What Bike Next? (Ep4) - can we help Marc find a £3k commuter?
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Welcome to What Bike Next? Episode 4 - our series in which Michael Mann and Simon Hargreaves help #BikeSocial Members find their next #motorbike.
In this episode, Marc Broome, a civil servent from Blackpool, is after a winter hack and asks Michael and Simon for help finding his perfect next bike. They select a #motorcycle each that they think will hit the spot. Then there's a third option, a mystery bike, selected by Superbike Factory's sales expert. But will Marc end up with one of these three, or go his own way?
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Video starts
00:15 Intro credits
00:38 Marc's criteria
04:59 Test route
05:45 Simon's choice
07:41 Test ride 1
08:53 Test ride 1 thoughts
11:48 Michael's choice
14:53 Test ride 2
15:57 Test ride 2 thoughts
19:04 Mystery bike
22:07 Test ride 3
23:13 Test ride 3 thoughts
25:32 Conclusion
36:32 Outro
37:49 Marc decides
38:09 Outtakes
38:27 BikeSocial ad
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Love these. Ordinary people with mainstream ‘normal’ bikes rather than 15/20k new review. Definitely a fan
I enjoy watching this series, but I think you should let the buyer pick out a bike they wanna ride too.
Would be good for them to pick first, then the other three pick based on the feedback… and the initial choice too.
@@eoghanhennessy15 I agree. That would be a good format.
This is a great idea
Nice to see a real bloke with a modest budget looking for fun and practicality all year round. This series could easily become "I've got £12k looking for a sunshine toy" like most dealerships up and down the country (although usually more PCP normally). The Hornet is a cracking bike for his needs, Honda reliability and build quality for the shitty weather, being a 600 cheap to tax too.
Cheap to tax? Not really. £80 a year vs £111, hardly a bank breaking difference.
@@flippy66 I'd rather spend the difference on a tank of fuel and a pack of biscuits than VED
I love this series! It's like an interactive game, guess what's under the veil, what will be the choice... Plus the best game we can play... looking at the classified (you know you all do that)! Plus the chemistry between Simon and Michael is developing good.
Thanks Diego, I’m really glad a lot of the comments are so positive. We’ll be making more!
Cheers, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocial will you be doing a follow up episode seeing what people have eventually gone with, would love to see.
I could watch Michael and Simon talk about motorcycles for hours! Hopefully this series comes back, I honestly love it so much.
I love how happy he seemed with the hornet, something about bikes and the visceral feeling you get from it… top series this ❤
Never thought you'd look for a bike for Paul O'Grady 🤪
I like Marc's interaction, knowledge and enthusiasm in this one. He'd make a good presenter or bike CZcamsr in my opinion. This one felt a little like Top Gear or something having the three of you debating together. Good job on introducing him to his next bike. I enjoy this series.
This is a great series - best one yet too as Marc was so good at explaining what he did and didn't like. He would make a great presenter actually, he was very comfortable in front of the camera and easy to listen to.
A most excellent watch.
A bit of real world chat about real world bikes from real world bikers.
More, por favor.
Happy, safe travels 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, plenty more episodes to follow… hopefully! Cheers, Michael
Great series you have here, I'm always trying to guess the bikes you've chosen before hand. Honda Hornet a fantastic option, and of course there's the less popular 900 version too! Personally I'd have thrown in a couple of V-twins into the mix with Suzuki's V-Strom 1000 or SV 1000 for the low down torque for commuting plus you can rev them and get a bit more sporty if you like.
I was sure there would be a suzuki v twin in there, and for proper winter riding, in the mankiest weather, the 650 with abs can be a good laugh, dont need loads of power on slippy muddy wet cold dark winter roads.
Love this series! Please keep them coming. I think they will catch on. It's a really interesting way to get bikes that are forgotten and under appreciated on people's radar!
Another great episode. Loved watching this one. Shows that we all buy our bikes based on how they look to us, and how they make us feel personally.
Brilliant series, looking forward to the next one 👍
Great series, very enjoyable. Looking forward to seeing more.
bloody love this show! great content thank you!!!!
Keep these coming chaps, they're great viewing 👍🙂
100% with naked bikes and wind blast making it feel so much quicker - is a great hack if you find yourself being too stupid on the road!
Great series lads, massive well done 👍🏻. Us bikers are itching for a decent tv series like this, it’s so addictive watching likeminded people choose their next bike. Please push for this to be an hr long tv series featuring multiple riders with different needs and wants. Keep up the great work 👏🏻👏🏻
Awesome series.. love it, keep it coming
I think you should have selected the FZS600 instead of the FZ6. Better motor in my opinion, more torque down low and an indestructible engine, I'm biased cause I have one with 60000miles and no problems whatsoever.
Loving the series guys really good job!
I have a FZ6 with 38000 miles 22000 I have done no complaints here
Best series on the CZcamss! keep em coming, please!
Keep them coming. Thanks!
Loved this, as always!
Mark is living my life in reverse. I started and still have an '02 Hornet 600f and have now recently purchased an '06 Fireblade. Great combination of bikes to have!
Often call by the Superbike Factory Cafe as I'm local. Nice to wander around the bikes. I've ridden all those bikes, and for me, the Hornet has it. Fun, handles, and unbreakable engine.
Perhaps a shame he didn't get chance to sample something other than an inline four.
I was thinking an early triumph tiger 800 would be better than an fz6 same power more torque would be a great winter bike.
@@chrishart8548 Yep, great engine 👍
Great idea and format.
Love it.
GREAT SERIES LADS! looking forward to the next episode
Thanks Ian, we’re shooting the next one in about 10 days. 👍🏻
Another excellent episode, thanks and keep up the good work. I have a FZS1000 , I use it for work but I get why the hornet is a wimmer here for the Fun factor that Marc was looking for.
Love these video.
I have a cb125f and will be looking to move up and these videos are helping me so much. Thank you! 🏍️
Great to hear! Get in touch if you’re a BikeSocial member: enquiries@bikesocial.co.uk
Cheers, Michael
Another top episode gents, and well done Marc! I owned an FZ6 S2 for a while and always wished I'd bought a Hornet instead... Great choice.
Really enjoying this series :)
Great idea of these series!
Another great episode 👍🏻
Well done Aude, knew you'd come up trumps 👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant show cheers
Once again, I really enjoy this series!
Kind of you to say so, thanks!
Michael
best series on youtube, love this
Cheers! Really appreciate that.
Michael
These are so good, I mean if this was a series on cable TV I would get cable again !!
Enjoying these enormously. Bike Social ‘Love It or List It’ needs to happen too!
Oooh, I like that.
Brilliant stuff guys! When I heard the description of his bike needs I equally thought Fazer 1000 first gen… I have one as my daily rider…. One of the best bikes as a low maintenance easy upkeep bike with all fastenings in stainless steel… 👍😊👍
Best show so far, Mark was great also. Keep em coming guys.
First time to the channel, and I REALLY enjoyed this video. Buying used and the subjective nature of what "floats your boat", was very well explored. The answer seemed clear by his reaction. It had to be the hornet.
Great series, guys. Keep them coming.
How's do you get superbike factory so quiet ? Every time I'm there, it's heaving
Great episode I have just sold a Honda X11 and Honda Blackbird and wanted one bike that does it all so did a test ride on the new Moto Guzzi Mandela. I was shocked how much I did not enjoy it. I walked through the showroom and came to Honda section. I spotted a Honda CB1000r plus with panniers. I bought it straight away. This is the point, once you are used to a make of bike their is something about it so familiar even though they are different in ergonomics. I had it delivered and it has brought a massive smile to my face. Great show thank you.
Very interesting video well made and presented thanks. Everyone likes different bikes but refreshingly no adventure stuff. He's riding to work on tarmac after all.
Great stuff, I like the Fazer..and the other bikes too :) greatings from Belgium.
Love this series 😎🍻
I'm surprised that a Honda Affica twin wasn't thrown into the mix - huge low down power, great stability on greasy roads, and will withstand the harshest winter abuse, and still clean up well. A totally different machine to the Fireblade that Marc keeps for his summer fun, so a whole different world to discover riding wise.
Would you get one for £3k I don't think it would have the performance he expects. Around 100hp was barely enough for him.
I didn't think I'd like this program but it was very pleasant and meaningful, its pretty difficult to pick the bike for you and seams mark has done it and on a budget, excellent.
Think this is a great series. Sometimes you can get so bogged down in your own preconceptions it’s great that someone gives you a different prospective.
Cheap reliable commuter, I jump instantly to a Versys 650. Also the SV650 and for something a bit larger a Honda ST1100. The Versys and the SV650 have some windscreen and nice bag options if he needs to take some stuff to work or wants to go for weekend getaway. They also offer adequate power for his commute and are both rock solid in terms of reliability. The Honda ST1100 has built in protection and hard bags making great for commuting and light touring. Also, it is a bit sportier and offers more power which might be preferable coming off the Fireblade. While the Honda might be a budget stretcher the other two should offer no trouble coming in sub 3000 quid. Lets see what the boys put on offer. Didn't go with all liter bikes for commuting, thought the 650s would be enough and better on gas. Would never have thought of the Hornet, interesting choice. Doesn't really strike me as a commuter bike though.
Just stumbled over the channel love it.
Good bloke, good advice, good work, boys.
I could watch this show all day long. Please make more!
Thanks! You’ve got four so far in the series and the fifth one is coming very soon.
Cheers, Michael
This series is so good
Since he’ll be riding it in winter conditions ABS would be a must have.
You are doing a great job, excellent.
Thanks a lot. We’ll keep going then!
Cheers, Michael
Good idea, I like this series. 5th gen VFR
At a time when the price of everything is going skywards that’s three great bikes for not a lot of money. Had an early 600 fazer for a few years and loved it. Did Assen, two up with expanded panniers and tank bag and it never missed a beat. Fazer thou for me out of them three
This is turning into a great wee video series.
Thanks! We've got a bit of a gap at the moment. Filming the next one in a couple of weeks, but it won't be live until the end of the month.
Cheers, Michael
When I wanted an all weather commuter I went for a 263 big wheel maxi scoot. It was fantastic.
Hornet is light and nimble, pair that with the direct feeling of carburated engine and you get a mega fun bike. I owned a 2006 one for 2 years sold it and bought a 2013 Hornet, tho it's a better newer bike still doesn't have that feeling like the old model did, the newer the bike is the more artificial it feels and even 200HP can't help it.
No matter the bike i will own in the future i plan on buying an old but low milage Hornet and keep it as long as i can.
Great Show , who would of expected that result, not really a fan of the Hornet looks wise but makes me think why not try one! 🤔
I had a fz6s. Struggled to do 35mpg without trying. Rear pegs stupid high.Plus point was a centre stand. CBF600 I have now defeats the Hornet because of this.
I've got a 2007 GSXR1000 and a 2018 CB650F. That Honda is so fun. I love the GSXR, but it is unsuitable for road use really. I use the GSXR most of the time for everything, commuting, shopping ride outs etc. But when I get on that inline 4 650 and ride it like I stole it, it's such a good road bike. And you know when you've hit triple digits, which is good for keeping that precious fun licence. I sadisticly even like the lack of gear indicator, it's a pure experience and you ride it by feel. The handlebars are all over the show compared to the gixxer, but it's just so engaging
Great choice the hornet, always loved the look of it. Some much better looking than the new hornet IMHO
I took my Yammie 600 diversion out today. I love the acceleration but my first love is my, 1981 Kz 550 LTD.
Nice to see a man emotional about a bike. That's what it's all about.
I would have suggested a SV650!
Please notify when/if Donnington branch of Superbike Factory will allow test rides for regular customers !
Video series is great btw...some decent detail such as discussing brake specs on the Fazer 600. It would be good to see brief info re any rider aids or as is the case here...lack thereof.
Good interaction between those involved....this series already improving. Mark was good at conveying his riding & bike needs.
Hornet fan/owner here btw 👍🏍
You know you’re spoiled when a 600 isn’t enough power “for commuting”
Nice series & some interesting bike choices , but 3k commuter and winter hack and no one picked a maxi scooter ! Bit out there but would of been better than 2 bikes but different capacities really he had a Fazer or a Hornet to choose from. I know you pick them blind maybe a rock paper scissors game to settle who can pick what brands?
Maybe we'll make it where we can only choose different manufacturers - the first one to pick a Yamaha (for example), shouts it out then the others have to choose alternatives.
I want to go to the UK just to visit this store. Great job
That hornet looked so much better than the other two. Looks are subjective of course.
You're right on them being subjective. It's been an interesting process and I'm learning about what I think I'd like for the criteria in mind isn't necessarily what our candidates have in mind!
Cheers, Michael
More entertaining reading the one star reviews of that dealer.
Enjoy watching these and this one in particular. I had a blade and bought a ktm390 duke as a second bike but ended up having more fun on the road on the little naked bike which I think Mark might find with the hornet. I ended up selling the blade for a Ninja 1000 as its almost as fast and much more comfortable but still have the 390 6 years later and still love it. The hornet was the perfect bike for Mark to go with his Blade. Well done guys. Looking forward to the next episode already
Thanks for the support Paul, glad you're enjoying. Sometimes it's the less intimidating the bike, th emore fun you can have. I rode the new Hornet yesterday but before I got on it I though it'd be bland and underpowered... wrong, it was a hoot! I want to go out on it again today.
Cheers, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocial I'm actually booked in for a test ride on the new hornet tomorrow but may have to put it off because of the weather. It seems like the perfect upgrade for my 390 duke. Shame about the looks though.
Another enjoyable episode. On a different matter, I think Bennett’s are missing an opportunity overseas. I live in Spain where biking is massive and as far as I know there are no insurance companies offering multi bike insurance. We have direct line here (Linea Directa) who operate in more than one country.
Lucked onto this. Very similar situation. Fireblade is my fun bike and the Vespa is my winter hack. 😀 Not quite enough power though but very cheap to run.
I love this series and BBS vid's in gen. Find it interesting to see how the "Star's"? Make their choices (or not,in most cases). Why did no-one suggest a twin or triple (Price range, maybe?) as Marc sounded like a staunch straight 4 guy? Still a great vid though,Thanks.
I hadn't watched to end of vid. yet, he still wasn't offered one though.
Appearing on this channel is the only way to test ride a Superbike Factory bike it seems...
Hi. It seemed like you were trying to talk him out of the hornet, bet the salesperson loved that. I had one of these (1999 model) and absolutely loved it...but I'd thoroughly recommend putting a set of Racetech gold valves in the forks like I did. They were worth their weight in gold, transforming the bike into a weapon. I did the superbike course on this around Eastern Creek raceway in Sydney. Bloody awesome!
Neither of us could believe our ears when we asked him how his ride went, we both rather obviously thought our choices were far more suitable! Thansk for the tip too - I'll pass it on.
Cheers, Michael
I paid £1000 for my "winter hack" 18 months ago, and it came with free road tax, exemption from MOT and London ULEZ charges, and cheap classic insurance. It's a 1980 Suzuki GS550L, simple, reliable and fun to ride.
I tend to struggle with the logic of buying an ‘old’ winter hack for this kind of money.
£3k for a bike that’s going to be pretty much worthless after 3-years riding suggests you’re happy to write that sum off. In which case, you’re better off going PCP on a new bike. You don’t own it, don’t have to be emotionally attached, get the benefit of a warranty, new bike reliability, and the most modern safety features that would make all year round riding a more enjoyable experience.
I do this with a Tracer 9 GT (and have done for the last two iterations), which leaves my other bikes for Sunday best.
Great epsiode. I would have gone with the RS. Special mention to Mark who was quite eloquent with his comments!
That's easy! An old GS!
Bought a 2009 CB1000R for £2800 recently (with topbox fitted) - would be a good choice here as my buying priorities are similar to Marc's 👍👍
Fazers look ace with lower fairings
My £3k commuter was a v strom 650. Bit of a Jack of all trades.
Anyone else finding that PNI6 on that plate just keeps drawing their eye and making them laugh?
1:22 “What have you got in your garage”
“Some shit tools and a set of ladders and a knackered lawnmower” 😂
Thanks for new video I love these far more than I should
Ha! We're just 6 lotto numbers away from the dream garage... what would be in yours, money no object?
Cheers, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocial this month, a street triple s, and a ninja 1000 sx - love both - always looking mind 😄
I fancy something electric and feel need to try a BMW 🥸
I had the 2002 Hornet 600 FS for nearly 20 years till it was stolen last year. I would recommend this bike to anyone who likes riding. It became a part of me after riding it for so long. I knew all its little foibles and quirks and yes, it was quite difficult to start, particularly in cold weather. But some Iridium plugs and a good blast of choke solved that. And they handle like they're on rails, in most weathers. Great bike, totally miss it, sob sob.............
This is an enjoyable series since I’m also looking for a new bike. One remark: you never mention if the bike has ABS or not. Nowadays I would never ride a bike without ABS, for me it’s a no go!
I have been ridding japanese bikes since I was 14 years old .
I bought my first non japanese bike at the age of 50 .
I immediately found that it was the bike that gave me the most pleasur,e.
This being said , I unfortunately also found out it was the less reliable and the most expensive to maintain.
Luckily , there are forums that helped me a lot to be able to repair it at very low costs .
I do honestly believe BMW s are amongst the greatest bikes , but they are amongst the most costly if you want to clock 100 s 1000 miles with them.
I am riding a R 1200 R 90 th anniversary.
Really love this bike ..
If you have a limited budget and can't fix it yourself, stay away from them .
But that s just me ..
Brilliant episode again could you post the route they use Would be good to try it out
Thanks v much!
Sure. I’ll find the route and post it.
BMW F800S or ST ? Either way plenty to choose from for between 2-3k, fantastic show and keep up the good work 👍
marc would love my fazer1, did a front fairing delete with a single 7’ headlight it definitely made the experience better for me.
I've owned a 1200 Bandit , dynojetted,, 1200S Bandit, FZS1000 and Hornet 900. Had an Ohlins and the jets done on the Fazer and it was a rocketship, amazing touring bike too. Rear wheel bearings go at 20k miles. Best bike I ever owned. The Hornet was a better bike than the Bandits, smoother, better build quality, and more rideable.
interesting video about a proper real world price bracket. New bike prices these days are crazy.
Well said Paul.