Window door plug blows off 737 Max 9 aircraft Alaska Airlines flight 1282 Pilot Audio ATC
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- Alaska flight 1282 from Portland Oregon has a panel covering where a door can be as an option on the aircraft was blown off it's 737 max 9 aircraft and asks to return to the airport for an emergency landing.
Interesting ATC Audio from the pilot.
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That pilot handled things superbly! I like her effectively saying to the controllers, "thanks for the ideas but we're coming straight in".
She was shittin her panties. Women have issues dealing with stress.
ATC deeply sucked at this one. Really, really bad.
Very well handled by the crew first time I have heard the crew offer fuel and souls without being asked. Clear on it!
@@jimpritchard4686 I caught that, too. Wouldn't the report normally include passenger + crew? Or am I missing something?
Avaite, navigate, communicate, priority order
Sitting in a Max waiting for take off while watching this… good job on the pilots for being on it and having all info ready.
Good luck 😅
Wear your seat belt
Sorry dude
Fake news
I am shocked that the FAA hasn’t grounded the fleet after this.
My uncle was on that flight! There was a guy that was sitting right behind that exit door that stood up for a few seconds for some reason and then sat down, put his seatbelt on and maybe 20 seconds later the door blew. That guy could have been sucked right out.
Love how this pilot(s) stayed way ahead of the emergency by announcing fuel and souls onboard before being asked. Confirming cleared for approach proactively was nice. Freed up a few seconds needed to aviate.
Shes not in danger...
@@Capeauexplain?
@@justinbecker4772 "just" a de-pressurized cabin. No lives at risk as long as they are under 10k feet.
@@justinbecker4772 The plane was flying perfectly fine/stable.
@@Capeauforcibly depressurized aircraft with gaping holes in the side is not exactly what I’d call “perfectly fine”
Good example as to why one must always wear a seatbelt when seated aboard an aircraft... especially one flying above 10kft
Unless I must visit the lavatory, I never take the seat belt off. No reason to.
Keeping the seat belt on also prevents any Clear Turbulence injuries.
especially on a 737MAX plane.☺
@@jorgej8855Excellent advice! I’ll also add keep the window shades up for Take Off and Landing. Might need to look outside to see if there is fire. 🔥
@@biltztom2685 can happen with every plane....
It's absolutely amazing how calm airline pilots are in emergency situations.
They're not sitting next to the hole.
Calm? There is a distinct difference between when a male pilot and female pilot talks 😆
she refused to dump fuel, it was safer to do it than not ! She was scared @@KainsAddiction
@@quinquiry A plane with a hole in the side handles more differently when lightened vs heavy than an intact plane.
@@quinquirynonsense. Every pilot knows what's a safe load of fuel/passengers for landing.
You have no clue
For those questioning…. she was originally talking through an oxygen mask, which then is removed below 10000 feet. Looks like the pilots did a great job. Does anybody know if this was the overwing door or the inoperable door between the wing and 2L? Glad nobody got hurt! Great job by Alaska and ATC!
Inop door, with a plug ...
Not a door a plug for optional additional doora (not overwing)
Door between the left wing and the tail. The door is inoperable due to seat configuration. If more seats were installed, then this door would be made usable for emergency egress.
Curious if the Oxygen masks in the cabin dropped straight down automatically, or had to be put on manually. That was the problem in a previous fatality because decompression happened so fast that the pilots got light headed and then couldn't have time to put their masks on, so they blacked out.
@@timmellin2815 they automatically drop when the cabin depressurises
It always amazes me the professionalism that's displayed by pilots and ATC controllers in these situations, as well as how intense the tone shift is very subtly in their voices as the ATC controllers shift from management mode to "This pilot makes all the decisions right now, tell us what you want or need".
As usual a great example of pilots under duress. They just don't panic. They react as trained
What are you talking about? She was panicked pretty bad in the beginning.
@@danwonders9403 Not sure if it was panic, but I'm guessing she was experiencing a hell of an adrenaline spike.
@@danwonders9403was it panic or was it the fact that it's difficult to talk over an oxygen mask when your cabin door just blew off?
This is why you always keep your seatbelt on even if you're just at cruising altitude. Anything can happen at any time.
The pilot did a good job of keeping her shit together and getting the job done. Way to go!
Wow ! How cool and composed ATC and crew were throughout..!
What were they supposed to do jump out? Their ass is landing with that plane too
Just made me feel safer with the pilots, cool, training, and the control tower. Excellent job 👏🏿 👍🏿
The pilot is so bloody calm. Wow great job by her, the crew and passengers❤❤❤❤
What are you talking about?
@@danwonders9403 the piolet talking to air traffic control. That was the pilot right🤔
THANK GOD THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU . SHE WAS CRAPPIN HER PANTS . YOU COULD HEAR IT IN HER VOICE. SHE COULD EVEN TELL ATC WHY IMAGINE IF IT HAD BEEN SOMETHING A LOT MORE SERIOUS LIKE A FIRE ONBOARD OR A LOST ENGINE. @@danwonders9403
@@AngieLea first officer. People are saying she sounded scared/nervous. I thought she was great considering the circumstances.
@@jq2147yeah she was obviously a bit nervous at first. It's probably the first time this has ever happened to her. But she did a good job maintaining control regardless.
The Captain and the Crew of Alaska 1282 did a fantastic professional performance to take on the inflight emergency in a moment notice and provide a safety approach back to Portland airport and praise God no passenger were injured or sucked out of the Cabin .
@bernardanderson3758 Totally agree with your comments.
calm down. no big issue in the cockpit. why do americans always need a hero?
Small physics correction. Nobody is sucked out of a cabin ever. They get blown out. Air molecules push not pull and the more air molecules in the cabin push things out to the less dense air outside as pressures equalize.
No she did not. She was affective emotional despite she has been trained meticulously to deal with such situation for years and she simply failed. Plane was intact, there were no complications apart of emergency doors fallen off. And the other lady at the tower, she also amused. She absolutely had no clue what is going on the board ...
@@elamharnish1126 It's quite possible at the time of the declaration the pilot did not know what had happened other than rapid depressurisation and the masks had dropped. She had no way of knowing if the plane was 'intact'. Also that door departed dangerously close to the tail elevators it could have been much worse.
I blame this on the legacy of Jack Welch, former head of General Electric, a company now a shadow of its former self. Why? Because Jim McNerney, a former underling and devotee of Welch's cut-to-the-bone management style became head of Boeing and brought Welch's extreme emphasis on profitability to the Boeing mindset. In other words, McNerney took the power away from the engineering guys and gave it to the MBA's. Big mistake. And this is what happens.
This approach is what ruins all businesses. Once the bean counters have control EVERYTHING goes to shit.
Neutron Jack
I used to work at Boeing in Seattle in the '80s. It was a great company back then. Smartest and most well-rounded people I ever worked with. It's a shame what's happened to it.
@@lieutenantdangle3128 it’s what’s happening at Amazon these days. And I just had a very disappointing experience from Costco trying to buy an appliance. Their management replaced its venerable founder and it already shows in drastically reduced choices and services and now amateurishly bad experiences delivering appliances.
A friend was at Boeing as an electronics troubleshooter for 22 years. There was a round of semi-voluntary early retirements. Two years later, Boeing wanted him to come back. Too much experience had left the company at the same time. Most of the old timers said “Hell, No!”
This is why you ALWAYS keep you seat belt on !!
true, because negative g is always possible ,even during a normal flight !
Am very much impressed by the pilot. She stayed very calm.
Professional pilots! Good job Alaska air!
Wow that was one of the weirdest ATC emergency situations I've ever heard. In my opinion ATC asked too many questions and didn't give them enough time to just work the problem. Those ladies sounded a little stressed...lol. Good work though.
Exactly!
Kudos to the level headed pilot
@phillipbanes5484 she was almost freaking out
@@phillipbanes5484 "nothing"?!
@@phillipbanes5484 Exactly she sounded completely stressed. Noticed she called out the fuel wrong as well, 18,900 lbs should have been called as 1-8-9-0-0 lbs of fuel on board with 1-7-7 passengers and crew onboard. There is a reason you communicate that way over the radio, so nothing is lost in translation. The fact she didn't do this was because she was clearly stressed. Probably just a civilian who got her pilots license, she not ex-military.
@@phillipbanes5484 Perhaps, compared to far worse emergencies. But people can, and do, get sucked out of such holes, so not so minor for those immediately near the breach.
@@phillipbanes5484A rapid depressurization is one of the most deadly events that can happen to an aircraft, especially if the aircraft is damaged in any way.
Loosing part of the fuselage would qualify for that.
Noone mentions what might have happened outside. The panel / door whatever might well have hit the tail plane and caused all manner of issues, so they got lucky on that one too.
they were doing like 440kts groundspeed when it depressurized, imagine the plug hitting the horizontal stab on the way out...good lord. this went about as well as it could've
This right here.
Thank God the FAA grounded these. Boeing QC needs new leadership.
The 737 Max' third serious problem. How the hell can a door spontaneously blow out?
Tube flex for the extended length body.
It was an entire panel with a window that blew out, and Boeing's quality control, maintenance and 3 month old airworthiness certifications apparently STILL suck.🤔
@@CannonFodder873no window. It was a plug that is in place for a future boarding door if airlines want it.
FAA admins are as intelligent as their bosses.
American shoddy work bro it hurts to say this. American craftsmanship is in decline and this is no surprise this is happening all over the country people don't give a damn no more unless it's their family on the plane. But I must say this the 737 is a Beast yo I love flying on it I love going in hot to land ,if "it ain't a Boeing I ain't going" 😁
The Captain and crew of AK 1282 are to be commended. So calm.
Amazing how professional and calm ATC were when communicating with the pilot... Let's not panic.. Allowing everyone to make the correct decisions, saving lives potentially..
Yes indeed
How many times did the crew tell approach they had an emergency??
The two ATC employees communicating with the pilot need to be commended, publicly, for their discipline. They carried out their training, to the letter. ❤
@jh9855
She did a great job. I cant imagine the stress a pilot would be under knowing your plane just explosively decompressed and has a huge hole in the fuselage. Especially when the plane was depressurizing, you probably cant even hear yourself over the noise.
Why would you point out such a thing? Or are you one of those male armchair pilots that has to nitpick everything a female pilot does during an emergency?
@@jh9855exactly. Pilot mentioned twice fuel qty and souls on board twice!
minor miracle that no-one was sucked out of there seatbelts for the win
Can you imagine, being in the seat next to the cabin failure, fuc uup by Boeing manufacturer. Plane only a few months old OMG... I AM DEAD 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
No one was seated next to the door.
And the bolts holding the seats to the artificial floor on the aircraft.. They all worked together, with the exception that you are only supposed to blow the bloody fake doors off! At only 16k feet, and Boeing manufacturering failed again.? Too many times with the Max versions.. Boeing please convince me otherwise!
The couple that were assigned those seats missed the flight. Absolutely unbelievable.
@@xendiac7725 By the grace of God
This is so scary! Apparently there was a child in the seat across from where the panel blew out. The child’s shirt was sucked off of his body and his mother was holding on to him. This info was from a news interview with a fellow passenger.
This is reason to keep seatbelt on….
I thought children weren't allowed to sit on the emergency exit row?
@@Ginge1164Apparently they weren’t in an emergency exit row. The panel that came off is used by some other 737 Max operators as an emergency exit but this aircraft was not set up with it as an exit.
The pilot handled it well
Talk about losing the shirt
Great job to the Captain and ATC. Great example why to wear a seat belt all the time.
Excellent job by the pilot flying...never ever take your seat belts off at any time.
Even when going to the bathroom?
The best quality control would be to have all the employees who worked on these airplanes fly in them after certification. That way it's very unlikely any work will be botched.
It's not uncommon for airport employees to fly off on weekends.
WAKE UP DUDE, REALLY ? YOU CAN'T SEE THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT ? NO "BOTCHED" WORK. THAT OPENING IS WHERE AN EMERGENCY EXIT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE PERIOD. IT WAS COVERED UP SO EXTRA SEATS COULD BE PUT THERE AND THE AIRLINE THAT BOUGHT THEM COULD MAKE MORE MONEY. EMERGENCY EXITS AREN'T OPTIONAL. BOEING KNOW THIS BUT THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY. THE NTSB WILL QUICKLY COVER THIS UP BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME THEY WORK FOR BOEING. WHAT IF THERE WAS A FIRE LIKE WITH THE RECENT JAPANESE PLANE. EVERYBODY PLEASE FILE TO THE FOWARD EXIT AT THE FRONT OF THE PLANE AND DON'T HURRY ?
Really love that the pilot proactively stated souls and fuel weight; she knew these questions were incoming. Very very impressed with her decisions.
Air crew: A+
ATC: Needs improvement.
Kudos to the pilots and the air traffic controllers for bringing this plane in safely.
Now go and check the assembly line in Renton for an unaccounted pack of door bolts.
complete and total professionalism. so well handled.
Kudos to the crew and ground control.
Glad everyone onboard is safe. I'd hate to be where that panel lands 😮
TSB will be searching for missing panel.
Major props to the pilot for her professionalism and landing the plane safely. Thank goodness there were no injuries and nobody was killed. I wish it was more info about what happened. Every story seems to be very short on this. I guess there’s not a lot of information yet, but I was wondering if there was anybody actually sitting in that seat. Absolutely terrifying.
A young boy was. His mother had to pull him back into the cabin. His shirt was ripped off him & he lost his I-Fone. This was recovered at the side of a road, still working, in airplane mode. The phone was handed in to Alaska Air. It was just good luck that the incident occurred at a low height & that seat belts were still being used. Quality control has obviously gone out the window, as has Boeing's reputation.
Both Pilots DID PHENOMENAL !!! As well as ATC and other ground personnel !!
It was pitch black and possibly IFR conditions when this occurred. Nice work by the flight & cabin crew.
Pilot is on it. ATC is a step behind this time.
Exactly!
Pilot: we’re declaring an emergency
ATC: but is it really an emergency?
He might think it was just gradual depressurization problem with valve or something, usually pilots would declared pan-pan and not emergency.
But yea, he shouldn't asked that, the voice from oxygen mask indicated it was clearly rapid depressurization,
Thank you for upload
Absolutely amazing and professional, how the pilot... were calmed in the situation. Thank God, no life lost
Way to go Pilot!!!!!! ❤
In an emergency you tell ATC what you are going to do. They need to clear your path and an immediate altitude change is the pilots discretion in an emergency.
Yea and all the rest aircraft traffic around you at that moment magically disappear, lol? ATC will give you priority but you still have to follow the instructions (if able). They were able.
I don't understand why this wasn't declared as a PAN which is the standard call for a problem requiring priority handling. It would have alerted all the services and other aircraft in the area of the situation.
Pilot emergency rules are:
1) The pilot in command is the final authority and responsible for the operation of the aircraft. 2) The pilot in command may deviate from any rule to meet an emergency. 14 CFR § 91.3@@komrad1983
@@125bratIn the US declaring an emergency causes ATC to provide priority handling and clear the airspace for the emergency aircraft.
Because life-threating situations are "Mayday". FA probably reported a panel and chunk missing from the plane to cockpit, they've already had rapid decompress and on top they don't know what happened yet, do they have more damage, will the plane be coming apart more? Does the fin have any damage etc. You access the problem and define risk. Pretty much that's why you have all of this training and ATPL with CRM and risk accessment.@@125brat
Little to much redundant questions from ATC, but the pilot handles it well.
Exactly!
Well done to the pilots and flight crew aboard this flight!
There was a 737 way back in the 70,s that lost a huge roof section and one stewardess was sucked out but amazingly the pilots landed despite the fusulage was flexing making it a miracle that no body else died and the aircraft didnt come apart.I think it was a flight from Alloha?
Yes, a first gen 737, they were incredibly lucky !!! czcams.com/video/QzfQXBLxSdo/video.html
ATC were really off on this. Granted, they weren't aware of the severity necessarily, but any depressurization is clearly really bad. Delay vectors to burn fuel or holding patterns is kinda ridiculous. They clearly needed to get that craft on the ground asap. ATC should have been trying to maneuver all other aircraft in the area vs trying to delay the emergency.
I don't know much about aviation, but I could definitely sense the pilot's frustration building
Exactly! Hope she had some words with that guy!
Getting low enough to avoid hypoxia without supplemental oxygen needed to happen ASAP. Getting all the way to the ground was significantly less urgent. The 737 MAX 9 has a MTOW about 14 tonnes higher than the MLW and no fuel dump valve, so was possible that the plane was overweight for landing. Is it safer to land immediately or stay up there for a while to burn off fuel? ATC didn't know, so they asked. Flight 1282 said that they didn't need to burn off fuel, so ATC asked if they were ready to land immediately. Flight 1282 said that they wanted about ten minutes to prepare, so ATC asked how they wanted to handle that delay. That all seems reasonable to me.
Boeing: Our planes are top tier quality that it can fly without doors, even wingless.
excellent ATC reporting
Amazing professional Pilot . very good job.😍❤🩹💯
News report said this plane was only 2 months old; so it seems like Boeing needs to re-validate their quality assurance procedures.
2 months is long enough for it to be Alaska Airlines fuck up
Recently the same type of plane had bolt issues near rudder , apparently this type of plane has quality issues
Speculation! Being in aviation for decades, I have learned to wait for the cause before speculating, which is very hard for me.
I am about a third right..., the ones I guess wrong, many times is because on that first few days, the press provides wrong info or missing info.
@@phillipbanes5484 Tell that to the 346 families that have lost loved ones flying in a Boeing Max.
found the boeing shill lol@@phillipbanes5484
Great job by the pilot and ATC.
Top marks for dealing calmly with the situation!
Don‘t like to be to harsh, but ATC was ok, but not an A+ on point.
Just my 2c.
Exceptional well done by pilots.
Pilot A+, ATC C minus
ATC was not paying attention. The pilot had to repeat fuel and SOBs. That's bad enough under normal circumstances. It's outrageous in this instance.
I was screaming at the TV. Goodness. Say again?
@@chrischarla424 ? ? ? WHY ?
Agreed!
Wow these new max jets, there really starting to worry me, trying to modernise a 1960s airframe is crazy!!! Mcas, rudder issues, now they aint even bolted together correctly!!!
Gotta maximize profits for investors and skimp on everything else!
One door does.not make.a.troubled.fleet. Since being reinstated, the plane has performed in an outstanding fashion. We have no idea what caused this; any possibility it was a maintenance issue? Don't want to fly it, your choice but lets.stop.with the dramatics.
@mikedendo1149 doubt it was a maintenance issue, the aircraft in question was in service for just 10 weeks. That's definitely a Boeing issue!
@@mikedendo1149This plane was configured without the emergency exit in that row, I assume to get more seats on the plane. So in place of a door, there was just a panel and a window. Evidently the adaptation was not done correctly in this instance. That’s very problematic.
but the MAX has had other issues... two downed planes due to this redesign.. It has been a hot mess. Boeng isn't learning from its mistaks it seems@@mikedendo1149
Female pilot was so professional and calm. I'm very impressed with the reaction of flight and ground crew. Opening air spaces in blocks, asking if they want to go lower in altitude, everything was so slick and professional. This is rare, they all deserve a raise that day!
She wasn’t flying the plane she was working the radio. The captain in the left seat was flying at that time.
@@Starfish2145 thank you, but she is a pilot technically? I don't know for sure. I'm asking. They both have pilots licenses and capable of flying the aircraft?
@@hkr321hkr Yes lol. That's the whole point of having 2 pilots. But generally they decide ahead of time who is going to fly the plane and who will talk to ATC, but should the one flying the plane be unable to, the other pilot will take over.
great job
Panel was probably installed by one of Boeing's financial officers
'This type of bolt is 3 cents cheaper, so if we install 24 bolts in the panel that will save 3x24=72 cents!'
This is probably the closest to the truth scenario.
Boeing has outsourced 90 % of finance to India so in is anybody’s guess as to financial traceability.
To India?
@@trainman1209 During 2023 Boeing financial transformation was wholly focused on moving as many financial jobs to India! It has been an absolute disaster. They have zero clue what they are doing..
There are 1376 Boeing 737 Max's flying and 1375 of them don't have fuselage plugs falling off. This is a quality control issue on an aircraft made in America because of bean counting non-engineer management and has nothing to do with financial jobs moving to India. Stop trying to pass the blame.
Cool, Calm and Collected.
and way too talkative
given her situation, yes she was.@@phillipbanes5484
Yea try doing coms through a full face oxygen crew mask bud@@phillipbanes5484
@@phillipbanes5484 did she ditch the bird? No. This was a normal human survival instinct, her training kicked in.
Beautiful!
Cool calm and collected by all. = By the book.= Well done!
Bravo to the pilot ATC and all crew for landing safely and all 177 souls aboard safe on tarmac at PDX 🙏🏻
How far down Boeing has fallen...
She even said the fuel and passengers on board and he still asked!!
Exactly!
Everyone involved handled this situation perfectly- pilots and ATC. Great job!
No, ATC was 💩
@@HiDesert004 How so?
Props (jets 😉) to this pilot for the way she handled all the communication while being super busy I'm sure. Sully the 2nd lol. She needs a raise and scr_w Boeing for once again putting our lives in Jeopardy. From now on, 'If it's Boeing, I' m not going "💀
Aircraft are like cars,they keep making them more complicated than needed.
I love how even tho its an emergency they both said thank you and have a good night before changing frequency
Text Book from Aircraft and ATC. Well done!
Textbook from ATC would not be to ask someone who has decalred an emergency if they are declaring an emergency. ATC gets a C- for not listening and asking distracting questions. Pilot gets an A+.
@@chrischarla424 It was a different controller that asked again maybe they didn't get the information
@@chrischarla424The pilot should have declared it as a PAN as soon as the problem was identified. That is standard aviation procedure for a serious problem and sets-off all the necessary processes by other aircraft listening and those on the ground to handle the problem. It also prepares everyone for the possibility of an upgrade to a MAYDAY if the situation deteriorates.
This is why I want humans in the cockpit and not AI. Emergencies tend to focus the human mind. Great job to the Pilots!
There are 3 reactions to an emergency: Fight, Flight, or Freeze. Until you are in an emergency, it's impossible to know which reaction you'll have. And you can't guaranty, even through training, to not freeze. An AI will never freeze, and will always perform the best known action given it's understanding of the situation. So while AI isn't there yet, it will eventually.
@@CouchPotatorLet's see. I've been an airline pilot for nearly 30 years. At some point I've landed off airport due to engine failure, been on fire, struck by lightning at least 3 times that I witnessed, and had 8 engine failures. I know how I will react to an emergency. Mostly with annoyance at having to fill out paperwork.
Conversely, I've never driven under a truck or ran over a pedestrian. There are quick reflexes need occasionaly to save the day in an airliner. Things you don't hear about. There are also decisions to be made that can only be accomplished by two experienced airman. Keep your AI far away from me, thanks.
I've been on a plane that depressurized. It was at the time over mountains so it took some time to get lower.
The mask instructions are poor. People expect the bag to inflate. It does not. Further there is no sensation that oxygen is being delivered. So, folks start panicking. You can monitor your fingernails..... if you're low on oxygen, they'll be bluish.
The Stewards/Stewardesses can't help because they don't have portable O2 to allow them to move around.
There is a test procedure written on the bag but I can't recommend taking the mask off to study the instructions.
You might best spend your time trying to remain calm (you consume less O2), writing a last note to your loved ones, etc. The onboard O2 system is very limited.
Maybe it depends on the airline. My (former) airline's safety instructions specified that the masks do not inflate. Also, my airline had portable bottles behind the attendant seats. The bottle storage was part of the seat assembly.
The one time a PM has souls and fuel before being asked, ATC doesn't get it.
Great job well done.
What truly matters in a pilot isn't how good they are when things go smoothly,but how good they are when things go wrong.
Kudos to this pilot and flight crew.
Well done that female pilot, very clear and precise, methinks the 737 Max aircraft are jinxed, always something happening. Boeing should just call it quits with that aircraft.
@@phillipbanes5484"she was panicking" tbh to me it didn't sound like there was panic, it sounded like trying to use the radio in the crew oxygen mask
@@phillipbanes5484 Do you hate all women or just the ones who fly planes?
@@phillipbanes5484 Do you hate all women or just the ones who fly planes?
@@phillipbanes5484 Didn't sound anything close to panicking to me.
Only if it was a DEI hire. @@juhapehkonen7347
Professionals. All of them. Well done.
god bless their constant training and coolness for the situation
How stupid was the guy traffic controller? What part of emergency and depressurization did he not understand?
A degree of truth, but don't forget WE know we are going to hear roughly what we know WILL be said, ATC is activating accident prevention for aircraft in difficulty and accident avoidance regarding all other air-traffic - getting confirmation; questioning what one thinks one has definitely heard is possibly part of protocol?
Exactly!
Wow! Very professional crew. What happens if this door blows off over Colorado where the mountains are 12K - 14K feet? Oxygen in the passenger area is not pressurized.
Odds are that there’s a divert airport somewhere reasonably close, you’d head for the divert airport closest obviously. They have a good 10 min (up to 15) on the passenger oxygen, and pilots have hours for most aircraft.
You can still breathe at 12k+ feet, it’s just difficult for many. I’d assume flight attendants would be standing by with their extra crew portable oxygen tanks if a passenger emergency arose.
As I recall, many routes over the highest parts of the mountains take this into account. Plus if you’re at 34,000’ when it happens, most of the time you’ll be able to clear the mountains one direction or another simply during your emergency descent.
Do you want me to tell U2 or does someone else want to take a crack at it.
It's an even bigger problem in some areas of the world such as the Himalayas or Andes. That's why they tend to have a divert airport as close as they can just in case they encounter pressurization problems.
we climb the 14ers and are able to summit normally without o2, so 14,500 is certainly doable.
Then u suck o2 from the mask. That is y its there .. if it not working geuss your going to not feel the crash u be unconscious.
This pilot is one awesome woman.
Great job, FO!
The 737 max at it again ...
Excellent professionalism.
Splendid job.
Amazing coolness under pressure
It will take detailed investigation to discover the immediate cause of this fuselage failure. However, at root-cause level, it is difficult to dissociate it from the years of technical mismanagement by Boeing on the Max aircraft, as evidenced by 2 fatal crashes and resulting scandal with the FAA, followed by extensive modifications, SOP/flight-training corrections, software/hardware updates, revelations on Boeing QA/QC management downgrades, and legal sanctions. Passengers should have no confidence in this aircraft while this type of incident can happen. They need to be cleaner-than-clean and FULLY transparent to restore public confidence.
I think we can bank on initial stages will center on the recertification of the aircraft, as it was just recertified. But, it is an odd failure, as that's an optional door that wasn't installed, so should've been plugged.
Still, great job by the pilots and crew in keeping the passengers safe!
amazing job. i cried
The years and places I've flown, I have to say Seattle Center and Tower and KPDX area is one of the relaxed and nicest and helpful group in the industry.
The crew is more in control and relatively less stressed out than me after realising i burnt my meal while leaving it for a few minutes on the stove.. to attend a phone call.
Emergency door departed the aircraft during flight, could be a component failure, latch issue or other related problem. Alaska and Boeing will figure it out and put measures in place to prevent reoccurrence
Right now both Alaska and Boeing have activated their inhouse counsel, all leave is cancelled, O/T authorized, and we are working the weekend.
Have a nice day.
obviously.
Alaska maybe, Boeing is happy to stay silent about the other fifty issues about this plane people haven’t found out about yet.
Are you serious that there is a latch required? I thought all pressurized cabin doors were wedge designs that only open into the pressure vessel and will therefore never open while there is a pressure differential.
It wasnt a door. Its a bolted in door plug.
@@cameratool
Plane was NEW in November
Oh those 737 Max’s, always a surprise with them…
Forgive me for one more post. I felt it important to add that my husband was a machinist in Everett Washington. Among many horror stories this one sticks with me. These airplanes are engineered with exacting tolerances. They have specifically designed fasteners for all parts. These large sheets of, say a window panel, are pre-made, molded and shaped for their fit, strength and predrilled holes for those specific fasteners. The machinist filled his "belt" with the appropriate fasteners per his job spec. the tools used are specific. He told me that when some guys did ran out of "Specific" fasteners instead of crawling out of or down from some pretty involved area to go to the tool crib to get more they simply use whatever OTHER FASTENER in their belt that they still have.. I figure you can figure what that means.
That pilot was calm as fuck. Got the job done like it was nothing.
There's no advantage to getting flustered, so good pilots simply don't do it.
Great example of why to fly on an Airbus!
Because that is an option, available to any airline passenger?
@@codymoe4986 actually it's not that hard.. just check the airlines fleet and what the plane is on the route you want...
Lets just all be grateful this MAX didnt fly itself into the ground.
How does a door blow off a new aircraft?
not a door a door plug installed by Alaska not Boeing as airlines can choose to keep a extra door or replace it with a door plug after getting the plane
@@topgun1457What’s interesting is I figure most plugs/doors would install from the inside & never open outward. Would be a more serious structural flaw if that were the case.
@@topgun1457I'm sure Boeing has to sign off on it...
@@topgun1457 Have you worked in aircraft manufacturing before because my experience tells me this configuration would be done by Boeing to the customer's (Alaskan's) desired configuration. I can imagine however that periodic inspection may be required behind this interior panel where this door plug is located. Why would Alaskan accept a new airplane with an emergency access door they won't use and then buy additional structural parts and modifications after acceptance?
@@tomtom8889The emergency exits on the 737s all open outwards, with only the entry doors being plug style as far as I’m aware.