Trying to start a hydralocked engine bends connecting rods with cracks pistons. You need to pull out the glowplugs to get the oil out, or, just let it set for about 24+ hours. After a tractor has been on it's side for any amount of time you need to turn the engine with a socket instead of cranking it with the starter. The starter has more than enough torque to destroy the engine.
I’ve seen those 3 cylinder Yanmar engines on the online market for around $1500 - $2000 if you wrecked something while trying to start it w/o draining the cylinders first.
Just use the decompressor and crank it over......oh that's right only quality Diesel's come with that feature . Go Belarus 😊 looks like a glorified little tykes ha ha
Repeating educational comment from prior video: I was requested by the John Deere service manager to pass on the information: never try to restart your tractor while it’s flipped over or once it’s righted if it’s been flipped over. The starter is more than powerful enough to bend the piston rods and crack the pistons, which, as the oil has likely crept into the combustion chamber while it is on its side, will happen and cause Hydro lock! Sorry, I didn’t see you sooner and warn you before you tried in the next video! I hope repairs weren’t too severe. Best regards, a fellow 1025R owner.
Thanks. Good lesson. Fortunately, I didn't damage anything. I ended up pulling the injectors and blowing out the oil. It's running fine now. I skated past disaster I guess.
All you folks making fun of dude need to chill. Tell me you’ve never made a bad mistake or done something stupid. At least he had the guts to put his mistake out there for the rest of us to learn from it.
Agreed. Not enough weight - low on the machine. On a 2600 # rig - filling the tires with fluid is the only way to stick it down to ground. And leave the diesel for a day. Pull the injectors and then hit the starter to blow out the oil. The oil is crankcase oil - running into the cyl's. If you keep hitting the starter you will just break stuff.
Always count your blessings. I am glad to see that No one was hurt. It might be difficult to stomach the repair bill but that is nothing compared to serious injury.
Fortunately, it only cost me an hour or so of labor to pull the injectors and blow out the oil. Didn't even leave a scratch. Still, I was blessed to not get hurt.
Good recovery video. As a 1025R owner myself, I have nightmares about things like that happening to me. By the way the tractor was sideways on an incline and the way the front wheels are pointing, I have a pretty good idea on how this happened. However, I look forward to your next debriefing video about this accident.
I found my 1025R is one of the most top-heavy tractors I've ever used. And I suspect its partly due to the small tire size and narrow width. I see the youtube channel Good Tractor Works has a kit to double the rear tires which in my opinion would make this unit much more stable. I haven't done that on mine, yet as I rarely use it and live on relatively flat land. There are some hills on the side of the road where I will not take the tractor running parallel with the road. I have another unit I use for that area as it's much more stable and safe. John Deere did not take into account the inherent instability in the design of the 1025R. If I had it to do over I'd have got a Kioti instead.
I love that channel, and I've seen that episode! I also watch Tractor Time with Tim. Both of those are great channels for learning the right way to do things. I'm thinking about making a video on just steep of an incline you can in fact drive sideways on. Might be fun to test the limits of what the 1025r can do. I mean, I've already rolled the tractor, so why not! lol
Glad no one got hurt. Please review how to safely conduct winching operations when you get the chance. That must have been an adrenaline pumper for you. Losing control and sliding down sideways or rolling over can be very deadly. Wish you the best of luck
So, because my winch is 12000lbs and the tractor weighs maybe 3500, and I wasn't lifting, only tilting it, I didn't feel much tension on the line to worry about it snapping and hitting me. That said, it was actually my first time using that winch. I had only recently installed it. I'm curious what specific issue (besides where I was standing) you are referring to. Always happy to learn!
@@mymorristribe standing with your hands on the winch line (even a synthetic line) while winching is just a bad idea, you also walked around and put yourself in a really bad position had the line snapped before you got it back on it's wheels. We know it's a little tractor but it's big enough to kill you if it fell again.
When the cable went in tension no one had to be within fifty ft, especially that teen ages, learn about safety mats to kill a possible break. Please get 5he teen out of there, just no reason for him to Ethan close.3500lbs can kill
@@mymorristribe Ya Man, nice snatch block set up and anchor point. You can NEVER trust a connector, cable end etc. ! Simply putting snow tire chains, coats, floor mats draped over the cable line in several places will "DROP" that cable dead to the ground if a break occurs. Otherwise........that cable can turn into a 'lethal Bull Whip' that can kill 100' away if enough force is exerted during the lift or pull. Way too many people get killed or limbs severed in this manner and all it takes is a few items draped over the cable. Next time, don't forget!
Gonna have to let tractor sit for quite a while.. tractor was on its side, the oil seapped into the combustion chamber and the oil‘s locking it up, so you got let the oil slowly drain back into the block or you might have to pull the injectors out crank it over to clear it out..
Thankfully, no one was hurt. JD says to wear your seatbelt. I chose not to and to bail. I can say that the ROPS did work well to keep the tractor from rolling, so if I had been belted in, I would have been fine too.
How to almost flip it back over correctly, shy of nothing stopping it from moving or the strap from decapitating you if it broke. But, great tutorial on how to hydro lock a very expensive little diesel and bend, break or warp almost every moving part in it. All of which could have been prevented with about 10 minutes of work with common hand tools!
eh, it's a 13000lb winch righting a 3000lb tractor. Nothing was going to snap. But, you are right about the hydrolock issue. I had never heard of that before. It took me an hour to pull the 3 injectors, turn over the engine, blow oil all over my driveway (lol....more learning occurred there) and put it all back together. I've put about 350hrs on the tractor since then and it's been fine. Hope you were entertained. Cheers!
@@mymorristribe Never, ever, trust a winch! I don't care what it's rated at! Especially, the cables. They snap all the time on people. They should be replaced periodically, but people never do it. They shouldn't have steel cables, but usually do. You needed some weight on the cable itself to prevent it from decapitating you if the cable snapped. I may not seem likely, but it does happen, quite a bit. Even just throwing some floor mats across the cable can arrest its travel enough to prevent death.
If you don’t wanna let it sit for couple days just turn it over with a socket snd rachet before cranking it. It will probably smoke like crazy but it’s better then busting pistons.
Come on guys cut him some slack, 90% of a tractor owner wouldn't of said a word about laying it over and this guy posts a video. Glad only thing hurt was his pride!
That pulley setup offered no mechanical advantage any more than pulling straight from the winch to the tractor would. A 2:1 mechanical advantage could have been achieved by fixing one end to the tree, mounting the pulley on the tractor, and pulling from the other end with the winch.
True. It's a 12000lb winch, tilting a 3500lb tractor. I only used that pulley to redirect the line since I could get my truck in a better position. But, I have recently watched some videos on snatch blocks configured correctly to multiply pulling power. Can't wait to need to try that....lol.
Hey Jonathan, In my opinion you did a great job. You planned ahead and had what was needed to pull that tractor up. The big tree was in the right spot to correctly use a snatch block to pull higher so tractor didn't slide towards dirt pile creating a bigger problem. You thought things through to attach straps correctly so cables, tractor etc. never were under stiff loads and nothing was bent or broke. Good job. I think most didn't notice the big pile of dirt and the camera certainly doesn't show how steep things really are. Most wouldn't have the guts to show the video and probably several have learned something here. Ignore the haters sitting in their recliner and thanks for posting.
You had me scared. The tree pulley should have been at its base. You risk toppling the tree. Do not stand near the cable or straps. Be well off to the sides. Too much energy gets stored in things under tension. Put a blanket over it to lessen the chance of whipping around. This is a what not to do video. Don't tie to rops like you did either tie it properly or let it move. You have a " knot" that can slip. That makes it very dangerous. Glad it worked out for you. On a positive note chains on the tires is a very good idea.
Just came across this. Glad you are OK. Would have been a good time to grease main drive shaft and change main fuel filter - both a pain when on the wheels. Did you ride it over with the seatbelt on (per instruction manual) or jump?
me follow safety instructions? lol...nope, I didn't trust the ROPS before this roll-over, so I always planned to jump. I did jump that time, and made it ok, but having been through this, I can confirm that had I been seat-belted in, it would have been safer. Maybe, more painful, but definitely safer.
That Dodge was plenty enough to upright that machine. A lot of aggravation in pulling winch line and what not to me. Upside I guess is its right side up. Glad nothing got damaged when you tried to start it.
It wouldn't run/start while tipped due to hydrolocking. Had to pull the injectors and blow out the oil on top of the cylinders to get it to start again.
Well know it all I hope you learned a valuable lesson here. It is obvious with the bucket up in the air uneven ground it is obvious why it tipped over !!! YOU NEVER run those small tractors around loaded or unloaded up in the air !!!!! It raises the center of gravity and the long lift arms gives more leverage. widen out your tires and LOWER THE DAMN BUCKET when traveling around, Keep your hand on the up/down hydrolic lever and IF the tractor seems tippy shove the hydrolic handle forward to lower the bucket FAST. you are lucky to have survived !!!
Those are all great recommendations! In my case, I was using the bucket to tamp down a pile of dirt that I was using as a flood barrier. So, I was moving back and forth with my bucket resting out forward on top of the pile. Rear wheel on the up-hill side hit a dirt clod or rock which was just enough of a jolt to start it tipping. I was already on a slope at or past the Deere recommendations. But, if safety was #1, I wouldn't be out there in the first place.
From tractor sitting on its side you may have a little bit of oil in one of your cylinders best way to cure that is to turn the motor over backwards by hand two revolutions
I'm not sure how to do that. I ended up pulling the injectors and blowing out the oil by cranking the engine over a few times. It's all back to normal now.
Waste? I pulled the injectors, blew out the oil, and it purrs just fine. There's not even a scratch on the plastic. John Deere makes some good tractors!
engine not gonna sieze from tipping over. would deff check oil though before starting it. sounded like a dead battery or lose connection maybe from tipping over
I think an outrigger that is triggered by angle could be a good accessory. Small wheel on end would keep it from digging in. Manual spring loaded outrigger could be deployed if you are getting nervous!
There is a fence in the way. I would have had to put my truck on my neighbor's property which I didn't want to do. The whole recovery only took 10 min.
Never try starting an engine that’s just been flipped back over ! Oil will have got on top of the pistons ! Have to remove glow plugs and get the cylinders cleared. Hope it’s ok ! Be safe !
Sorry about that. I'm not really a youtuber; I just upload when something is interesting. I pulled the injectors, blew out the oil, and it runs like new. The only damage was a in the support mech for the seat. Part of the metal structure cracked, and I welded it back good as new. Nothing else was damaged. I put another 200 hours on it plowing snow this past winter. I'll make an update video in the next month or so.
One things fer 'gol darn certain! I'm glad I clicked on this video in my yt feed! Being a new diesel owner for only 35 days now............I had NO idea that EVERY Guy on YT but Me..............KNOWS About hydraulicing a Tractor once uprighted from a Rollover Accident! You would think every damn tom dick and harry that visited this site MUST HAVE ROLLED A DAMN TRACTOR!!!!!! Get this, the crankcase oil will enter the cylinder, a liquid does not compress, therefore don't bother opening the hood to look for anything else? Honey, if ya roll the car on the way to work, make sure and lock the doors, just pick it back up the next day so ya know, the oil has a chance to do it's thingy..........LMFAO!
lol...hydrolocking was news to me. But, I pulled the injectors, turned over the engine and blew out the oil, and now it's perfect. I just installed the hydrosplus turbo kit too!
I think because the blade was angled and the 3pt hitch stabilizer gizmos were a bit loose, there was extra play, and it didn't stop the roll-over. Mostly the reason is because I was using it aggressively on a slope. I live in the mountains, and well, couch life isn't for me. :)
Bucket was low, but I was operating sideways on a slope with very rough terrain. I have both rear tires filled with -20 degree windshield wiper fluid. I believe my "uphill" rear tire hit a rock or a dirt clod and that was enough to bump me sideways. It was kind of slow like a teeter-totter. Either way, I was definitely pushing past safe limits. Frankly, that's kind of my style in everything I do.
@@mymorristribe Understood, had a PU truck snow plow (650#) under my bucket MF GC 1723 about 4" off the level ground, stepped on the floor board grabbed the steering wheel and lifted my rear wheel off the ground, had I been further in the air with that plow it would have fell right over, there was no warning signs when I lifted the plow straight up. That's a long lever when that bucket loader frame is all the way up in the air.
@@SouthernGround Nice! The adrenalin rush comes included with pretty much any sub-compact tractor. I'm installing hydrosplus turbo kit and high flow pump on my 1025R, so now I can really get into trouble!
The tires are filled with fluid and it has a 400lb back blade on it. Ballast was not the issue. My driving sideways on a sketchy pile of dirt was. lol I'm kind of a daredevil, so I'm sure this won't be the last time as I live on a hill.
12000lb winch tilting a 3500lb tractor. Barely any tension on the line, so I considered that safe. It's what I had. But, yeah, if textbook safety if your main priority in life, I don't recommend learning from any of my videos. My risk tolerance is pretty high! Some times it goes badly too, and I'm not afraid to show that. But, I love a good adrenaline rush....reference my mountain biking videos.
@@mymorristribe that's not text book that common sense safety ever see a cable cut a man's head off I didn't think so sad is your doing stupid shit so every young man or older can can see it I call that stupidity
I wasn't really sure where to pull from. There was nowhere on the frame, high enough that I could grab on. I'm guessing JD has some recommendations on this, but as you can see, my solution worked just fine.
Sorry, I wasn't filming at the time. See that pile of dirt in front of the tractor. I was driving back and forth up it to pack it in in preparation for a flash flood that comes that way. I guess I got too sideways while up on the mound and it just tipped.
This sucks. I feel your pain. I didn't dumpy 2025 over, but a week after I got it, and being new to the controls, I drove mine up the back of my pickup, thus damaging the tailgate of my truck with the bucket. I tried to lay the bucket just onto the tailgate so I could get at a load of paving stones easier. I drifted a little too close to the tailgate, and not being used to the forward /reverse, and brake pedals, hit what I thought was the brake. Muscle memory from driving took over. I hit the forward pedal by mistake and the tractor drove right up the bumper. The bucket lifted the tailgate up. I quickly figured things out and backed off. Luckily no damage to the tractor. Had to replace the tailgate though. I learned a valuable lesson that day. Thankfully no injuries and that's the main thing. Shit hsppens.
It could have been. I was not wearing my seatbelt, so I had to bail off quick! I jumped clear as it rolled, so no biggie. Frankly, I didn't trust the rops to do its job. I do now. It held up just fine. I highly recommend using the seatbelt and using the ROPS if working on a hill.
Honestly, it was my first opportunity to use my new winch. Plus my kids were out there, so we were just having fun. The bucket was pressed pretty hard to the ground, so it really couldn't move. Tractor is running fine. I've installed the hydrosplus turbo since this event. I enjoy pushing things to their limits. Cheers!
eh, well, I live on a mountain side at 8500' feet. Danger comes with the territory if you want to use a tractor up here. That said, I have added some rear wheel spacers to maybe help.
@mymorristribe I hope that you didn't cut into the tree. Wire or rope can girdle a tree and since that is how water and nutrients move up the tree damaging the outer bark may kill the tree. Several boards (2X4's) or such will prevent damage to the tree.
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by that. It prevented the tractor from hitting anything plastic as well. You can tell there's any damage from this. Now, I did bail out instead of strapping in like the JD manual says to do. Either solution would have worked. If you aren't confident in your bailing skills, I'd highly recommend using the seatbelt.
I've been working my mountain since August. I hate seeing these roll over videos. I crawl when I'm working the incline. Also working on making flat areas to turn around and trying to level a path side to side to access a areas more safely. I call my ballast box my anchor.
Yep. I've been working for a few years in the mountains on much steeper slopes. What got me this time was simply that I got myself into a rush and I got sloppy. It is always unnerving though to be crawling sideways along a steep slope.
Yep, I was bummed that the auto-kill switch under the seat didn't kill the engine when I bailed off the machine. But, I cleaned out the cylinders and it's good as new now.
Good to know! That was actually the first time I used my winch which I had just installed a couple of weeks back. I've used it a lot now for various things, but I didn't really know about tightening a clevis pin correctly.
Bucket to high made a turn on a slope ie wheels up hill and flipped over. It's not hard to make it flip over I almost did it forking a stump instead of the stump going up the rear wheel went up in the air
How to do everything wrong and proudly film it for CZcams... dangerous tractor operation, followed by dangerous winching, followed by lets see if we can destroy the engine by immediately cranking a potentially hydro locked engine.
hmm, eventually I guess. If it was a really, really long jack. This process took me a few minutes. I'm also guessing that with maybe 5 strong guys, we could have tipped it upright....who knows.
Don't overlook the important fact that a Machine or a Gun doesn't actually kill, it's the human being that makes a bad decision, then puts' that bad decision into action. Without the 'humans' action', the circumstance can not happen. oo This concept repeats to infinity, oo. Even if the Tractor is a "Single-Speed-Manual Clutch"............or a "Full Automatic-Powershift-16 Speed"! The imperfect human element/action has to be present for the outcome to become deadly.................Ya, there's a difference.
My friends and I went on a three day beer bender and started to get hungry. I was lit up so we went to this place close by and while we waited I was reading this paper placemat in this one and a half star seafood restaurant outside of Pittsburgh and it said there might be burried treasure nearby. So I took my shirt off, cashed in my life savings, bought a John Deere, and commenced to digging. Only problem was that I have no idea how to operate a tractor, the placemat was a childs puzzle, we were shitfaced by now, and my drunk buddy recorded me doing all this dumb shit. You should have seen me trying to get it back on its tires after I rolled it over, we looked like a bunch of hammered monkeys humping a football but I have no shame in my game. I didn't even read the owners manual. Im just praying that he doesn't put it on CZcams or anything but good luck with your tractor and whatever situation you got going on over there.
Everything is relative. I'm into extreme biking, so compared to a 15ft drop on my mountain bike, using this tractor is fairly chill. But, as you can see, sometimes you do get an adrenaline rush on these sub-compacts! lol. Thanks for the comment.
@@mymorristribe I’m glad nobody got hurt. I spent a career mining coal in a deep mine. I’ve seen many accidents, several of them were fatals. I’m just saying that you are young and have a lifetime ahead of you. Just don’t take chances. Stop and think it out before you act. Take care of yourself.
This is a good example of poor customer training from the dealer unless it was borrowed by an untrained individual or the owner purchased it second hand. It may be a good idea to search for videos on proper tractor with front end loader operation. It's too bad to see these people having to take on a battle like this when it could be easily prevented.
Nah, I know the risks but frequently exceed manufacturer safety recommendations anyway to get the job done. 9 out 10 times, I get away with it, but it got me this time. Tractor is fine now though. Zero damage
I definitely push the limits of that tractor well beyond safe, factory specs for working on slopes. I'll do a video about how much of a slope that tractor can operate on, so people know the "true" (but very unsafe) limits. I enjoy pushing the limits in life.
I was working on the neighbors property. I didn't want to drive my pickup all over their property. The entire video is live and only 12 minutes, so it didn't take that long.
You are right. It was just a matter of where I could position my truck. Had that convenient tree not been there, I would have figured out where I could get my truck to get a straight shot at pulling. But, my property is a hillside and there was a fence where I originally wanted to park for a straight pull.
Dude you are way over thinking this😂😂😂 hook a chain to the loader frame and pull it back over. And also lucky you didn’t bend a rod trying to start it like that
Nah, you must not own a winch. I hadn't had a chance to use my new winch yet. If you get one, you'll also start winching all kinds of crap that isn't necessary. haha
All that rigging and snatch block ! WOW ! If u had a10,000lbs or 12,000lbs winch on the truck like is suppose to be, because the truck weighs nearly 8000 ! Maybe u should leave the dirt moving and vehicle rescue to the professionals !
The tree was big enough, in the right place and he had what was needed to do the snatch block to help right the tractor instead of sliding it towards the dirt pile creating a bigger problem. He thought things through very nicely and stood it up with little effort or damage. After all, he doesn't do this for a living. Good job until he attempted to start engine without considering fluids could be where they don't belong laying on it's side. Rods have been bent doing just that but he got very lucky. Hopefully others have learned something here and proud of the guy for posting this. Ignore the haters Jonathan you did well and learned something with no real damage done.
Trying to start a hydralocked engine bends connecting rods with cracks pistons. You need to pull out the glowplugs to get the oil out, or, just let it set for about 24+ hours. After a tractor has been on it's side for any amount of time you need to turn the engine with a socket instead of cranking it with the starter. The starter has more than enough torque to destroy the engine.
that is the right way of doing it ,that should have been done before trying to start it
your welcome
Yes that is true
I’ve seen those 3 cylinder Yanmar engines on the online market for around $1500 - $2000 if you wrecked something while trying to start it w/o draining the cylinders first.
Just use the decompressor and crank it over......oh that's right only quality Diesel's come with that feature . Go Belarus 😊 looks like a glorified little tykes ha ha
Repeating educational comment from prior video:
I was requested by the John Deere service manager to pass on the information: never try to restart your tractor while it’s flipped over or once it’s righted if it’s been flipped over. The starter is more than powerful enough to bend the piston rods and crack the pistons, which, as the oil has likely crept into the combustion chamber while it is on its side, will happen and cause Hydro lock!
Sorry, I didn’t see you sooner and warn you before you tried in the next video! I hope repairs weren’t too severe.
Best regards, a fellow 1025R owner.
Thanks. Good lesson. Fortunately, I didn't damage anything. I ended up pulling the injectors and blowing out the oil. It's running fine now. I skated past disaster I guess.
All you folks making fun of dude need to chill. Tell me you’ve never made a bad mistake or done something stupid. At least he had the guts to put his mistake out there for the rest of us to learn from it.
This is what happens when you have someone on a piece of equipment that has Absolutely no idea what they are doing.
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Agree 💯!
Agreed. Not enough weight - low on the machine. On a 2600 # rig - filling the tires with fluid is the only way to stick it down to ground. And leave the diesel for a day. Pull the injectors and then hit the starter to blow out the oil. The oil is crankcase oil - running into the cyl's. If you keep hitting the starter you will just break stuff.
But if it happened to you , it could be justified????, things like that happen, it's a learning curve.
It was so bad it knocked his shirt off. 😐
Always count your blessings. I am glad to see that No one was hurt. It might be difficult to stomach the repair bill but that is nothing compared to serious injury.
Fortunately, it only cost me an hour or so of labor to pull the injectors and blow out the oil. Didn't even leave a scratch. Still, I was blessed to not get hurt.
So pleased you didn't get hurt brother. Peace be with you.
Good recovery video. As a 1025R owner myself, I have nightmares about things like that happening to me. By the way the tractor was sideways on an incline and the way the front wheels are pointing, I have a pretty good idea on how this happened. However, I look forward to your next debriefing video about this accident.
blade too wide too
@@slyknowledged NOPE !!!! Front end loader was raise too high caused the tipping on uneven ground !!!
I found my 1025R is one of the most top-heavy tractors I've ever used. And I suspect its partly due to the small tire size and narrow width. I see the youtube channel Good Tractor Works has a kit to double the rear tires which in my opinion would make this unit much more stable. I haven't done that on mine, yet as I rarely use it and live on relatively flat land. There are some hills on the side of the road where I will not take the tractor running parallel with the road. I have another unit I use for that area as it's much more stable and safe. John Deere did not take into account the inherent instability in the design of the 1025R. If I had it to do over I'd have got a Kioti instead.
I love that channel, and I've seen that episode! I also watch Tractor Time with Tim. Both of those are great channels for learning the right way to do things. I'm thinking about making a video on just steep of an incline you can in fact drive sideways on. Might be fun to test the limits of what the 1025r can do. I mean, I've already rolled the tractor, so why not! lol
A kioti isn't any more stable. All subcompact are narrow and top heavy....
This would be a great time to lubricate the joint on the drive shaft. I'd take full advantage of the situation if it was my 1025R
Haha. Great idea! So much easier than getting under there with a needle tip on my lube gun.
@@mymorristribe turn the shaft to about 7:00 and you can get on then.
Glad no one got hurt.
Please review how to safely conduct winching operations when you get the chance.
That must have been an adrenaline pumper for you. Losing control and sliding down sideways or rolling over can be very deadly.
Wish you the best of luck
So, because my winch is 12000lbs and the tractor weighs maybe 3500, and I wasn't lifting, only tilting it, I didn't feel much tension on the line to worry about it snapping and hitting me. That said, it was actually my first time using that winch. I had only recently installed it. I'm curious what specific issue (besides where I was standing) you are referring to. Always happy to learn!
@@mymorristribe standing with your hands on the winch line (even a synthetic line) while winching is just a bad idea, you also walked around and put yourself in a really bad position had the line snapped before you got it back on it's wheels. We know it's a little tractor but it's big enough to kill you if it fell again.
When the cable went in tension no one had to be within fifty ft, especially that teen ages, learn about safety mats to kill a possible break. Please get 5he teen out of there, just no reason for him to Ethan close.3500lbs can kill
@@mymorristribe Ya Man, nice snatch block set up and anchor point. You can NEVER trust a connector, cable end etc. ! Simply putting snow tire chains, coats, floor mats draped over the cable line in several places will "DROP" that cable dead to the ground if a break occurs. Otherwise........that cable can turn into a 'lethal Bull Whip' that can kill 100' away if enough force is exerted during the lift or pull. Way too many people get killed or limbs severed in this manner and all it takes is a few items draped over the cable. Next time, don't forget!
@@snurb48 Draping something over the line is great idea. Never thought about that before.
Gonna have to let tractor sit for quite a while..
tractor was on its side, the oil seapped into the combustion chamber and the oil‘s locking it up, so you got let the oil slowly drain back into the block or you might have to pull the injectors out crank it over to clear it out..
Thanks. I sure do hope that's all it is.
I ended up pulling the injectors, cranking it over and blowing out all the oil. Put it back together, and now it runs like new.
There should be a law that before a equipment dealer gets to sell a person equipment like this the uh must pass a competency test. Seriously.
lucky kubotas are solid if they fliped wich ive seen before but starts right up
😂 amen
Even pros flip them.. all it takes is .. oh look a squirrel
You made it look easy. Thanks for the info to NOT start it soon after its been righted.
nice work.tractor looks good,nobody hurt.larry
Thankfully, no one was hurt. JD says to wear your seatbelt. I chose not to and to bail. I can say that the ROPS did work well to keep the tractor from rolling, so if I had been belted in, I would have been fine too.
How to almost flip it back over correctly, shy of nothing stopping it from moving or the strap from decapitating you if it broke. But, great tutorial on how to hydro lock a very expensive little diesel and bend, break or warp almost every moving part in it. All of which could have been prevented with about 10 minutes of work with common hand tools!
eh, it's a 13000lb winch righting a 3000lb tractor. Nothing was going to snap. But, you are right about the hydrolock issue. I had never heard of that before. It took me an hour to pull the 3 injectors, turn over the engine, blow oil all over my driveway (lol....more learning occurred there) and put it all back together. I've put about 350hrs on the tractor since then and it's been fine. Hope you were entertained. Cheers!
@@mymorristribe Never, ever, trust a winch! I don't care what it's rated at! Especially, the cables. They snap all the time on people. They should be replaced periodically, but people never do it. They shouldn't have steel cables, but usually do. You needed some weight on the cable itself to prevent it from decapitating you if the cable snapped. I may not seem likely, but it does happen, quite a bit. Even just throwing some floor mats across the cable can arrest its travel enough to prevent death.
If you don’t wanna let it sit for couple days just turn it over with a socket snd rachet before cranking it. It will probably smoke like crazy but it’s better then busting pistons.
Come on guys cut him some slack, 90% of a tractor owner wouldn't of said a word about laying it over and this guy posts a video.
Glad only thing hurt was his pride!
Thanks for the comment. My point was only to entertain. Everyone knows that people love a good fail. lol
obviously he is NOT smart enough to figure that out !!!
I would have posted a video each time I flipped one but I was doing some sketchy shit lol so I had better things on my mind 😂
That pulley setup offered no mechanical advantage any more than pulling straight from the winch to the tractor would. A 2:1 mechanical advantage could have been achieved by fixing one end to the tree, mounting the pulley on the tractor, and pulling from the other end with the winch.
True. It's a 12000lb winch, tilting a 3500lb tractor. I only used that pulley to redirect the line since I could get my truck in a better position. But, I have recently watched some videos on snatch blocks configured correctly to multiply pulling power. Can't wait to need to try that....lol.
Your talking about a guy that just got into 1 situation he knew nothing about!
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Hey Jonathan, In my opinion you did a great job. You planned ahead and had what was needed to pull that tractor up. The big tree was in the right spot to correctly use a snatch block to pull higher so tractor didn't slide towards dirt pile creating a bigger problem. You thought things through to attach straps correctly so cables, tractor etc. never were under stiff loads and nothing was bent or broke. Good job. I think most didn't notice the big pile of dirt and the camera certainly doesn't show how steep things really are. Most wouldn't have the guts to show the video and probably several have learned something here. Ignore the haters sitting in their recliner and thanks for posting.
You had me scared. The tree pulley should have been at its base. You risk toppling the tree. Do not stand near the cable or straps. Be well off to the sides. Too much energy gets stored in things under tension. Put a blanket over it to lessen the chance of whipping around. This is a what not to do video. Don't tie to rops like you did either tie it properly or let it move. You have a " knot" that can slip. That makes it very dangerous. Glad it worked out for you. On a positive note chains on the tires is a very good idea.
Looks like a good opportunity to invest in wheel spacers and wheel weights. It really makes a big difference.
I have fluid in the wheels (-20 degree washer fluid), but yeah, wheel weights and maybe spacers are on my list.
projet just lower the front loader when running around. dangerous !!!
Dam dude you got to be a engineer to over think such a simple recovery
stevecraig nope just a bad case of OCD !!!! over thinking !!!
Nope....just a dude with a brand new 13,000 winch that I hadn't had a chance to use before. lol
My name is also Johnathan Morris, and I see you have the Morris curse too.
Oil seats past thr piston rings fills the too and gets stuck. Pull plugs then crank over it will spray the oil out or turn it over by hand
That ended up being the solution. I pulled the injectors and turned it over and it blew out the oil. Works fine now.
Just came across this. Glad you are OK. Would have been a good time to grease main drive shaft and change main fuel filter - both a pain when on the wheels.
Did you ride it over with the seatbelt on (per instruction manual) or jump?
me follow safety instructions? lol...nope, I didn't trust the ROPS before this roll-over, so I always planned to jump. I did jump that time, and made it ok, but having been through this, I can confirm that had I been seat-belted in, it would have been safer. Maybe, more painful, but definitely safer.
That Dodge was plenty enough to upright that machine. A lot of aggravation in pulling winch line and what not to me. Upside I guess is its right side up. Glad nothing got damaged when you tried to start it.
In fairness, I just bought and installed the winch, and this was my first excuse to use it! It's all about the fun.
The guy with no shirt reminds me of randy from trailer park boys
Just use the bucket I've turned a 1023e over more than once and never got off the tractor lol
It wouldn't run/start while tipped due to hydrolocking. Had to pull the injectors and blow out the oil on top of the cylinders to get it to start again.
Well know it all I hope you learned a valuable lesson here. It is obvious with the bucket up in the air uneven ground it is obvious why it tipped over !!! YOU NEVER run those small tractors around loaded or unloaded up in the air !!!!! It raises the center of gravity and the long lift arms gives more leverage. widen out your tires and LOWER THE DAMN BUCKET when traveling around, Keep your hand on the up/down hydrolic lever and IF the tractor seems tippy shove the hydrolic handle forward to lower the bucket FAST. you are lucky to have survived !!!
Those are all great recommendations! In my case, I was using the bucket to tamp down a pile of dirt that I was using as a flood barrier. So, I was moving back and forth with my bucket resting out forward on top of the pile. Rear wheel on the up-hill side hit a dirt clod or rock which was just enough of a jolt to start it tipping. I was already on a slope at or past the Deere recommendations. But, if safety was #1, I wouldn't be out there in the first place.
Trying to crank a hydro locked engine is a good way to bend a connecting rod. Hope you figured it out.
Thanks. You are right. Based on comments, I ended up pulling the injectors, turning the engine over, blowing out the oil, and now it runs just fine.
@@mymorristribe easy repair. Glad you got it running again.
I might be about 2 weeks late but. you got it up right. That's all that matters. I'd like to know if it was hydrolocked or not. Just curious
It was. I pulled the injectors, cranked it over and blew out the oil. Put it all back, and it runs perfectly.
From tractor sitting on its side you may have a little bit of oil in one of your cylinders best way to cure that is to turn the motor over backwards by hand two revolutions
I'm not sure how to do that. I ended up pulling the injectors and blowing out the oil by cranking the engine over a few times. It's all back to normal now.
What a waste of money! Safety always.
Waste? I pulled the injectors, blew out the oil, and it purrs just fine. There's not even a scratch on the plastic. John Deere makes some good tractors!
engine not gonna sieze from tipping over. would deff check oil though before starting it. sounded like a dead battery or lose connection maybe from tipping over
As others suggested, it was hydrolocked.
Oil on top of the pistons
The stability is better with front loader as low as you can get it. If it gets unsteady lower it all the way.
I think an outrigger that is triggered by angle could be a good accessory. Small wheel on end would keep it from digging in. Manual spring loaded outrigger could be deployed if you are getting nervous!
Don't try to start , oil in the cyl. Pull injectors and spin over
. Could bend conn. Rods !
You were right. I did exactly that, and it's running great now. Thanks!
That was a very light pull. No need for the pulley setup. Why didn't you point the truck at the tractor about 15 feet away and winch directly?
There is a fence in the way. I would have had to put my truck on my neighbor's property which I didn't want to do. The whole recovery only took 10 min.
Good idea to throw a tarp , coat , or something over the cable so if it snaps it wont cut you in half
That is a great idea! In this case, my tractor weighs 3000lbs and the winch is rated for 13,000, but your point is still valid.
Like the blind leading the blind
Never try starting an engine that’s just been flipped back over ! Oil will have got on top of the pistons ! Have to remove glow plugs and get the cylinders cleared. Hope it’s ok ! Be safe !
So I learned. I ended up pulling the injectors turning over the engine and blowing oil out all over the place! lol. It's fine now.
Where is the update video? How’s the tractor doing now? Interesting situation.
Sorry about that. I'm not really a youtuber; I just upload when something is interesting. I pulled the injectors, blew out the oil, and it runs like new. The only damage was a in the support mech for the seat. Part of the metal structure cracked, and I welded it back good as new. Nothing else was damaged. I put another 200 hours on it plowing snow this past winter. I'll make an update video in the next month or so.
@@mymorristribe I feel you man. Thanks for this video.
Please keep everyone clear of that cable if it snaps by by
It's a 12k lb winch tipping a 3k lb tractor. I wasn't worried about that. Good advice though in general.
Good ole roll bar.
Half the time I forget and leave it down since it won't fit in my garage when it's up. But, it definitely did it's job this time!
Looks like a Red/Green skit.
....so you are sayin' it was entertaining? Cool! Thanks! ;)
One things fer 'gol darn certain! I'm glad I clicked on this video in my yt feed! Being a new diesel owner for only 35 days now............I had NO idea that EVERY Guy on YT but Me..............KNOWS About hydraulicing a Tractor once uprighted from a Rollover Accident! You would think every damn tom dick and harry that visited this site MUST HAVE ROLLED A DAMN TRACTOR!!!!!! Get this, the crankcase oil will enter the cylinder, a liquid does not compress, therefore don't bother opening the hood to look for anything else?
Honey, if ya roll the car on the way to work, make sure and lock the doors, just pick it back up the next day so ya know, the oil has a chance to do it's thingy..........LMFAO!
lol...hydrolocking was news to me. But, I pulled the injectors, turned over the engine and blew out the oil, and now it's perfect. I just installed the hydrosplus turbo kit too!
I'm surprised that with a rear blade it still rolled. Remember, no one ever got into trouble by just sitting on the couch.
I think because the blade was angled and the 3pt hitch stabilizer gizmos were a bit loose, there was extra play, and it didn't stop the roll-over. Mostly the reason is because I was using it aggressively on a slope. I live in the mountains, and well, couch life isn't for me. :)
But I also laid over a Case 305 with a land pride batwing and the boss man drove it out the ditch 😅😂
Pushin' the limits too eh! I see we're on the same page. lol
How high was your bucket in the air when you flipped it? Also do you have fluid in your rear tires?
Bucket was low, but I was operating sideways on a slope with very rough terrain. I have both rear tires filled with -20 degree windshield wiper fluid. I believe my "uphill" rear tire hit a rock or a dirt clod and that was enough to bump me sideways. It was kind of slow like a teeter-totter. Either way, I was definitely pushing past safe limits. Frankly, that's kind of my style in everything I do.
@@mymorristribe Understood, had a PU truck snow plow (650#) under my bucket MF GC 1723 about 4" off the level ground, stepped on the floor board grabbed the steering wheel and lifted my rear wheel off the ground, had I been further in the air with that plow it would have fell right over, there was no warning signs when I lifted the plow straight up. That's a long lever when that bucket loader frame is all the way up in the air.
@@SouthernGround Nice! The adrenalin rush comes included with pretty much any sub-compact tractor. I'm installing hydrosplus turbo kit and high flow pump on my 1025R, so now I can really get into trouble!
southernground the bucket was up when he righted the tractor, says all we need to know !!!
@@mymorristribe BULLSHIT !!! Your bucket was up high when you righted the tractor. tells us the truth !!!
One word…”ballast”
The tires are filled with fluid and it has a 400lb back blade on it. Ballast was not the issue. My driving sideways on a sketchy pile of dirt was. lol I'm kind of a daredevil, so I'm sure this won't be the last time as I live on a hill.
Sounds like it is hydraulic locked from being on it's side. Would not attempt to start without clearing cylinders.
So you think you needed all that and then you stand in front of the cable
12000lb winch tilting a 3500lb tractor. Barely any tension on the line, so I considered that safe. It's what I had. But, yeah, if textbook safety if your main priority in life, I don't recommend learning from any of my videos. My risk tolerance is pretty high! Some times it goes badly too, and I'm not afraid to show that. But, I love a good adrenaline rush....reference my mountain biking videos.
@@mymorristribe that's not text book that common sense safety ever see a cable cut a man's head off I didn't think so sad is your doing stupid shit so every young man or older can can see it I call that stupidity
If only someone would comment on clearing the oil from the cylinders... oh wait...
Fortunately, some did, and a google search later, I was ready to remove the injectors and blow out the oil. Problem solved! Thanks for your comment.
I would xall a wrecker. Cheaper at any price. You can do more damage righting it.
lol what? It was super simple to right it. Could have done it with 5 strong guys, but I wanted to play with my new winch.
pull on frame ?
I wasn't really sure where to pull from. There was nowhere on the frame, high enough that I could grab on. I'm guessing JD has some recommendations on this, but as you can see, my solution worked just fine.
I wanna see how it got there
Sorry, I wasn't filming at the time. See that pile of dirt in front of the tractor. I was driving back and forth up it to pack it in in preparation for a flash flood that comes that way. I guess I got too sideways while up on the mound and it just tipped.
Lucky to be alive id say.
You may want to let it sit up a little longer
motor is fluid locked oil leaked past the rings and locked the motor
Yep. You are correct. I pulled the injectors, cranked it over, and it's good to go now.
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This sucks. I feel your pain. I didn't dumpy 2025 over, but a week after I got it, and being new to the controls, I drove mine up the back of my pickup, thus damaging the tailgate of my truck with the bucket. I tried to lay the bucket just onto the tailgate so I could get at a load of paving stones easier. I drifted a little too close to the tailgate, and not being used to the forward /reverse, and brake pedals, hit what I thought was the brake. Muscle memory from driving took over. I hit the forward pedal by mistake and the tractor drove right up the bumper. The bucket lifted the tailgate up. I quickly figured things out and backed off. Luckily no damage to the tractor. Had to replace the tailgate though. I learned a valuable lesson that day. Thankfully no injuries and that's the main thing. Shit hsppens.
It sure does! But, I love working with my tractor anyway. Sounds like you do as well.
Ouch!
It could have been. I was not wearing my seatbelt, so I had to bail off quick! I jumped clear as it rolled, so no biggie. Frankly, I didn't trust the rops to do its job. I do now. It held up just fine. I highly recommend using the seatbelt and using the ROPS if working on a hill.
Some people should not mess with the unknown 😮 I have the same unit u need operator lessons for sure
sounds hydro-locked, stop trying to start it it you can bend or break the rods
Trying to start a hydro locked engine is not good
that looked like a really complicated way to get it flipped back over. and why didnt you lower the bucket? shouldnt need it started to do that.
Honestly, it was my first opportunity to use my new winch. Plus my kids were out there, so we were just having fun. The bucket was pressed pretty hard to the ground, so it really couldn't move. Tractor is running fine. I've installed the hydrosplus turbo since this event. I enjoy pushing things to their limits. Cheers!
It's hydraulic !!!!oil in the cylinders
its got oil in a cylinder due to it being on its side
Maybe they should have mandatory classes on basics forces of gravity.. next time don't drive sideways on a 80% grade... Lucky your alive
eh, well, I live on a mountain side at 8500' feet. Danger comes with the territory if you want to use a tractor up here. That said, I have added some rear wheel spacers to maybe help.
whos got the football
Cylinders are hydro locked due to oil
Yep. That's what happened. All fixed now.
Always flat strap trees.
A great idea. I just didn't have another strap at the time.
@mymorristribe I hope that you didn't cut into the tree. Wire or rope can girdle a tree and since that is how water and nutrients move up the tree damaging the outer bark may kill the tree. Several boards (2X4's) or such will prevent damage to the tree.
Atleast the ROPS did its thing. They walked away from the accident.
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by that. It prevented the tractor from hitting anything plastic as well. You can tell there's any damage from this. Now, I did bail out instead of strapping in like the JD manual says to do. Either solution would have worked. If you aren't confident in your bailing skills, I'd highly recommend using the seatbelt.
Sorry guy, you need more training.
Thanks. I'll try to roll it more often to get more practice. lol
I've been working my mountain since August. I hate seeing these roll over videos. I crawl when I'm working the incline. Also working on making flat areas to turn around and trying to level a path side to side to access a areas more safely. I call my ballast box my anchor.
Yep. I've been working for a few years in the mountains on much steeper slopes. What got me this time was simply that I got myself into a rush and I got sloppy. It is always unnerving though to be crawling sideways along a steep slope.
Thanks for sharing
How to seize any engine in 3,2,1
Yep, I was bummed that the auto-kill switch under the seat didn't kill the engine when I bailed off the machine. But, I cleaned out the cylinders and it's good as new now.
You don't ever tighten a clevis and leave it tight back it off half a turn
Good to know! That was actually the first time I used my winch which I had just installed a couple of weeks back. I've used it a lot now for various things, but I didn't really know about tightening a clevis pin correctly.
Just the fact that he calls it "an orange thing" is reason enough that these people shouldn't own a tractor
Bucket to high made a turn on a slope ie wheels up hill and flipped over. It's not hard to make it flip over I almost did it forking a stump instead of the stump going up the rear wheel went up in the air
Y'all need to learn from book or at least from watching some recovery videos.
Read up on Ballast, stay safe.
Tires are filled with fluid and I had a 6 ft blade on the rear. Operating on a slope and in a hurry still got me though.
Its strange how many times the slow way ends up being faster, rushing always gets me in a jam too.
How to do everything wrong and proudly film it for CZcams... dangerous tractor operation, followed by dangerous winching, followed by lets see if we can destroy the engine by immediately cranking a potentially hydro locked engine.
Hopefully you were a drama major in college. You clearly have a knack for it. ;)
@@mymorristribe LOL... how'd I know you wouldn't be able to handle the truth without getting all uppity 🤣
I wouldnt turn that key again. Lol it's gotta be hydrolocked.
Yep. I didn't know about that at the time. Ended up pulling the injectors, blowing out the oil, and now it's fine again.
Of you had taken a jack and jacked it up evenly it would eventually stood it right back up .
hmm, eventually I guess. If it was a really, really long jack. This process took me a few minutes. I'm also guessing that with maybe 5 strong guys, we could have tipped it upright....who knows.
@@mymorristribe yeah they are called high lift jacks or some refer to them as farm jacks
This equipment in the hands of the wrong person can be deadly. No different from a gun. No difference.
lol....as a Marine who's done his fair share of shootin'...I find you comment comical. Thanks.
Quite a bit of difference actually...
Don't overlook the important fact that a Machine or a Gun doesn't actually kill, it's the human being that makes a bad decision, then puts' that bad decision into action. Without the 'humans' action', the circumstance can not happen. oo
This concept repeats to infinity, oo. Even if the Tractor is a "Single-Speed-Manual Clutch"............or a "Full Automatic-Powershift-16 Speed"! The imperfect human element/action has to be present for the outcome to become deadly.................Ya, there's a difference.
It should be illegal for some people to own a tractor. Stupidity is in huge abundance.
My friends and I went on a three day beer bender and started to get hungry. I was lit up so we went to this place close by and while we waited I was reading this paper placemat in this one and a half star seafood restaurant outside of Pittsburgh and it said there might be burried treasure nearby. So I took my shirt off, cashed in my life savings, bought a John Deere, and commenced to digging. Only problem was that I have no idea how to operate a tractor, the placemat was a childs puzzle, we were shitfaced by now, and my drunk buddy recorded me doing all this dumb shit. You should have seen me trying to get it back on its tires after I rolled it over, we looked like a bunch of hammered monkeys humping a football but I have no shame in my game. I didn't even read the owners manual. Im just praying that he doesn't put it on CZcams or anything but good luck with your tractor and whatever situation you got going on over there.
lol, you only wish you had a John Deere. Thanks for the hate. It made me laugh a little.
Those small tractors are dangerous.
Everything is relative. I'm into extreme biking, so compared to a 15ft drop on my mountain bike, using this tractor is fairly chill. But, as you can see, sometimes you do get an adrenaline rush on these sub-compacts! lol. Thanks for the comment.
@@mymorristribe I’m glad nobody got hurt. I spent a career mining coal in a deep mine. I’ve seen many accidents, several of them were fatals. I’m just saying that you are young and have a lifetime ahead of you. Just don’t take chances. Stop and think it out before you act. Take care of yourself.
This is a good example of poor customer training from the dealer unless it was borrowed by an untrained individual or the owner purchased it second hand. It may be a good idea to search for videos on proper tractor with front end loader operation. It's too bad to see these people having to take on a battle like this when it could be easily prevented.
Nah, I know the risks but frequently exceed manufacturer safety recommendations anyway to get the job done. 9 out 10 times, I get away with it, but it got me this time. Tractor is fine now though. Zero damage
If that line were to snap, it would have cut him right in two.
3000lb tractor and 13,000lb winch.
Not really very smart standing by the cable
Your Battery, check it.
And now it’s hydro locked
Yep. Pulled the injectors, cranked it over, blew out the oil, now it purrs like new again. John Deers knows how to build a tractor!
Looks like he’s better at recovery than tractor driving ?
I definitely push the limits of that tractor well beyond safe, factory specs for working on slopes. I'll do a video about how much of a slope that tractor can operate on, so people know the "true" (but very unsafe) limits. I enjoy pushing the limits in life.
Dude not to sound like a ass. You clearly don't need to instruct anyone on tractor safety or recovery
Hire it done you'll live longer.
Why didn't you just pull it over with your pickup, a lot less pissing around.
I was working on the neighbors property. I didn't want to drive my pickup all over their property. The entire video is live and only 12 minutes, so it didn't take that long.
Why use the tree and snatch block?
And not just use the truck and winch ?
You didn't gain anything by doing that.
You are right. It was just a matter of where I could position my truck. Had that convenient tree not been there, I would have figured out where I could get my truck to get a straight shot at pulling. But, my property is a hillside and there was a fence where I originally wanted to park for a straight pull.
Clad one got killed
Not to be rude but there are several things you did that were not the safest technique. Please be careful!
Dude you are way over thinking this😂😂😂 hook a chain to the loader frame and pull it back over. And also lucky you didn’t bend a rod trying to start it like that
Nah, you must not own a winch. I hadn't had a chance to use my new winch yet. If you get one, you'll also start winching all kinds of crap that isn't necessary. haha
All that rigging and snatch block ! WOW ! If u had a10,000lbs or 12,000lbs winch on the truck like is suppose to be, because the truck weighs nearly 8000 ! Maybe u should leave the dirt moving and vehicle rescue to the professionals !
Looks like I recovered my own tractor just fine. But, you do you.
@@mymorristribe I for one most likely would not have been recovering it in the first place !
The tree was big enough, in the right place and he had what was needed to do the snatch block to help right the tractor instead of sliding it towards the dirt pile creating a bigger problem. He thought things through very nicely and stood it up with little effort or damage. After all, he doesn't do this for a living. Good job until he attempted to start engine without considering fluids could be where they don't belong laying on it's side. Rods have been bent doing just that but he got very lucky. Hopefully others have learned something here and proud of the guy for posting this. Ignore the haters Jonathan you did well and learned something with no real damage done.