming of judgment day.
That is part of the fulfillment of what was prophesied in the last days.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
"For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
For many people, they prevent the preachers from talking to them and they enjoy insulting or scolding the preachers but what they don't know is that what they are doing is the fulfillment of what the Bible foretold.
See my response to your identical comment above. God bless.
@@MikesStoryNumber what do you mean IDENTICAL Comments? If I am a JW, I will not waste time to comment here.
John 10:3
"The doorkeeper opens to this one, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out."
@@eduardoiiigo3932 you’re comment was reproduced twice in my feed. I’m sure it was a mistake or a clitch if you weren’t aware of it…… as to your quote his sheep will recognise his voice I would say that the sheep, in the context of the story need to discern the good shepherds voice from that of the thief and robber. The question still remains are you following the true Jesus, the good shepherd or an imposter. Many on that day will say but didn’t we do great things in your name but he’ll say I never knew you. I’m always suspicious of those who claim to understand God completely. I’ve been married to my wife for over 40 years and there are still some things that I can’t work out 😂😂 Similarly with God. If you god fits neatly into a box, think again. The real Jesus will stretch your mind. God bless
@@MikesStoryNumber The true revealer of the truth must always be based on what the Bible teaches, the Word of God. (Acts 17: 2, 3) The man who speaks in his own thingking and reasoning seeks his own honor.(John 7:18) Even Jesus teaches and says what God said and taught. (John 7:16; 12: 49)
An irrational person trusts its own thinking and reasoning. Because many boast according to the flesh but not according to the truth that comes from God. They are the teachers who flatter their listeners with words that are not based on true teachings from the Bible.
2 Timothy 4: 3-4
"teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."
How can it be said that the person is guided by the holy spirit of God if his teachings are only abundant from himself and his own understanding that is not based on the scriptures? Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is because "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." - 2 Timothy 3: 16, 17
@@eduardoiiigo3932 agree totally with your verses.
The name sounds funny to me. As l understand WITNESS means to see something with your own eyes ,that simple. They actually don't see anything at all.
Their name is because in their faith using the real name of God is important. Interestingly we not really sure how to pronouns it, but I believe they are trying to be faithful to God, unfortunately sincerity does mean you can’t be sincerely wrong.
Jehovah's witnesses know their bible, and try to have you believe in it they practice every week how to convince you...
Well they certainly know their reference texts don't they, but I have never been able to convince one to read the bible without their watchtower beside them telling them how to interpret their texts, a challenge I often give to read it for 3 months by itself. And of course it is their bible, a unique translation that has tried to remove or re translate the text in a way that agrees with their doctrine. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. As you can see it is not a refutation on the whole of their doctrine just a call to act respectfully and gently with all people who have different views to our own.
JWs "truth"? "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
"Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added
Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture.
"suggested dates, wrong expectations" in God's name? yes, these ARE false prophecies from the Jehovah Witness Organization.
God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope, just a false religion!
@@MikesStoryNumber I do agree with you, and I respect people with different
opinion than mine....
Just saying... 48 years a J W. I am very happy, extremly happy. I love my God so much
J w taught me how to read the Bible, ive researched world history, archeology reports and friends id leave if ever i found a flaw. Could never find even one ! Btw , i also researched ancienr encyclopedias ans dead sea scrolls.
And my catholuc friends out there :
Google the catholic encyclopefia for " what us the name of the true God ? " The same name Jehovah
That J W respect. And if you dont feel you can trust Google then youllbgind it in the 1910 volume 8 , page 329 Catholuc Encyclopedia.
I wish you peace, live and joy
Just say youre not interested and wish them a nice day
But I am interested, I'm interested in them because Jesus is, they are sincerely seeking the truth but are looking in the wrong place.I'm sure God would want me to show his love for them by treating them respectfully and kindly.
*[Part 2]*
*Is Jesus God Almighty?* 🤔
*I Trust Jesus Words... Let Jesus Speak for Himself:*
• John 4:22 - Jesus said: You worship what you do not know;
*WE WORSHIP* what we know! *(Here, Jesus clearly worships someone higher than himself)*
• Luke 18:19 - Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? *Nobody is good except one, God*. (Luke 18:19)
• John 5:19 - Jesus says: *"The Son can't do anything on his own, only what he sees the Father doing."*
• John 10:33 - After the Jewish Leaders attempted to stone Jesus, accusing him of calling himself *"God" (KJV)* ... Why did Jesus correct them by saying, *"I said I am God's Son?"* (verse 36)
• John 14:28 - Jesus says: *The Father is greater than I.*
• John 17:3 - Why does Jesus call the Father *THE ONLY TRUE GOD*?
"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, *"THE ONLY TRUE GOD,"* [and] the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."
(Clear Distinction Here)
• John 20:17 - ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to *MY GOD and YOUR GOD.’”*
• John 20:28 - After Thomas said, "My God & My Lord," ...Why does "vs 31" say "But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, *THE SON OF GOD?"*
• Hebrews 10:7 - It is written about me, I have come to do your will *O God*!
• Rev. 3:12 - After Jesus Ascends Back To Heaven, (in Spirit realm) he still calls his Father *"GOD & MY GOD"* (several times):
- John 20:17 - on earth
- Matt. 27:46 - on earth
- Mark 15:34 - on earth
- Rev. 1:6 - in heaven
- Rev. 3:2 - in heaven
- Rev. 3:12 - in heaven [4 times]
I made a video regarding this- due to the short format it only goes for 1 minute here is the link: czcams.com/users/shortsF20qJzRGg3I?feature=share
@@MikesStoryNumber
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. John 5:18
JESUS never claimed to be the I AM. Saying before Abraham, I AM (before Abraham came into existence, HE JESUS was in existence, I AM). JESUS says He goes to His Father and His GOD.
I encourage you to make sure of the accuracy of what you are teaching before you try to influence others
@@jshebahshebeth7855 the people who were there at the time understood him perfectly. Can I challenge you to put aside your new world translation and your watchtower for a month and just read the Bible by itself without the watchtower filter. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into the truth.
@@MikesStoryNumber I quoted the verse and you claim that I have a filter. You assume to know what people thousands of years ago understood and you don't have any filter? It's just like the scriptures say you call good, bad and bad good.
Watchtower? Once again an assumption. If you cant make a scriptural defense, stand down.
JESUS never claimed to be His Father.
@@jshebahshebeth7855 I am happy with your quotation of the verse, it’s your interpretation of it I disagree with. I recognise it as Jesus claiming Gods title but you deny it and accept the watchtowers explanation that the people hearing him were confused. Russell the founder of the JWs warned his followers not to read the Bible without reading his studies in the scriptures alongside them as many of his followers were falling away as a result. In the same way you will find your elders insist that you read your new world translation with the jw interpretations alongside. All I’m asking is you read the Bible by itself and ask the Holy Spirit to lead you into truth….. I haven’t found. Jw prepared to do it. Will you be the first?
Don’t answer. I’m not interested nor being recruited and refuse to waste my time with them.
If I was interested I would seek out
their organization, however that would never happen.
Yes, a good response. My video is targeted at christians however who have a different belief than the JW's and suggests that any response should be done as the bible instructs with respect and gentleness. thanks for watching and commenting on my video.
We should receive them, if free, and then talk about Bible. Offering a cup of coffee/tea would be nice. Forgot about the Bible talk but hand a touch gentleness and respect. That does not mean we should hear that they are right or wrong but to have a discussion and talk. And, I personally believe, they are better than many so-called Christian sects...like Baptist, Catholics, Protestants...etc. They are right in many ways than mainstream Christians.
thank you for watching and commenting and agreeing with acting respectfully towards them. Like most christian cults they have some truth but unfortunately are wrong on the very important point of who Jesus is. YOu see if you follow the wrong Jesus you have been hoodwinked. It is very hard to tell someone that they have been hoodwinked - without first gaining their trust and to do that you must always treat them with gentleness and respect, never denigrate them. Thank you again for your comment. God Bless.
@Juvi Viju JWs are a very destructive cult, actually. They destroy people’s lives, they hold the flock in submission by imposing arbitrary rules and threatening their members with shunning. That’s not Christian, that’s not loving (nor are their beliefs Christian or loving).
Trinity concept is not Biblical. Now how about that? And 90% of mainstream Christians follow that 3 in 1 and 1 in 3...which is not what Bible teaches. Now 90% are cult?
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They are false teachers, Bible defined false prophets and a terrible cult. JWs "truth"? "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
"Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added
Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture.
"suggested dates, wrong expectations" in God's name? yes, these ARE false prophecies from the Jehovah Witness Organization.
God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope, just a false religion!
Or you could invite them to pray to the virgin Mary together, since you were planning on doing that...
Interesting comment but no such plans what made you post that??????
@@MikesStoryNumber to be fair your approach is probably kinder...this would show that you already have a strong belief and that is a dangerous one (for JW the idea of praying Mary is bad), which will make them quickly desist... some relatives of mine have pictures/statues of Mary close to their door and keeping JW at bay is one of the reasons...
@@arzigogolato1 I see interesting approach, have not heard of that but thanks for letting me know. I have never prayed to the Virgin Mary though I imagine she was an amazing woman. As God has given us access to speak to him directly that’s been my preference. I am so glad you gave me that insight however and took the time to watch and comment on the video. God bless.
*[Part 1]*
*Public Evangelism: Early Christians*
▪︎ *[No Attacks, Just Facts!]*
▪︎ *Why Did The Video Start w/ The JW Knocking On The Baptists Door?* 🤔
*Early Christians took Public Evanglism Very Seriously*
Respectfully, may I ask a question?
▪︎*Why poke fun @ JWs for doing your job if U profess Christianity?*
1) Matt. 28:19, 20 - Jesus' last *COMMAND* to make disciples before he returned to heaven!
2) Luke 10:1 - Jesus trains his disciples & sends them out in twos
3) Acts 5:42 - Early Christians obeyed by preaching & teaching daily from door-to-door.
4) Acts 20:20 - Apostle Paul obeyed by preaching from house-to-house.
*As A Theology Major, This Is The Jesus I Know*
*[No Attacks, Just Facts]*
I sincerely mean U no disrespect regarding anyone's form of worship...
May I ask U,
• Does your Church have Volunteer *UNPAID Ministers & Members* who participate in a *House-to-House Ministry* just like the early Christians?
• Matt. 10:8 - *Jesus said: You received free, give free.*
• *Like Jesus, does your Pastor go to people's homes as a free volunteer to discuss God's Kingdom? Do U do so?*
*They were not ashamed of the Gospel (Good News)*
~ Romans 1:16 & 2 Tim. 1:8
~~~~~~
*[Scriptural References]*
• Enter a house 🏠 to preach the Kingdom (Matt. 10:11-13 / Luke 10:1 & 5)
• Acts 17:17 - Paul Preached Publicly [Evangelized] in the Market Place
• Acts 8:27 - Phillip gave Public Witness to an Ethiopian Official
• Acts 21:8 - Phillip was known as an Evanglizer
~~~~~
*Apostles Did Not Fleece The Flock*
• Acts 18:3 - and, because he [Paul] was of the same trade, stayed with them and worked; for they were tentmakers by trade.⛺🏕
• Acts 20:34 - You know that these hands of mine [Paul's] have worked to supply my own needs and even the needs of those who were with me.
• 1 Thessalonians 2:9 - [Paul says]: Don’t you remember, dear brothers and sisters, how hard we worked among you? Night and day we toiled to earn a living so that we would not be a burden to any of you as we preached God’s Good News to you.
• 2 Thessalonians 3:8 - We never accepted food from anyone without paying for it. We worked hard day and night so we would not be a burden to any of you.
• 2 Thessalonians 3:10 - For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
*Many Women Accompanied Jesus & 12 Apostles in Missionary Work*:
• Luke 8:2, 3
• Matthew 27:55
• Romans 16:3 - Paul called Aquila *& wife Prisca [also called Pricilla]*
fellow workers in Christ. (Acts 18:2)
• Acts 18:24-26 - Aquila *& wife Prisca [also called Pricilla]* taught Apollos
Actually they didn't knock on my door, they came up to us whilst we were under the car. My parents ran a childrens home for the Baptist Church so their ministry was 24/7 day and night no let up. The door scene was trying to show the many disrespectful responses to JW's they sometimes have to endure. The story is true, from my own life and I saw that this closed minded attitude was also evident among the JW's. Quick answers to your questions - Yes I have always been involved in personal evangelism - have a look at my youtube channel. But not exclusively door to door, though I have done door to door. I have never been paid for the work I do for the Lord, I have never fleeeced the flock, I have often worked with women in ministry and sat under their teaching, I would suggest however that the real test is if people display the gifts of the spirit - of love, joy, peace, patients, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control - it doesn't matter what things you do as much as if you have love. I hope my short response has helped. Thannkyou for watching and commenting. God Bless.
have you denied the God of Jesus?
Thanks for watching an commenting on my video. In answer to your question please not take a look at my short video it takes less than a minute. God Bless. czcams.com/users/shortsF20qJzRGg3I?feature=share
Are you talking about the Father.?
Or are you trying to shoehorn in the god of Watchtower..?
Surely you are not calling the false "god" of Watchtower, the "God" of Jesus....
@@mattmurdock2868 are you denying the very God of Jesus ?
@@bretherenlee1404
No.
Jesus has a God and Father.
But it is not the false "Jehovah" of Watchtower.
He is only "god" of Watchtower.
Here is what the Father tells us.
"This is My beloved Son. HEAR HIM!"
Mk.9:7
"HEAR HIM!"
Here is what the Son says.
"FOLLOW ME."
Mt.4:19
"FOLLOW ME."
Mt.8:22
"FOLLOW ME."
Mk.1:17
"FOLLOW ME."
Mk.8:34
"FOLLOW ME."
Jn.1:43
The FATHER SAYS to "Hear Him!"
The Son says,
"FOLLOW ME."
The Spirit was sent to the followers of Jesus, to help in the preaching of the gospel of Christ.
The Godhead, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, all working together to gain followers for Christ.
So tell me, Brethren Lee, who is "Jehovah?"
Who is this "god" who would draw followers unto himself.?
Who is this "Jehovah," who says, "follow me."
Who is this god who sends out followers in his name.?
The followers of Christ were sent out in HIS name.
In the name of Jesus they were sent out with the Spirit sent from the Father.
The followers of Christ were not sent out in the name of the Father.
Or to preach and teach in the name of the Father, but of the Son.
So, again, this god of Watchtower, this "Jehovah," sending out his own followers, preaching and teaching in his name, who is he.?
Not the Father, who says, "Hear Him!"
Not the Son, who says, "Follow Me."
Not the Spirit, sent by the Father.
"Jehovah" is only god of Watchtower, an interloper in the Kingdom.
@@mattmurdock2868 do you deny that Jesus told all that he was created?
They are kinda culty tho....
Very culty, I’d certainly call them a cult. Very controlling and isolating of their members.
look up Cult you find Religon!!
@@mrm8850 *ONLY JWs can study the Bible* and come to the conclusion that their top 8 elders (Kenneth Cook, Samuel F. Herd, Geoffrey Jackson, Mark Stephen Lett, Gerrit Losch, Anthony Morris III, Mark Sanderson, David H. Splane) are the "faithful & wise slave" that Jesus mentioned in the 2,000+ year old Bible. That this "entity", someone from the Bible lives here today in 2022 in modern day Warwick, New York at JWs headquarters and that they (average JWs) "need to obey" them. JWs believe this. LOL Yes, JWs are a cult!
"We *need to obey* the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 page24 Simplified English Edition
"At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. *All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."* - Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20
The only thing missing now is the koolaid!
Actually, JWs didn't study the Bible and decide that their top elders are who Jesus mentioned in Matthew. Their top elders told average JWs that "they" were Jesus' faithful & wise slave. Average JWs just accepted what these 8 men said. Accepted, never voted on, never discussed, never questioned, just accepted. Yes, JWs are a cult!
I agree with you otherwise, but acting like all non Christians are blind people who are lost and in need of your help is not very nice at all, even if you'd do the preaching respectfully. That's like thinking that all blind people are lost, and forcing your help on them, even if they know perfectly well where they are and have their own guide dog to help them already.
I agree that it’s of no value and certainly not appreciated forcing your help on anyone. Is it arrogant though believing that Jesus is the only way? I made this short video to respond to that. Is it arrogant to say Jesus the only way! #shorts
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so you got all the Answers??
I'm a Jehovahs Witness and proud to be part of our international congregation. This video is load of rubbish. The bible says to shake the dust off your feet and go somewhere else. Jesus Christ. Love is Patient and Kind. Demonstrate that and use foul language. I used to be part of the cult that is the Born Again movement. Nobody showed me any love when I was there. I get lots of love from my congregation and I return that love. Jesus said Love one another. All people will know that you are my disciples if you have love for one another. God is love.
05:45 - "demonstrated to them that they were interested in the truth". Well you are not interested in "the truth", that is a conceit. Truth is what observed facts tell us, not a myth from a book. I'm sure you are a very decent guy, but you are not interested in "the truth", you are interested in presenting a myth as the truth and that is dishonest.
Hi Brighton Dude! Thanks for watching and commenting. Thanks for saying that you are sure that I am a very decent guy (I don't get that too often haha). Would you agree that in the area of science truth needs to not only be observed as you say but be repeatable, truth in the area of history needs not only to have been observed but also documented and collaborated, and would you agree that in another area- such as understanding love, justice etc truth needs to be demonstrated? Jesus claimed to be the truth. He said that knowing the truth will set us free. The truth he was talking about needed to be demonstrated which he did in his life, his death and his resurrection, it was demonstrated in history so their needs to be documents that record it and can be collaborated. I am sure that if you investigate it this truth can be substantiated. I think categorising truth as just what can be observed is too narrow - would you agree?
your depressing!!
@MikesStoryNumber That was a very kind response to a person that APPEARS to have their mind made up and was fishing for argument and conflict.
Well done.
I hope one day, he DOES investigate the Truth found only in Jesus of the Gospels ( since "Jesus" seems to be twisted into prophet, angel, man, or God the Son who needs His Mother to help with the heavy lifting).
God bless!
Jesus is god read the Bible 🥰
Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Like a number of other cults the JW's have come up with their own version of the bible. In this version they have tried to remove any reference to Jesus' divinity.
Pslm 36v59 LivEng Jehovah, your friendliness is in the skies,your faithfulness up to the heavens v9 For with YOU is the SOURCE OF LIFE so reasoning nothing would exist unless Jehovah gave it life that would include His only begotten Son, the beloved Jesus Christ. Clearly Jesus is not God. 😍🤔
@@mutata057 thanks for watching and commenting. Your reasoning discounts the doctrine of the trinity. See my video How I explained the Trinity, one God in three persons, to my kids. Story 52
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@@MikesStoryNumber tks for acknowledgement Mike. If Jehovah is Source of life how can there ever be a trinity?
Jesus was not the Son before his birth
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
Quran 5 48
''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
Islam mean "submission" to God
( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )
Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds )
God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.
( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.
Question to Muslim and Christian:
Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise )
On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
Wow Syd that has got to be the longest comment I have ever received on one of my videos! My answer is comparatively minute…. And that is that Jesus said “no one comes to the Father but through me” and just a note for Christians Heaven is just an interim location our final destination is to reign with God in our new transformed resurrected bodies in the newly transformed world.
@@MikesStoryNumber God bless you friend and thanks !!!
is there a short version??
Chuck 'em down the stairs....
you like stairs??
@MR M well about stairs....at least with stairs you've got up and down so your a winner here!!!
With Jehovahs Witnesses there's only down...
Any comeback??? If your smart you'll say nothing.
@@muttleysmith726 i would judge to quick its not over yet!!
@@mrm8850 can you rephrase that..
I don't quite know what you mean??
What's not over??
@@muttleysmith726 you work it out you got all the answers!!
i found it very dry i think people need to be more respective to Jehovah witnesses instead of being a total TOOL!!
Treating everyone with respect and gentleness! I think on that we agree. Though I don’t know if calling someone a “total tool” conforms with that sentiment 😀
@@MikesStoryNumber you dont have such!!
Este hombre está zumbado
Gracias por ver y comentar. ¡Me llaman loco muchas veces! Espero que lo hayas disfrutado. ¿Cómo se escucha si se habla español?
@@MikesStoryNumber
Mike , se oye bien CHINGON , real tough,
awesome keep on going Mike with this layer's of the watchtower.
@@AlexFlores-je2uj thanks 🙏
John 6:38for I have come down from heaven to do, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. 39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he(Jehovah*) has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father(Jehovah*), that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day... .. notice who's will he came down from heaven to do? Not his own will but his father's in heaven ( so how can he be God if Jesus said himself that he did not come down to do his own will, wouldn't that make him a hypocrite or a liar if he was god in heaven and also God on Earth... But Jesus was and is A god( but is not GOD( Jehovah))
Matthew 24:36 Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.. now we know Jesus is the son , so if he is God in heaven also how did he not know the hour of Armageddon at this time?( Because if he was also God he would know this wouldn't he?🤷
Luke 22:42 Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.... so Jesus didn't want to go through this death ( so by ur logic why was he praying to himself in heaven to remove the cup from himself when if he was god he would have the power to do himself.. also again notice let not my will but your take place.. again Wouldn't his and Jehovah will be the same if he was God, would he be praying to himself to remove the cup from himself if he had the power to do it himself..
Philippians 2:5,6Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God...this scripture says that Jesus was not equal to god so how can he be Almighty god if he was inferior to God...
John 17:20, 21
20 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one,+ just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you,+ that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me.
Galatians 4:44But when the full limit of the time arrived, God sent his Son, who was born of a woman and who was under law...(notice god sent his son from heaven)
Mark 10:18 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God.... if Jesus was God he wouldn't of questioned his greetings, he would of accepted it....and he wouldn't of replied nobody is good except one God
John 7:Jesus called out: “You know me and you know where I am from. And I have not come of my own initiative, but the One who sent me is real, and you do not know him. 29 I know him, because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me.”) notice Jesus did not come on his Own initiative.. and he told them they didn't know him( the one who sent him) again if he was God.. Jesus just told them a lie because they actually knew Jesus( the son of God)
John 14:28
You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.... clearly JESUS SAYS here that THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I AM, so there is no way he could be God the father because jesus said he is inferior to him..
John 7
16Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me.
John 12
49For I have not spoken of my own
initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.50And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.”
John 14
Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. 2 In the house of my Father are many dwelling places.
1 Peter 1:3-4
PRAISED BE THE GOD AND FATHER OF our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,4to an incorruptible and undefiled and unfading inheritance. It is reserved in the heavens for you,
John 7:3
This means EVERLASTING LIFE, their coming to know YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and THE ONE WHOM "YOU SENT", JESUS CHRIST.
1 Timothy 2:5
For THERE IS ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN "GOD AND MEN", A MAN, CHRIST JESUS,
How is Jesus Christ God when it says that he is actually the mediator between God and Men.. God is not a man but yet the Bible here calls Jesus Christ a Man... And it says that that man Jesus Christ mediates between all other man on Earth and God (Jehovah).. worthy of noting here Jesus Christ is already in heaven and the Bible is still calling jesus a man, and calling him the mediator between God and men
Hebrews 7
24but because he continues alive forever, his priesthood has no successors.25So he is able also to save completely those who are approaching God through him, because he is always alive to plead for them.
John 8
Also, in your own Law it is written: ‘The witness of two men is true.’ 18 I am one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.”
Obviously Jesus and Jehovah God are two different people or how did they meet the requirement of the two witness rule?
Matthew 5
However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, 45 SO THAT YOU MAY PROVE YOURSELVES SONS OF YOUR FATHER WHO IS IN THE HEAVENS, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous...And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing?Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? 48 YOU MUST ACCORDINGLY BE PERFECT, AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT.
Notice this is Jesus talking at this moment, yet he is telling them that the father is in the heavens but if Jesus was the father why is he telling them to prove themselves sons of your father who is in heaven? why didn't he say prove yourself sons of your father, who is here with you on Earth? Notice in verse 48, you must have accordingly be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect.. why didn't Jesus just say you must be perfect as I am perfect because Jesus was already perfect, if he was the heavenly father as well, as the son he could have just said you must be perfect as I am perfect, not you must be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect, making it clear distinction that he is not the father
1John 4
15Whoever acknowledges that "JESUS IS GOD’S SON", God remains in union with such one and he in union with God.
Philippians 2
More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend-of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground- 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father
notice Jesus was given a name above all other names and God exalted Jesus after he died faithfully, if Jesus was already Almighty God he wouldn't have to be given anything because he would already had a name above all other names, he wouldn't have to be exalted by Jehovah God because he would have already been at that position...Jehovah God doesn't have to be given anything because he already has everything (if Jesus was God that authority would have already been his no one would have to exalt him to a higher position)
Colossians 1
He(Jehovah) rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his(Jehovah) beloved Son(Jesus), 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
We know Jehovah God or almighty God had no creator he's always been... This means Jesus Christ was the first born of all creation.. that means Jesus was created, Jesus was born from God or created by God.. again Jehovah God or almighty God had no creator... Together after Jehovah God created Jesus they worked and created all other things... Notice also it says Jesus is in the image of the invisible God... If Jesus Christ was God(Jehovah) it would just say who is the "invisible God" not "in the image of the invisible God" a image is a reflection
Proverbs 8
Jehovah produced me(Jesus) as the beginning of his way,The earliest of his achievements of long ago,.From ancient times I was installed,From the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24 When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth,When there were no springs overflowing with water. 25 Before the mountains were set in place,Before the hills, I was brought forth, 26 When he had not yet made the earth and its fieldsOr the first clods of earth’s soil. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there; When he marked out the horizon on the surface of the waters, 28 When he established the clouds above,When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the seaThat its waters should not pass beyond his order,When he established the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth,And I was especially fond of the sons of men
Notice it says Jesus was produced... We know that God had no producer because he's always been it says Jesus was Jehovah earliest achievement..actually put into a position or installed... It says before the Earth was created jesud was brought forth.. again Jehovah God didn't have to be brought forth because he's always been... And then in Proverbs 8:30 it said Jesus was beside Jehovah as a the master worker.. and then it says I (Jesus) was the one Jehovah was especially fond of day by day... It says I (Jesus) rejoiced before him (Jehovah) all the time... More reason why Jesus Christ could not be God but is God's son
1 Corinthians 15
For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing. 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone...
So after reading this scripture you have to ask if Jesus Is God why is God subjecting himself to himself, and why is God giving the kingdom back to himself (considering the kingdoms already in his possession since he is the king)... Because this scripture says that Jehovah God made Jesus king and Jesus will stay King until God puts all enemies under his feet.. and it says that God or Jehovah subjected all things under Jesus feet but that doesn't mean Jehovah God subjects himself to Jesus, as the scripture points out as well and it says that Jesus will subject himself to Jehovah or God after all these things have been accomplished so Jehovah God can be all things to everyone, everyone is including Jesus, which is one more reason why Jesus can't be God, because Jesus says he will subject himself to God after his rule is over.
1 Corinthians 8
For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Notice how there is one God the Father and "we are for him", and also notice how there is one Lord Jesus Christ to whom all things are and "we through him (know the difference between Jehovah God (the father) and Lord Jesus Christ? We are for the father and we are for the father through the Lord Jesus Christ, if the father or Jehovah God in Jesus Christ was the same we would actually be for the Lord Jesus Christ as well and not through him, if we're going off with the Bible actually teaches, notice how all things are "from" the father, and then you have Jesus Christ who all things are done "through". Jehovah God gave Jesus Christ that power (or the power came from God) that Jesus has which allows him to accomplish or through that power that was given to Jesus can accomplish Jehovah God's purpose and allowed him to help him create all things that's why all things were created "through" Jesus Christ for him
John 5
For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him
This scripture teaches that the father will judge no one at all if Jesus Christ and Jehovah God were the same people or the FATHER and the SON were the same 3 in one God, the father would do just as much judging as the son did because they will be sharing the same body, but this says the father entrusted all judging to the Son meaning the father won't do any judging at all, one more reason why Jesus Christ cannot be Jehovah God because Jehovah God or the father will not judge anybody at all only Jesus Christ our heavenly King will judge mankind at Armageddon
Hi Nick, thanks for such a comprehensive comment, I appreciate the time that must have taken, even if it was a lot of cutting and pasting. The thing is if you accept the concept that God is a Trinity it all makes sense.Let me define what I mean by the Trinity; that within the one Deity there are three seperate Persons who are coequal in power, nature and eternity. I made a video that explains that concept and why I think some people find it hard to get their minds around. Have a look at it at the link at the end of this comment. Thanks for watching and commenting. God Bless.
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You need to read the book The Desire of Ages. It will explain a lot . Beautiful book about Jesus.
@@MikesStoryNumber You can't consider the Holy Spirit a co-equal because we are not supposed to worship the Holy Spirit or honor the holy spirit as we're supposed to worship Jesus as we worship and honor the father as it says at John 5, so the Trinity based on that concept could not work for me.. it's just easier to accept Jesus as the son of God, my heavenly King and savior, and, Jehovah God as his father and the holy spirit as the teacher and helper... All three separate beings, with their own job and purpose.. it's impossible to accept a concept or a word ( if you're spiritual minded) that is not even found in the Bible.. Im never told to pray through the holy spirit ( Im only told to pray for holy spirit).. so before I can personally accept something the Bible dosent teach it has to make sense.. there are just to many scriptures that prove they are not equals, not even in power of eternity because the Bible teaches in proverbs ( I shared the account) that Jesus was brought forth and installed, so Jesus is not even equal in eternity to his father because Jesus had to born from God, which means his father Yahweh was hear longer.. all 3 are in Union to accomplish the same purpose, just like true Christian are in Union with Jesus Christ and Jehovah God to accomplish their purpose on earth, but we are not equals.. i think if the word "Trinity' was taken out or dismissed since the Bible dosent use or teach the word, it would save people alot of unnecessary confusion caused by that word
I read where you said the people in Jesus day understood Jesus perfectly. These are the people, all with one mind, to kill Jesus. At John 8:44, Jesus told them "you are from your Father the Devil. That one was a murderer when he began". All murderers think alike for the purpose of destroying what they did not create. Are you positive that you want to stick to those words of yours that the murderers understood Jesus perfectly, and you understand Jesus perfectly in the same way they did? If you are sticking with those words then you thrown yourself in the bunch of those determined to destroy Jesus. There is nothing concealed that by your own words will not be revealed. Thanks for this very revealing comment of yours
As you know the Jews followed the law to the letter. History tells us that they even frowned on wearing thongs (flip flops) on the Sabbath as they thought that the action of lifting the sandals could be equated as work. I am sure that they did not consider themselves murders but rather upholders of the law! Leviticus 24:16 instructed them to execute someone who blasphemed. They were so focused on the law however that they missed the fact that the promised Messiah was amongst them. If Jesus had just been a healer they would have just debated if his healing powers were from God or Satan which they did, If he just agitated them with his teaching and criticism they just would have said he was mad, even his own family thought that, but to claim to be God well that was a death sentence unless of course you were. When John the Baptist had his doubts, Jesus quoted the proofs from Isaiah. But the Jews could not see past his claims to be God, how he even implied that he would replace the temple. Thomas doubted Jesus, especially when he saw him killed, like most Jews they only wanted to see the Messiah as a conquering king so they ignored all those references to him being a suffering servant, but when he saw him in his transformed resurrected body, alive he too said My Lord and my God! So yes I think they got this part of the puzzle correct.
@@MikesStoryNumber Thanks for your sincere response to my comments. I now have a few simple and easy questions for you regarding your understanding and the jews understanding being correct that Jesus committed the Leviticus 24:16 blasphemy and rightfully fell under the penalty of death. If my understanding of your position is correct then you should have no problem answering these simple and easy questions. 1. Is it possible for a blasphemer to raise himself from the dead as is the John 2:19 popular belief? 2. If Jesus is Almighty GOD, can Almighty GOD committ blasphemy? 3. Can Almighty GOD die and after three days raise Himself from the dead? 4. Is being dead the same as being alive or is death the opposite of life. These are simply easy questions that I am sure you can answer. Thanks for your answers.
Hi Kenneth! Let me clarify, in their eyes he was blaspheming because of course they did not accept his claim to be God, or the Messiah. Because he was who he said he was he was simply stating the truth. So I think that renders your questions 1 and 2 obsolete. Although I view questions 3 and 4 as easy as you say, I am aware that if you are a JW I have to take account that you and I mean different things, or have different interpretations of the terms that you use in the questions. JW's call Jesus a mighty god not the Almighty God, which creates two Gods which goes against scripture, they don't accept Jesus Divinity or the idea of the Trinity and they also have a different view of death and deny Jesus bodily resurrection that also differs from scripture. So it seems if you are a JW Ken your questions are loaded hahaha. But I will answer them as I would normally so (3.) God the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead as it says in Romans 8:11 and (4 )death is when my body stops working but as a Christian I have a hope of a new transformed resurrected body when Jesus comes again. I've just put a short video on the Trinity. It is not a comprehensive defence of it but it tries to address the response that it just doesn't make sense I'll put the link at the end of this comment.Now Ken tell me your story, who are you and what has formed your views on Jesus? czcams.com/video/HcWBFgWO8Vk/video.html
@@MikesStoryNumber Mike your general comments suggest you were a JW in some previous life, because you know more about the JWs than I do. What I do know is how to answer Bible questions using the truthful proofs the Bible contains. I also know how to identify when someone is a hater of Gen 2:17 and is a lover and promoter of Gen 3:4. They always go beyond everything truthful to conceal his true identity as agents of John 8:44-45. This is my response to your June 1st clarification attempt where you claimed you can answer my four simple and easy questions but unskillfully went out of your way to answer none. I will use my first question to you as an example of this your inability to answer questions. My first question to you was 'Is it possible for a blasphemer to raise Himself from the dead as is the John 2:19 belief? A clear and honest answer would be either, 'yes He can, because at John 2:19 this blasphemer said he intended to raise Himself after three days, or no, He cannot because no blasphemer can ever deserve the backing of Holy Spirit to raise them from the dead. Honesty is not something that anyone can teach a lover and promoter of Gen 3:4. They are hopelessly victims of their own self deception. Questions 2, 3 and 4, were dealt with in the same way you handled question 1. The reason why Trinitarians cannot chance to answer any question truthfully, is because they are always fearful of revealing their true John 8:44-45 source and identity. I understand Mike, it has happened before. Most times in the past even the most vocal of Trinitarians take to the closet and never emerge from hiding to answer even one question. At John 3: 21-21 Jesus explains tha they fear identity exposure and reproof. Jesus then adds that those who love truth always come to the light because of their confidence that their deeds are from Almighty GOD. Feel free to put me and my truthfulness to the test in the way I placed you and your truthfulness on test, using the same topic that prompted my interest in your claim, as to whether you and the Jews were correct in labeling Jesus was a blasphemer. Let us get this debate going Mike. Do not take to the closet. Remember you claim that you have the wisdm from the Bible on your side. Let's get it going Mike.
@@kennethwilliams5090 Hi Ken. It’s a bit early in our discussion to be declaring that I am a liar, the devil, that I am evading your questions and heading to hide in the closet, isn’t it? Remember my video? What happened to the gentleness and respect? Let’s approach this discussion as two sincere truth seekers endeavouring to understand the others point of view and accepting or rejecting it on its merit. Let’s keep clear of derogatory remarks about each other. Now if this is going to be an ongoing discussion would you prefer moving to another platform, or even to a zoom meeting? I could send you a zoom link? As I receive lots of comments and I find that CZcams doesn’t always point me to the location of your last comment. Anyway something to consider. I’m also retired and typing is not my favourite pastime - hence why I make videos. Now in relation to the questions you asked, I did not think I evaded them. The first two were predicated on the statement that Jesus was a blasphemer. Of course I deny this, as I believe he was God. So his statement was true. The other two questions I answered? If you believe my answers to be deficient what is your answer? I have always tried to be open minded with regard to people such as yourself please view my video brainwashed which outlines how I came to the view that we should not discount people simply because they disagree with us. Also you didn’t answer my last question to you in my last comment. Here is the link czcams.com/video/g51ZYBFwed4/video.html
ARE YOU A CRAZY!
Thanks for watching and commenting. I've had many people call me crazy and I suppose by many people's standards I am, but I have found that following God's advice trumps anyone elses. Check out my video czcams.com/users/shortsj_lNNas_EQo?feature=share
JWs "truth"? "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
"Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added
Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture.
"suggested dates, wrong expectations" in God's name? yes, these ARE false prophecies from the Jehovah Witness Organization.
God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope, just a false religion!