Bridgestone Battlax S22 tyre review with technical insight | BikeSocial
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- Fresh new rubber for 2019 from Bridgestone and we got to try it on a range of sports bikes and naked machines at Jerez in Spain. Plus, an interview with the Product Planning Manager, Fabian Francois, who offers all the detail.
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I bought a pair of S22s for my Suzuki GSX-R 1000. I am really pleased with them. Masses of grip, quick-steering, they give me the confidence to ride harder on my favourite roads. Recommended.
Nick Egan BMW XR owner here...what psi are you running and happy with this tire?
You run a different pressure on your tire.
robert powers run 32 front and rear on my r6 on these
Robert sorry for the late reply: 36 psi front and rear. Still very happy with this tyre. I ride mainly twisty roads for fun and am so pleased with the grip levels and confidence these tyres afford.
I run these on my BMW S1000XR and they are unbelievably good ! 3k miles in toured the Dolomites in sun and rain and not a chicken strip in sight ! Best tyre I have ever ridden for front tyre grip and confidence ! Its made this "old man" a hooligan again
jackandthebear what psi works best for you and your bike
They didn’t make you a hooligan, they just reminded you of the hooligan you already was!!!
Familiar looking tyre stack :)
The most precise and kinesthetic tire I've owned!
After 9000 km of Supercorsa SP V3, I've ordered this S22 yesterday. And i'll be riding on track soon. Hopefully i can feel the different.
How they compare on track and in which group??
@@stevenrapa4014 i'm sorry, as a beginner in the slowest group, I didn't feel any different.
@@winner1338 ah ok no worries. Thats still good info as it means you didnt have any harder time keeping the heat in the SCs
It looks like they have steepend the sidewalls a bit on these a bit. On the S21 I was able to rub out the chicken strips quite easily with just normal canyon / street riding, but when I changed to Michelin Power RS I couldn't reach the last 1/2" of tire until I attended a track day on them. These look to be more similar in profile to the Michelins, as in steep sides/ shoulders as compared to the flatter S21's. Probably how they got to the 15% increase in cornering speed as there is simply more tire available at high-speed full-lean. Interesting... I may just try these next
Same, i found the power rs a really aggressive profile
It has a lot to do with how the tire deforms. Simply because you were able to scrape up the entire Bridgestone doesn’t mean the Michelin would give you more grip and corner speed.
They don't talk about the tire profile being steeper which gives it different turning characteristics also they don't say that when the bike is laid over on its side a give you a wider tire patch which means more traction in the turn.
They feel different because of the steeper profile angles would you see more on motogp racing bikes.
It's a great tier and there are many motels for you to try from birthstone.
There vary good tiers.
That second last sentence is wild
Just for clarity this is not a review but a product presentation. I have no problem with that but call it what it is.
I’m on S22’s at the moment and have ridden them on track, they feel pretty good to me but I’m not that fast.
Just ordered a set for my 2020 r3 😎 got a great deal too. Around $210 shipped
We need a honest comparison test of all the major players
Exactly
@@infantlightgaming4475 ok here you go I tried many tires. BMW s1000rr Aprilla rsv4rf Honda1000rr bikes I used , dunlop corsica and bridgestone
All work good , the one thing that i don't talk about this tire profile.
The bridgestone has a steeper profile which gives you more tire patch when it's on edge giving it more traction .
If you've different than all the other tired because i don't have a high profile.
The birthstone will have to get laid over further to go around to turn and hook up.
I like Bridgestone Tires and I run the S21 but I don't put much value on a review of what the manufacturer claims. I prefer a third-party test.
I bought S21 last year for my Yamaha fz1 and wore them down in less than 1000 miles in the cyns .. but I did like the S21s and will install S22 for my Honda 954rr..
Dont be mistaken. This is not a track tyre. If you go on track with these you really should be careful with throttle! But these tyres handle hard braking well.
Ive only used Bridgestone tyres on my bike, 1st set S20 AWESOME, 2nd Set S21 AWESOME ! Im looking forward to the S22’s on my next tyre change :)
Done 32’000 kms - on S22’s only - road and track, my strong recommendation 👍🏁
The s21’s should go WAY down in price now right?
How does they compare to Metzler rr9?
S22's came on my new 2022 MT10...so far, after 800 running in miles and not going over 6 - 7K Rpm, the rear has worn to only 2mm of tread! I can't see how this normal??!
I get almost 3k out of them running them hard.
do they still make the S20?
I currently ride on Michelin PP2 CT’s (ZX14) because I feel they are A Good street tire, but I would like to know how are the S22’s or PDRC3’s better?
Can anyone answer this from experience and not from reading brochures
I've been through two pairs of PP2s on my CB600F and FZ6 and while they're a good tire I would have to say that there are better options out there. I currently have S22s on my GSX-S 750 and they are good but judging by the wear I've seen over the last ~ 1500km I don't think they will last as long as I hoped for. I was very happy last year with the Michelin Pilot Power 5 that I had on my MT 09, the rear lasted just shy of 14k km while the front still had decent life left in it, at least another 6 to 7k km judging by the wear pattern. I'm really eager to wear the S22 down and slap a pair of Power 5 on the GSXS since I really liked how it transformed the front end feel of the MT 09. Imho the worst street tire I had on my bikes was the Power 3 which after around 8k km got bald on the sides with plenty of thread left in the middle, it also developed a nasty ridge where the two different compounds meet, it was especially pronounced on the rear. I do mostly spirited twisty road riding with no track days.
@@hstefan thanks for the feedback. Between the Michelin Power 5 and the S22 which has a more V profile?
@@manskimix I believe the S22 has a more aggressive V profile but sadly I bought the bike used and the tires already had a couple of thousand kms of city commuting on them and were, and still are, very squared off and feel very numb compared to the Power 5s when changing direction. This however is because I'm comparing a squared off set of tires on a different bike, that's why I'm waiting to kill these and change to the Power 5s to have an apple to apple comparison between two tire sets on the same bike with the same suspension setup.
Dave Moss has a nice video on his channel where he tests the most commonly used hypersport tires and I believe the S22 and Power 5 are included in this comparison.
czcams.com/video/vQJFEVDC3s0/video.html
This, or Pirelli diablo rosso 4 corsa for mostly canyon use?
This
Hi.
Thanks for thereview👍.Im considering s22 and diablo rosso corsa 2 . How do you think witch of them will be better choice for mainly dry weather and 4-5 track days a year?
Thanks
It's an interesting and competitive field where the S22 and DRC2 are very evenly matched. I was pleasantly surprised by the wear on track from both and without testing them back-to-back it'd be hard to split them.
Don't forget about the Metzeler M7RR and the Avon 3D Ultra.
Thanks for reply mate👍.I think I'll go for PDRC2 because I think they will be a bit better on a track.Few of my mates ride on m7rr and they are really happy with them but I think pirelli rubber will be a little bit better 😉.
@@Jaded-Wanderer Great shout, plus Michelin Power RS or Dunlop SportSmart Mk3. They're all very good.
The Rosso Corsa is more similar to the Bridgestone RS10, the The regular Rosso 3 is more in line with the S22. You will need to do primarily canyon / track riding on both the Rosso Corsa and RS10 in order to wear them out evenly, otherwise you will go through the center band in 2-3k miles. As suggested by Bennett, I would also look at the Michelin Power RS if your looking in that ultrasport category.
What are the tire pressure for 120 front and 160 rear? Thank you... 🙏
Usually around 32-38 front and 36-42 rear But it depends on the bike and what kind of riding your doing.
S22 vs parelli angel gt ito ,mileage ? anyone ?
S22 or RS10 for dry canyon riding in cooler temps?
S22. Need to keep the 10s much hotter..
with constant improvements, how they just keep bettering the tires? so what will S23's be like??? I'm being a smartass..
More grip, more speed cornering, heat up very quickly, better in wet condition, etc.
I wonder how they would work on my CBR 1000 RR SP2 ? Time to buy some.
They work great on one of my friend's 2019 GSX-R1000R, so they'll probably work great on your bike too!
funny enough i just bought an SP2 myself(#67 reporting!) was thinking the same thing after burning through the supercorsa's in like a week
Hello from Greece!
I Just bought them yesterday for my z1000, it seem a decent tire...
I ll test them soon, now it's cold and snowing outside, haha...
They any good then? Might get them for my z1000
@@zx10rabnud Yeap, they are Indeed amazing...
I drove with them around 2.000km and going..
Very good rubber..!
@@LOKgr do they last well? I do a mixture of commuting and twisties so my current Michelin road 5s have served me well but I’d like to try these.
Do I stick with what I know or save £30 and try the s22???? 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@zx10rabnud The Michelin competitor to the S22 is the Power 5. Unless you are really pushing the limits in the twisties or planning to do an occasional track day, the Road 5 is going to be the better tire and last much longer.
@@PMitchell106 cheers for that matey. thought the S22s were a good all rounder? Pretty sure the new Ninja 1000SX comes with S22 as standard and that’s a sports tourer
what about in rain condition? they are good for wet roads?
Yes
No, not good for cold and wet roads. They are very slippery . You have to ride slow in the corners and even then your machine slips away . Temperature About 5 to 8 degrees Celsius and wet road is not a succes for these tires . Next will be Road 5 from Michelin again.
Damn I keep trying to listen to him but keep getting distracted by the racing in the back ground. My ADD... :/ but still great information and tire.
5:25 How is it possible to increase cornering speed by 15% while laptime improves 1.2% comparing S22 to S21? Is the S22 30% slower on the straight or how is this possible?
Presumably because the amount of a typical track where cornering speed improvements can be taken advantage of account for approximately 8% of the circuit length? Just guessing, John
@@bennettsbikesocial when i am on the track i am 90% of the time in a lean angle above 20 degrees. that must be a weird track for a tire test.
Corners don't account for 90% of any track (unless you're on an oval!), so I'm guessing it's down to the actual sections of corner where corner speed can be improved. Again though, I wasn't there so I'll get Michael to respond...
The cornering speed increase and overall lap time improvement are two different measures; speed and time. So the increase of corner speed could be up from 60mph to 69mph (15%), for example, which in term helps us shave 1.1s off our lap time of 1m30s (1.2%). Equally, when measuring the improvements of the tyre, I'd imagine the corner speed and lap time were measured separately, but I have asked Bridgestone for their input too in case I've interpreted your question incorrectly. Thanks, Michael
Lets invite every Moto-Journalist in the world to Jerez, a famous TRACK to test in the DRY our all new ROAD tires that claims improved WET weather performance. If we fly them to this famous track and give them the best bikes in the World we will most certainly get a valid non bias opinion of the true quality of these tires.
s22 vs diablo 3
Diablo Rosso 3 you mean
@@lennardspit yes
I have rosso 3 they've never let me down. But I want to try the s22 now
Better in the wet....who the hell want to risk their life ride a big bike in a wet road (just an idiot i guess)🤣🤣
I rode 1400 km in 4 days last week
The weather should have been fine
For time of year, but it was wet , I was
Rideing a Kawasaki 14r , Had a Foging
Up Helmet, found it better rideing faster
The Helmet un-foged , you don't plan it
To work out like this , the S22 were
Brilliant , you see mate you have to trust
Your tyres , it makes you a better rider
In the Dry , if you ride a big bore you have
To be a fare rider , not a Idiot as you said
OP needs a prescription for a pair of balls.
red dude: "how much better on the side?"
Bridgestone Dude: "1.2%"
Red dude: "WOW"
:P
so it's better in the wet but not much better in the dry than the predecessor.
meh.
Yes, it's a lot better in the wet, and that by itself is reason enough to update to these S22. And that 1.2% improvement in the dry means you'd be LAPPING the same bike fitted with the S21 after 62 laps on a 1:30 course. Not too shabby.
*Installed and tires balanced perfectly as we all know some MT's do and some dont.💡💡 **allabout.wiki/Bridgestone** These look amazing and perform just the same. Not to loud not to quiet. Love the look, would recommend.*