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Comparison of Visconti - Di Modrone & Cary-Yale Tarot Decks - 3/21/2021
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2021
- Comparison of Visconti - Di Modrone & Cary-Yale
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Thanks for pointing out the differences with direct comparisons, I'm new to the deck's so this was helpful to me~
For anyone wondering, the reason these decks are different is because the Cary-Yale or Madrone deck only has 11 surviving Trumps, has 17 court cards (more than normal), and 39 pip cards (missing 1). We do not actually know how many trump cards it had originally, or what order they were in. The designers appear to have used the different Visconti decks to fill in the missing cards, adding extra figures to them to fit with the style of the extant cards. So there is no such thing as an "accurate" Cary Yale deck, and reproductions like these are taking many artistic liberties. In fact, in some cases they have taken liberties to make the new cards align more with the Marseille decks than the other Visconti decks. The Visconti Bermago is the most complete early deck we have, and in it the Magician is seated. All Visconti decks are missing the Tower and the Devil, so all "reproduction" decks include modern paintings, sometimes laughably modern. Temperance is not winged in early decks, that is a Marseilles thing. I would say that honestly neither of these reproductions is likely especially accurate and both seem more interested in making "readable" decks closer to Marseilles than using images from extant Visconti or Charles IV decks.
I have the Il Meneghello version of the Modrone and they only reproduced the cards as they exist today so many of the cards are missing.
Yes, definitely aware of that but many people don't know these exist at all. It's great to see the old cards.
The Lo Scarabeo version did not substitute the three cardinal virtues - Faith, Hope and Charity - for missing Trump cards, and I think that was the right decision as the symbolism doesn't work properly in the US Games ordering. Also, the Lo Scarabeo version uses the Visconti Sforza deck quite a lot to fill in for the missing cards, which I think works better than the US Games version's use of new paintings. I have no problem with new paintings as such, but these US Games ones just aren't very good. They're garish and stylistically incompatible with the original deck.
I think some of the cards like the Devil and the Tower are different because the original was missing lots of cards and it was up to our contemporary artists and producers of the decks to imagine what those cards looked like originally.
Yes, very true. Thank you for watching my video! :)
Cary-Yale é um Tarot incrível, obrigado por compartilhar. 🇧🇷
This was super awesome! Thanks so much! Hugs from the Netherlands
Hi Carrie! Thank you so much, I'm so glad that you enjoyed it!
@@InquisitiveTarot I am watching it for the fourth time now and this is such a helpful lovely video.
@@carriespider8438 Oh thank you so much.
Hello Sheilah! Thanks for your wonderful video, it's very natural and I enjoyed watching it! It's the most splendid comparison on CZcams! And I liked all of your comments, so warm and nice! In regards to the decks, I want to have both, but I am afraid it's not possible at the moment. Because of your review, I liked the Cary-Yale version more except the Coins - they look better in Visconti di Modrone Tarot deck by Lo Scarabeo! I wonder why the cards differ so much, but the Cary-Yale version looks more like an "old" product, and not only because of the signs of age. The visibility of details are not ideal in both decks - I once had Golden Marseilles deck by Lo Scarabeo - the gold foil killed all the details! But some details got lost in Cary-Yale deck because it's old and worn out. What a choice! Still, BOTH decks are beautiful and definitely worth having!
I'm so glad that you enjoyed it! It took me so long to get that video up! I love both decks and they are both worth the money!!
The meneghello version is the one identical to the original. Some of the original cards are available at the Morgan library and museum site. But between those two on your video, I believe the Visconti di modrone version is closer to the original, but still a little different.