+TheDarthDestruktor I felt it was more of a homage to Wrath of Khan, rather than a rip off. A tip of the hat, if you will, while still retaining the idea that this is a new branch in the Star Trek series by switching Kirk and Spock's roles.
Even after 9 1/2 years, I still come back to this theme. I just love it. I see why people dislike the movie but it still makes me sad. I enjoyed it and really like what they did with Khan.
It's amazing how such an evil character can have such a beautiful theme song, specially that beautiful piano part. Makes you feel like Khan has a point in doing what he does and makes you like him.
@Darth Cameron I agree, although there was an underlying "smoothness" to CumberKhan. The way he spoke, his posture when he both sat and stood, and his chilling glare were great.
Khan is a villain I can connect with. I really connect with him on the level of doing anything to protect your family, and doing everything to save them. I really like how he's not a villain just to be a villain, he has a backstory and a motive. It's not like he hated Starfleet right from the start - that was Marcus's fault - he just wanted his family back. Yes his methods were extreme, but to his mind it was the only way to get his crew, his family, back safely. Khan is my favorite villain of all time, and always will be.
+sumo73 I like both versions of Khan. Its amazing to see this version though I wish they had gotten an actual Indian to play him both times. But he's so bad ass. A true warrior. To bad we didn't see Marla McGivers
+Juan Catalan In the comic book 'Star Trek Khan' it shows the Khan having facial surgery to disguise who he really was. Of course this was released after the movie came out but does try to explain things. I think it's just easier for Hollywood to have a white British guy be the stereotype bad guy in films. The worry was if you put an Indian guy in to play the bad guy people will deem it as racist. Strange since they put a black British guy in Star Trek Beyond, Idris Elba. If you watch the first Star Trek reboot film back in 2009 almost the very first face you see on screen is of Captain Richard Robau played by Faran Tahir. It shows that true progression has been achieved in the future. Anyway, what I'm saying is I agree with you. It's a shame that Hollywood didn't look to Bollywood either (Shah Rukh Khan, Ajay Devgn...) for someone to play Khan but there you go.
But at what cost? Khan put that poor man in a terrible position. Either watch his daughter die or help him blow up a Starfleet facility in exchange for curing her.
Star Trek never really had much of an iconic villain that Star Wars had, like Darth Vader for example. Yeah, there's the Klingons and the Borg, but when Khan first made his MAJOR villainous role in Wrath of Khan, Star Trek kind of exploded there. This movie brought him back, and even though he is much different from the original, it still gives no doubt that Khan IS Star Trek's villain.
Except theres no history between him and Kirk.. no Murder.. No Betrayal.. No dead Wives.. no death of his people slowly at the hands of starvation and brain eating slugs.. while a super genius super physique can do nothing.. while the only man to beat him receives promotion and adulation.. no "let lying dogs lay" lesson concerning the SS Botany Bay.. No Polarized ideologies based on the same crux point.. No Moby Dick..and no hints of mythos and edifice inthe characters and the perfect analogy to Moby Dick.. No Eugenics wars.. No 30 million dead... No 25% of earth under his dictatorial boot heel.. No scarred bodies, no Idian heritage.. no Sikh ideology.. No lessons in Age.. and Parting Ways.. No 4 movies in a row, bringing a character back to life.. 4 movies to regain Spocks Katra.. (just 3 minutes and a Tribble ) No ultimate Sacrifice by Khan.. No Spitting last breaths at thee.... so im not quite sure what hes on about when he hollars "I am Khan" like anyone in that reboot would know.. or care.. but he can jump around like Neo in the matrix.. so.. uhmm.. eehhhhh... yeeeeah.. uhhh..
Vinnie Hatcher for fuck's sake dude! It's just an opinion goddamn you! You remember those don't you?! Seriously dude, seek therapy for whatever trigger warning, micro aggression, safe space bullshit you're addicted to! And before you try to make ANY, and I mean ANY sarcastic or witty comebacks, read what you posted and answer me one question: HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THE OTHER GUY AN IDIOT SIMPLY FOR POSTING HIS OPINION?! And Trekkies wonder why they are sometimes considered THE most toxic as fuck, hard to please fandom!
And the fact that your profile pic is from a moronic cartoon like Spongebob, plus the fact that your retort sounds like an argument some prepubescent 8 year old would try to make, says it all. Seriously? I don't have a picture so that automatically invalidates my previous statement? I'm sure in some fucked up fantasy world, that rhetoric would make perfect sense, but the problem with that kind of thinking is..............THIS IS REALITY! If you're gonna go through the trouble of trying to troll anyone about any responses they make about whatever myopic, asinine comments you post, do yourself and the rest of the internet community a favor and learn how to do it right! Who knows, you just may get it right and win at life for once one day. There, did I respond fast enough for you this time?
This movie was amazing. I just wish they gave us MOREE of a background story to Khan. forreal I wouldn't even mind seeing as how he and the 72 others like Khan were engineered to be the "best" ultimately being condemned as war criminals. I wouldn't even mind if they turned that into a movie lol...
the backgrounds pretty much the same as in the original series, so if you watch the episode of that with Khan in, it goes into greater detail about his past there
Since the Eugenics Wars came before the timeline shift Khan's history largely remained the same. See TOS "Space Seed" and the film "Wrath of Khan" for more details.
I was actually rooting for Khan throughout the entire movie. Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate psychopathy and evil smart, but it just felt more logical for Khan to succeed in his endeavours.
demonblade001 He isn't like any other Admiral and I'd rather live in Soviet Russia than any of the country's Khan used to rule over. This guy was a monster.
This is not only a beautiful song, it has so much emotion that it almost makes my brain hurt. It makes you truly consider Khan's position; get a true grasp of what he feels. He is trying to save his family. His suffering has gone on for years. The raw emotion in this song is what truly makes it great.
And then of course when it gets more explosive and faster paced you start getting into the fact he's clearly unbalanced and insane. Willing to go above and beyond what many would consider rational.
@@williambeck2372 how many rats do we manipulate, maim, and kill in experimentation for the betterment of our own 'crew' (species)? Would we look much different than rats to Khan? Would he be wrong? And if so, when that rat tries to run or squiggle away and we simply put it back in its little gas chamber to study it, are we any better? "Insanity" in this case is relative
@@0rezinlv Although, Khan would still be evil regardless of what he was put through. Before going into hibernation he and his crew nearly did kill everyone in their time. :P
@@FirstLast-ys6xx yeah so true.... As Joker... The last movie of Phoenix let is consider that it was the sick society of Gotham who turned Arthur Fleck to Joker. And the sad thing is that there are people who share the same type of life. Ignored, humiliated over and over again... Joker is a villain but even an hero at the same time.
Besides Jerry Goldsmith's anthem for the Klingon Empire, who are not truly villainous, Star Trek hasn't really had a great theme for its bad guys... Until now when Trek's greatest bad guy returns... It's haunting and patient with only a hint of malice bubbling beneath the surface. Just like Khan!
+The Cinema Cowboy DS9 is the best. The characters and the writing were absoloutly brilliant! Although sisko was kind of a weak character but he still had some very good episodes
+Scotty SCL DS9 is like those fan made films ya see every once in a while. It's a series tied loosely to Trek lore and keeping with little of the other series feeling and charm. Conceptually it was a bad idea for a star TREK series as it was basically sitting at a space station with the most obnoxious characters in all of Star Trek. What's worse is that you are stuck between the religious zealots and all around assholes (bajorans) and the villains so lame they are often confused with a multitude of other aliens and reality show stars (cardasdians). it's a show with so little going it's way it makes repeated attempts at reminding you of Next Gen and needed a new series (Voyager) to uphold the mantel of actually trekking through stars with creative aliens and morality stories. Let's throw in the dominion war too because EXPLOSIONS (Trekkie irony is exceedingly apparent here when discussing the "greatness" of ds9). Ds9 is Star Trek for idiots.
Yeah... thats much better than that silly Herman Melville.. and its underlying theme of Polar Nemeses.. or its cautionary tale of Anger beyond Reason.. or the underlying theme of Tyrant men in command of Ships at sea, and how their crew pay for the captains lack of humility.. or the lesson to be learned about rage being ones primary motivator. This IS Khan "Aye, aye! it was that accursed white whale that razeed me; made a poor pegging lubber of me for ever and a day!" Then tossing both arms, with measureless imprecations he shouted out: "Aye, aye! and I’ll chase him round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames before I give him up. And this is what ye have shipped for, men! to chase that white whale on both sides of land, and over all sides of earth, till he spouts black blood and rolls fin out. What say ye, men, will ye splice hands on it, now? I think ye do look brave." or i guess.. "I feel his anger, despair, vengeance" is good to... yeah... absolutely commensurate... Fuck Moby Dick.
The first time I heard this in the cinema, I knew it wasn't the last time I heard it as it was so amazing. And here I am, listening to one of the best pieces of music I've ever heard.
I know that there are many that would disagree and even go as far as to call it sick, but I empathize extremely well with Benedict’s portrayal of Khan. I can’t help but feel nothing but pity and sadness for him throughout the entirety of the story. Although he may have shall we say, misplaced motives, he has a heart too; the torment and despair he experiences through the loss of those he considers to be his only family and the anger that wells within him is no less than a perfect veiled depiction of human nature itself. Love gives way to loss. Loss gives way to pain. Pain gives way to anger. And anger gives way to hate. The depiction of Khan in the film is no less than a work of genius direction and portrayal of human emotion in its most raw form.
This is a theme I want to hear again in one of the next movies of the new franchise... It is so deep and meeningful, it makes you remember Khan isn't a monster. He's not an evil man, even if he is uberly dangerous and a bit too resentful xD This melody is just incredible... I can't get it out of my head. A drop of despair, darkness and hate, mixed with a touch of bravery.
It tells you the filmmakers did a good job when Star Treks greatest bad guy is seen as compassionate. Truth about Khan is he is the most ruthless warlord in all of earth history according to Star Trek. He made Hitler look like a chump.
Every time I hear the intro to this song I have to stop and close my eyes for a moment I don't know why it has such a big effect on me lol This is such an emotional and beautiful song
Some quick background: my car was in the shop, I had a relatively important meeting so I put on a suit (not my usual style) and actually ordered an Uber black. Sat in the back seat, and asked the driver if I could use her SUV's blue tooth. I played this as we drove out of downtown San Diego on an overcast morning. Most satisfying Uber experience. Try it sometime. ;)
Movie music gets overlooked so often. I mean its one part of the whole experience of a movie, but sometimes you get a whole new respect from the perspective of listening to just the score, it tells a story in itself, almost like a childs innocence at its start as it progresses to get darker and darker as it goes(grows) on.
It says something about Star Trek that the main villain's theme sounds like this. I really love the new Trek films, they've injected the passion, the energy and the buzz that Trek has never really had, along with a good dose of attitude and some incredible special effects... but then the haters think over-use of lense flare makes a bad film. Guess they should be grateful they've got new films to bitch about, instead of moaning about Insurrection and Nemesis...
an entire month worth of episodic material to watch spanning 6 completely unique series, 2 months if you slept between some episodes, 400 books. 10 full length films, Games on every platform known going back to the 70's, a fan fiction community only second to the XENA warrior community... and ALL that material... stayed true to the technological, biological, economic, philanthropic, sociologic and philosophic canon...about people, races, planets, places, religions, and histories that we care about and have been developing for 60 years... and JJ Abrams makes a movie that is nothing but Fan Service, and then gets all the fan service wrong.. and you think we are pissed about lens flares?
+Bartacomus Kidd I dont mind Spok having depth but they didn't have to make him into such a bitch boy whipped simp. He should have marooned Ohura on the kronos. Kahn was a drama quire boy. S T Beyond needed more Lens flair.
"You should have let me sleeeeep" :)"Well Kirk looks like I am app to return you to your crew after all No ship should go down without her Captain." :)
This sound is as much the character of Khan as the actor, n my opinion, one wouldn't have been as strong without the other...this isn't a song, it's a performance...one that I think is brilliant and beautiful...
Star Trek : Into Darkness might be one of Giacchino's best soundtracks. Intricate, epic in scope, intimate in feel and wonderfully composed. I think it stands toe to toe with War for the Planet of Apes, Spiderman Homecoming and Coco. What a composer this man is.
There was me thinking that Bane was the best villian from films in recent years. Khan was awesome on so many levels, for the most part I liked him but I also felt sorry for him and this theme fits so well.
Great sadness, grief, and torment mixed with inner rage and anger... Sounds like how I've been without access to the one I love...not unlike Khan without the men and women he holds most dear...
You're entirely welcome! :D I love the calm start of his theme. For me, the music can tell the tale of this man. The soft sorrow of what Harrison and his crew have gone through. And the ever enigmatic/heroic/sinister theme that is KHAN!
At about 7:32, I am almost in tears. Michael Giacchino really hit the nail on the head when it comes to capturing the tortured emotion in Kahn. Hats off to you, Mr. Giacchino.
3:43 I love this shift from slight hope to anger. It really emphasizes Khan's desperation to get his crew back and that he will go to any length to do so.
It would be cool but I'm hoping ST 4 reintroduces the Cold War with the Klingon Empire and possibly bring back a classic Klingon villain like Chang or Kor.
Hauntingly beautiful... There is something to classical instrumentals that just capture the essense of feeling. And this makes me feel both loss, urgency and dread of something unknown. But at the same time a warmth and a yearning for a loving reunion with someone you just can´t reach yet, or anymore. But i can feel the hope for it. Sad music like this can make me feel all flussy inside, like it is a temporary, mind-altering experience in small doses. I can listen to classical instruments and orchestral pieces for hours and feel what the artist was feeling through their art. It is something truly special, especially sad pieces like this. It hits something deep, deep inside that i can´t really feel normally. It needs something with a LOT of emotion to be felt. Like there is something buried deep in the human psyche that only something like music, or other very soulfull art such as this can help to release. So much underesstimated great artists behind the movies we watch. The movie gets lifted to the skies with pieces like this in it! Just the beginning of the movie... Omg... Haunting, yet so powerful!
what a beautiful and just damned awesome song... you can just feel the emotions of the character as it gets near the end...starts softly but ends with a bang.
I totally understand anyone's reasons for not liking the new Star Trek movies but Giacchino knocked it out of the park with every single track, and that's more than enough for me to revisit them from time to time (though I really love the cast, too).
7:36 Oh man.. that scene when he takes off his mask then jumps towards the enemies, shoots them and does a mele combo on them, just epic with this theme.. epic
Love how this just gets darker and more hectic as it progresses.
your thoughts on star trek beyond?
Shame things like this get ignored when people are hating on a movie. Bravo, Giacchino.
+Zero Kelvin I liked the movie, except the ending, that ripped Wrath of Khan line to line.
+TheDarthDestruktor I felt it was more of a homage to Wrath of Khan, rather than a rip off. A tip of the hat, if you will, while still retaining the idea that this is a new branch in the Star Trek series by switching Kirk and Spock's roles.
AncientRaig
I know. But this is new series, they should twist it a bit more.
TheDarthDestruktor
What more could they really do? You can't change such an iconic scene too much without ruining it.
AncientRaig
You can. It's not Wrath of Khan, it's a new movie. You can change many things.
Even after 9 1/2 years, I still come back to this theme. I just love it.
I see why people dislike the movie but it still makes me sad. I enjoyed it and really like what they did with Khan.
It's amazing how such an evil character can have such a beautiful theme song, specially that beautiful piano part. Makes you feel like Khan has a point in doing what he does and makes you like him.
such character very music so piano wow
FormideDR such original very new so edgy wow
Every villain in history thinks that they are right.
Well Evil Humans are created not born.
FormideDR very doge...
i want kahn in the next one 50% to hear his theme again and 50% BENIDICT FUCKEN CUMBERBATCH!
Ken Bessler but who would play data, benedict is taken. and how confusing would this get with two highly intelligent men arguing
+Ken Bessler beste ideal ever!!!!!
+damon trudeau I would say HE'S DEAD JIM but in (canon) actuality, he's just on ice. Permanently.
Am I the only one who admires Khan? He seems to be the only one who knows what he is doing.
Yes. You are the only one who admires Khan. You seem to be the only one who doesn't know what you are talking about.
Thomas. You are not alone. I also admire KHAN!!!!
ME TOO !!!!!!!!! KHAN is BETTER !
JinXxPanda LookingForTheDoctor At what? xD
Aerdna Rodríguez Everything!!! XD
New Khan: I am better.
Old Khan: At what?
New Khan: Everything.
I'm still waiting for someone to clip crop a khan vs khan video lol
I say Cumberbatch and Montalbán are equal, brilliant in different ways.
@Darth Cameron I agree, although there was an underlying "smoothness" to CumberKhan. The way he spoke, his posture when he both sat and stood, and his chilling glare were great.
@Darth Cameron Benedict is too brutal😅 I can hear the bone crack😨
@@kylelindquist7634 He was so amazing as Khan! He brought Star Trek to the women and turned them into Trekkies.
Khan is a villain I can connect with. I really connect with him on the level of doing anything to protect your family, and doing everything to save them. I really like how he's not a villain just to be a villain, he has a backstory and a motive. It's not like he hated Starfleet right from the start - that was Marcus's fault - he just wanted his family back. Yes his methods were extreme, but to his mind it was the only way to get his crew, his family, back safely. Khan is my favorite villain of all time, and always will be.
I still prefer Prime Khan to Kelvin Khan but regardless as Tom Hiddleston once said "Every villain is a hero in his own mind".
+sumo73 I like both versions of Khan. Its amazing to see this version though I wish they had gotten an actual Indian to play him both times. But he's so bad ass. A true warrior. To bad we didn't see Marla McGivers
+Juan Catalan In the comic book 'Star Trek Khan' it shows the Khan having facial surgery to disguise who he really was. Of course this was released after the movie came out but does try to explain things.
I think it's just easier for Hollywood to have a white British guy be the stereotype bad guy in films. The worry was if you put an Indian guy in to play the bad guy people will deem it as racist. Strange since they put a black British guy in Star Trek Beyond, Idris Elba.
If you watch the first Star Trek reboot film back in 2009 almost the very first face you see on screen is of Captain Richard Robau played by Faran Tahir. It shows that true progression has been achieved in the future.
Anyway, what I'm saying is I agree with you. It's a shame that Hollywood didn't look to Bollywood either (Shah Rukh Khan, Ajay Devgn...) for someone to play Khan but there you go.
Yeah. I thought Khan was the best villain of Star Trek ever. A Sikh warrior that was created to be the perfect man.
Youre genetically modified?
"I can save her."
But at what cost? Khan put that poor man in a terrible position. Either watch his daughter die or help him blow up a Starfleet facility in exchange for curing her.
Star Trek never really had much of an iconic villain that Star Wars had, like Darth Vader for example. Yeah, there's the Klingons and the Borg, but when Khan first made his MAJOR villainous role in Wrath of Khan, Star Trek kind of exploded there. This movie brought him back, and even though he is much different from the original, it still gives no doubt that Khan IS Star Trek's villain.
Except theres no history between him and Kirk.. no Murder.. No Betrayal.. No dead Wives.. no death of his people slowly at the hands of starvation and brain eating slugs.. while a super genius super physique can do nothing.. while the only man to beat him receives promotion and adulation.. no "let lying dogs lay" lesson concerning the SS Botany Bay.. No Polarized ideologies based on the same crux point.. No Moby Dick..and no hints of mythos and edifice inthe characters and the perfect analogy to Moby Dick.. No Eugenics wars.. No 30 million dead... No 25% of earth under his dictatorial boot heel.. No scarred bodies, no Idian heritage.. no Sikh ideology.. No lessons in Age.. and Parting Ways.. No 4 movies in a row, bringing a character back to life.. 4 movies to regain Spocks Katra.. (just 3 minutes and a Tribble ) No ultimate Sacrifice by Khan.. No Spitting last breaths at thee....
so im not quite sure what hes on about when he hollars "I am Khan" like anyone in that reboot would know.. or care.. but he can jump around like Neo in the matrix.. so.. uhmm.. eehhhhh... yeeeeah.. uhhh..
Vinnie Hatcher for fuck's sake dude! It's just an opinion goddamn you! You remember those don't you?! Seriously dude, seek therapy for whatever trigger warning, micro aggression, safe space bullshit you're addicted to! And before you try to make ANY, and I mean ANY sarcastic or witty comebacks, read what you posted and answer me one question: HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THE OTHER GUY AN IDIOT SIMPLY FOR POSTING HIS OPINION?! And Trekkies wonder why they are sometimes considered THE most toxic as fuck, hard to please fandom!
And the fact that your profile pic is from a moronic cartoon like Spongebob, plus the fact that your retort sounds like an argument some prepubescent 8 year old would try to make, says it all. Seriously? I don't have a picture so that automatically invalidates my previous statement? I'm sure in some fucked up fantasy world, that rhetoric would make perfect sense, but the problem with that kind of thinking is..............THIS IS REALITY! If you're gonna go through the trouble of trying to troll anyone about any responses they make about whatever myopic, asinine comments you post, do yourself and the rest of the internet community a favor and learn how to do it right! Who knows, you just may get it right and win at life for once one day. There, did I respond fast enough for you this time?
Hands John Farmer a Kleenex.. welcome to the group.
Bartacomus Kidd thanks. But I won't be needing it. Lol.
This movie was amazing. I just wish they gave us MOREE of a background story to Khan. forreal I wouldn't even mind seeing as how he and the 72 others like Khan were engineered to be the "best" ultimately being condemned as war criminals. I wouldn't even mind if they turned that into a movie lol...
It wouldn't surprise me for another film to feature Khan. Hopefully that is why they held back on the 'Ode to Harrison' release and refroze Khan.
They released a 5 part comic called KHAN afterwards to explain his backstory.
the backgrounds pretty much the same as in the original series, so if you watch the episode of that with Khan in, it goes into greater detail about his past there
There is a series of books dedicated to that. I believe the first one is called The Eugenics Wars
Since the Eugenics Wars came before the timeline shift Khan's history largely remained the same. See TOS "Space Seed" and the film "Wrath of Khan" for more details.
I was actually rooting for Khan throughout the entire movie. Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate psychopathy and evil smart, but it just felt more logical for Khan to succeed in his endeavours.
Logical? He would have killed billions.
***** but when he cried about his crew I just believed it and understood his motives
*****
Like any other country. Or Admiral.
demonblade001 He isn't like any other Admiral and I'd rather live in Soviet Russia than any of the country's Khan used to rule over. This guy was a monster.
*****
I was referring to the admiral in the movie. And those two country's would be almost the same.
This is not only a beautiful song, it has so much emotion that it almost makes my brain hurt. It makes you truly consider Khan's position; get a true grasp of what he feels. He is trying to save his family. His suffering has gone on for years. The raw emotion in this song is what truly makes it great.
And then of course when it gets more explosive and faster paced you start getting into the fact he's clearly unbalanced and insane. Willing to go above and beyond what many would consider rational.
@@williambeck2372 how many rats do we manipulate, maim, and kill in experimentation for the betterment of our own 'crew' (species)?
Would we look much different than rats to Khan? Would he be wrong? And if so, when that rat tries to run or squiggle away and we simply put it back in its little gas chamber to study it, are we any better?
"Insanity" in this case is relative
@@0rezinlv the best villains aren't villains. Just misunderstood antagonists.
@@0rezinlv Although, Khan would still be evil regardless of what he was put through. Before going into hibernation he and his crew nearly did kill everyone in their time. :P
@@FirstLast-ys6xx yeah so true.... As Joker... The last movie of Phoenix let is consider that it was the sick society of Gotham who turned Arthur Fleck to Joker. And the sad thing is that there are people who share the same type of life. Ignored, humiliated over and over again... Joker is a villain but even an hero at the same time.
"Is there anything you would not do...for your family...?"
Dom Toretto quote? 😆
7:35 in is one of the most epic pieces
this I agree with. it's so powerful
no doubt
Dylan Bunio Do you know what's the name of the music ? PLS
Eliott Brogniet Kronos Wartet
I know!
Besides Jerry Goldsmith's anthem for the Klingon Empire, who are not truly villainous, Star Trek hasn't really had a great theme for its bad guys... Until now when Trek's greatest bad guy returns... It's haunting and patient with only a hint of malice bubbling beneath the surface. Just like Khan!
Gul dukat is treks main villian i think in the films its khan but on the small screen and overall imo its Dukat he was by far the best villian.
+Scotty SCL ehhh.... Deep space nine :/
+The Cinema Cowboy DS9 is the best. The characters and the writing were absoloutly brilliant! Although sisko was kind of a weak character but he still had some very good episodes
+Scotty SCL DS9 is like those fan made films ya see every once in a while. It's a series tied loosely to Trek lore and keeping with little of the other series feeling and charm. Conceptually it was a bad idea for a star TREK series as it was basically sitting at a space station with the most obnoxious characters in all of Star Trek. What's worse is that you are stuck between the religious zealots and all around assholes (bajorans) and the villains so lame they are often confused with a multitude of other aliens and reality show stars (cardasdians). it's a show with so little going it's way it makes repeated attempts at reminding you of Next Gen and needed a new series (Voyager) to uphold the mantel of actually trekking through stars with creative aliens and morality stories. Let's throw in the dominion war too because EXPLOSIONS (Trekkie irony is exceedingly apparent here when discussing the "greatness" of ds9). Ds9 is Star Trek for idiots.
+SCL - Borg, ever heard of them?
so cold and calculating, just like the character of KAHN!
+companymen42 Khan not Kahn
i love Benedict Cumberbatch lol
My name is Barry Allen and I am the fastest man alive
We need more fucking Khan. Dude stole every scene Into Darkness.
..I feel his anger...his despair...his vengeance!
No and no.
I feel his...wrath.
Shall we begin?
Yeah... thats much better than that silly Herman Melville.. and its underlying theme of Polar Nemeses.. or its cautionary tale of Anger beyond Reason.. or the underlying theme of Tyrant men in command of Ships at sea, and how their crew pay for the captains lack of humility.. or the lesson to be learned about rage being ones primary motivator. This IS Khan "Aye, aye! it was that accursed white whale that razeed me; made a poor pegging lubber of me for ever and a day!" Then tossing both arms, with measureless imprecations he shouted out: "Aye, aye! and I’ll chase him round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames before I give him up. And this is what ye have shipped for, men! to chase that white whale on both sides of land, and over all sides of earth, till he spouts black blood and rolls fin out. What say ye, men, will ye splice hands on it, now? I think ye do look brave."
or i guess.. "I feel his anger, despair, vengeance" is good to... yeah... absolutely commensurate... Fuck Moby Dick.
Yeah, right.
How can anyone hate this?
9:48 is when it gets absolutely masterful
michael giacchino is an excellent composer
But he can't seem to put the full version of this in the official soundtrack. Or the growl.
The first time I heard this in the cinema, I knew it wasn't the last time I heard it as it was so amazing. And here I am, listening to one of the best pieces of music I've ever heard.
5:50 holy shit that hint towards the main part gives me the chills
I want see more Khan in Star Trek!
He is only reason why i watched this movie!
I agree
I know that there are many that would disagree and even go as far as to call it sick, but I empathize extremely well with Benedict’s portrayal of Khan. I can’t help but feel nothing but pity and sadness for him throughout the entirety of the story. Although he may have shall we say, misplaced motives, he has a heart too; the torment and despair he experiences through the loss of those he considers to be his only family and the anger that wells within him is no less than a perfect veiled depiction of human nature itself. Love gives way to loss. Loss gives way to pain. Pain gives way to anger. And anger gives way to hate. The depiction of Khan in the film is no less than a work of genius direction and portrayal of human emotion in its most raw form.
I would agree with you, except Khan was the pretty much Hitler of WW3 before he escaped on the seed ship.
probably my favorite villain of all time in moves. great acting by the BC.
You think your world is safe
This is an illusion
I love the piano part!
This is a theme I want to hear again in one of the next movies of the new franchise... It is so deep and meeningful, it makes you remember Khan isn't a monster. He's not an evil man, even if he is uberly dangerous and a bit too resentful xD
This melody is just incredible... I can't get it out of my head. A drop of despair, darkness and hate, mixed with a touch of bravery.
It tells you the filmmakers did a good job when Star Treks greatest bad guy is seen as compassionate. Truth about Khan is he is the most ruthless warlord in all of earth history according to Star Trek. He made Hitler look like a chump.
I love the piano parts especially at the beginning c:
7:45 the sheer power of the score blows me away every time. Great film and score!
Every time I hear the intro to this song I have to stop and close my eyes for a moment
I don't know why it has such a big effect on me lol
This is such an emotional and beautiful song
Some quick background: my car was in the shop, I had a relatively important meeting so I put on a suit (not my usual style) and actually ordered an Uber black. Sat in the back seat, and asked the driver if I could use her SUV's blue tooth. I played this as we drove out of downtown San Diego on an overcast morning. Most satisfying Uber experience. Try it sometime. ;)
Movie music gets overlooked so often. I mean its one part of the whole experience of a movie, but sometimes you get a whole new respect from the perspective of listening to just the score, it tells a story in itself, almost like a childs innocence at its start as it progresses to get darker and darker as it goes(grows) on.
That’s why movie soundtracks have been my favorite kind of music for years. One song can bring up a single scene and you hear it so clearly.
It says something about Star Trek that the main villain's theme sounds like this. I really love the new Trek films, they've injected the passion, the energy and the buzz that Trek has never really had, along with a good dose of attitude and some incredible special effects... but then the haters think over-use of lense flare makes a bad film. Guess they should be grateful they've got new films to bitch about, instead of moaning about Insurrection and Nemesis...
+Adam McLaughlin Insurrection and Nemesis?
+Guardsman Boris star trek films
an entire month worth of episodic material to watch spanning 6 completely unique series, 2 months if you slept between some episodes, 400 books. 10 full length films, Games on every platform known going back to the 70's, a fan fiction community only second to the XENA warrior community... and ALL that material... stayed true to the technological, biological, economic, philanthropic, sociologic and philosophic canon...about people, races, planets, places, religions, and histories that we care about and have been developing for 60 years... and JJ Abrams makes a movie that is nothing but Fan Service, and then gets all the fan service wrong.. and you think we are pissed about lens flares?
+Bartacomus Kidd who said that jj abrams wanted a movie for the star trek fans?
+Bartacomus Kidd I dont mind Spok having depth but they didn't have to make him into such a bitch boy whipped simp. He should have marooned Ohura on the kronos.
Kahn was a drama quire boy.
S T Beyond needed more Lens flair.
Definitely should have had more Khan scenes.
It needed Benedict Cumberbatch to create the mystery and enigma that is Khan. Only he and no one else could have elicited such emotion and mystery.
SO BEAUTIFUL FROM 7:35 ON
Snack Zyder Do you know the name of the music ? Pls
in the official soundtrack the part from 7:35 is include in the tracks : "The Kronos wartet" , and "The San Fran Hustle"
You know a song is brilliant when it makes you feel. Joy, anger, sadness, gleefulness, etc.
this song is OP
"You should have let me sleeeeep" :)"Well Kirk looks like I am app to return you to your crew after all No ship should go down without her Captain." :)
i must say Michael Giacchino has amazing talent a he can bring new thing to composing amazing soundtracks :D love this song loads :D
Absolutely fantastic movie villain
This sound is as much the character of Khan as the actor, n my opinion, one wouldn't have been as strong without the other...this isn't a song, it's a performance...one that I think is brilliant and beautiful...
+Jay R finally .. youre in the right place :D
It is crazy how Khan's figure is still ageing so well in my brain chemistry.
Star Trek : Into Darkness might be one of Giacchino's best soundtracks.
Intricate, epic in scope, intimate in feel and wonderfully composed.
I think it stands toe to toe with War for the Planet of Apes, Spiderman Homecoming and Coco.
What a composer this man is.
Easily the best star trek movie of late, the music certainly helped.
This song gives me chills.
It's so good, so epic.
"Tell me Kirk, is there anything you would it do for your family?"
@Robotmaxi nice one
Cumberbatch was amazing, but Montalban's original Khan (in Space Seed and Star Trek II) will always be my favorite Star Trek villain.
Masterpiece.
This theme never gets old. What an incredible soundtrack for this movie! Love it!
Best theme in Star Trek ever. You could feel Khan's kindness for his family whilst feeling the anger as well.
so peaceful but so menacing..
I never realized how much this was like the middle of Beethovens Moonlight Sonata. Amazing work, two excellent pieces!
There was me thinking that Bane was the best villian from films in recent years.
Khan was awesome on so many levels, for the most part I liked him but I also felt sorry for him and this theme fits so well.
Great sadness, grief, and torment mixed with inner rage and anger...
Sounds like how I've been without access to the one I love...not unlike Khan without the men and women he holds most dear...
That's wonderful, not only for Tsar Trek fans..I love it
King Trek fans?
Beneficial Cucumber is such a great actor.
Stephen your an idiot. His name is Benedict Cumberbatch!
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You're * as in you're dense enough to let it go over your head.
I love this theme so much. *cries*
You're entirely welcome! :D I love the calm start of his theme. For me, the music can tell the tale of this man. The soft sorrow of what Harrison and his crew have gone through. And the ever enigmatic/heroic/sinister theme that is KHAN!
I Love Benedict
no wonder this makes benedict tears down while listen this beautifully soundtrack..I love michael giacchino
There's a small drumbeat in the background of the song that reminds me of the Master from "Doctor Who".
Woah! I didn't notice that at all until I read your comment.
Woah! I didn't notice that at all until I read your comment.
OMG yer right! Now I have to go and watch all of Doctor Who on Netflix again... :D
The heartbeat of time lord!
"Wardrums of my soul" Master/Khan...
God the buildup to that hectic ending of Ode To Harrison sends chills down my spine
Great movie and the first movie also and this soundtrack is epic
Love the piano part! :)
At about 7:32, I am almost in tears. Michael Giacchino really hit the nail on the head when it comes to capturing the tortured emotion in Kahn. Hats off to you, Mr. Giacchino.
Still great even after 6 Years and still I am full of hope that the next Star Trek Movie will be with Khan again :D
3:43 I love this shift from slight hope to anger. It really emphasizes Khan's desperation to get his crew back and that he will go to any length to do so.
This is just beautiful. I think it's already one of my favorite soundtracks ever
How has this flown under the radar it's awesome!
Khan was so enigmatic. I hope they have him for a bit in the next movie, even though trekkies would probably be outraged.
No, they need to wait, bring him back in Star Trek Iv as a "badass".
It would be cool but I'm hoping ST 4 reintroduces the Cold War with the Klingon Empire and possibly bring back a classic Klingon villain like Chang or Kor.
Hauntingly beautiful...
There is something to classical instrumentals that just capture the essense of feeling. And this makes me feel both loss, urgency and dread of something unknown. But at the same time a warmth and a yearning for a loving reunion with someone you just can´t reach yet, or anymore. But i can feel the hope for it.
Sad music like this can make me feel all flussy inside, like it is a temporary, mind-altering experience in small doses. I can listen to classical instruments and orchestral pieces for hours and feel what the artist was feeling through their art. It is something truly special, especially sad pieces like this. It hits something deep, deep inside that i can´t really feel normally. It needs something with a LOT of emotion to be felt. Like there is something buried deep in the human psyche that only something like music, or other very soulfull art such as this can help to release.
So much underesstimated great artists behind the movies we watch. The movie gets lifted to the skies with pieces like this in it!
Just the beginning of the movie... Omg... Haunting, yet so powerful!
I keep coming back to this piece whenever I'm in deep emotional distress...it just fits so well with emotions of that nature...
A truly heart - touching theme .
Khan is back , a multilayered and complex character .
what a beautiful and just damned awesome song... you can just feel the emotions of the character as it gets near the end...starts softly but ends with a bang.
I cannot get over how beautiful this piece of music is. ❤️
is almost as good as the imperial march in star wars, shiver me go!!!
I may not love the new films, but the musical score in them is awesome. I like this theme especially.
Every time I listen to this a tear drops down. What a track.
Khan is being more and more real day by day.
Oh my God, this song is amazing and wonderful! I'm love with him.
A Masterpiece in its own right
This makes me feel like I have to take my revenge from something that I don't know for sure...
I totally understand anyone's reasons for not liking the new Star Trek movies but Giacchino knocked it out of the park with every single track, and that's more than enough for me to revisit them from time to time (though I really love the cast, too).
Took me 7 years to realize the hole he is standing in is the star trek badge.
Wow this is amazing, this was the first Star Trek movie I watched and the only one so far. Hopefully we can change that sometime soon.
I love this music. So much different feelings throughout it all. Amaziiiiing.
7:36 Oh man.. that scene when he takes off his mask then jumps towards the enemies, shoots them and does a mele combo on them, just epic with this theme.. epic
Bendydick Cuminbitch was amazing in this movie
Lmao
Benedict Cumberbatch!
No idiots! It's Butterscotch Cabbagepatch!
Wtf? Nooo, it's Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch!
His name, is...Khaan!
John Harisson's Theme .... chills ! *-*
07:36 just gorgeous .
I think this song makes me think of the woe of Satan and the vengeance he can only dream to achieve.
Brilliant, Khan is! Written beautifully! Wonderful acting!
Teacher:Why you dont make the homework?
Me:KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
i can save her, your daughter.... What did you say?!!
+Melvin Fisher Mickey smith after getting dumped by doctor and rose
AHAHAHAHAH i love that scene
Everyday I have to listen this!
Oh! this is great to listening in the morning, energy boost and feel epic!
The beginning piano theme reminds me of Phil Glass's "Glassworks."