Gen3 Raptor 1 Year Later..In Depth Discussion
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Just passed 1 year with my 2022 37. Love it just as much as day 1. At 14K miles now. It’s been great on and off-road… it is wide for some trails where decisions on which side is getting scratched has to be made. People ask how it drives.. it defies the laws of physics.. something this big with tires this big shouldn’t drive this well. So much fun.
That's awesome! Love the 37 package trucks. Just bought new tires for ours...glad they're the 35" with what the tires cost these days. Same here, have pin striping from trails, but it wears those as badges of honor...lol. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience!
@@ChristianGrest love the BFG KO2 but they aren’t going to make it to 30K. Going to try new Falken tire next as snow rating is a requirement.
@@TCinSoCal just changed my KO2 tires at 45k miles and they still have probably 10k left. Our last Raptor I swapped them at 35k so I guess it just depends. Falken make some great tires by the way!
@@ChristianGrestthey will ‘make’ it to 30 but not with enough tread to be safe in mountains/Lake Arrowhead, CA. This is their last winter for sure.
Just ran into this review a year later while currently shopping for a 2024 Raptor (non-R) and dealers actually have some 2023’s left over and from what they are telling me, “eager to sell the 2023’s”, we will see. This review was great! Glad to see a review from someone that really drives their truck a lot! What’s ironic is that I was actually shopping for a RIvian R1T. I am not opposed to going electric, but there still needs to be some things worked out on that end. Cost and cost of insurance being a couple.
Awesome man, thanks for the compliment! I need to do another update video as I’m right at 50k miles with mine. It’s been a heck of a truck and definitely not babied. Replaced the tires recently. I know some folk don’t care for the BFG K02 but I’ve ran them exclusively on both my Raptors and can’t imagine putting a different tire on there.
Definitely let me know what Raptor you end up with!
Nice truck. Glad you haven’t had the problems you had with the last one.
Thanks 🙏 it’s been a good one! Just wished I could find a service department worth a damn.
I have a velocity blue 2019 Gen 2 Raptor. Some guy traded it in for a M3 BMW. There were only two this color in DFW. I bought it Nov 2020 at 9500 miles for $66Gs. I had to get the pump sender unit fixed. Put road warrior bumpers on the front and back. Light rack came with the bumpers and put amber lights in the fogs. Nitto ridge grappler tires. They have better grip on the road than the BF Good-wrench. Especially on the wet roads. I like the Raptor R. Saw someone buy one. I rather buy a house here in TX than buy the Raptor R. Lol
I agree with you on the Raptor. I’ll probably have this truck for a long time. Very happy with the stock V6. 👍
Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m at 50K miles on this one and probably should do another update. It’s been a great truck!
Thank you for a great review. I appreciate your insights.
My pleasure! Glad I could help!
Nice! I'd love a Raptor one day.
Thanks! It’s our second and it’s such a blast.
I had that exact same clunking shock problem.. got fixed eventually but man it took ages for them to diagnose.
Was pretty easy when I had it. You could hear it coming from the rear shocks. Glad you got it fixed! Sure was annoying.
I couldn't agree more, I love my GEN 3 .....The R looks interesting though, but my GEN 3 gets bad enough gas mileage as it is....Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
I have a Gen 2 raptor since dealers wanted $25k over MSRP for GEN 3 raptors and they were giving me like $50 back for lost features due to chip shortages. It was insane that they were trying to pull that off. The only reason I didn't buy a TRX is because of their GVWR. To get a temporary import permit into Mexico it needs to be under 7,716 pounds and a TRX is sadly 7,800.
I like the looks of the GEN 2 raptor a lot more than the GEN 3. So I'm very happy with my purchase.
We had a great time with our gen 2, they’re awesome trucks! Totally here you on the markups. Dealers are still doing that garbage. We were very fortunate when we got ours.
@@ChristianGrest Just wanted to let you know they are not that heavy. I have a loaded 2021 Level 2 with the panoramic sunroof and I weighed it on the CAT Scales at a nearby truck stop. With a full tank of gas it was only 6,800lbs. I will add that before the TRX I had owned F150's the last 20 years of my life, my last truck before this one was a 2014 F150 FX4 that was loaded and very nice. I ran a 93 octane tune on it from the time the warranty ended till I traded it at 196,000 miles. I had never looked at a Ram, not because I didn't like them I just had always bought a Ford. I had a friend at the Ram dealership that knew I was in the process of buying a Gen 3 Raptor and asked me to come look at another customers white TRX to see what it looked like. Needless to say I put an order in on a black one right afterwards that I received in June of 2021. I let the Ford dealership sale the Raptor I had ordered. I have to say the TRX is a great truck.
@@PatriotJK1776 no doubt they’re great trucks! Out of the big 3 auto makers, I’ve owned more Fords and Dodges than anything GM. If the TRX had a larger tank then it might actually work for my use case with traveling and towing long distances. Had it not been for those 2 details, there’s better deals to be had on the TRX than the Raptor. Plus with my current beef with Ford Service… I’m looking to give something else a go down the road when it comes time to trade my wife’s Edge ST.
Thanks for giving your thoughts! Wish I knew a TRX owner personally for a good in person side by side comparison.
You want a gen 3. Buy from Columbine Ford out of Colorado. 2000.00 over MSRP. Shipping to Cali was 950.00 for over 1250 miles. And please dont forget to negotiate your interest rates and your extended warranties.
Got a 22 Raptor before prices went crazy. Agreed, great truck but not worth paying crazy money. I’m only at 4000 miles but need a shock(s) replaced too. Clunk clunk
Agreed. I had the clunk. Supposedly there were a lot of defective shocks.
@@ChristianGrest I've got a 21 Raptor with about 23,700 miles (I'm the second owner) I thought that clunk was just kind of normal. I'm guessing it's what was happening to you two...how did you guys describe the issue to your service dept/advisor so they actually take care of it?
@@jeffcloud4913 if I stand on my rear bumper and do a little bounce you could hear it. I did that for the service advisor.
I also had a bad right rear shock..(22’ raptor). They replaced it and now I feel like the front right shock is making the same noise. Have any of you guys have/had the front shock needing replacement?
@@Matt-zn4zp yes, they did my rear shocks then had fronts on order but I traded for a 37
Nice video. Nice to see another raptor video. While the raptor r is a dream truck It's nice to see a v8 return. It's hard for me to imagine a truck without a v8, it sounds oxymoronic. It was hard watching Mr Big Kid drive his rv across country having to stop for gas so often, love my 35 gallon tank
Thanks! Yes I’m way overdue for another Raptor video. Sure hope to do some more content on it. I’m thinking I may do some on my Dads old 96 F150 that I’ve been working on
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Is the 96 the rectangular front end with a straight 6?
@@curtisdrakesr4900 it is! 96’ short bed, 300 straight 6 with a 5 speed. 2WD
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It always makes me laugh with only 148 hp they still seem alot more stout/torquier/stronger than todays engines cranking out 3x as many hp
@@curtisdrakesr4900 it’s got a lot of torque, but it’s no speed demon that’s for sure. Tow rating is 7k LBs which surprised me
I have driven a Ford truck since 2006 which is kind of odd since I'm a Chevy man. My F150 has been a great truck, it's kind of falling apart and needs to be replaced, but it still runs well
My Dads old 96’ has been putting in 50 miles a day as of late. Fords definitely aren’t perfect, but I’ve had good luck with the knee I’ve owned. Actually had good luck with the handful of GM products I owned except for my oldest daughters 96’ Monte Carlo… at 60k miles it needed so much work.
@@ChristianGrest My F150 is a 96' 4X4
Great review! My 21 is now about a year and half old. my only complaint is the transmission tuning. Total crap. But I've heard the tunes out there completely fix the issues. This is my first ford. Overall I'm really happy with the truck similar to your likes.
I appreciate the comment! Yea the transmission sometimes doesn’t know what to do, but I’ve been fine with it. Considering a tube from Goosetune if I go that route. Just did a rear end service… check that video out if you get a chance. Thanks for stopping by!
@@ChristianGrest yeah Goose is what I’ll go with. Will probably do a intercooler swap as well.
@@DirtyBeemer1 nice! That intercooler will help wake it up along with the tune. I’ve been pretty happy with the stock power, otherwise I’d have already tuned it. Coming up on 38K miles now
Funny you say this. This video just popped up for me months later it seems. I got my raptor a few weeks ago. The sport mode transmission is weird at times. Especially in down shifts. Seems like it gives it extra gas as it down shifts sometimes. Almost like trying to rev match. But really makes the truck accelerate a bit. Seems weird to me.
@@aimetti02 sport is very jerky for me. Very hard shifts in several gears. I love the mode, but it’s pretty harsh. I’m still waiting out my time to tune just to clean up this transmission that I still hate with a passion. I love everything else about the truck though.
My husband and I live in Vancouver and drive our Raptor to East Oregon desert, or sometimes we drive to Nevada to run trails used for some popular off road race course that he just loves. We have been to Utah too! You owe it to yourself to drive it to the desert to let her loose lol. It is a lot of fun! You have shackles on it, daily driving it to work on the east coast!😞
You don't wrap your truck, to protect the paint? You should to avoid those pinstripes lol
That’s awesome! Yea there are some spots with faster trails out east, but few and far between. Went down to the Osceola National forest last fall and they have some decent trails to play on. Have a video out for that trip.
No didn’t wrap it, but I’ve never done that. Only ceramic coating. I just try not to drive too much on super tight trails, but it happens.
Thanks so much for watching and sharing your experience… much appreciated!
@@ChristianGrest I'll check out that other video out. Yeah the Raptor doesn't like tight trails lol. That's why I suggested a wrap! Here, British Columbia is full of heavily forested technical mountain trails, where any full-sized rig WILL suffer paint damage lol, especially wide-body Raptors lol.
Bring her to the mid-west! (Utah or Nevada), at least one weekend out of the year! Lol. The Raptor community has been great, in Canada and the US!
@@lunamaria1048 the wife and I have talked about a road trip out to Utah. Went to Moab when I went to the Raptor Assault class for our last Raptor and it looks awesome! Would love to get out that way with the truck at some point.
Awesome review and awesome truck. I'm coming up on my 1 year anniversary of buying my Rebel and I'm still super happy with it.
Rebels are nice! Plenty of folk with those that have been super happy.
THANK YOU BROTHER YOU DID WILL RELY I AGREE WITH YOU H HAVE RAPTOR 2022 35 INC VERY good CAR NO NEED TO CHANGE ECONOMY CAR THANKS I AM FROME SAUDI I BOUGHT MY RAPTOR 104509 US
That's awesome! I bet you have some nice off road spots for your Raptor over there. Just passed 45,000 miles on mine and changed out the tires.
@@ChristianGrest How is it driving at 45K+ miles? Just purchased a used 2022 raptor with 35k miles and it is awesome/looks new. hoping it lasts me 10 years.
@@Alex-mw9un I’m at 53K now… still drives wonderful! Planning on servicing the transmission soon and the front differential. Did plugs, transfer case and rear differential already. Transfer case is so easy I’ll most likely do it more often.
@@ChristianGrest do you use an oil catch can? I’ve heard some people say they’re really good for longevity for the ecoboost, but equally I’ve heard that the gen 3 doesn’t need an oil separator/catch can…any thoughts?
@@Alex-mw9un I’ve run one on every turbo vehicle I’ve owned. Both my Raptors I’ve run the JLT version as well as on my wife’s Edge ST 2.7L TT. I does capture some crud that would otherwise go back into the intake. Seems worth the cheap cost to me
Love my 17' Raptor supercab still today. Love the new one also, but wish the Hp was upgraded. Plug change at 30 something really? Come on...I have 57,000 on mine an no issues at all. The ecoboost is an awesome engine for performance and mileage... The Raptor R is sold out already... Ford will not make enough of them of a few years.
Nice! Our 19 had about 45k on it when we traded. It was truly an awesome truck, we had many adventures in it. The 30k for a plug change isn’t necessary, but many folks have noticed decreased performance and tend to change the plugs early. They’re cheap and easy to do anyways. I tend to over maintain to help keep my vehicles at peak performance and hopefully help with longevity. Thanks for watching 👍
I guess I have bad luck… my very first Ford car, 2021 Raptor brand new 2 times coil problems, now with 49k miles differential leaking fluid, it’s in the dealership waiting on diagnosis the found metal shavin in the oil 😢😢 just normal driving must of the time hwy’s🤷🏽♂️
Found metal in the differential fluid? I’m at about 41k with mine, still doing great. Swapped the rear differential cover/fluid a while back and the transfer case fluid around 30k miles.
What kind of coil issues? I assume you’re saying ignition coils?
Around here in Aiken SC nothing but dirt resistant.
Had it running some trails in the Osceola National Forest last month. Ton of fun. Still love this thing. Thanks for watching!
what was the clunk like that you describe in the ear end? Im thinking mine is similar.
Ended up being the rear shocks. They were replaced by the dealer.
Great video thanks, I'm thinking of buying a 2023 Gen 3
Thanks for the compliment and watching. Do it! Seems much easier to find deals on them as of late. Plenty of availability
Good review. Is there a "deep snow/sand" mode, or something just as good for deep snow in story weather in ski country?
Thanks! There is a deep snow/sand mode. I’ve used it a few times while up in the mountains of Colorado. Works very well.
Hi, I love your video on the beach, where is the place. Thanks.
Kure Beach/Fort Fisher NC
Great video and after year of ownership. What exactly do you lose going to a 22 or 23 vs the 2021 you have? I'm currently in the market looking and crazy how used values are on these Raptors
Thanks! Just rolled past 45k miles. The 2023 lost the Torsen front end and a lot of the 22-23 had stuff deleted like the heated steering wheel, bed camera and other odds and ends. The new/used market has been normalizing…. There’s definitely better deals to be had now than a year back. Plenty of folk getting Raptors at MSRP and under.
@@ChristianGrest do you think picking up a 21 with close to 30k on them still has a lot of life left or try and grab one with lower miles which is tough for 21 model. Wonder how many miles are expected out of the 3.5 if maintained properly.
@@blazing2557 the 3.5 has been known to go to 200k, but there’s also more to go wrong with them. 30k is very reasonable mileage for a 21
@@ChristianGrest thanks for the insight and have a great weekend!
@@blazing2557 no problem man, happy to help. Have a great weekend too!
I was thinking to selling my 19 Shelby Baja Raptor . But I just love the looks of my Shelby . How would you rate the overall ride compared to your gen 2
It’s slightly softer especially going over bumps at a higher speed. The largest advantage is the upgraded interior, but the suspension upgrade is very nice as well. Not sure if it’s worth getting out of a Shelby Raptor for as those are a breed of their own, but Ford did good with these. The 2023 models I hear dropped the Torsten differential in the front end. Plus many seem to have options deleted. Kinda glad we have a 2021 due to those items.
Exhaust noise when using cruise control
Can you elaborate?
@@ChristianGrest my 2022 raptor’s exhaust noise gets louder when I’m using cruise control compared to driving the vehicle at the same speed my self
love the mud flaps who makes them?
Thanks! They’re made by RokBlokz. These are actually for gen2 Raptors, but I made them fit before they had gen3 versions available.
hows the mpg non towing?
Typically 17-18 traveling, but on some recent trips I actually managed 19.5 to 20.5 which is ridiculous MPGs for a truck like this.
Are those 35's or 37's on your Raptor? Do you think on a long roadtrip, if you kept all the adjustments at the right position, maybe normal or econo mode if there is one, turning down the exhaust, other things, not sure what settings those would be, driving steady, nothing crazy, a constant maybe 70mph, do you think you could average 20mpg or a tad more? Though I've heard the highway ride in the Raptor is buttery smooth due to the sprig suspension and such, I've also heard that the seats are firm, do you find the seats comfortable on long highway drives, how so? And lastly, if you've ever driven on highways in bad snowstorms, while in your lane where the tracks are it can feel solid, but when you cross lanes thru the deeper snow that accumulates between lanes, it will often feel wishy washy, unstable, for the few moments until you are comfortable in the next lane over. I've been concerned that with that much greater wheel width of the Raptor it might always be driving a little bit outside of the tracks of the other vehicles in you lane so would never quite feel fully stable, a bit like it was always crossing that deeper snow between lanes. Have you any experience with that, do you think that would occur, or am I over analyzing this, over thinking it, and though the Raptor has a wider width the lanes are not precise so it would still feel fully stable while in a lane?
35” tires. I’ve gotten 19-20mpg traveling around 65-70MPH on long trips.
Great. I was hoping that would be your answer. Do you think the average mpg could be close to that on the 37's? Any chance you also re-read the above and answer the other two questions? I'm going round and round about getting the Raptor, a Tremor or a platinum, and if one of the later two, bumping them up to 35's with a level after purchase, that way as one example, I could get the luxury Platinum seats but modify the Platinum with a lift and slight offset and bigger 35's for added road clearance and width/presence. I'm just not sure there is anything I could do to the Platinum to make its ride as buttery smooth and comfortable on the highway as the Raptor's, so maybe just go for the real thing, the Raptor. Thanks for your answer(s).@@ChristianGrest
@@Nate-zy5ce both my Raptors have been the most comfortable trucks I’ve ever owned. The other F-150s don’t compare. The suspension is plush and not harsh at all. I’ve driven mine across the country. Yes it’s a tad wider, but nothing that has caused me any issues. I’m almost at 45k miles on my current one.
Thanks for taking the time to reply multiple times. That is what I was thinking, it's nice to read someone actually stating it. If I go the Raptor route, and that is what I want, then I just have to decide a few things, top among them is whether to get the stock 35's or the 37 performance package. I like the idea of that ever further upgraded suspension, and frankly the look, but still wonder about the 37's impact on average mpg on long highway drives. Any thoughts on that? And I also have to decide on whether to get the new Pro Access tailgate with the smaller, center swinging door in addition to the traditional open flat capability. Since I plan to put a smooth, black Diamondback HD bedcover on it, I'm thinking the nearer access of the Pro Access Tailgate might be a real advantage, especially if I load stuff on top. But the 35 vs 37 question is my primary last issue. I'd be happy with either tailgate. All the best to you.
@@Nate-zy5ce you’ll lose atleast a couple MPGs with the 37. The 35” do everything the 37” does, just lose a slight. It of clearance. Better MPGs and faster 0-60 times with the 35”. Just kinda depends on what you’re after. Also tires are cheaper to replace with the 35”. As far as the tailgate, 100% happy with my tailgate with the step.
Are those tires noisy on the road?
No they’re pretty tame compared to many other off-road tires. You’ll get more noise as they wear out. I’m on my 4th set of these over the years.
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That truck is a beast
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Yea it is. I don’t use it nowhere near its capability. But I do take it off-road a good bit. It’s been one heck of a truck.
You wont feel a 15 hp.loss using reg gas....trust me.....more octane dont make more power no matter how many dingbats tell you it does.. mit just allows the computer to advance the timing a couple degrees ...that only makes a few hp....not enough to see a difference✌
I’ve run premium in all my 3.5 and 2.7 turbo motors. Not necessary, but when I’ve run regular the mileage suffers and there is a noticeable difference in the 3.5 especially.
I don't think you have experienced new Kia cars.....
Had a 2015 Kia Forte5. It was actually a great little car, but so dang uncomfortable.
@@ChristianGrest the Kia has been recalled because of fire risk😢
please stop
Thanks for the comment! Enjoy your Sunday 😃
You like the stock power , add the Whipple stage 1 kit , you will love it , 2100.00 added torque and HP much better peddle mapping
Have been considering Goosetune. Pretty impressive results with just a tune. But honestly I’ve been pretty satisfied with the stock power.
@@ChristianGrest doing a tune without upgrading the inner cooler and intake , stresses the turbos , the Whipple kit is great , I have it on my gen 3 with 37 package