Can I Beat Fallout 4 Survival Difficulty With Only Melee Weapons?! | Fallout 4 Survival Challenge!
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Hello there you Beautiful people my name is Willow and today we are going to find out if I can beat Fallout 4's Survival Difficulty using only Melee Weapons! It's a fun run so make sure to like and subscribe for more just like it!
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Heyo, I hear ya about too many calls to action in the video. I can't fix it in this one of course but in future I'll limit the number of them. Hope you enjoy the video despite that annoyance! You are beautiful see ya in the next challenge run. Here's a hint as to what it will be. 🤖
Robots only? Or maybe laser weapons only? Or the savaged assaultron head knlo
Not actually a challenge suggestion per say more of a possible interesting "challenge" do a run where you HAVE to try your best to exploit ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you can (I think it could be interesting to see what exploits you know)
Interesting approach to the game live the format.
You get a sub and likes.
Fallout 4 is amazing.
Can't wait to see more.
Not gonna lie, I found it sorta funny to see the run getting stopped a few times to hear about channel memberships, some kind of repetition joke. Didn't make this wonderful video worse by any means! :)
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This guy literally woke up one day, opened his computer, and started pumping top tier quality content for absolutely no reason. Earned the subscription
Lol, I wish. I have 400+ uploads on another channel ^^
@@WillowPlaysGamesWhat channel
Totally agree. Move over Mitten Squad (and I hope you are well, brother): here comes Willow. Willow does everything on Survival with no glitches. RESPECT!
@@WillowPlaysGamesgood call nixing Blitz. It removes almost the entire challenge of melee Survival.
You have (again) persuaded me Toughness is a good pick for low level Survival.
A few minutes in I'm wondering if you will use Yao Guai Roast. I would argue that's a bug exploit.
xD
Interesting reason for why exploding vertibirds always seem to fall on you - because they are. They follow the same programming as dragons in Skyrim and they were programmed to always fall toward the player so they can be easily looted.
Huh
Those dragon be skyrocketing away sometimes man idk
That would be fine with me, except crashed vertibirds can't even be looted, so it was just laziness to re-use that logic/programming.
@@951258tike22 the guy handling the mini gun can be looted, usually has a LOT of mini gun ammo
Scorch Beasts in Fallout 76 use the same code.
A challenge idea can you beat fallout 4 as a raider (only items scavenged from raiders no legendary weapons no crafting you can use a pipe pistol to kill one raider)
Nice idea!
good one. sounds hard
That would be a cool way to see the raider dlc fully fleshed out. Maybe his goal could be related to raider settlements
Nuka world would make that challenge 100x harder and 100x easier
Most likely just finds a pipe weapon on the first raider after the bridge to sanctuary
Just a hint for the harder combats. While Stimpaks heal slowly un survival, nuka cola quantum can come in clutch with good healing rate.
I use quantum in most runs. Never mention it cause usually I use it in an 'oh shit' situation and die anyways cause I was doomed to begin with. For example in my crafting only run I used it trying to survive mirelurk queen poison only to die anyways.
@@WillowPlaysGames Quick thing for Mirelurk queens. I literally just learned this but Med-X greatly reduces the posion damage, using it against a mirelurk queen is like wearing a hazmat suit to kill the CoA, a must have
Stimpacks in Survival should be reserved for healing cripple damage in combat. For HP healing use food. For AP recovery and uh oh moments use Quantum. Refreshing Beverage is almost cheating.
Protip regarding the Ripper: Yes, it's damage is very much on the weaker side, but that is not what you should use it for. Slap the curved blade mod on it, and use it as an opener to disarm your enemies, before switching to a more damaging weapon! Should you be lucky enough to get your hands on a Kneecapping Ripper, you basically have an all-in-one disarming and crippling tool to neuter most enemies in the game.
And if you are lucky enough to find a wounding one, the damage goes through the roof.
Thanks for the info you all ^^
@@Cathode666 Staggering Rippers hit so fast, you're basically guaranteed to stun lock the enemy.
@@kyleellis1825 The best part; if you have access to Far Harbor, you are guaranteed to find a staggering ripper called The Harvester in a chest at Echo Lake Lumber
Unless you get lucky and find a wounding ripper, it's the best kind of ripper you can get
@@chaosamber7719 I did Far Harbor at like level 15 on my first character, not realizng it was DLC because both brotherhood radiants pointed that way. So that was the one I used for most of the playthrough.
Not having the blitz perk makes this run so much more unbearably painful. Good video.
MDB hitting like the Spanish Inquisition during the Mass Fusion dungeon
Lol
I wonder which is better, pickman blade or Rockville bat
I knew Big Jim would be the hero of this run. Such an astoundingly amazing early-game melee weapon, especially against mirelurks.
Love your playthrough style of treating each challenge like it's your first time learning the story and quests. Makes for some really fun commentary!
I'm glad you enjoy the style ^^ thanks for the kind comment!
@@WillowPlaysGamesYeah I'm really loving the commentary style, the more of your videos I watch. Mitten Squad has a similar "naiive" style but he's very sarcastic whereas yours is more genuine. I love it.
MDB sucker punched me since I thought I was going crazy for a minute since this is the first time I've watched a vid of yours. Great stuff though, just caught me super off guard.
glad you enjoyed and I like to keep the audience on their toes. never know when I'll get someone else to voice a part of the run!
your editing is nuts for a youtuber with not crazy subscribers, clearly you are putting 100% effort into this channel, keep it up dude! loving the vids :)
It’s so refreshing to see a Fallout 4 challenge video where the YTer isn’t super violent towards the Railroad! :) That plus you’re very funny and interesting to listen to AND pushed through what seems like the most infuriating challenge ever for our entertainment?! You’ve earned a new sub :) (Plus a like and a comment!)
I like all the factions. I think they are all horribly written and I like some more than others but overall they are all alright! and thank you! I appreciate it!
Tbh, survival melee isn't that difficult if you know what you're doing... but I agree, good content and an enjoyable watch. :)
Same, I get so annoyed at all the youtubers unnecessarily killing the railroad. The railroad has great quests and I think most people ignore or kill them simply because playing their quests would mean having to think critically about what makes us human and that's just too much thinking for many.
that's why my challenges are 'can I (as in me) beat the game' instead of is it possible. It's more of a test of myself than an example of what's possible. The challenge was difficult for me so I had fun with it :D
@@EvanBear critically thinking lmao, how sensitive
I only found your channel yesterday, but I love your style so far! Crazy hearing MDB in this video.
Oh, and there's something fun about those knights blowing up: explosions can be flagged to ignore cover, which is why it killed you through a wall. Interestingly, the Fat Man is not flagged to do that, despite it being a mini nuke.
Glad you're enjoying the channel! and yeah MDB is dope! ^^
Whenever I try to do a melee run, I always grab Big Jim from Walden Pond right away as well, the kneecapper effect seems to help a bit early on, at least in my experience. So I'm glad that idea was reinforced here. Also, the sledgehammer at Thicket Excavations provides some nice power early on.
1:07 into the video and you've already got a new sub. What an organized and polished intro, makes my brain do the happy chemicals thing
I'm glad to have ya subbed to the channel! ^^
Yeah, if you have a friendly Protectron active, and any turrets become hostile upon seeing you while the Protectron is around, the Protectron will turn on you. That's why it's always best to take out any errant turrets before activating any robots, or without any active robots noticing, to keep that from happening.
I've wondered why that happens...
I did this with no stealth, a ton of respect for this run. I've watched a few of your runs and I know how impressive this actually is. I did 11 endurance to start, 10 plus being overweight dropping it to 9 for picking up you're special. It's not a glitch if they intend you to be able to temporarily lower stats, right? The suiciders were hell. Dense armor was so vital.
Easily got a sub from me, I love this content. Challenge runs on this game have me at over 9k hours. Now I'm gonna look for the totally naked run, I've done that one too. That was HARD.
Here is a challenge you might love.
One of my favorite characters, was a character that used no weapons armor or clothes. I took the joke about going to the glowing sea naked seriously. Iron fist, all endurance perks. I built my perception enough for energy resistance, charisma for the lone wanderer, and dogmeat perks. Eventually enough strength for rooted. With a bit of work, I got my agility high enough that I could get the perk which I could run so well that it was like a travel power. I forgot the name of that perk. I also got the wasteland wander book that makes you swim faster, which turns all rivers basically into roads. Eventually built up my luck for idiot savant, bloody mess, and all the vats stuff, followed by finally filling up my strength, and agility special stats. By then, I could take direct hits from mini nukes. I never needed to carry loot, which freed my inventory for all the chems, food, water I would want. Bare hand may not hit the hardest, but it’s perfectly practical, with a good amount of attacks in vats. I had a long
So I just wanted to follow through with the joke, but it would end up feeling like I had actual super powers.
The Black Ops chest piece or other armor with Dense are a must in the harder difficulty settings. It makes it so you can withstand explosions even on survival difficulty.
I've gotten back into fallout 4 again after a few years, and I love your witty commentary and survival challenges! Great content dude!
ALWAYS A GOOD GAME TO COME BACK TO AND THANK YOU! apparently caps lock was on but I like the idea that I'm screaming that at you so uh yeah lmao
The fact that the baseball bat is the best melee weapon is hilarious to me. But hey, it is Boston after all.
(For those unaware theres multiple guaranteed legendary spawns and with Nuka World DlC it becomes I think the highest hitting melee weapon.)
(For a good mid-late game bat a unique one with 40% less action point cost for like 1k caps is sold in diamond city by Moe. A very obtainable price for a low level.)
(Late game however it's best to grab Cito's Shiny Slugger in nuka world which is better after you've had all the luck perks to trivialize AP management then you start doing crazy numbers)
(Then blitz for instant teleportation and increase damage the farther your away from your enemies in V.A.T.S.)
(Get some weighted arms for melee armor piercing and bing bada boom, you've crafted one of the consistently highest damage builds)
(Best part? All those thousands and thousands of bullets can be sold for at the lowest a cap a piece or up to 8 a piece which is insane income given the thousands of 38. You'll get after clearing a raider dungeon or two.)
very informative comment! thanks!
Super Sledge is the best if you only use base game stuff. Baseball bat is better with the Nuka world mods.
@@kyleellis1825Even base game, the regular sledgehammer is better than the super sledge for some reason.
@@Alizudo That's just not true. unless you mean how much AP it uses. But if you aren't a Melee vats fighter, Supersledge is highest damage out put for a standarn melee weapon without nuka world.
Thank you for not using Blitz and Pain Train, those are two totally OP perks that we all know all too well.
And is Pain Train even considered melee?
Im pretty sure other perks dont effect it...
It is effectively melee. It knocks down all the enemies so you can whack them with impunity
Come one people lets get this man to 1 mil dude deserves WAY more than this
No no no... He deserves by far more than a million subs.
Let's do it, but let's get 10mil
I was really expecting you to get the Kremvh's Tooth in this, but that whole area would probably be way too difficult for this challenge. There's practically no cover outside as you're going down to the bottom of the excavation site, and there's a lot of turrets and quite a few raiders with rocket launchers.
Once did a run using only Kremvh’s Tooth, due to my obsession with the Dunwich mystery. I spent, I kid you not, four hours jumping into the quarry in power armour before ditching it and speeding through the rest of the dungeon with copious amounts of jet
@@crows_are_superior4464 you are an insane person. Just like the rest of us Bethesda fans.
Was going to predict getting it, mildly sad I was wrong. It's a really cool weapon that not enough people know about.
Fun fact: Blitz can be used with the robot shutdown perk in Nuka Galaxy to shut down every robot instead of killing them to make the park more alive when you restore the star cores. It can get a bit challenging at certain parts, but it's worth it
“1 luck because i break mirrors” killed me😂
lol
honestly loving your channel, its kinda refreshing for a fo4 challenge runner to not hate everyone all the time, that's such a low bar I'm aware, but it sounds like you actually enjoy playing these games and I love that energy
But can you beat fallout as Dr Freeze? Get in power armor and stay in it, you will die without it. Use the Cryolator and avoid things that don’t care about the cold (bugs, mirelurk Queen, etc) run the institute to gain the tech to save your Frozen wife. Freezing legendary weapons of course allowed.
Similar idea: iron man, stay in the suit (.gotta keep the metal out of your heart) and use energy weapons only. Be sure to give your armor a nice paint job in either case.
Mr Freeze can be out of his suit when in his refrigerated room, so I'd say when in your garage in red rocket you're allowed to be out of the suit. Ya know, to allow for Power Armor customization
@@simonkelly1410 great idea
8:00 Uhh, interesting definition of 'rearrange'. You turned his head into a meat puzzle with a few missing pieces.
There's no missing pieces. We follow the law of conservation of mass under this roof!
Considering how many times he's died from explosions, you'd think he'd try to find/buy/make the armor mods that significantly reduce damage from explosions. Still, very fun run to watch, nice job
Another great video man, love your presentation and comedy. (I will be expecting a call for my turn on Willow's Whacky Ride through a 100 synths, preferably carried bridal style.)
Though also in making that joke a thought came of "a 100 synth dash sounds like a good inclusion for the next Commonwealth Olympic games"- which feels like it could maybe be a decent shorter video idea? Go through a series of dumb wasteland themed 'sports' in the hope of getting the nuka-medal.
>Baseball where you have to beat a bunch of raiders with bats to death, with your own bat.
>100 synth dash, survive running through (computer/engine limitation) # of synths
>Rad-water swim (survive/do some long-ish swim in highly radioactive water or full of mirelurks).
>Body-shotput (make an enemy or yourself get ragdolled X distance)
etc, etc- and of course free to use my stray intrusive thought if you think it would be something you could make a video out of!
I don't know if I'd do those video ideas justice but thank you for the kind comment and suggestion
I remember my melee run, i just made a super tanky build and just ran power armor tanking every attack whist running toward my enemies super sledge in hand 😂
45:01 jeez, there is genuine malice behind that line
In fallout 76, i have a chainsaw. It ignores half of the enemys armor, it attacks 40% faster, deals bleed and fire. Armor pen and attack speed buffs are legendary effects, while the bleed and fire are mods. It is great, shredding through things.
I’m already hooked onto your content, it’s amazing and I cannot wait to see more from you in the future!!! :)
next up is another skyrim run! there's plenty of runs on the channel already and more to come!
Hey there Willow, update on my backwards run. Vault 88 was supposed to be an easy place for xp but the radccorpion nest and sentrybot kept ambushing me. After successfully eliminating the wildlife underground i helped out Barstow with her experiments only to make her really angry. Except with the slot machine. After that i convinced her to stay and raised the difficulty.
After looking up a guide on how to get to Far Harbor, i talked to the family, stole their boat, get a warm welcome, and died to the gate. Yeah uh, no one told me that Gulpers were tough and i forgot to stock up on ammo. So i was forced to jump down from the safety of the ledge and spam the crap out of my grenades and slice them with my Sharp Steel Blade. I decided after that horrorfying experience to head back to the Common Wealth for more Radient Quests to level up a bit. While i was at it, a few more items were on sale in the Creation Club so i bought the Batman Power Armor, the Virtual Wasteland, and a few others. That somehow corrupted my save file but the run was saved by my previous save file... the gate at Far Harbor.
It was at around this point that i realized i still have Porter Gage as a follower and i still dont have his follower perk. So now i am doing Arena battles in Nuka World to level up, getting quests from Mason and Mags for caps, and acquireing more settlements to increase my freindship with Gage and to drop off my overcumbered self from time to time. Oh yeah, at some point i made the mistake of leveling up a perk in the middle of a Super Mutant fight and got stuck in a death loop. Manged to get out of that mess thanks to quick button presses and spamming Nuka Cola. I think my character has gained some weight and questions my every decision now. Mostly because he keeps slowing down from time to time and he delays his actions from my commands. Though hard resetting the console straightened him out.
sounds soul crushing tbh lol
@@WillowPlaysGames just a little bit, taking a small break from Fallout to unwind with some Lego Harry Potter. A game that might be equally glitchy but at least its short.
Lmao i'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who accepted the battery acid injection, almost pissed myself laughing when it destroyed my hp lol
5:10 I don't remember if I've seen that kill cam, but that was awesome and hilarious!
I feel your pain man, Good job on this though!
Glad you enjoyed and yeah I actually saw it a lot though the run;
@Willow You should watch a playthrough that this CZcamsr is doing, his channel name is Rhetam, he's doing a challenge run: no hit melee only survival difficulty, if he gets hit the run is over. So far it's very crazy, he does some cool tricks to survive. If you get a chance, go check it out, he's a good CZcamsr as well.
11:00 I'm hoping the whole run won't be like ArcJet Systems with Danse - cowering behind NPCs for fun and profit. 😊
Here’s an idea I had for a while:
What If the Sole Survivor was played by Danny Trejo.
(Beat Fallout 4 with a machete, pipe guns, and Molotov cocktails)
me: well yeah this run is super easy. just take blitz.
willow: bans blitz
me: oh now he is cookin somethin
Stumbling upon your content here and honestly its just quality videos and seeing more challenge runs from people after Mitten Squad passed makes me emotional keep up the great work
thanks! he was a cool dude and I wish I could of met him, I started out the channel about 10 months before it happened. he was an inspiration to many.
Man you've got a good personality and polish with your vids, it's good work!
Thanks!
New sub, really loving the resurgence of fallout content and even better on the backs of new unique channels
Glad to have you on board!
Of all things, I definitely was not expecting a Medraut cameo.
Nice.
He is a cool dude!
@WillowPlaysGames I used to be part of the peer edit team for his Pokémon creepy pastas. Super chill dude.
One thing I figured out kind of by accident is that Rooted seems to increase all around melee damage greatly, not just when standing. On my melee runs its my first or second perk selection. Love this video, melee is my favorite challenge on any difficulty or ruleset
I did a challenge run back when survival difficulty first came out. A "no bullet" run. So only melee and explosives. I don't rush the end like you do. I ended up too OP to the point that it wasn't fun anymore and abandoned it. Stealth build, of course. Chameleon and ballistic weave everything. One shoting Legendary Deathclaws. Could literally crouch at the feet of something and beat it to death without it ever seeing me. Good times.
The sudden shift to MDB messed with me. Well done
19:26 - I think that's also his torture/interrogation room. If I recall there's some stimpaks and various tools on the tray table against the wall, probably what he uses to put the screws to people (and keep them from dying).
pro tips use the ammo of the minigun in museum of freedom to buy general chao's revenge
After playing FROST for a few months, I never realized how underrated a melee playstyle is.
23:30 I think the DIA is the Fallout Universe's DIA. 😊
The DIA is a real world organisation.
Beat the game as a mimic, you must drop every item you have on kill and use every item from the enemy you slain, until the next kill. Then repeat
honest idea, go through a playthrough using only the laser musket! also again, enjoying your content!
That was dope! I'm playing on survivor mode right now. I couldn't imagine doing it with just melee weapons 😂😂😂 Kudos to you!
it was nerve racking but in the end I had fun making the video!
@@WillowPlaysGames well i did it all the time with mainly melee as i felt it more consistent damage ^^ you just need to know how to do the stuff ;P
7:44 it's amazing how flush with caps you get when you don't have to buy ammo and instead sell it all. Melee runs are more lucrative than water farming. 😂
Fallout 4 challenges are cool! Great content and subbed 👍
Glad you like them!
38:49 If you have power armor with a jet pack, you don't even have to go inside the building, you can just boost yourself up to the roof.
Finally a video where you don't lose half the footage! I can finally subscribe
Most underrated fallout youtuber ever
I appreciate the sentiment!
willow ive always wanted to see genades only run meaning all throwables are the only way you can hurt people
challenge idea also love your vids dude
glad you're enjoying the videos, and this one has been requested a lot. I'm looking into it and plan to research it at some point!
I know you prob won’t read this but I found out that after your vats kills an enemy there’s a moment of waiting before it takes you out and if you click abort after the hit it cancels the animation giving you a crucial second or two
read it!
So it’s like after your hit registers and kills the enemy press abort it cancels the after animation
Its a shame that you only have 3.8k subs. Definitely deserve more.
It'll grow ^^
I'd love to see a Mike Tyson run where you can only use boxing gloves, I can just imagine you taking down a deathclaw in the first round and feeling like a champ!
Definitely earned a sub from me, Fallout 4 is my favourite game and your content is awesome, keep it up man!
Oof. I knew that was going to be rough when you said "no Blitz," but yikes. I was considering a similar run with Unarmed weapons, which are worse, but this convinced me otherwise.
I'm probably going to do a unarmed run like this.
@Willow LOL, well good luck! I know on hard difficulty, Blitz and Moving Target really helped me with unarmed. Dense armor mods might help with those explosions. Or Shadowed armor if you want to go with mainly stealth. I'm irritated that Unarmed doesn't get the 10x from Ninja, just 3.5x.
These videos remind me a lot of mitten squad I love that you are doing the same kinds of videos.thank you willow
I am new to your youtube Channel and i must say you are making great content i will slowly watch and enjoy Fallout 4 videos of you and playing it on Survival is just perfect i love that Mode haha
Glad you enjoy it!
lovely stuff dude ❤
The fact you didn’t get Dogmeat as a companion was a wasted opportunity. After all dogs can’t shoot and they attack with their teeth. Also providing a moral booster by their permanent companion perk “Good Boy/Girl”.
I still enjoyed the video, I just wanted to be the Devil’s Advocate here.
I was not expecting my man MDB to show up for the Mass Fusion save! Nice!
I'm absolutely terrified of the war veteran who loses his wife, has his child kidnapped, and experiences the apocalypse, and decides, "I don't even need a gun for what I'm about to do."
loved the video
Keep up the good work 👍
thanks I will!
Ahh yes a survival melee build without blitz, that makes it a challenge enough
NGL I smiled when I heard MDB 😊. Your great and got my sun
My previous game I had a sledgehammer with 4 fusion cores (forgot the name of it) and was a melee/stealth class only. It was so much fun!
You can put ballistic weave on hats too, also if you put the "Dense" modification on your armor it massively reduces explosive damage.
9:07 HEATHEN! Do not find comfort in the embrace of false gods, embrace Atoms glow! Embrace Division!
lol
i’ve been thinking about the clear inspiration from mah-dry-bread through several of your videos and then BOOM
:P
15:50 actually played the song on my google home, didnt expect to get rickrolled like that
Comments like these make my day ngl.
hey, love your videos, just wanted to say that in future challenges, you could always try and give mama murphy chems to skip the greenetech courser fight, as giving her enough chems, she will tell you z2-47s deactivation code so you could skip the fight altogether to make future challenges easier
You said Hey Google Play Never Gonna Give you Up by Rick Ashley and my laptop began playing, You madman
muahahaha
that was a nice surprise! great run!
Glad you enjoyed!
No Blitz Melee run.. wow you're brave
Bro no blitz is wild. Your a savage
thanks xD
Just found your videos and tbh your just as good if not better than the big fallout CZcamsrs…great vids 🙏
Glad you think so! share it around if you wanna help more people find it! ^^ I love making these videos!
Bro having mdb come on the video is the best part of my day
thanks! It was really fun having him cameo and I love his videos :D
Oh boy. No blitz, No lone wanderer at the start. Gonna be a run for sure.
that it was!
@@WillowPlaysGames I applaud your commitment, I've tried to do it, but always resorted to a backup gun once the going got tough.
another banger my man
Should’ve bought metal armor at diamond city, it’s heavy but the physical defense is worth it over leather plus you can make it padded or dense with armorer. Don’t forget fallons basement exist! It’s hidden lol
Most of the time metal armor does as much if not almost as much energy resistance as leather armor anyways
@@DennisUrMenace I use leather chest and metal limbs.
Ah! That remind me of my first ever run for FO4. I wanted to make a melee character. Took me so long and was so hard!
I thought you had like 100000 subscribers for quality like this. Pretty suprising to see a big fat 11k staring me in the face. Keep going!
Keep testing how the calls work out. I prefered what you did last time. Like at the start, subscribe in the middle, comment at the end, or whatever. You kept them real short. But if that pissed people off not much you can do.
I will also say it's the nature of this kind of challenge that you basically couldn't do too much in the way of varied strats. I still liked it though!
15:49 You used my Google assistant to Rick Roll me. Well played.
Lmao
Those mines on survival are really brutal
I’m gonna subscribe to you man… I watched this video and I liked it. I really miss Mitten Squad, as I’m sure he’s influenced us both. Please continue doing videos like this. Thank you. 🙏
Tip for when VATS locks you in place and your character stands there like scenery: right click instantly exits VATS, and refunds unused AP, so you can reactivate VATS immediately.
keep making content like this and youll be well on your way to at least 100k
I appreciate the sentiment! ^^
Amazing video, really hoped you would do this
I know this guy is gonna get a lot more subs very fast so we’ll you have 4K subs I’m happy I can say I’m here early