What judges wear around the world
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 22. 11. 2019
- Did you know judges in other countries wear stuff other than just black robes? Why do some judges still wear wigs? Why do they even wear robes at all?
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The ultimate expression of power is wearing the silliest outfit you can and nobody is allowed to laugh.
I know people in IT that push this principle. They go to work in t-shirts and blue jeans while everyone else is wearing suits, because they know that they can't be fired since they run the computers.
Emperor's new clothes, indeed.
@@josephwang5859 I would say it is the other way around, all the rest wear these ridiculous, tacky suits instead of dressing like a normal person, because they feel like they either can or must. IT guy here btw ;)
Power is not in what you wear, it is in controlling what other people wear
@@josephwang5859 If you look at managerial class in silicon valley you won't have trouble finding people in business casual or formal dress. Granted many of them are MBAs and not actual IT people.
Fun fact: The Philadelphia Eagles, at the former Veteranâs Stadium (now demolished), used to have its own court to put overly rowdy fans on trial.
Wow đ€Ł
@@nightinqs do they have the same thing at the linc?
Seriously?
Remember, these were the fans who boo-ed Santa Claus and pelted him with snowballs. And they say Philadelphia is the "City of Brotherly Love." đ€Łđ
Thatâs my eagles!
Those Turkish judges look like they're cosplaying as evil space wizards from an obscure Star Wars ripoff.
Turkish star wars
Turkey has one of those (its not very obscure though)
@@Naderium it has a sequel which is quite obscure
When I was little I saw a picture of the Canadian Supreme Court Judges and I thought they were Santa's brothers and sisters.
Jonathan Pham no child should have to see it
J.J. McCullough buy children *CAN* see them
@@JJMcCullough australia is coming for you
They are
Santa judging us - makes sense. You better not pout. You better not shout. He/She knows when youâve been bad or good. etc.
Let's all agree that the Kenyan judges had the most *swag*
yes
I like the way he said it: Keen-Ya.
The reason why black robes were in vogue going back to at least the Elizabethan era was because black was an expensive and difficult dye to manufacture. Hamlet dressed in black not just for mourning but also to show his wealth and status. The black dye was made from a type of mushroom or a black sheep if you could find one. It makes sense that Lords and others in a position of authority would be clothed in a colour that a commoner could not afford.
Utter nonsense. Black dye was expensive, huh? I guess you've never seen... fire. Or what remains after it dies out. I guess you've never heard the phrase "pitch black", or know what pitch is.
Black used to be expensive, until it was discovered that if you use enough woad which normally is used to make blue, you get black.
@@Nukle0n Spot on. Even some of the modern black dyes if diluted enough will take on a blue appearance. Unlike tar which sticks to wool and doesn't wash out or charcoal which will go grey after the first wash; woad was available and could set in.
@@arnbo88 I have a pair of "black" corduroys that are like that now lol deep, dark navy after getting worn/washed enough
Very well researched! German Supreme Court robes are indeed a conscious reference to judges' wear in Renaissance Florence, since this is seen as the cradle of Humanism and Human Rights.
They also look like cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church. All that shiny, shiny red with the red hats...
I'm from Brazil. Indeed I'm a lawyer from Brazil. The dark robe is the maximum people will use in court and only in two situations. 1. A high ceremony, wich rarely occurs. 2. The judgement of a jury (Brazil only have juries in crimes against life, so robes are even more rare in court).
In any other situation, the judge, the lawyer and prosecutors will use a plain business outfit. I guess that's because Portugal was never fond of overdressing and Brazil has a pretty warm climate. And I could add that we are traditionally informal and tend to judge overdressing and snobbish behaviour as inappropriate.
If you research our Supreme Court sessions you'll see how rare is using robes even in the highest courts.
is dragging people to brazil unwillingly a crime?
Fun fact: upon becoming Chief Justice of the United States, William Rehnquist opted to add gold stripes to the sleeves of his robe; he was inspired by the costume worn by the Lord Chancellor character in a production of his favorite Gilbert and Sullivan opera.
Also, I suspect the red-and-gold arrow motif on the Turkish robes are a reference to the "Six Arrows of Kemalism." These represent the tenets of Kemal Ataturk's political philosophy (Republicanism, Nationalism, Populism, Revolutionism, Secularism, and Statism.) They are usually depicted as gold arrows against a red field.
it wasn't upon his ascension to Chief Justice, but rather upon the occasion of his presiding over the impeachment of Bill Clinton that Scalia added the gold stripes to his robe. I know this because I lived through it.
@@jamespfitz Per Wikipedia, Chief Justice Rehnquist adopted the gold stripes in 1995, four years before presiding over the Clinton impeachment trial. The article makes no mention of Justice Scalia influencing the Chief Justice's fashion choice: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rehnquist
You are correct, however, that he did not opt for the gold stripes until some years after becoming Chief Justice in 1989, my bad. Incidentally, I also incorrectly claimed that the Kemalist flag depicted gold arrows against a red field; they are actually white arrows. I'm honestly surprised no one picked me up on that one.
J.J judging judges while in black, yas Mister Justice slay.
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Liam Corrigan What?
@@captrex7153 Is the enemy trench gunner having a stroke?
Zoe H yes of course he is. Is it not obvious
In Poland the black robe is universal for all types of courts and lawyers but the colour of collar signifies the function you perform at court: purple is for judges, red for prosecutors, green for attorneys, blue for legal counsel/solicitors and half-white, half-red (colours of Polish national flag) for judges of the Constitutional Tribunal.
In eastern Europe, they wear robes, but only ones made by Adidas.
Gopnik nation
TRI POLOSKI
TRI PO-
TRI POLOSKI
Judge robe with three stripes down the sleeve
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Heels on the ground when Slavs squat around. Heels in the sky? Western spy!
This should've been called judging judges and I'm sad that it isn't.
at the EscobarÂŽs time, judges in COlombia used to wear a mask to protect their identities
Wow, that's true !?
Hahahađđđđtrue
Little COVID practice
That must be horrifying to be in court.
Also, Escobar unleashed a plauge of hippos that Medellin is still dealing with to this day
Those aren't Judges in Turkey, they're Time Lords
JJ: Except for ALL of South America!
JJ: *double-checks notes*
JJ: Except for HALF of South America!
Thought the same thing
* doesnt mention Guyana, either among those that DO or DONOT * :(
Now JJ is going to be denounced by Australia. He's in for a booting if they get him.
Oh we will get him alright!
His burn caused all the bushfires
First Quebec, now Australia.
@@The_Yosh then new zealand, then mexico, then peru, then poland, then norway, then the rest of nato, then the whole of canada
It seems like the sort of system an LNP argument would birth
Alright J. J., you successfully prevented me from getting some work done.
i really feel sorry for the cameroon judges even i feel the heat watching that pic
Edit: i spelled it wrong sorry
lyra ginne *Cameroon
Im from cameroon and I grew up in the US, don't know why they wear them...
Lionel Joseph seemed hot too...;)
They probably have air conditioning in court rooms
Kamerun?
Hopefully not "nothing"
I can't imagine all these South American judges showing up to court in their birthday suits
Very informative video! A small correction: the âCommunist-style Uniformâ photo is actually taken from a martial court, so it makes sense why they are all in military uniforms
I get that they look like Santa. But what if it was the other way around. What if Santa's outfit was an imitation of the current supreme court attire? He does "judge" behaviour.
*ta dum tssh*
Saint Nicholas was the bishop of Anatolia, and religious leaders often serve a judicial role in traditional societies, so you might be onto something
That's such a good take!
Heh. I heard that Santaâs iconic look actually came about from a political cartoon. Canât remember the details though.
Santa was a mushroom brothwr
This was way more fun than I thought it was going to be
Nobody:
JJ: Oo-ganda, Keen-ya
The first pronunciation is right, though. It's not "Youganda".
COME-TO-MA-ROOM
Keen-ya is the old imperial pronounciation. Kenya decided it should be pronounced Ken-ya when they became independant.
@@MaxwellTornado As someone who has lived in Uganda, I disagree. But don't just take my word for it: www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/pronunciation/english/uganda
@@richardtedyell3350 As a Kenyan myself I can confirm this claim.
2:23 that's my favourite movie and I'm surprised anybody even still remembered it! Nice JJ
Caesar itâs a classic!
I'm from Argentina. I was very confused at the start of the video because I didn't think that many countries had special clothes for their judges, how weird. Then you mentioned us and it all made sense, we're the odd ones out! Here the judges just wear plain suits and nothing more. Not sure why don't we have a specific clothing pattern but to be honest I find it kinda weird that the rest of the world does. Like, why even bother? Just let them go to work as they please lmao
Shows how insular the Chileans and Argentinians are tbh.
At 10:54 the Jamaican judges, The fourth judge from the left is my godmother justice Hilary Phillips of the court of appeal!
RoxStew5 very cool!
And you completely forgot Judge Dreddâs uniform?
You have earned my respect.
I was looking for this comment , thank you
Wow, as an argentine, I was very surprised that the majority of judges in the world wear fancy costumes, I always thought it was a british practice. I think that the reason why many judges in South America simply use their own clothes is that after Independence we were really inspired by the Illustration and the concepts of the French Revolution like "égalité".
Then I guess some South American countries took this idea more to the extreme than the French did.
In the US judges wear black robes and sometimes cuffs and ribbons. Crazy thing in the US is the bailiffs, the representatives of the county sheriff in charge of court procedure and security. In New England and the Southeast, it's common for the bailiff to put on a little show mixing words from Norman French and Old English to announce the start of a court session.
I do believe the most realistic reason in terms of South America is the cost of procuring such costume. Since itâs very expensive to produce the stuff for judges.
@@aviatorsound914 but they could afford those clothes. In Argentina judges are the best paid public employees and they don't have to pay taxes at all.
In Poland they wear robes (although they're called togas) with jabots. And here's a fun part: color coding. Judges wear purple jabots, prosecutors the red ones and attorneys wear blue or green*.
There are also some much rarer colors reserved for high offices - half red half white (national colors) for Constitutional Tribunal judges and blue gray for "for counselors of senior counselors of the General Prosecutor's Office of the Republic of Poland". Until now I really didn't know who they were, but it turns out it's somehow related with representing State Treasury in courts.
(a picture of a polish judge is shown at 9:29 (with the eagle medallion, eagle being a national symbol))
* depending whether they're legal counselors (blue) or advocates (green). These are technically different professions, but the difference is small.
JJ has an unusual knack of taking what is an initially boring or mundane subject and making it interesting or even fascinating. Also, the all black outfit was very appropriate for this video. Saturday feels incomplete without him.
You're calling the Western-style Chinese military uniforms "Communist-style", and the Mao/Zhongshan-suit version "Western-style"?
He's correct because most if not all communist bloc judges wore military uniforms in court
Also a note: The Zhongshan Suit was invented by the Kuomintang and the Commies wear it just to look "revolutionary"
@@MarkLinJA no
@@niccolorichter1488 Um I literally lived in commie China for a good half of my life lol
I would wear a Goofy wig with a graduation cap and fancy chain and all that. Because as history tells us, the stupider you look, the more powerful you are.
Those Turkish judge costumes look pretty neat, but I think having a big medallion is also a nice touch.
Actual judge here. In Arizona, we use the plain black robe cut in what's called "chancellor style" as an example of the crossover you mentioned between academic and judicial regalia. We have to provide the robe ourselves, even though it is often acceptable to preside over the court with a suit and tie just depending on how formal the proceeding is and whether people are appearing in person as opposed to telephonically. This may have something to do with the more casual culture of the west coast as opposed to the eastern US as well as the weather. I tried wearing a robe over a full suit with my COVID mask on for my first day, and it was unbearably hot.
6:47 Oh my god! He mentioned Pakistan. J.J finally mentioned Pakistan. I have been waiting for this day to come for months!
9:37 Iâm pretty sure that guy is graduating from Judge school đ
The Polish judge from 9:28 is actually the judge from a court show on the TV. However he is actually a real judge so it counts I guess. I really like the Polish black robe with the gold chain. Not too over the top and excessive as the Anglo ones, not too vintage or too modern, simple but nice.
I think Spain and Turkey definitely take the cake as the coolest
Those Turkish judges looks like a end boss in a video game lmao.
If anyone was interested, at 3:11 that is Father Michael McGivney, the creator of the Knights of Columbus
That feeling when you have no friends but your favourite CZcamsr calls you friend.
I'd like to see a video on graduation dresses, as well as master's degree and doctoral degree's dresses. My university (UANL - Mexico) has a very weird one.
Laughed so hard at the Australian snub lol btw man thank you for the short chat. Had me stumped on the video suggestion ideas for what next because youve been doing this for so long and covered so much so ive never been dissapointed in the content especially if its just random things like flags you make it insanely enjoyable. Its a magic you got to it. Real genuine man. Much respect for your articulation of so many topics you cover. Oh and btw the stuble suits you.
That random guy you met on Davie st.
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*There's a magic
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it's = contraction of "it is/has"
its = for possession
Talk about German politics and minor British parties next
Hi, Iâm from chile and quiet briefly I can tell you that we Chileans don not regard the judges as some sort of prestigious branch of our democratic system, however since our contra was in fact along itâs history very conservative we still kept the very formal outfit, we still firmly believe when it comes to working that we judge a book by its cover.
Hopefully you got something out of my reply.
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On the topic of Russian in Robes in the The Russian version of Jeopardy contestants would wear a graduation cap and robe returning contestants wearing golden and new contestants wearing black
Fun fact: Rather than promoting respect for the rule of law and its continuity by continuing to honor their own historical legal tradition, or at least switching to tasteful American-style minimal robes or even to the longstanding unrobed tradition of their own highest court, the UK Labour Government decided to "modernize" civil and family court dress by handing their design over to a popular runway fashion designer known for her "funky" clothes--this for a sartorial task that is specifically supposed to communicate *timelessness* to the public. The results would have provoked laughter in any era, with one annoyed judge memorably calling it the "Las Vegas Star Trek Experience usher" court dress.
In Eastern Europe the judges wear black robes with three stripes running down the sleeve
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All persons having memes before the court are admonished to draw near and give their attention, for a new video is uploaded!
I was wondering about the robes in my country Belgium.
It starts with the simple black, then red for the higher courts. But holy shit our constitutional court is "special". Fully blue with a hats, medals and the 2 highest justices even have some with fur. Quit a suprise since I've never seen them before online or on television.
A brilliant film by JJ on how judges dress and look, right around the world. And it starts with the original of why judges typically war old-fashioned garb - it stems from the way that aristocrats and the powerful (who acted as judges then) dressed in the Renaissance period.... There is no other clear and accessible presentation like this. It would take ages searching for pictures on-line; before the web existed one would have depended on some encyclopaedia which could not have been so comprehensive. JJ's work here deserves an award from the International Bar Association. It will be of greatest use to lawyers themselves.
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2:12 Let's all take the time to appreciate that JJ used a clip from Spitting Image in this video.
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Indeed, Portuguese judge outfits look a lot like university outfits.
Also, Portuguese supreme court judges also wear a collar.
When I was fighting a speeding ticket in ontario, i had to call the judge "your worship" wtf
Lil Rawri never heard of this being a thing in Ontario. But then again, I donât go to court often so...
@@FullOfMalarky so you dont really have a frame of reference to comment?
Also i googled it and it is specifically justices of the peace that you must refer to as "your worship"
Lil Rawri yeah man, CZcams is the last place you need a frame of reference comment anything
I think they meant worthship.
Isn't that what Mayor's are called?
Didnât know I needed this. âïž thx!
11:11 That banner literally read: PLA Court Martial lol
I love that âFry and Lauriâ skit with the trial
These are the type of videos I subed for, keep it up
Evan Gately Theyâre becoming increasingly unpopular unfortunately
Years ago I came across the website you put up about judicial wear, including the quote from US justice Scalia giving it a shoutout
8:19 And all this time, I thought they were just caps to keep warm when they're outside like this outdoor inauguration event.
Mister Justice sounds like an attorney by day, super hero by night type of guy.
The only time Iâve ever heard someone refer to an article of clothing as a ânumberâ was in old timey television.
Iâm from Ecuador, had no idea that judges wore special clothing until i saw and was influenced by American media, now I find it weird that our judges donât wear anything special.
Yay a new video
I once heard that the purpose of the wig (at least until the 19th century) was to make the Judge and/or lawyers less likely to be a target for intimidation since people might realize that they're a judge outside the court if they look the same inside the court. With that said, with the advent of photography, and later the internet, the wig doesn't really offer much pseudo-anonymity.
Kisai Yuki from what I understand, thatâs actually been more of a popular post-hoc rationalization for keeping the wigs in *modern* times. Presumably because âwe need the wigs to seem grander than common peasantsâ is not a very persuasive argument these days.
âIn the Dominican Republic the cuffs are purple and they wear hatsâ đ€Ł
Thank you for this video mâlad
Man I love youâre channel JJ. Iâm in the US in Colorado. And I have to say the way you speak sounds really similar to the US, the only time you sound different is when you use the word âaboutâ thatâs about it. There may be more but Iâd have to listen more of you speaking
9:29 - Polish judge from a famous tv series Family Court, sadly not aired anymore :(
The famous renaissance painting is of Frederico III duke of Urbino. He cut out the bridge of his nose to see with his peripheral vision after he lost an eye.
"Annual judges parade, which is a real thing"đ€Łđ
For context for those that don't know, what he was referring to was the annual ceremony at the start of the legal year, where judges, QCs and others process from Westminster Abbey to the Houses of Parliament afterwards for breakfast. www.parliament.uk/about/how/occasions/lcbreakfast/
This is an odd video but i like it, keep it going jj
The South African one is pretty good. Cameroon should adopt that instead of the one they use now.
Great Wolf powder wigs are cool though
So I'm from Tulsa, but live in Hamilton, On. I noticed that the judge is addressed as "your worship" and you had to bow to them (I would not do either). Is this an Ontario thing only?
9:18 EYYYY!!! FEDERICO DA MONTEFELTRO!!! Totally rad dude.
Our Kenyan judges...they be rocking those robesđđ
Loved the video. Much love from Kenya.
By the way...the pronunciation is Kenya, not Kinya. Sorry for seeming nitpicky. That pronunciation just really bothered međ đ đ đ
This was very interesting. Something I took for granted but never really thought about it. đ
Thank you for the Dominican shoutout! I never understood those ridiculous hats.
Okay, I'm from Turkey and I'm here to explain those robes. In Turkish law "mythology" robes are designed the way they are for a reason such as :
Black to symbolise neutrality (it is a neutral color, no party or royal family uses black as their primary color), it has no buttons so judges don't button their robes out of respect (yes, buttonning your jacket is a sign of respect in Turkey) and they don't have pockets so you don't take money from anyone.
The colors of the linings (much like Canada) symbolise different specialities. Red for criminal judges, green for civil judges and gray for administratitive judges.
Those extra robes are for Supreme Court of Appeals judges. Court of Accounts and Constitutional Court of Turkey judges also have their own spesific robes. The last one by far has the most stylish one.
In Indonesia, judge costumes look like the typical judge look with robes, without wigs. But what makes it interesting is that the table that the judges use must have a green sheet covering them. Hence in Indonesian, "to be at the green table" is an expression meaning "to be at court".
Christopher Tito thatâs cool! Is it a Muslim thing?
@@JJMcCullough I don't think it's a Muslim thing since this phenomenon only occurs in Indoensia as far as I know. By the way, fun fact, despite being Muslim-majority, Indonesia isn't actually an Islamic country. It officially recognises 6 different religions including Hinduism and Christianity. It was made as a compromise in order to prevent the non-Muslim majority areas from splitting off from the country, like Bali.
Any other Zelda nerds recognize the âmourningâ leitmotif at 2:40
Haha its from a link to the past! I'm glad I saw this comment on my rewatch.
your discourse makes me laugh...carry on
You have the best video topics JJ
I didn't think that you'd show Turkey's outfit thanks jj
8:16 My man Breyer looking good in that toque!
5:18 me and the darths in the sith order meetup
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Yo JJ, what happened to the video on impeachment that you just uploaded?
Hey, J.J. Can you please explain every leader of Japan in a next video?
Here in Puerto Rico, judges wear the traditional black robe but both male and female judges wear white lace at the bottom edge of the sleeves or cuffs, just like in Spain. Actually I'm sure that's where the idea came from.(pictured here at 11:54 of the video).
I have been judged more while watching this video than while watching any other video.
That little soundbite made me want to play A Link to the Past.
Another really interesting video!!
The portuguese outfit seems is very similar to the british one, with the black robes with lace design on the sleeves and back. It is easy to miss that they wear a ROPE ON THEIR NECK tied like a haging rope. The rope is usually black but it can be found in red. In Angola they use something similar. www.codaltex.pt/vestuario/vestuario-juridico/
Alternative designs for any sci-fi/fantasy/superhero villain:
JJ talking about Judges whilst wearing black. Coincidence? I think not!
Where else are you going to find videos with this title?
11:12 Come on, the banner literally says âmilitary court criminal trial divisionâ. Do your due diligence, JJ.
C Lew yes it's a court martial so the judges are obviously in military uniform. The smaller characters stand for the PLA.