Can Black Metal Vocals Hurt your Throat?
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Can Black Metal Vocals Hurt your Throat? We've all been listening to this myth and here is my opinion about it. There is also one situation i did not mention in the video, and that's when i played one live show and one of the black metal vocalists said that the guy we played with is going to destroy his throat, that was 5 years ago and the guy is still singing. I guess he was jelaous, because his vocals were phenomenal :P
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I missed videos like that, thanks man! :D
That shower skit LOL
I am singing for 30 years now (trash, death, viking and 20 years of black metal) and you doesn't died or even loose your voice. Stay black metal !
Yeah but if my troath hurt, i need to wait 1 day and try it again and eventually i will sing great ???
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Drink alot during your practice. Natural Water on roomtemperature and a lot of it :)
Don't know which technique you're using I do fc, and I can say in the beginning it may feel a bit itchy or even slightly hurt but thats for about the first days. If you have heavier, long lasting pain you're doing it wrong.
I totally didnt give a shit about drinking from where I started so my throat was not that thankful.
I can just speak for fc/death, think Black metal kind of more uses some fry variation. With FC it sounds good also, but fry is easier and has more variations on the higher register, I can't do it (without fucking up my tonsils) anyway, with FC / death 2-3 hours without any problems right now.
It's all about finding a technique that fits, don't overdo (don't push if your throat is dry, itchy or whatever) / drink while practice, practice as much as possible and go for your own sound.
Practice is everything, you will sound like garbage for a longer period of time, be prepared for that, especially if you're doing FC its easy to get the right distortion but takes a lot of time and effort to make it sound the way you wanna have it.
Hope that helps
I learned to do BM vocals the raw way and of course, i would shred my throath. But the more you do them the less they hurt. Also, im early. No one cares.
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Yeah when it starts to hurt, stop for an hour or two or wait until the next day , eventually you'll get there.
@@codevoid4238 and drink lots of water
If anyone is wondering what he was singing in the shower its Burzum - War
HRV.
Ako iko nezna sta je pivao u tusu to je bia burzum -war
When I first sang for my BM band's demo, I was a bit hoarse for the next hours but I already knew about the diaphragm thing. In the second demo, I managed to scream my ass off the whole day of recording and not hurt my throat. So make sure to learn some theory and put it to practice!
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Damn that’s fucking kickass black metal man
intro is mind blowing
Dude, how do you manage to smoke AND perform this kind of Vocals?
smoking on purpose so i can prove nothing can hurt my vocals :P
Well... :D
Wait is smoking supposed to hurt vocals cuz I haven’t noticed a difference in mine since I started
@@sageesquivel1375 smoking is fine for singing and harsh vox, it's just pretty shit for everything else. not judging though, i like to light the ocassional cig myself
Ask that to Niklas Kvarforth from shining xDD one of my favs
The intro is exactly what I do in the shower 😂😂😂
The thing about it hurting only if you don't do it properly, is kind of true. Of course, the first time will be a bit difficult and it will hurt a little bit, but if you find your technique, you will be able to do it, even on the first try. But if you just jump into it and scream at the top of your lungs without practice, you will fuck up your throat. But there are also many ways to minimize pain.
First of all, if it hurts, then stop and try again later. You will find, that you will be able to push further and further. I know, I couldn't go very high when I started, but now I sometimes scare myself with how high I can go. And there's still room for going higher, it's only a matter of time and practice.
Get hydrated, keep your throat wet. Pain usually comes when your throat dries up and gets too coarse. Surprisingly, water isn't the best thing to combat this. I find semi-cold milk much more effective. I also noticed, that I can go much further after eating greasy foods, while dry salty foods ruin my performance.
And of course, warm up, otherwise you may run out of breath. And once you run out of breath, not only will your throat start hurting, you will also sound like arse.
TL:DR - Yes it can ruin your throat, but only if you're a fucking idiot.
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Agree. Gradual practice in pronouncing the words helps too for it gave more control especially when changing tones and timing, also trying find the style that fits your voice originality is the best path.
Yeah when I was teaching myself how to do it, it took me awhile to actually figure it out (because I was listening to music and then trying to copy/figure it out) It hurt, once or twice, but after awhile I found my technique found ways where it doesn't hurt.
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1:30, that's why I'm subscribed my man.
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After developing your own style and practicing it for quite awhile it doesn't become painful, it just becomes a normal thing.
And people who say stuff like "hurrdurr if it doesn't hurt ur not doing it right" are bullshitting. I mean, it's not gonna feel like the most pleasant thing at first but your throat will develop with plenty of practice (and water) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wouldn't listen to the guy above me any aspiring BM vocalists, it will be uncomfortable at first, but you shouldn't feel a sharp pain, otherwise you are indeed damaging your throat.
Alexander Nordgaren from the Norwegian Band Fleurety actually hurt his vocal chords, because of his extremely high and unconventional screams he used .
By the way good video 🤘🏻
I’m naturally a lot better at death growls and can do yell screams but actually became interested in black metal so I wanted to learn it but ended up just learning fry screaming you can get some pretty awesome high black metal sounding screams but I think Most important factor is to scream the way you scream and then let your artistic sense drive the way you pronounce things because I feel pronunciation it’s probably one of the most important factors to your metal screams. Anyway thanks for this video man This genuinely made me laugh my ass off actually when I first started screaming I screamed with my throat even when it hurt But then eventually I sat there and was like these vocalists I looked up to for inspiration are able to do this for hours I can only do one song and eventually I learned how to do metal vocals the proper way.
Yes it can. If you're a bitch!! That cracked me up!!!
Thank you! I was wondering about this.
I'd love to see that vocal warm-up video!
Its all about learning good technique and then after that, it just takes a bit of practice.
I take breaks in between takes and use pure honey followed by warm coffee.
Paul Di'Anno started to damage is throat while singing in iron maiden so self medicated with alcohol and cocaine, eventually the medication turned to addiction and he was also to fucked up to perform which is why he was kicked out
There are various theories i've heard about him leaving iron maiden. I only know that he is still performing their songs and it doesn't seem that he has any troubles. He was always more a rock n roll guy than rest of the guys.. that might explain his adiction. I watched all of theirs documentaries
Zimorog Band that's just the main thing I keep in hearing about him, not saying it's true just I've heard the most about him. Shame, the two albums he did with them are my favourite
Maiden have no bad albums imo. Tho i'm more a piece of mind/powerslave guy
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this vid is better than any tutorial
The answer to that question is NO, if you do it properly. Many vocalist practice for years and have had proper vocal training to do screams and shrieks without damaging your vocal chords.
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1:03 haha
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or crispy corn flakes
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That works for me too. But to honest Black Metal vocals to me at least come more naturally than say Death Metal vocals.
@@zimorog Oh yeah, crispy
Some people have natural skill for extreme vocals, some don't.
Does you get a flue or some kind in youre throate?
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I'm like 14 doing BM vocals and I have voice cracks should I do them More Blackend Death style so I don't get voice cracks or am I just a dumbass lol
practice other genres like thrash or death
About extreme vocal. False cords = good. Vocal cords = not good, so traumatic. You can check "hellscream academy" channel for getting more info about it
DEAD WAY not true. Fry screams can produce screams with the "true" cords by compressing the larynx allowing the vocal folds to phonate while relaxed and bunched together by passing air through.
Jesse false cord is ANATOMY ya idjit. Its not bullshit its proven science. Your false cords are just one way of creating screams safely with your voice.
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