🌿 Philodendron Goeldii or Thaumatophyllum Spruceanum? My 1-Year Verdict! ✅

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  • @angelahegbom9053
    @angelahegbom9053 Pƙed 19 dny

    My parents had a t. Selloum, also known as philodendron regale and “split leaf philodendron” for many, many years. I was in my mid 30’s when he died, easily 35-40 years old plant. Such an incredible plant. Aerials for days, giant split leaves, easy care, and a stem easily 6’ long.

  • @Kate.g.
    @Kate.g. Pƙed 20 dny +3

    I am Canadian 🇹🇩 This plant is very easy to find here too, the price is pretty the same than a Monstera Deliciosa 😅 This plant have often a tag with the mention « easy plant » « beginner plant » 😆 availability of plants varies greatly from country to country! Nice video Memo 💛

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      That’s so interesting, Kate! It’s great that it’s easy to find there, and it’s funny how plant availability can be so different depending on where you are. Thanks for watching! 💛

  • @carolstuff
    @carolstuff Pƙed 17 dny

    It’s a beautiful plant Memo! Love how the leaves form a circle when matured. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jennthezumbanator5242
    @jennthezumbanator5242 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    I love this plant. It had a brief spider mite issue but didn’t suffer damage. I also have the Stenolobum, “Lickety Split”, and African Fantasy. All in semi-hydro. I LOVE my thaumatophyllum collection. Definitely looking for more.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Your collection sounds incredible! 🌿 Semi-hydro seems to be working wonders for you. Glad the spider mites didn’t do any lasting damage. I’m sure you’ll find more to add to your collection soon! 😊 Soooooo jealous that you managed to score a stenolobum, they look amazing.

  • @rakyat_biasa91
    @rakyat_biasa91 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    I’m in Malaysia, got this plant recently as the main statement plant in my living room after seeing a huge one in a cafe. It’s dirt cheap here especially considering the size you get out of the box but also not too commonly seen
 yet. Loving it so far!

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      What a fantastic statement plant! 🌿 It must look stunning in your living room. It’s great that it’s affordable there too-sounds like you scored a great deal! 😊

  • @mwatson4970
    @mwatson4970 Pƙed 20 dny +2

    Yay! Goeldii as I still call it is one of my favorite plants! It does occasionally get thrips but never an infestation and it doesn't seem to affect it's growth with or without them, anyway. I have however knocked it over before as it got soooooo heavy to one side. Thanks for covering this plant!
    P.S. I don't think they tissue culture these over here in US. Got mine as a 5" tall one for I think $10 3 yrs ago and now the tallest stalk is just below 4 feet long and has about 12 leaflets each.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Sounds like your Goeldii is thriving despite the occasional thrip visit! 🌿 Those tall plants can get top-heavy, for sure. And wow, 4 feet-what a beauty! Thanks for sharing your experience with it! 😊

  • @aplantprocess
    @aplantprocess Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    Here in SoCal, we seem to have a more limited variety of plants that are common in other areas of the US. But I found this at a reasonable price at a higher end plant shop. They had a lot and they were similar size and I don’t know if that is automatically an indicator of TC but
 it seems so. I’m cool with it. It grow beautifully from a seedling to a mature plant. Each leave changed and I absolutely loved that. My space is limited though and this one continued to have thrips after I managed to break the cycle for other plants so it had to go. I was sad but it was also probably inevitable because it was starting to outgrow all my available spaces.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      Sounds like you got a good deal! 🌿 It’s always a tough call when space is limited, especially when they outgrow everything. Those thrips just don’t know when to quit! But at least it left a lasting impression before moving on. 💚

  • @mychynnagirl1
    @mychynnagirl1 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    I have this plant in a chunky mix and am happy to now know they love water. I've been leaving it on a bit of the dry side. The only issue I've experienced is the green fading on leaves. No bugs and I do fertilize. Never more than 4 leaves. About 30 dollars in southeast US.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Glad the video helped! đŸŒ± Giving it a bit more water might just be the trick to getting that green to pop again. The fading could also be a light issue-maybe try adjusting that too. But it sounds like it’s doing pretty well overall! 😊

  • @aprilburgin8505
    @aprilburgin8505 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    I’m in the states in Oregon. I’m three years)since it’s been on my wishlist), I’ve only seen this at a retail shop one time. They had four in total. Of course I bought one! It was $40.00 USD. At the time of purchase, it was infested with aphids. To be fair, it was an outdoor nursery. In the six months that I’ve owned it, I’ve had zero pests. Even had a mass spider mite problem with multiple plants around it. The Goldii was untouched. So
 I’m with you. I think it’s fairly undesirable to the pests. I’ll be eager to see what other people’s experience is on the matter!
    Thanks for yet another piece of cool content!

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      So glad you finally found one! đŸŒ± It’s interesting how it’s been pest-free despite the initial aphid encounter. Sounds like you’ve got a resilient plant on your hands! Thanks for sharing your story-let’s see what others have to say! 😊

  • @thumpaharley7564
    @thumpaharley7564 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    I’ve had mine almost 3 years super easy plant, no pest issues. Each new leaf gets more leaflets started very slow but once it put out a leaf it continued, it’s very tall about 3 feet lives outside in summer, west window in winter. I haven’t proped mine and wouldn’t know how either. I have never lost a leaf either. Great plant if you can find one :) I’m in US found plant at a lil Amish greenhouse while on vacation for $8.00 rarely see it in state I live in.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Three years and it sounds like it’s thriving! 🌿 That $8 deal is incredible-such a steal! I know right how would a cutting work on this plant đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž. But honestly, sounds like it’s doing great just the way it is! đŸŒ±

  • @jamiecalvert9242
    @jamiecalvert9242 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    I’ve never had a pest on mine either. I used to have it directly below a grow light and it would only keep 3 leaves. I placed it outside and it’s has been growing so fast. Loves the light

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      It’s amazing what a difference some natural light can make! 🌞 So glad to hear it’s thriving outside-sounds like it found its happy place! 🌿

  • @lindaedwards4632
    @lindaedwards4632 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    Cool plant 👍 I hadn’t seen or heard of this plant until recently. I saw it on Irene’s video from @leafingaround in Thailand. It was planted in a beautiful garden. 😀🇹🇩

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Thanks, Linda! 🌿 Irene has such great content-it must have looked amazing in that garden! Glad you discovered it here too. 😊

  • @vicky3792
    @vicky3792 Pƙed 21 dnem +3

    Love mine. Still pretty small, just uppotted not long ago. It was cheap and my rare plant nursery has a ton now and has always had them. I had to go look to see if I was getting a new leaf. One on the way but it’s growing slower since I moved it to less light. Think I will move it back to better light. No pests but thirsty like you mentioned. Great, easy and interesting plant. Thanks for the video.

    • @vicky3792
      @vicky3792 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      Mine is in soil and it’s doing great. Chunky aroid mix. Even though it’s thirsty mine deals with drought very well too. It was actually bone dry when I went to check it so thanks for that. đŸ€Ł

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      That’s awesome, Vicky! 🌿 Sounds like your plant is thriving. Moving it back to better light should definitely help with that growth! These plants love their hydration, don't they? Keep me posted on how it does in its new spot! 😊

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      Haha, glad the reminder was timely! 😂 They’re surprisingly resilient, aren’t they? That chunky aroid mix is perfect for keeping them happy. Keep rocking it! đŸŒ±

  • @Suadade1983
    @Suadade1983 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    I’ve grown my Spruceanum quite large and would be scared to chop! Lucky you have several there. One of my favorite plants but takes up quite a lot of real estate! I bought it in Arizona from a small greenhouse about a year ago for $30 and haven’t seen it in my area since. Never had a pest on it either! đŸ€— I have the Bipinnatifidum as well- equally easy to care for and needs so much space. Thanks so much!!

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      It’s always nerve-wracking to think about chopping such a beautiful plant! 😅 Sounds like you’ve got a solid collection going. I love how these plants can thrive without much pest drama. Thanks for sharing your experience! 😊

  • @LivingAloneinNC
    @LivingAloneinNC Pƙed 16 dny

    I got a 4” pot of this in North Carolina last year and it cost about $9. It’s gotten spider mites, but doesn’t show damage easily and doesn’t seem particularly susceptible.

  • @danielnewald4758
    @danielnewald4758 Pƙed 19 dny +1

    i got one of mine as a fresh cutting in a grandma-stile flower shop which had a huge neglected plant in a dark corner that must have been 30+ years old
    at first i thought it wasn't going to make it, because i left only 3 leaves and quite a bit of stem and they started yellowing one by one over a few months, but finally after half of the last leaf died it started growing and has beein going strong ever since
    my second larger plant i got under the name Philodendron 'Fun Bun' which seems to be the most common name in retail and that probably comes out of tissue culture (most likely) and the funny thing is that one doesn't produce and sugary sirup or maybe it doesn't have extrafloral nektaries at all, while the other one, always has lots of dried sugar drops on it, as i said that may be the result of TC.
    Thrips killed my very first cutting, but after an initial pest pressure in my collection, which i treated, both my current ones have been good ever since and while i wouldnt call them fast growers it is always fun to wach that one leaf and all its leafletts unfirl and visibly grow over a few weeks, the plant looks fuller with every one, at least compared to other plants
    the cuttings take quite a while to root properly though, so i'd always be worried unless it has great soil roots already
    soil works great, i grow both of mine in potting soil mixed with clay soil, i do keep it on the dry side with ocasional big waterings
    i never fertilize, thats a lie, maybe once or twice a year
    Thaumatophyllum are more adapted to out of the dense forest/ forest edge or even open terrain unlike most philodendrons, so they should tolerate dry'er conditions and full sun (in temperate europe at least)
    love the plant, how it swells the leaves from tiny things to giant stalks is so impressive to watch and it does so just fine in dry household conditions, unlike many philodendrons, good luck with yours

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Wow, what a journey with your plants, Daniel! 🌿 It sounds like you’ve really mastered the art of nurturing these cuttings, even through the ups and downs. That’s fascinating about the differences between your TC plant and the cutting - interesting about the extra floral nectaries! Thrips can be such a pain, but it’s great to hear that your plants are thriving now. The way they transform from tiny leaves to those impressive stalks is truly mesmerizing. Thanks for sharing your experience and tips-wishing you continued success with your growing collection! 😊

  • @CrossCultural-c7f
    @CrossCultural-c7f Pƙed 20 dny +3

    I bought a 3” talll (7.5 cm) little Thaumatophyllum spruceanum in May 2022 via mail order from an Etsy seller based in Florida. I planted the baby in a chunky soil mix of fir bark, pumice and compost. It sits near a north facing window in a self watering pot since my tendency is to forget to water. For me, pests on Thaumatophyllum spruceanum are non existent.
    As of August 2024, it has grown to 48” (122 cm) tall and is 36” (91.5 cm) wide. I am stunned at how fast it has grown. My dilemma is that it takes up a lot of horizontal space and it’s difficult to find a place for other plants to grow..

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Wow, what an incredible growth story! 🌿 From 3” to 48” in just over two years-that’s impressive! Finding space for it must be a challenge, but what a rewarding dilemma to have. 😊

  • @soberplantguy
    @soberplantguy Pƙed 20 dny +1

    Very cool plant. I can see how that would really be greedy for horizontal space 😁

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Thanks Dave! 🌿 Yeah, this one definitely likes to spread out-perfect for filling up some space if you’ve got it! 😅😅😅

  • @silviap4478
    @silviap4478 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    Your plant is so beautiful and as a fellow over-waterer it definitely goes up on the wishlist. I love these weird leaves, I agree, they tick all the boxes. It doesn't have a janky support stick, does it? I am so lazy with those, so that would be definitely a good thing 😂
    Have you ever cared for a Schismatoglottis? They are also very thirsty aroids

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      Thank you, Silvia! 🌿 I totally get the struggle with support sticks-it’s nice when a plant doesn’t need one! And yes, Schismatoglottis are definitely thirsty plants too. They’re such a fun addition to any collection! 😊

  • @gfamily1943
    @gfamily1943 Pƙed 21 dnem +3

    Mine is a thrip magnet, I also had a hard time finding this until recently

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      Thrips can be so frustrating! 😓 Glad you were able to find one, though! Hopefully, the thrips stay away as it settles in. Have you tried neem oil or insecticidal soap? Those can sometimes help keep them in check. 🌿

    • @gfamily1943
      @gfamily1943 Pƙed 19 dny

      @@Houseplantygoodness I tried a couple different sprays and for some reason my entire collection looked great except for the fun bun. I treated it for 2 months with no success so I had to resort to warfare and bought some solders online (beneficial bugs). Those finally helped and I haven’t seen problems in a while. Fingers and toes crossed đŸ€ž
      Yes I was like you and just couldn’t find it anywhere. One day I saw it in a Costco of all places (bulk grocery store US). Even with the struggles I’m still very happy I found it 😍

  • @charliecgreenwelljr8011
    @charliecgreenwelljr8011 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    In my care it reminds me of an Alocasia. If the watering and humidity aren’t enough then it stays in the 2-3 leaf number range.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Totally get those Alocasia vibes! đŸŒ± I never thought of their needs in respect to humidity as it is in my conservaotry, but i assumed due to the leaves being similar in texture to Monstera deliciosa, that maybe it would be ok in normal humidity, but maybe not now that you mention this. 😼👍

  • @agneslazarenko2653
    @agneslazarenko2653 Pƙed 21 dnem +3

    I have a thaumatophyllum selloum, thaumatophyllum xanadu gold, and thaumatophyllum Shangri La. They are - and I hear other people confirm that - thrips central. But the weird thing is, the constant low grade thrip infestation does not bother them at all, and the thrips do not go to any other plants. Maybe they are some other kind of thrips?
    I've had them for years and they still do not have the stem, because they grow pups instead. Also, the leaves grow at an insane pace. I love them❀
    I also used to have the spruceanum, bought at a supermarket for pennies, but it must have been weak, because it didn't make it and died very promprly

    • @Horsewoman-pt2ku
      @Horsewoman-pt2ku Pƙed 20 dny +1

      So the philodendron Xanadu has been reclassified as well? It has the same root and base and growth pattern of the Goeldi

    • @agneslazarenko2653
      @agneslazarenko2653 Pƙed 20 dny +2

      @@Horsewoman-pt2ku well I bought mine as thaumatophyllum xanadu and the growwing pattern is the same as the other ones, so it makes sense :)

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Your collection sounds amazing, Agnes as always! 🌿 Thrips are such a mystery sometimes-funny how they seem to coexist with your plants without much harm. Sorry to hear about your spruceanum, though. 😱 Hopefully, you’ll find another one that’s stronger! 💚

  • @vivnightingale
    @vivnightingale Pƙed 20 dny +1

    I found one in the rhs garden shop I volunteer at. I was labelled as philodendron fun bun though so that might be another name to search. Mines still quite immature as I had to chop it back but I love it.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      That’s so interesting-it’s always fun discovering these plants under different names! 🌿 Chopping it back can be tough, but it sounds like it’s bouncing back nicely. Enjoy watching it grow! 😊

    • @TerriOsborne-xk7op
      @TerriOsborne-xk7op Pƙed 19 dny

      I've also found one labelled as philodendron fun bun - today at RHS Wisley of all places. I would have thought they would check the labels before putting plants on shelves and include reclassified names. Really looking forward to it sizing up.

  • @reneeberthelette2901
    @reneeberthelette2901 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    Found one in stock $19 Canadian for a 6 inch pot looks like it has 3 or maybe 4 leaves. Not a bad deal I think. But until my son and grandson move out I probably wouldn't get one. The 76 varieties and over 110 plant collection are enough right now 😂

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Wow, $19 is a steal! đŸŒ± But I totally get it-sometimes you just have to draw the line (even with 110 plants 😅). Maybe it’ll be a nice reward when you get some extra space! 🌿

  • @StalkerNaturaliste
    @StalkerNaturaliste Pƙed 20 dny +2

    Fυςk my comment deleted itself.
    -On the classification side of things, some autors of the paper erecting Thaumatophyllum as a genus from the subgenus Meconostigma have regretted it. It doesn't change their position on the tree of life and you can either consider them an the most primitive and peculiar Philodendron or the closest living relatives of all other Philodendron species. The genus name reference the eery eye shaped leaf scars visible on the trunk of all members of Meconostigma/Thaumatophyllum.
    -They dont specially grow close to the water, actually only one species do. Your comparison to Monstera deliciosa is on point, they have a lot of similarities. Both are drought tolerant with their fat roots, fat stems and glossy leaves. Both can grow in dry forests, in open areas and are not obligate climbers.
    -On propagation: I dont own spruceanum but I have xanadu. I tried to propagate it, no issues with the head cutting. But the headless trunk is still headless 5 years after. It's alive, jucy but just refuse to get ow a new head. Maybe I'm just unlucky or/and spruceanum is easier.
    -On availability, in Francebit's often seen in garden centers and DiY stores as huge and expensive plants (but cheap for their size it it make sense), small pots appeared only a few months ago. I think they are more available in the US because there was already a large public for selfheading and birdnest Philodendron before the pandemic in Florida for outdoor gardens and a lot of motherplants were already available during the aroid craze.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      Thanks for the detailed insights, I love when you comment as you always have so much amazing knowledge! 🌿 The history and classification of this plant are fascinating, and I’m glad you shared this info. Those eerie eye-shaped leaf scars are such a unique feature! And yeah, propagation can be hit or miss-hopefully, your spruceanum experience turns out better if you decide to give it a go. Appreciate the info on availability, too! đŸŒ±

  • @shantelb4192
    @shantelb4192 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    You are on point. Most of what I am growing is for a future home lol.. my own home to be specific

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Haha, love it! đŸŒ± Planning ahead for your future green space is definitely the way to go. Your future home is going to be a plant paradise! 🌿

  • @SparkleInMoonlight
    @SparkleInMoonlight Pƙed 21 dnem +3

    Cool plant, but I have never heard of it before.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      It’s definitely one of those under-the-radar gems! 🌿 Glad you got to discover it through the video-hope it piqued your interest! 😊

  • @ImThyme81
    @ImThyme81 Pƙed 20 dny +1

    I found a thrip on my spruceanum once, but that’s it for pests. I’ve not been treating it like a thirsty plant, so perhaps why mine hasn’t kept more than 3 leaves. I’ll have to try to be more mindful of my watering and see if it does better.

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Sounds like a solid plan! 🌿 Giving it a bit more water might just help it hold onto those leaves. Thrips can be tricky, but it’s great that it hasn’t been a bigger issue. Good luck with the new watering routine! đŸŒ±

  • @jennthezumbanator5242
    @jennthezumbanator5242 Pƙed 20 dny +2

    I’m in the US and this isn’t particularly hard to find, but it’s not something you see in every garden center, and never in box stores. Most are very small (I assume tissue culture) and many I’ve come across have been covered in thrips or spider mites 😱

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      It’s a shame about the pests 😱, but at least it’s somewhat available if you know where to look. Those small TC plants can be a challenge, but with the right care, they can grow beautifully! đŸŒ±

  • @MeTimePlants
    @MeTimePlants Pƙed 17 dny

    I love mine. It’s a chill plant. Hasn’t grown a ton, but I’m thinking it might need a up pot and to be fertilized. I don’t see them often in Florida, US.

  • @doreen9293
    @doreen9293 Pƙed 21 dnem +5

    This is all your fault. I had to get one. I think it was a year ago- whenever you got this plant. I named him Thaddeus, my very favorite plant. By the way, Amazon has them under Goldii

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Haha, guilty as charged! 😅 Thaddeus is such a great name-glad to hear he’s your favorite! And thanks for the Amazon tip; I’m sure others will appreciate that! đŸŒ±

  • @rushiaj1222
    @rushiaj1222 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    I found a couple here in the states at $35 with shipping and they have 4-5 leaves

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      That’s a great find! đŸŒ± For 4-5 leaves, that’s a pretty solid deal. Can’t wait to hear how it grows for you! 🌿

  • @jennthezumbanator5242
    @jennthezumbanator5242 Pƙed 20 dny +3

    😂😂😂 I bought all my plants with their future home in mind

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Haha, plant parent goals! đŸŒ± It’s all about planning ahead, right? Those future plant spaces are going to look amazing! 😄

  • @nunyabiz36
    @nunyabiz36 Pƙed 20 dny +2

    Harrisburg, PA area price range $7-$19

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      That’s a great price range! 🌿 Thanks for sharing the local info-hopefully, it helps others in your area find one! 😊

  • @Yoliplanting
    @Yoliplanting Pƙed 20 dny +1

    Come to the tropics, come to live Miami❀

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny +1

      Miami is a plant lover’s paradise! 🌮 I can only imagine how many amazing plants you have access to there. đŸŒ± Also I would move tomorrow if I could đŸ„°đŸ„°đŸ„°

  • @turogers13
    @turogers13 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    My sister has one that I have been pestering her for a cutting ✂ but she has no idea where to cut. ✂

    • @Houseplantygoodness
      @Houseplantygoodness  Pƙed 19 dny

      Haha, I totally get that! ✂ I still have no idea how there would be enough space between the nodes, but hopefully she figures out a way! đŸ€žđŸŒ±