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  • Can I make this RC car faster with a ground-effect fan? Sponsored by World of Warships! Play World of Warships for FREE and unlock special D-Day missions here: wo.ws/4br7Vhz
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  • @Project-Air
    @Project-Air  Před 2 dny +28

    Download World of Warships for FREE today! wo.ws/3V46noT

    • @HS92843
      @HS92843 Před 2 dny +2

      Can I get it on Xbox ??

    • @RekySai
      @RekySai Před 2 dny

      Personally I unsubscribe from CZcamsrs who love to lie. F1 is a racing division.... Convoluting it into what ever you want is dumb

    • @boimcpickle
      @boimcpickle Před 2 dny

      @@RekySai 💀

    • @CrayCrayCrayfish72
      @CrayCrayCrayfish72 Před 2 dny

      @@RekySai F1 also refers to the chassis on the F1 car

    • @Starlite123
      @Starlite123 Před dnem +1

      Maybe a rubber skirt and tape at the bottom just to let it glide over the bumps?

  • @ivanmirandawastaken
    @ivanmirandawastaken Před 3 dny +960

    FIND - A - TUNNEL (with a flat ceiling)

    • @junatah5903
      @junatah5903 Před 2 dny +27

      Every tunel has a ceiling, doesn't have to be flat either.

    • @sabyasachitalukdar4314
      @sabyasachitalukdar4314 Před 2 dny +13

      Build a tunnel with flat ceiling

    • @LordRidler
      @LordRidler Před 2 dny +19

      ​@@junatah5903should be flat to drive this car on the ceiling I guess

    • @testpilotian3188
      @testpilotian3188 Před 2 dny

      @@ivanmirandawastaken just go to the London Underground on a slow day, plenty of flat tunnels there lol

    • @bakerfx4968
      @bakerfx4968 Před 2 dny +18

      There’s a guy trying to do that full scale and they’re building their own track for it. Project Air should do a scaled down version lol

  • @A1pha012
    @A1pha012 Před 3 dny +239

    If anyone is interested in fan cars, the McMurtry Spéirling recently broke track records, proving that ground effect is very effective under the right circumstances.

    • @Losthewaronemus
      @Losthewaronemus Před 2 dny +8

      I was about to start yapping about this car when I saw your comment. Clearly a man of culture, or Carwow enjoyer

    • @user-zr1gy8cp4l
      @user-zr1gy8cp4l Před 2 dny +4

      You can’t forget the Gordon Murray T.50 as well

    • @Bholla64A9
      @Bholla64A9 Před 2 dny +5

      the t.50 uses the fan in a very different way which only produces downforce at high speed and does little to increase the actual downforce of the car. it is mostly to make the car "stand out"

    • @A1pha012
      @A1pha012 Před 2 dny

      @@Losthewaronemus Bit of both 😉 But also had an interest in MyEnergi for a while.

    • @Thefrogbread
      @Thefrogbread Před 2 dny

      Yes

  • @lovrospacal245
    @lovrospacal245 Před 3 dny +146

    the long awaited sequel is here

  • @Enter-wl3zf
    @Enter-wl3zf Před 3 dny +141

    Some suggestions:
    How about a skirt made from a brush?
    How about putting the ground effect tray on a separate set of suspensions from the main chassis? One irl example is the Lotus88
    One I've been asking myself watching the video is what lead to the choice of a propeller instead of an impeller to evacuate the ground effect tray, as the latter is way better at producing a pressure difference?

    • @Unapersonaconunmicroscopio
      @Unapersonaconunmicroscopio Před 3 dny +8

      That’s right, why a propeller instead of an impeller?

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před 3 dny +4

      The brush idea is good but does add friction as it is in actual contact with the ground.

    • @Guybrush1816351
      @Guybrush1816351 Před 3 dny +17

      Windscreen wiper blades might be good source, have metal spine with rubber in them.

    • @CHRIS_snm
      @CHRIS_snm Před 3 dny +12

      I think thick rubber would be the best bet! Maybe a bike inner tube, or a piece of old tire!

    • @Enter-wl3zf
      @Enter-wl3zf Před 2 dny +7

      @@superbmediacontentcreator my reasoning would be that a brush is flexible enough to deal with rough terrain, while doing a reasonable job at blocking airflow. The brush hair would also be trimmed through usage, by contacting the ground, reducing friction and tuning the system over time.
      The problem with a hard barrier as we saw in the video is that once it hits the ground the wheels suddenly lose traction, which could be reduced by using a brush skirt.
      Some hovercraft designs use brush skirts, which is why I thought of it. Granted there they try to keep air in instead of out.
      edit: I'm not sure where I saw it and cant find it atm.

  • @stevezimmerman5644
    @stevezimmerman5644 Před 2 dny +48

    There is a BBC documentary called "Gentlemen, Raise Your Skirts". About the ground effect cars Williams had back then. No fan but shaped underfloor and the skirts were spring loaded carbon strips that could retract up and down into a slot so they could touch the track surface and follow the imperfections in the track. Check it out if you can, it's awesome if you like those old BBC doc's.

    • @paulbarnett227
      @paulbarnett227 Před 2 dny

      I remember that! Wow - that makes me feel old 👴

    • @TheBillzilla
      @TheBillzilla Před 2 dny +3

      One of my fave quotes is from that, when Alan Jones complains about the ride quality of the car when they tried solid suspension. Frank Williams replies, "perhaps you could sit on your wallet, Alan?"

    • @stevezimmerman5644
      @stevezimmerman5644 Před dnem +1

      @@TheBillzilla The most gentlemanly burn ever. They don't make them like sir Frank anymore.

    • @That_guy_69
      @That_guy_69 Před 17 hodinami +1

      BBC💀

  • @BPSspace
    @BPSspace Před 2 dny +41

    James you MUST do a part 2 and see if you can get it to drive upside down! 🏎

    • @thesunnynationg
      @thesunnynationg Před dnem

      Driver 61 YT channel
      if you want to see someone do it for real.
      hasn't done it YET but preparations are running for a year now.
      and he is really adamant about that, he has surrounded himself with very smart F1 ppl to transform a Formula car into a specialized "upside down car".
      he got a big building company to build a dedicated tunnel just for that.
      I can't wait until he announces the date.

    • @jordanliszewski6549
      @jordanliszewski6549 Před 15 hodinami

      He needs to have a skirt on hinges. Which is how every car now days does it.

  • @superbmediacontentcreator
    @superbmediacontentcreator Před 3 dny +150

    The Chaparral did this long before the F1 car you cited. The concept is valid but was outlawed because the fan throws stuff all over the following cars.

    • @benkirkland5354
      @benkirkland5354 Před 3 dny +10

      Was about to say the same thing. Can-Am allowed innovations like this because F1 had too many restrictions. Once proven, F1 adopted it.

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před 2 dny +1

      @@benkirkland5354 As I was growing up I cheered this and the STP turbine car both of which failed for different technical reasons. Had they foreseen the things that ultimately killed them they would have revolutionized the sector before being simply "ruled off" the tracks. I think the electric boost shows the most promise in the near term for F1 unless that like the Grid Girls it gets banned...

    • @mattg5852
      @mattg5852 Před 2 dny +4

      As a gran turismo player, I remember having a lot of fun with this car

    • @MrMagooRC
      @MrMagooRC Před 2 dny +6

      The Jim Hall's Chaparral 2J was also closer in concept to this than the Brab, as the on the 2J had a separate snowmobile engine, so fan rotation speed wasn't a direct relation of 'main' engine speed. More consistent 'suck' across the entire speed range of the car, rather than more 'suck' at higher main enginer RPM.

    • @Regular_Thomas
      @Regular_Thomas Před 2 dny +1

      I'm sure it would throw a bunch of stuff around, but because it mostly made all of its downforce from the fan system if for whatever reason the suction between the car and the track, like a big enough bump or a skirt was broken it would lose all grip and be very dangerous. Imagine it just launching mid corner straight off the track. Great system in an ideal world but potentially deadly in a real world

  • @RetinaBurner
    @RetinaBurner Před 3 dny +45

    High pressure flexible 'tubular' perimeter skirt, low pressure chamber: Forget the walls, replace the skirting with something akin to a hovercraft skirt, but with the skirting pressurized to keep it inflated. I also suggest a tough material, as it will be in contact with the ground at high speeds.

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před 2 dny +3

      You're right in concept but there is difficulty with this sort of thing at scale. There are just some technologies and materials that don't scale down well. This is the case with your skirting material. It is very heavy and thick and hard to reproduce at a small size and get the same robust survival enjoyed in a 1:1 environment.

    • @geistmetzger
      @geistmetzger Před 2 dny +8

      Maybe the rubber squeegee from a wiper blade may work. Semi rigid but flexible/durable edge

    • @petearundel166
      @petearundel166 Před 2 dny +5

      Brush strips work too.

    • @Enter-wl3zf
      @Enter-wl3zf Před 2 dny

      ⁠@@petearundel166Thats what I’m thinking! :D

    • @bjrn-oskarrnning2740
      @bjrn-oskarrnning2740 Před 2 dny +2

      I thought maybe a spring-loaded sliding door-style wall with a low friction material at the bottom might work, or just some replaceable steel bits.

  • @industrialmonk
    @industrialmonk Před 3 dny +42

    If my memory is correct the seal was made in more than 1 over lapping section so the road contact area could be worn away then slide down to replace it. Eg had a total loss section that lowers as it's warn away.

    • @Avetho
      @Avetho Před 2 dny +2

      iirc, it was also sprung so the skirts stayed in contact with the road surface.

  • @kelevra558
    @kelevra558 Před 2 dny +18

    The issue was you locked the suspension out. You effectively cancelled out the mechanical grip of the car. In turn, you also proved the effectiveness of the design. Double edged sword so to speak. You must have heard of the McMurty special right? If not....bro.... where have you been?

  • @skazztheterrible
    @skazztheterrible Před 3 dny +21

    You found what brabham found - it is really hard to get a good seal on a road surface. Passive underfloor ground effect ended up quite quickly outpacing the active design. Fun tho! And you didn't have an actual human driver experiencing the rapid fluctuations in the effect; the drivers were terrified by it.

    • @neblolthecarnerd
      @neblolthecarnerd Před 2 dny +5

      I wouldn't say it outpaced the brabham because the brabham got banned after 1 race. If that car also got developed i reckon it would still stay ahead of the fanless ground effect cars.

    • @iskierka8399
      @iskierka8399 Před 2 dny +2

      @@neblolthecarnerd It only participated in one race, it was banned after the season but voluntarily not run, partly because of not seeing the point, but also because of practical issues - such as the fact it was connected to the engine's crankshaft. This meant shifting in corners would cause abrupt changes in traction and made it very dicey to drive at the limits.

    • @neblolthecarnerd
      @neblolthecarnerd Před 2 dny +4

      @@iskierka8399 I thought the mutual agreement was kinda a more polite way of withdrawing so they didn't actually get banned until the rules got rewritten. Especially given how easily it won the race it did do.

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian Před 2 dny

      Bernie Eccelstone already had his eye on taking over the running of the sport at that stage, he withdrew the car to stay pally with the organisers. I don’t think golden Murray and the rest of the team knew this at the time

    • @Avetho
      @Avetho Před 2 dny

      @@neblolthecarnerd The Brabham was in Lotus' sights to get it banned after they sank so much R&D money into aero downforce, so I think you're right.
      Edit: I also believe the Brabham team put a filter on it to fix the complaints of drivers getting slightly smoked out by the low levels of road dust and the few pebbles pelting their cars, and it only reduced the downforce slightly.

  • @ThePippin89
    @ThePippin89 Před 2 dny +7

    Fun fact. Gordon Murray (the designer of the BT46B fitted an aeroplanes altimeter in the cars so that it would show whether the underfloor was sealed. The drivers had a problem that the skirt would be damaged and they wouldn't know and suddenly find themselves going through a corner about 40mph quicker than they could without the ground effect and having a colossal crash. So if the altimeter was in the green they could push. If it wasn't they had to back off.

  • @AndyFromBeaverton
    @AndyFromBeaverton Před dnem +4

    The original Lotus car had sideboards mounted on slots so they would always adjust themselves to be touching the ground. Your front skirt-board doesn't need to create a perfect seal to the ground. If it's bouncing on the ground it will be slowing your car down. Some of the F1 cars used broom bristles to create a seal.

  • @ValRC1
    @ValRC1 Před 3 dny +10

    This is extremely sick, and you pulled it off so well! I have been thinking about doing something like this since seeing the Formula Student car from ETH Zürich use a similar approach for reaching 0-100km/h in under a second. IMO it's impressive how much extra downforce you ended up getting in a straight line on this.
    To improve the seal on bumpy roads, maybe you could try a 3d printed flexible TPU base with a sort of skirt around it from thin PTFE that is too long and just bends out when the car is further to the ground, but then extends once it goes more above it or over a bump?

  • @Fin240R
    @Fin240R Před 3 dny +3

    Active suspension with this on an RC car would be awesome!!!

  • @reecegobbo
    @reecegobbo Před 3 dny +2

    Just a suggestion but maybe you could get a leaf blower and blow off the road as much as possible to have a nice smooth and consistent surface to test on .. maybe remove some variables?... Love the videos keep it up 👍

  • @lesternielson9280
    @lesternielson9280 Před dnem +3

    the small bits of debris, gravel and overall road roughness at the scale of your RC car, would be similar to trying to drive a formula car on a 4x4 off road trail. perhaps try testing again on a smoother airport runway?

  • @FLTfilmstuff
    @FLTfilmstuff Před 3 dny +1

    This is epic, ur an awesome creator, don’t stop being awesome!

  • @JonahZandona
    @JonahZandona Před 3 dny +2

    its always good to see him upload and it makes my day

  • @glumpy10
    @glumpy10 Před 2 dny +2

    Love to see this run on a basketball court where the floor was perfectly smooth. That would let it really corner.
    Seems like for the skirt, some thing pliable but durable like silicone sheet would be good. Great vid as usual!

  • @TinMar79
    @TinMar79 Před 3 dny +5

    I like this concept a lot. Maybe you should try door brush seals for the skirt. First they are flexible, second durable and last you brush stones away in front of the car.

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před 2 dny

      The problem with your idea is that the contact adds drag. What you are envisioning is a reverse hovercraft which is valid but hard to do at scale...

    • @Avetho
      @Avetho Před 2 dny

      I think sprung segmented skirts would be best, its what Chaparral did with the 2J, and it worked beautifully. The only difficulty is doing so effectively at RC scales.

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před dnem

      @@redmk3t You might want to read previous comments before bestowing us with your brilliance.

    • @redmk3t
      @redmk3t Před 22 hodinami

      @superbmediacontentcreator The problem with your idea is that it's NOT valid on any scale. You probably shouldn't come up with ideas

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před 22 hodinami

      @@redmk3t Iditol leaving a comment that matches their personality... stupid.

  • @testpilotian3188
    @testpilotian3188 Před 3 dny +8

    The part you missed, or couldn’t replicate from the original fan car, was the skirts moved up and down inside a channel in the sidepods so that they maintained the perfect hight to the road all the time, the last time I saw one it was effectively a draft excluder bolted to a piece of plastic that sat in the channel. I’m also fairly sure they didn’t completely enclose the skirts at the front (and probably the back) of the car as that was how they drew the air in to create the vacuum. There’s no way this is practical to do on that size of car but maybe a bigger one?

    • @superbmediacontentcreator
      @superbmediacontentcreator Před 2 dny +3

      Actually, he could have achieved this with a spring-loaded frame under the vehicle with a segmented rolling edge. The challenge as I mentioned in a previous comment is that some materials just don't scale well and many solutions add drag from their contact with the surface. Remember the aggregate in the roadway is 1:1 not scaled to the car used for testing. This naturally hampers and intrudes on any of the solutions and improvements.

    • @TimInertiatic
      @TimInertiatic Před 2 dny

      That sounds like the Lotus ground effect skirt solution. I've not seen the Brabham layout to be fair

    • @testpilotian3188
      @testpilotian3188 Před 2 dny

      @@TimInertiatic they all worked on the same principle, either a sheet of plastic or one with draft excluders on the bottom.

    • @testpilotian3188
      @testpilotian3188 Před 2 dny +1

      @@superbmediacontentcreator in this case, size matters then lol

    • @Avetho
      @Avetho Před 2 dny +1

      @@testpilotian3188 Lol it sure does, because we know the Square-Cube law and the exponential relationship between velocity and fluid drag makes "RC Scale Speed" one of those measurements that don't mean anything. It not only affects the material properties, but the physical properties and the vehicle behavior. These RC cars also have a power to weight ratio that is immense compared to actual cars, the Traxxas Maxx V2 for example has just shy of a 1 to 1 power to weight ratio if my quick maths were right (and they may not be since I'm not full awake yet), weighing about 0.2 kilos but making 0.16 horsepower from a 6 volt, 20 amp peak draw.
      Edit: Actually, its likely far above a 1 to 1 power to weight, now that I think about it. Since those things supposedly draw like up to 100 amps or more, and the motor gets to see the full 4s 16 or so volts, and that's 1.6kW, which means 2.15 horsepower. On a 200 gram vehicle. That's over a 10 to 1 power to weight ratio. Come on stupid brain, work with me today! The rocks ain't rocking right right now XD

  • @JPTulo
    @JPTulo Před 3 dny

    Most under appreciated creator on the platform. Great project!!

  • @TheAussieAviator747
    @TheAussieAviator747 Před 3 dny +8

    You are so inspiring for young engineers/aviators. Keep doing your thing!

  • @matthewnardin7304
    @matthewnardin7304 Před 2 dny +2

    If you scaled up the small bumps and cracks in the road it would be like taking a life size F1 down a gravel road. Surprised it worked as well as it did.

  • @OpenSourceLowTech
    @OpenSourceLowTech Před 3 dny +1

    Fold of thin kevlar for the skirt? Maybe fibreglass but would be less durable.
    Also might get better results from an odd numbered blade fan?

  • @rustyscrewsrc
    @rustyscrewsrc Před 2 dny

    As always, great video! Keep inspiring builders, young and old (you got me back into the hobby and building fun creations after a 30 year break)! Thanks again!

  • @soviut303
    @soviut303 Před 2 dny +1

    You should test this in a gym or any place with polished concrete. Additionally, the skirt could probably be made out of overlapping flexible "tongues" that angle backwards and can bend when pressed down. Combat robots often use this as a flexible wheel system that's difficult to damage.

  • @iblong9505
    @iblong9505 Před 2 dny

    Man this channel keeps racking up one crazy project after another

  • @rupertwhite7683
    @rupertwhite7683 Před 2 dny

    Great project again! This is exactly my thought for pushing the next level of the RC car speed challenges. Down force with little drag penalty. Also hub motors to remove the drive train issues and be able to use gyro stabilised DTC to keep it straight. Tyres are the only unanswered question.

  • @jetbeast
    @jetbeast Před 3 dny

    amazing videos as always!i hope to get at least somewhat near your skill one day!

  • @Leon-vp3vb
    @Leon-vp3vb Před 3 dny +3

    Cut rubber strip from bicycle tube, and use it as floor vaccum seal for tray.

  • @jeremyurquhart7456
    @jeremyurquhart7456 Před 3 dny

    Love your experiments on here..top content ❤

  • @villep7907
    @villep7907 Před dnem +1

    Subscribed immediately, freaking awesome channel!
    Stuff made here with RC stuff!

  • @DarkestVampire92
    @DarkestVampire92 Před dnem +1

    A softer skirt, like one printed from TPU or made of rubber, might help. Something that can take the impact and deform to the shape of the road, rather than bouncing the car off the wheels.
    Also, i beg of you, if you're already going down this path, consider adding a second set of steering wheels at the front like the famous Tyrell P34 :P It might genuinely help with cornering.

  • @JayL781
    @JayL781 Před 2 dny

    I'm about 1 minute into the video
    I had always wondered why no one has tried to do this with an RC car 👏👍😁. I'm already loving the video 🤤

  • @thequesomanishere
    @thequesomanishere Před dnem +1

    I believe the Chaparral 2J had its skirt mounted to the suspension, not the chassis. This way the skirt stays flat with the wheels, and doesn't move with the body. Try mounting the skirt to the ends of the suspension near the ball joints, and I bet you'll have more consistent suction and longer lasting skirts.

  • @StanleyKubick1
    @StanleyKubick1 Před 2 dny +2

    Emma is the true goat of the channel. Most gf's don't stick around for this kind of tomfoolery

  • @christopping5876
    @christopping5876 Před 2 dny

    Excellent video, as always. No theatrics, unnecessary sounds or emojis. Just a logical, well edited video. Thanks. Waiting for the next one.

  • @aL3891_
    @aL3891_ Před 2 dny +2

    engineering helper.. _put a ring on it james_

  • @merijn1086
    @merijn1086 Před 2 dny +1

    Remember that rc cars are still downscaled. Driving on a normal asphalt road would scale up to like a cobblestone like surface. Perhaps a soft, flexible rubber profile could be worth a try. Quite cheap and more durable than the foam. Also, it could dampen bouncing.

  • @Yetiboy_FCTT
    @Yetiboy_FCTT Před 2 dny

    Great video yet again 😃
    The original F1 cars used thick rubber to seal the edges, but they used springs so they could move a bit through the undulating surfaces.
    Might be worth looking into 😊

  • @Croxy115
    @Croxy115 Před dnem +1

    Imagine someone was just casually walking on the side of the road and then he hear a sound but he doesn't know what it exactly is and after he go around the corner, a fast tiny car suddenly goes right pass him, he stand there in awe but not even 5 seconds later he feels a sting on his right foot when he looked down, his right foot is gone.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před 2 dny

    Fantastic work, James! Really well done!!! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @evaciano1154
    @evaciano1154 Před 2 dny

    JIMNY! very good watch and well done on your further progress.

  • @jomo2lps913
    @jomo2lps913 Před 2 dny

    I love your Videos keep going on!!!

  • @coelhovinicius140
    @coelhovinicius140 Před 2 dny

    It might be complicated, but the chaparral's fan car had the skirts somehow linked to the suspension so it stays in the right attitude, might help you with the consistency around the corners. There are so many details about those fan cars and active aero in general, have fun going down that rabbit hole!

  • @mrsmith4662
    @mrsmith4662 Před dnem +1

    Love these projects.

  • @CyclingMikey
    @CyclingMikey Před dnem

    There's an electric car that uses ground effect and is the fastest accelerating car in the world. Tom Scott did a video on it - 0-100kmh in less than a second.

  • @TregTube
    @TregTube Před 3 dny

    I have been waiting for this video for so long

  • @SINIS0RSA
    @SINIS0RSA Před 2 dny

    Imagine the rear edf installed on 1-axis servo controlled mount to provide some thrust vectoring. Ofc it would require some flexible sleeve to keep ground effect low pressure -side from leaking.
    Or maybe some active aero added to this car to help with cornering stability, and top speed (with drag reduction system).
    I’m just throwing some stupid ideas, but keep up your awesome work! 🙂

  • @BraydenBrantz
    @BraydenBrantz Před dnem +1

    your amazing man! never give up!

  • @cjsnw
    @cjsnw Před 2 dny

    Try using flat framing from nylon or teflon to keep the contact with ground.
    Keep that framing suspended from wheels using some impregnated fabric.
    Maybe even try using some sort of secondary thin short strips of fabric on the framing to compensate for smaller imperfections on the road.

  • @vikvargas2118
    @vikvargas2118 Před 2 dny

    Hell yeah. Arrma limitless!

  • @YohTaiSai420
    @YohTaiSai420 Před 2 dny

    I geek over aerodynamics in cars. This is no exception.

  • @rcmortyhobbies2567
    @rcmortyhobbies2567 Před 2 dny

    It’s good to see engineering at work. Good stuff

  • @dre-mb6fg
    @dre-mb6fg Před 3 dny +1

    that is soooo cool

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers Před 2 dny

    Love this project

  • @CappeSun
    @CappeSun Před 2 dny

    Love the Wii Sports/Japan in a nutshell -font used in the past few videos

  • @Yellow_bud
    @Yellow_bud Před 3 dny +2

    Ay the car has returned!

  • @josephreber525
    @josephreber525 Před 3 dny

    Well Done 👍👍👍

  • @H_chapman17
    @H_chapman17 Před 3 dny

    Great video, I'm sure Adrian Newey would be proud

  • @nacly4654
    @nacly4654 Před 3 dny +1

    Really should have started from propeller design if you're going to build fan assemblies from a selection of options. Having a lower RPM higher torque motor (different KV rating to prevent heat loading via efficiency loss, which is why the 10 blade fan made the motor draw power beyond what it can handle heat wise, but made more vacuum) helps you run propeller designs more optimized for efficiently creating static pressure, so you'll get more pressure difference for a given electrical output. PC fans and boat propellers both take static pressure vs. air volume into consideration.
    Material for the skirts must have a low elastic deformation force, with a high elasticity limit to account for all the rocks and road debris. Making it as thin as possible without distortion also helps. Or, keep the foam and run it indoors on a clean surface.

    • @wesdiezy
      @wesdiezy Před dnem

      Yes thank you. You're the only comment I could find that mentioned KV. I think Optimizing for a KV with a sustained desirable RPM with the 10 blade fan of a more static optimized blade design is the key. I also think that for the skirt the foam should be a single piece with a large void cut out of it for more strength. Maybe ad some kind of thin tubular uhmwpe edge to it for wear resistance. or maybe a skirt like on actual hover crafts. Hope he makes a v2 of this video.

  • @yindyamarra
    @yindyamarra Před 3 dny

    Been waiting for ages, Brilliant vid

  • @DinJaevel
    @DinJaevel Před 2 dny

    They used (not sure whether they still do) to "measure" ground effect under F1 cars with a length of wood mounted under the car. If to much of the wood was gone, they had had to much ground effect or too low ground clearance. I think the limit on the piece of wood gone was one mm.

  • @Unapersonaconunmicroscopio

    YESSSSSSSSS HE UPLOADED THE SEQUEL OF MY FAVORITE VIDEO YESSSSSSS

  • @snakedoc9533
    @snakedoc9533 Před 2 dny

    Removing the suspension travel restriction and using strips of something like Kevlar or some kind of rubber for the skirt would help a lot i think

  • @tymoteuszkazubski2755

    IIRC static pressure fans tend to have wider blades that cover more of the opening.

  • @darkphotonstudio
    @darkphotonstudio Před 3 dny

    Very cool! I’m surprised you didn’t mention the McMurtry Speirling fan car. It’s insanely fast and corners like it’s glued to the track, which it is, kind of.

  • @user-co9xg4ey1o
    @user-co9xg4ey1o Před 20 hodinami

    when i first heard about this formula 1 car i had some ideas of my own but testing them on a life size car was never going to be in my price range so you have given me a good idea, thanks

  • @jasonh8470
    @jasonh8470 Před 2 dny

    I would add some aluminum or fiberglass screening on top of the mesh which will prevent rocks or foam from bring sucked into the fan. Great first test. Looking forward to next test run.

  • @TomNomNomDotCom
    @TomNomNomDotCom Před 2 dny

    I think you could get more consistent measurements for cornering with less chances for crashes if you head to a car park or something and drive it in big circle at a fixed steering angle, gradually ramping up the speed until it slips then recording the max speed.

  • @verify6329
    @verify6329 Před 3 dny

    Might wanna try plastic painters tarp, construction trash bags or sheets of rubber. Perhaps multiple layers too

  • @onticdani
    @onticdani Před 2 dny

    I see a Jimny and thus a man of great taste

  • @dp7690
    @dp7690 Před 2 dny

    so cool !

  • @vihanjain1185
    @vihanjain1185 Před 3 dny +2

    Love ur vid amazing

  • @kmorris180
    @kmorris180 Před 2 dny

    I always enjoy your videos and having Emily's input is wonderful. The gal seems to have a good head on her shoulders. What's next? Maybe a car that turns into a plane and flies with the assistance of rocket motors?

  • @karlnowakowski7866
    @karlnowakowski7866 Před 2 dny

    Just a thought, have you considered multiple concentric seals. The pressure differential will reduce between each seal and result in an overall better and more robust seal.

  • @jaydizzay
    @jaydizzay Před 2 dny

    @Project-Air Have a look into Chaparral's solution for rough surfaces with the 2J, basically they mounted the skirts to the suspension components so the skirts rise and fall with the wheels rather than directly to the body

  • @larrytemen4789
    @larrytemen4789 Před 2 dny

    You should try brush for your ground affect set up. The use a bristle bush for sealing the bottom of garage doors etc. make the brush 1” thick the entire way around and that should work.

  • @DanielMaddux1
    @DanielMaddux1 Před 2 dny

    I would recommend using some channel mixing algorithms to increase the fan speed as a function of driver requested acceleration.
    That should allow you to use a much more powerful fan and motor combo without burning up the ESC since the fan will not always be at a high load.

  • @simmonsrenos9111
    @simmonsrenos9111 Před 2 dny

    Fantastic idea for a car, and keeping Britain tidy.....kinda cool a car that cleans the track😊
    Also make the skirt from brushes.....narrow and long

  • @benmauro1022
    @benmauro1022 Před 2 dny

    You can probably get even more downforce by pointing the fan skyward if you need to. that might even help with any sudden loss of suction, as the fan would immediately grab a shot of fresh air and throw it vertical, forcing the car back down. Thanks for the vid!

  • @richardsurey6167
    @richardsurey6167 Před 3 dny

    Use a line multiplier on your infill rather that just increasing density. It's a game changer for 3d printed part strength.

  • @peraltarockets
    @peraltarockets Před dnem

    "tea, obviously"
    James, engineering in the best British tradition.

  • @davidorbell5803
    @davidorbell5803 Před 2 dny

    you will find like in the lotus 88 the skirts are connected to the suspension arms so the shirts always remain at a set point above the ground and that way you putting all the load to the tyres and not loosing ground effect in the suspension.

  • @pneumonoultramicroscopicsi7908

    yey new content

  • @Greg....
    @Greg.... Před 2 dny

    main issue i see is rc car on a road, so scale wise the gravel and grit on the road is not to scale. But hey whilst i knew about the f1 fan cars, great to see the concept revisited. Inverse hovercraft.

  • @TimInertiatic
    @TimInertiatic Před 2 dny

    No suspension will exacerbate the bounce which breaks the ground effect. Keeping suspension with a fully flexible skirt may be better?
    Team Panic made a concertina style skirt for his ground effect combat antweight...

  • @mrharvest
    @mrharvest Před 2 dny

    I like the new dynamic with your tech person.
    And I think you've come up against some of the same issues as model ground effect planes experience. It doesn't scale exactly the same - here your floor is comparatively bumpier which makes getting good low pressure zone much harder

  • @Gajafar
    @Gajafar Před 2 dny

    Lotus used Polythene on the 79 similar to the original sucker car using articulated lexan plastic skirts on the 2J Chaparral. I'd think the wear on this would be quite immense so I wonder why they chose a plastic over rubber.

  • @mgscheue
    @mgscheue Před 2 dny

    I saw the 2J run at the Monterey Historics. The snowmobile engine and fans were really loud.

  • @sigmaoctantis_nz
    @sigmaoctantis_nz Před 2 dny

    Stiffening the suspension so much would have countered any gains in grip around corners. For grip you need compliance over bumps, which requires a more flexible skirt material to go with it. Additionally, with a solid skirt, the wheels will jump around when the skirt is contacting the ground, causing periods of a significant loss in downforce and making control difficult. I'd suggest something like a rubber sealing strip with a hollow center, similar to what is used to seal boots/bonnets in cars.

  • @scottlyman7427
    @scottlyman7427 Před 2 dny

    Try using a multiple-skirt design with the semi-rigid skirt construction. If you have 2, 3, or more layers to your skirt, you will reduce the probability venting your vacuum, as you will need all layers of the skirt to be simultaneously compromised.

  • @brendanlenane2685
    @brendanlenane2685 Před 2 dny

    Great video. Try using a brush seal for the skirt. you can get door weather stripping.

  • @MrScubaduba1
    @MrScubaduba1 Před 2 dny

    Check out Jim Hall's fan car from the early 70's. The fan was mounted horizontally which would allow greated downforce without the added ductwork.

  • @beautifulsmall
    @beautifulsmall Před 2 dny

    Nice work, micromouse vehicles have started using this technique in the last few years. The origional Brabham car was banned I believe after its first season due to its huge adventage.

  • @phylosophersstoned43
    @phylosophersstoned43 Před 2 dny

    i`d love to see more car content

  • @FullMetalTuna
    @FullMetalTuna Před 2 dny

    @Project-Air Get some door sweeps, They're just brushes on rails for the base of doors. but they will maintain a more reliable seal without bottoming out