1967 Camaro LS Swap. What fits, what doesn't? See how we install an LS3 Engine and T56 Transmission.
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- We take an LS swap Camaro project from another shop and make it all work. We let you know what works and what doesn't so you don't run into issues with your LS swap!
Do you have a question about this swap or another swap? Comment below!
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Great idea!, and very interesting subject, I am sure you will get a lot of followers
Great video!
Thanks for your Video 👍🏼
That's clean!
Let’s hear it run!
My Holley terminator X is the Bomb for sure
Helped a lot
Part numbers on those combos? Does the rad have EOC, PSC, if not what are you running to cool the trans, engine, and power steering? Thanks in advance.
Do you have the part number for that exact radiator? I am also going to throw in a ls3 into a 68 camero
Thanks. I didn't hear whether you had to notch the front cross member to get the oil pan to fit with enough clearance with motor vibration. I swapped and LS3 in a 69 camaro, used Holley motor Mounts and oil pan. We cleared it but still felt notching it gave us the extra room we wanted.
Also I utilized this Holley Terminator X and Holley mid rise intake. I did have to notch a very tiny piece of the underside of the hood to clear the intake to close. But, in my view that is a very small thing to do to get this install. This mid rise intake is very trick looking and well worth it. I also had the cap powder coated red and slight pin stripe across the top. Looks great and performs well.
We did not notch the frame. We also had to trim the hood a bit for the mid rise.
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance I'm doing a ls swap into a 68 camaro I would like some help with pt# for the correct motor mounts and trans mounts for a 6.0 with a 4l60e
Just found your video and thank you for the information. I’m currently installing an LS2 out of my Trailblazer SS, adding aT56. I already have the adapter plates for the mounts, ICT Billet alternator bracket, the Holley terminator x with the 3.5 screen! McLeod clutch master cylinder kit, G-force T56 crossmember and the AAW Chassis Harness. I’m running the stock truck intake and the DBW set up. I’m doing this all by myself. I’m not sure if there’s anything else I would need.
Throw in a fuel system from Tanks Inc and it sounds like you are almost there
Zero2Sixty Performance thank you! Also im converting from the Automatic to Stick. Is there a lot of cutting of the transmission tunnel?
@@Zero2SixtyPerformancewhat’s the best harness I have a 68 I wanna swap
Great video...super informative.
I'm swapping an LS1 out of a Holden Commodore (effectively the same as the 2004 GTO) into a 1967 Firebird (with a 4l60e). I have the AAW Classic Update kit and have been tossing around the idea of getting Dakota Digital gauges. What's your recommendation on the gauges, noting I'm looking to keep the externals looking as classic as possible, despite the drivetrain upgrades? And what else am i going to need to match those gauges with the AAW kit and the drivetrain? Any other tips that come to mind with that combo when it comes to the electronics would be greatly appreciated.
We use Dakota Digital on nearly every build. If you are looking for a gauge package that looks more like the factory style gauges, Classic Instruments makes a reay nice set. AAW makes installing aftermarket gauges easy by having a break out from the main harness just for gauges.
I’m putting an LS in my 67 ssrs and I was wondering if there is a bracket I should get to keep the ability to use the SS hood. I’ve heard rumors of the LS alternator not giving clearance for the SS hood
Any of the holley brackets will work
Will this engine and tranny combo fit with with a standard original 67 sub frame as far as fitting all other components? If so, are there any major or any modifications needed to be done to the subframe so it all fits? Thank you
Fits with a factory frame no problem
Can you tell me what holley oil pan you used and how close it was from tuching crossmember. The one my friend bought is barley tuching .
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Thank you for posting this. Your team really has the ls swap down. I have a 69 camaro blueprint ls3 530/ t56 combo, turn one quick ratio box,, stock small block stands w/ dirty dingo slider mounts. Can you please advise on long tube headers that will clear the steering box? Thanks again. Love the LSA firebird by the way
I name of the game is just use one companies products ans stick with it. We use Holley products with success
I have a 69 camaro a swapped for a Blueprint LS3 427. I used Holley Blackheart long tube headers. They fit great and cleared stock steering box. I tried to stick with all Holley products for compatibility across all the areas of the swap to include motor mounts and terminator X ECU. I recommend choosing your brand and try to stick with all their stuff.
What vehicle is the easiest to do an LS swap? If you are brought a rolling vehicle minus engine/trans what would the ballpark cost be for a 450-500 hp LS with 4L60E trans. I realize there are a ton of variables but I would just like to know how much I would have to budget for something like this. I liked your video and you seem to have a handle on good quality parts and precision workmanship.
Tim
Sticking to your standard "muscle car" will be the easiest just because everything is readily available. As far as a cost, the average 400hp 6l/4l80 is 18k installed
I've been watching your channel and you guys do a really clean and phenominal job on these swaps. I have a 1956 chevy 150 and i am interested in doing a ls3 swapp with a 4l80e in it. Have you guys done a vehicle like this? Any recommendations on a rear diff for this swapp, frame modifications, disk brake conversion, and etc?
We are doing a 55 right now
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance man i am so looking forward to any videos or blpgs or etc.. you produce on that build!
Great video! I'm swaping 6.0 HO from 2002 Escalade into my wife's dream car-67 Camaro. Would you mind giving a list of recommended (& choices of needed parts, companies, kits? Thanks a lot! Jonathan
Hey Jonathan, I would be happy to send you a list. If you can, send me an email at david@zerotosixtyperformance.com and I will send it over
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I have a 67 Camaro, 9 ich Ford, 4Link, coil overs, mini tubbed, new firewall, new subframe connectors, new stock subframe. Newly painted, disc brake setup all around not hocked up. no engine took 327 and power glide out. what would a setup like the one in this video run ball park with radiator, vintage air, wiring harness and exhaust?
Roughly $31k installed
I'm have 68 camaro doing a ls swap wanting to do a t56 but to much different info. Confusing do you have to cut the tunnel or no and what mount and cross member do you recommend
No cutting required. Holley mounts
Great info.. I have a 67’ with a QA1 drop suspension and freshly built posi 4 10s rear diff.. I was planning on a 383 with 700r4 in the next month or two but still deciding. I don’t want to cut the tunnel. What trans and LS would you suggest with what I have?
You can pretty much get away with any transmission in that tunnel. We do a lot of 4l80e transmissions here. The cooler lines are a bit tight but it fits. The 6L80e will fit as well but it is also very tight on the top of the tunnel.
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance really appreciate the info
What type of gas pedal setup did you use ? Factory pedal, cable hook up?
Factory pedal, Lokar cable TC-1000LSU
The T56 hooked right up to the LS3 without any adjustments needed??? I have a t56 I want to connect it with a ls3
Bolts right up
That looks nice ughhh, want to do a swap on my 68 ughh, currently looking for one ughh…
Ughh yeah that’s it ughh. Ughh one more thing. Ugh…
How did you route the oil cooler once you plugged the block for the motor mounts? I am using the same mounts, and I have to plan out the cooler and remote filter setup.
Just blocked the oil cooler ports on the pan with a factory block off and a factory freeze plug on the engine
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance Thanks. Did you run an aftermarket oil cooler?
No
I have a 67 Camaro and I have a 6.0 ls3 which a 4L80 auto and my question is will the transmission fit without modifications to drive tunnel?
Yes it will
Will a “drop out” LS3 / 6 speed from a 2015 SS Camaro fit in a ‘67 Camaro with a TCI frame? My concern is the bell housing and shifter location. Or should I just go with a “T56” from Modern driveline or similar
I would confirm with then which pan fits. I would assume you need to change the pan as you need to with most subframes. The trans will work but you will need to get a shifter relocation kit from MGW. They call it a "retro" shifter
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance Thanks!
I've been restoring a 69 camaro and have a t56 trans I'm going to use (and I'm getting an lsx 376 supercharged engine from boost district). I've heard it both ways, that the t56 will bolt right up and fit perfect, and I've also heard that you have to modify the trans tunnel to make them fit. I have the correct transmission mount for under the car but I'm curious if I need to modify the trans them before I go any further with finishing the inside of the car. The nice thing is it has a brand new floor plan with no hole so I can make it really nice and put the hole where ever I'd like without needing to patch any existing holes. But from the looks of it I need a trans hump "extension" piece from the majority of videos I've seen to make it fit correctly. Any advice on what to get? Or any other tips?
T56 fits just fine. No modifications necessary
@Zero2SixtyPerformance yup your correct I have installed and cut the shifter hole since I posted this comment! Actually went in pretty easy. (Now just to try to fit the original console... lol )
What engine mounts did you use, can you provide a link for me?
Engine mounts are factory truck mounts. You can get them at any auto parts store
Hi,I have a 67 Camaro also.
Not sure if I missed it,any cutting of the firewall or trans tunnel for this combo?
Thanks
No cutting
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance Nice,thank you.
Would a stock LS oil pan work or is aftermarket necessary? Also what kind of brake booster is that. Great vid
A stock truck pan would likely fit however it would hang about 4" below the crossmember and would not recommend it. Master is from Right Stuff
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance The GMPP muscle car swap pan fits great. The 6.0 I built and installed in my resto modded 79 Regal also uses Hooker blackhearts..was able to run 1 7/8 in primaries and even with full heat wrap they clear everything great. The pan I mentioned does hang below my crossmember about 3/4 in..but that's my fault as I built my own engine mounts and got the engine sitting way lower than it would have with the holley mounts. To protect it, I flanged up a sheetmetal skid plate...so far I've logged 20 thousand KM in two years with zero issues.
ps, new subscriber here..thanks for the content man.
Hi,I ordered the Holley LS swap kit for my 67 Camaro.My only concern is they only have the poly motor mounts and I’m afraid the vibration will be awful.Do you guys have any experience with the poly mounts?Would you recommend the stock rubber over the poly?
Thank you
We use the poly mounts often. They do not add much vibration. If you are worried about it just do new oem rubber mounts.
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance Thanks for the advice,I think I’ll go with the rubber to be safe
Did you fabricate the cold air intake or did you purchase it:
We did the fabrication
Can you daily a build like this? Or is it too specialized/niche?
You could absolutely daily something like this
Where do you punch through the firewall, best harness location
In the tunnel at the back of the engine. It will put the computer up behind the glove box
Great video. Doing a built up 5.3L swap in a 67 camaro with a T56. Did have have to modify to transmission tunnel to get the T56 to fit?
No cutting necessary. Bolts right in there
I got 69 camaro going ls3 whit th400 Kennybell blower what motor mounts will work???
You can go about it 2 ways. The Holley mounts require you to do some cutting on the transmission crossmember. The Musclerods or BRP do not require you to do any cutting. With that said, we use both at the shop and I dont know that one is really "better" than the other. Just comes down to your abilities and which one is in stock.
What mounts work best for an ls3 + tr6060 swap in a 67 Camaro?
We use the Holley mounts and crossmember the most
How about drive shaft connection… the tr6060 needs a special adapter or a custom driveshaft ?
@bertiingarciia1000：Im having trouble fitting the engine on my 69. Oil pan hits stearing linkage. Any ideas?
What mounts and pan are you using?
I have 67 camaro with a small block 350 If I were to do the exact setup engine and transmission and you would have to buy everything and install everything how much do you think it would cost?
Roughly $8k in parts. That does not include the Vintage Air Conditioning system.
Zero2Sixty Performance so that would include you guys buying the engine the transmission and the correct parts that you guys would need and the labor?
That includes all the parts to install it just like this swap. The engine and transmission would be extra as well as the labor. I would be happy to send you an estimate if it is something you are interested in. Shoot us an email at david@zerotosixtyperformance.com
To do a complete engine swap which would include a new ls3 , new 460le trans, plus labor to pull out the old motor and install the new ls3 and all the parts necessary (minus the cooling system if you already have a decent radiator etc) to make it a connect and drive, would run you about$20- $25k total
What motor mounts and trans mounts will work with a t56 so I don’t have to cut my trans tunnel? I can’t seem to get a strait answer.
Holley mounts. No cutting of the tunnel necessary
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance
Ok. That is what I have. I will give it a try.
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance
It just seems like everyone is having to cut their tunnel. Guys at SST transmissions where I am getting my trans say Holly sometimes don’t work.
How bad was the t56. What did you use for the hydraulics and did it come out in the factory location
McLeod hydro master cylinder. Factory T56 slave. Shifter was very close to the factory spot
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance thank you!!
What is the upper radiator hose that you used?
Upper hose from a 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse AWD fits perfectly on an LS transplant.
Hey I'm looking to do a swap for a 2009 dodge charger
Is it possible to have an LS swapped first gen and have AC in it?
Absolutely
Have you done any 68-72 novas with a t56?
Sure have. You are going to want to use the forward location for the shifter
Hey just saw your video, can you tell me what Cold air and take you are running
We custom fabricated the intake
I have done an LS one swap on my 68 Camaro and I’m using the Holley terminator X, I’m aware of what to do with the single wire for the alternator but not sure what do I do with the blue and white from the original harness that went to the original alternator. Doesn’t that have to connect somewhere to operate the headlights or anything else is operated from those two wires
Do you have a parts list of the items you use? Curious what motor mounts you guys use? I'm doing an LS swap on 68 Camaro. I would like to all the parts on hand before I start getting dirty. Thank you.
We use holley mounts on pretty much everything. I would be happy to put a list together for you
What A/C system does this car have please?
Vintage air
Full length header 1 7/8 recommendation other than hooker? Stock bellhousing location
Get the headers that we're made for your mounts, it will make your life a lot easier. I cannot confirm any other headers fit with no issues.
Going with the HOLLEY/hooker thanks for the reply!
Where are you guys located?
St. Petersburg, fl
Where you located? I have a 67 interested I. Similar setup
St. Petersburg, FL
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance damn I'm in las vegas thats far to ship
How well does the tr6060 fit in the first gen ?
Its tight but it fits fine. You will need a shifter relocation like the one from Hawk Motorsports
Zero2Sixty Performance awesome. I plan to do ls3 turkey pallet motor. I’m hoping I don’t have to cut my trans tunnel 😅
We installed a tr6060 in our first gen. Minor clearancing of the front of the tunnel for it to fit. As you are aware it will have a fixed output vs a slip yoke. The Tr6060 was also longer which caused required modifications of the T56 cross member kit to fit. You will also need to connect the oil cooler lines together (this is pump driven and cannot be plugged). Good luck!
Also we did the tailshaft/housung swap to convert to a slip yoke. Very glad we did as this converted to a standard T56 shifter. Also gave us the option for standard gear driven speedo. These swaps are very involved as it requires a complete tear down of the trans but it was worth the effort.
does a 1969 camaro have the same fit?
Yes it does
do you think a ls7 would fit
Absolutely
Who makes the throthel
cable
Lokar TC-1000LS1U
The 1969 Camaro is so popular that I bought a Firebird. It's what I could afford.
Still a beautiful car!
How much was this build? Not the car, everything that you did
If you were to do another one just like this is would be roughly 20k installed
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance does that include motor and trans?
@Carmichael101 Carmichael101 Yes
@@Zero2SixtyPerformance how long does it take from getting the first gen to having it completed? I’m looking to have an LS3 and 4l60e put into my 68, but I’m from Canada. I’d have to drive it down and stay down there until finished. Any idea on a price for a LS3 cammed and 4l60e swapped in? Round about price is fine.
@Carmichael101 Carmichael101 Shoot me an email, we can go over the details. David@zerotosixtyperformance.com
Parts list and parts number. Please
Shoot me an email and I can get you a list. david@zerotosixtyperformance.com
Uh, uh, uh ,uh yeah
Uh uh you know it
Whammo.
Would prefer to know what is the best to use, period. You are a little all over the place discussing what was used because it came with car. Have to watch several times to decipher what you are saying.
Holley everything
This was painful to get through. Can you possibly work on finishing a single sentence without the "ahhh"?
Uhh... uhh....uhhh...... seriously.
I know. I think this was my first video. Still workin on it.. Thanks for watching
Rcgsat42, really??
@@SD70ACE- I think rcgsat42 is just an LS hater. Fuck him.