Why The Oakland A’s Are Moving to Las Vegas
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- The Oakland A’s have announced their intention to move to Las Vegas. This episode of The Joe Pomp Show breaks down everything you need to know, including the backdoor business deal that destroyed the team and the $1.5 billion financials behind their new stadium.
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The fact that we in Vegas do not have enough money for schools but we happen to have 500 million for a stadium... makes me sick.
The state legislature didn't cut the school budget this year, in fact it increased... Nor is the state spending taxes for this stadium, only selling bonds... On the other hand the teachers do WANT more money, all government bureaucrats do... Of course the teachers could go on strike, but alas, their current contract hasn't expired...
I really don’t understand how you haven’t blown up in popularity your videos are well spoken and informative
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Great point.
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Because his brother was a crypto grifter who scammed his audience for financial gain. He should lose his last name.
@@ziprun2005but did this hit commit the crime? No. Stop that cancel culture shit.
I grew up in Oakland, I can't blame any of these teams for wanting to leave Oakland is a dump if I owned the A's I would do the same thing with a higher payroll.
What about Alameda county as a whole? I know once you add the entire county, the population is much bigger than just the city of Oakland. In fact, which is better, Alameda County, or Santa Clara County?
@@brandoncameron2686 OK? And what's the crime rate or the poverty rate or how many homeless are there and how many violent robberies do they commit?
@@brandoncameron2686 Alameda County is a dump
I would def move too but i wouldnt penny pinch and purposely make my team garbage. Thats just despicable.
if i'm from vegas, i don't want a team that's owned by john fisher. I would want an expansion team with a different owner. what's the point of having the a's move here if fisher is still not going to put together a competitive roster
I believe Fisher will sell the team as soon as the team has a new stadium increasing the value of the team significantly... Someone else will own the team soon, count on it. I recall when Bob Short moved the Washington Senators to Dallas/Fort Worth. Short sold the team soon thereafter even though Arlington Stadium was by no means a MLB stadium. Arlington Stadium was a minor league ballpark that doubled its seating capacity by adding 18 thousand outfield bleacher seats. Wash, rinse, repeat! Including Short during the past 50 years the Rangers have gone through SIX different ownerships. Probably why the Rangers haven't won a lot of pennants...
Yea hes a penny pincher. Even though he inherited all his billions of dollars from his good ol parents. I wonder why hes a penny pincher 🤔
I’m born and raised in Vegas and can confirm that no one here wants the A’s.
@@Membarock kio
They don't care about winning. They are going to have the most expensive in the MLB beers will be 17 bucks each and they still need money from the local tax payers.
Sounds like renovation flip. They are going to build it up in Vegas and flip it for a huge profit.
HGTV stadium edition??
@@adanalyst6925 You'd be surprised how often that happens
Remember with the raiders, their percentage of ticket sales at 97% is almost last in the league in attendance
Selective stats don’t tell the whole story. Raiders gate receipts in $ are tops in the league.
@@Summitclym You're right, they overcharge on tickets, it's almost a status symbol to afford good tickets at their games, if their performance starts to decline further, I wouldn't be surprised if their number starts to fall maybe even around the 90% mark
Raiders were 32th in Valuation in Oakland. Now they are number 9th at $5.1 billion.
They were number 1 in ticket revenue just do a research about financial numbers.
@@Summitclym can't beat the Giants, with their personal seat licenses, LOL
I dont understand how you people dont account for the stadium being new and that’s what draws…. Like you know that wears off? The product on field is what keeps fans coming…. Gimmicks always fall short.
It’s like the niners bragging about making more than any other team in ticket sales - yet the Dallas cowboys sell more tickets….
That tells you 2 things - 1 cowboys are more popular / 2 they provide a better customer experience by charging less.
Money doesn’t tell the full story and If you pull the curtains back - those charging more are just ripping off their fan base…..
It’s plain to see
Oakland Coliseum is a dump. Surrounding area is a dump filled with crime, drive-by parking lot shootings, homeless encampments filled with raw sewage etc. Gave up on the A's years ago - sad. The thought of rooting for the Giants kills me.
Heartbroken 💔
Real Estate 101.... The city of Oakland IS the landlord, not the Oakland A's. The city of Oakland IS responsible for the sad state of the Oakland Coliseum, not the Oakland A's. When your lease is about to expire, if your landlord desires you sign a new lease, the landlord is most likely willing to make improvements, such as new paint, carpet, kitchen appliances, and even a new toilet. Without any doubt whatsoever the city of Oakland IS a BAD landlord.
It goes to the letter of the contract.
Most commercial real estate leases are triple net , where the lessee assumes property insurance , taxes , and improvements.
The landlord or lessor, becomes responsible to the building’s structural integrity. Which usually is roof and walls , and nothing else.
So plumbing , electrical , turf , facilities become the domain of the A’s.
Once again , letter of the contract needs to be seen.
But both the A’s and Oakland each own half of the that site. So wouldn’t that mean it’s both of their responsibilities? I mean the A’s have upgraded some sections of the stadium and some concessions stands.
The City of Oakland was willing to do anything to keep the A's in Oakland tho. They tried to work with the A's ownership even through government disputes and port lawsuits but at the end of the day, they were lied to and used as leverage by the A's ownership. The A's owner is a BAD owner who cares not about the fans but about money.
@@gamer_athletics regardless whose name is in the title of deed , the ball club takes tenancy. Landlord is the Alameda County. The A’s are the tenant. The landlord provides for building integrity ( roof , the concrete under the seats , walls ). Restrooms , vending areas , concourse , playing field , offices , clubhouses , training facilities , plumbing , HVAC , electrical is all in the ball club. That is a default lease contract , unless dictated otherwise.
I’d love to have a business where the government subsidizes my building by taking out a loan and allows me to keep all the profits generated….while allowing taxpayers to pay the loan back. Unbelievable. Billionaire tears can move mountains obviously 😢
News flash. There is more to life than sports. God Bless Oakland. May the city thrive on. Howard Cosell said it best.
"In that time, I came to realize, however reluctantly, that there was an inexorable force working against revelations of truth about sports in America. That force exists in the form of an unholy alliance between the three television networks and the sports print medium. It is the fundamental purpose of both, for their own reasons, to exalt sports, to regale the games, the fights, the races, whatever, to the point where these contests are indoctrinated into the public mind as virtual religious rituals."
Yep, a MLB team is PRECIOUS... Watching baseball at the ballpark when the team is in town and going fishing at my favorite fishing hole when they are out of town during the summer... Nothing better...
Thanks Joe
That answers lots of my questions 🙌🙌
They should tour with the Savanah Bananas while waiting to open in Vegas..
Mlb AND A's are smart, they WANTED to trade every player an get AAA players to have nobody come to stadium SO All the owners an MLB could say Oakland ain't baseball city so teams could vote for them to leave, NOW that's smart RICH people.. 😢
You seem to ignore that the A's have spent 5 years and $100M to try to build on Howard Terminal. Why would the team do that just to move to another city? Only if they felt it was too risky to continue. They also funded fighting the various lawsuits. Also --- what is "Grant money". Its PUBLIC TAX MONEY from the state, city or Feds. And they needed an estimated $600M and couldn't get it enough of it, even from a friendly State and Federal government.
They were off $80-90 million to complete the project as well
@@gamer_athletics That was only on the affordable housing / community benefits package. They were still about $300 m from "infrastructure" needs to make the place work
The city could have sold bonds, but chose not to... They chose to stretch out a tin cup for grants instead...
@@ronclark9724 Not one penny from that tin cup can be used to help build the stadium. Its what needs to be spent just to start to build one.
Fisher is the worst thing to happen to baseball. I’m still hoping a miracle saves the A’s in Oakland, it’s where they belong.
Fisher is awful, yes. But Oakland officials are full of asshats.
Also, the A's belonged in Philadelphia... belonged in Kansas City... ☕🗿
They are not moving to Las Vegas unless they stadium deal is a done deal, it's not a sure thing when it comes to politics
If they do move, nothing is certain yet, I'm hoping the stadium they build looks similar to Es Con Field in Japan
Yes that 12 billion Howard terminal project was a fraud I don't think any fan really thought that would happen,there's nothing wrong with coliseum site you have Bart tear down old stadium and build around stadium, restaurants hotel shopping housing but sports teams want out of Oakland now the coliseum has renovated a few times
That’s the problem. Although you and many people think they should’ve done that. MLB didn’t want that. It’s not a good site, if you need a example why? Look at Giants, Padres, Pirates, and Rangers along with others. And then look at the Coliseum site. They didn’t and weren’t going to build anything on that site. And The Howard Terminal site is and was the best solution for both parties
Believe it or not, but they weren’t that far from agreeing to building Howard Terminal by the way.
@@gamer_athletics But why has it taken so long to come to a agreement? If the city of Oakland desired the A's sign a new lease, the city as the landlord should offer to make any improvements. Yet, the city had the attitude you need us more than we need you. No wonder ALL of Oakland's major league teams have LEFT...
@@gamer_athletics nope never going to happen been hearing A"s stadium talk for 25 years why do this wild 12 billion dollar project instead just build one stadium project in Vegas also As fans weren't going to pony up PSL and suites money like the raiders they will get 3 times the amount in Vegas
@@ronclark9724 the A’s asked them for $350 million for offsite infrastructure and Oakland got $375 million and guess what Covid happened delays happened. Inflation happened. A’s asked for more and ultimately they were stuck on $80-$90 million to complete the project and they were planned last week before this happened to to come together and finish the project. And look what happened now.
Very good Video!
Thank you!
Vegas Athletics baby!!! It would've took other 10 years to try to do something in Oakland. Lets thank the Mayor, no more pro sports in Oakland.
Hopefully Vegas can get Fisher to put some money into the A's.
Once that ballpark is built, I'm 90% certain Fisher selling the A's cos that's $2.5 billion to his retirement aide
Lmao ask the San Jose Earthquake and see how they’re doing with money being spent on the team after they got a new Stadium lol
They wont. Hes a jew. Hes basically been penny pinchin his way to vegas. His parents were billionaires for crying out loud. Hes just a brat.
@@Kk_1100 You got that right.
Fisher putting money into something? Keep dreaming.
They're actually now looking to tear down the Tropicana and put the stadium they're across from MGM grand
It’s very simple. The A’s had plenty of hurdles and run arounds dealing with the city of Oakland, Las Vegas, has a lot of sponsors waiting to pounce and the money is there. It was just a matter for the A’s just telling southern Nevada that hey, we’re committed to move. That’s all it took. Commitment. I’m originally from Oakland and now living in Henderson. Infrastructure and projects here are built in 3-4 years, Oakland takes decades. 🤣
BINGO!!
Oakland has had 30 years to build a damn ballpark. Now your "LAST" team has come to the conclusion to say "f*ck it" suddenly, you're crying wolf
Imagine being proud of a city using taxpayer money to build a billionaires sports stadium🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
@@trollheyman2703 imagine, having millions of different people coming and going into a billion dollar facility with jobs created due to events, and not just for baseball. Creating more jobs and bringing in revenue. Stfu and go live your corny ass at some small towns. 🤣
7:03 "but this really wasn't Oakland's fault."
Bullcrap. Let me explain why.
You're not wrong in blaming John Fisher and the A's ownership group for doing all the wrong that they did. However, you ARE wrong in basically letting the Oakland city government off the hook in this issue. As you said, it takes two to tango in negotiations, and I'm sorry but I don't see any proof whatsoever that the city of Oakland ever negotiated in "good faith", as Mayor Sheng Thao put it. Do you see what Oakland as a city is dealing with, putting baseball aside? Whose fault is that? Oakland city government. They had at least 20 years to get a new stadium deal done with the A's, and the politicians dragged their feet every chance they got. If the local government truly cared about keeping the A's (or any pro sports team) in Oakland, they would have gotten a deal done instead of the nonsense we've seen.
There are no good guys/heroes in this story. I see nothing but bad guys/villains jockeying for position, and of course the fans are the ones who get hurt the most. You can't 100% blame the A's for not wanting to wait forever for Oakland politicians to get their act in gear while playing in a collapsing Coliseum and settling for Las Vegas. Plenty of blame to go around imo.
I’m not defending either side because ultimately there’s a lot of people to be blamed here but let’s not ignore that facts here. Im speaking on the current Howard Terminal project not the past projects here but the A’s asked them for $350 million for offsite infrastructure and Oakland got $375 million and guess what Covid happened delays happened. Inflation happened. A’s asked for more and ultimately they were stuck on $80-$90 million to complete the project and they were planned last week before this happened to to come together and finish the project. And A’s got too greedy thinking Oakland would continue to bend over backwards for them and it ultimately backfired and now they are facing huge backlash
@@gamer_athletics Okay, but how much money was spent on MOUNT DAVIS to lure the Raiders back after 15 years?...
Hope we sign shohei ohtani next year
You claim that Vegas loves the Raiders, but did you forget that the Raiders sold more seats to visiting fans than their own? Those crowds were mostly wearing the other teams colors.
This team is gonna break so many records and this team is gonna break so many records it is everything you need hot high altitude dry and everything so hyped and can’t wait to use them in MLB the show and can’t wait to see them break so many home run records
A’s finally get to change of scenery by relocating to Las Vegas because Oakland is a dump. Next stop 🛑: A NBA team!
And the team will still suck if they go because the Owner is cheap. New stadium doesn’t fix everything
@@gamer_athletics Ownership will spend money AFTER the move to Vegas, not BEFORE
Lmao no las Vegas prostitute team will ever be as good as bay area teams 😂
@@gamer_athletics🤡
What Vegas locals and casual fans dont realize is that you guys might get a brand new stadium but you get the same cheap owner only way you guys will have a better A's than Oakland is if Fisher sales the team.
We'll see who is a greater Scrooge, Fisher or the city of Oakland... The Coliseum does NOT have many revenue producing amenities as the other NEWER stadiums the A's compete against... And I blame the city of Oakland whose economic development policy needs a serious review which allowed THREE major league sports teams to leave... One wonders whether a economic development policy exists...
I bought my place by where they were supposed to build this stadium. Now that I’ve seen how Oakland runs their city. How dirty and unsafe it is to live here. I won’t be staying much longer. For those that live here or have visited Oakland. This really is one of those most beautiful cities. The lack of effort to clean and keep it safe is a real tragedy. Oakland is a gem, unfortunately it takes leaders with values to see value.
Bro why the hell did you move there in the first place 😂 you must not be from california to think that was a good idea.
ok answer this ? why did the raiders and warriors leave if it wasn't the city ?
Warriors left just because they wanted to, the Raiders left because they couldn't get any money from Oakland
@@whalesequence And what do you think is going on with the A's
Oakland hasn't cared much for the Athletics to keep them cos they had 30 years to build a new ballpark. Now that it's your last team you're like: 🫥
This could be a great thing in disguise regarding John Fischer investing in the future Las Vegas A's since both him and Mark Davis despise each other. It'll force both the A's and the Raiders to actually compete properly (basically a sports arms race) for the sports/entertainment dollar aka investing in their franchises.
John Fisher is a lying, cheap POS. He could spend more now if he wanted, regardless of the stadium situation, but deliberate chooses not to. He cares about owning the team as an asset only, not winning. You're dreaming.
Wrong question. Does the city of Oakland deserve to keep the A's. Nobody cares if an owner shows up to games or speaks the press. In fact, most prefer a silent owner. Further, who among us would want to deal with ideologs (city of Oakland) that place BS requirements on every project (low housing). The city made everything complicated, and it is always off the backs of the developer. So, the A's responded with a sell off of assets to push the issue over the edge. Good for them and good for Vegas.
The A's found out how much Raiders were making in Las Vegas, so NOW they want to go there now, if I was Vegas I wouldn't want them cause they don't care about winning just make them selfs RICHER
Almost took you seriously, UNTIL I realized you left out a part in this whole story. The more I hear about the #Athletics As Las Vegas situation, the more half baked it feels.
* No Legislation Passed
No design architect
* No ballpark renderings
Asking for $500M
* Upset power players in LV
* needs MLB owners' approval for waived relocation fee
Please I’m not saying aren’t fully going but it’s not “OFFICIALLY” confirmed than you stated or clickbaiting people into thinking. I get it tho anything for the clicks
Not saying they won’t end up leaving as for one it’s obvious I’m an A’s fan in Oakland. but none of this is truly actually confirmed, could it be all true? Yes. I just wished you did more research about it rather than just posting a video without knowing what you’re talking about
You sound just like the rest of the media just like examples in this video.
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You’re right except Oakland unfortunately called their bluff and cancelled negotiations. Not that they couldn’t open up again behind the scenes. Go A’s!
Most likely Populous will dig out one of their ballpark blueprints from their desk and slot it into whatever property the A's and the city of Las Vegas choose. Populous will use whatever construction materials required to fit within the budget as they usually do this throughout the nation with all of their designs... Although they cannot control government graft...
@@ronclark9724 populous designs most ballparks, no?
Can we move N Vegas to oakland ?
It’s is significant that the cost difference between Oakland and the Vegas stadium is 10 billion dallors
100% right on everthing!!!!!!!!
and the warriors had to move to san francisco
Back in 1971 the Warriors moved from San Francisco to Oakland, times sure have changed
The new stadium will on the strip where the Tropicana is.
I totally support the A’s moving to Vegas. Beautiful move.
Ayyyyyyyyyy 🎉💯🤙🏼
It’s not official.
Is Raiders owner Mark Davis going to sue the Las Vegas A's??????????
Las Vegas A's: Yuck! Yuck! Yuck!
You don't live in Vegas if you think that land is a good location. In fact, you've never visited Vegas and been to Allegiant Stadium if you think that land is a good location.
That said, major league baseball in a shitty location is better than no mlb at all
It's closer than a mile. It literally is across the street from TMobile arena and 3 blocks north of Allegiant Stadium
Raiders make great sales, yes. However it isn’t the same fanbase as Oakland. Not as passionate
Yea no passion forsure. Vegas is lame compared to oakland
MLB couldn't care less cos rather the A's are awful or good, it's the 💰 from investors and opposing teams.
That passionate BS is a bunch of nonsense. Oakland should have been more committed to building a ballpark
#PartyBaseballInTHeCasinoCityByTheDesertOfSouthernNevada! #VivaOrHurrahBeingHurrayForLasVegas!
So as an owner, he's just making a bunch of money and pocketing it? Is this all just TV money? Having a losing team with 0 attendance can't help the value of the team.
But this is VEGAS. The casinos & investors would offer Fischer a retirement package "ONCE" the ballpark is built.
Well researched, well spoken, quality work good sir. I hope your sub count goes to the moon.
Is Las Vegas going to Steal a Basketball Team from another City also ???
A’s go to Vegas…. They’re going to suck for at least a few years, right? They have one “top 100 MLB prospect”… they’d take the same team they have now… 🤷🏻♂️
😏 It would be funny if Vegas backs out on the tax incentives… Vegas has hand now.
Selig to wolff ? That sounds like some inside tribe shit !
And two of the biggest frauds ever!
1st
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Im cool wit everything except for funding with tax payer money.
Is Vegas going to get a Major League Soccer team??? If so, does this mean another $500 million in taxpayer money???
A's have the lowest attendance yet have the largest stadium by seat capacity in all of MLB. If they didn't move they may have imploded onto themselves
Why theyre moving? Because john joe fisher is a jew and has been penny pinchin with this team just to get his way.