The reason I find the Alpha Legion so bad-assed is that it doesn't matter whether their primarchs are alive or dead--every Alpha Legionnaire is a legion of one.
They're also fun to read, both pre heresy and as traitors. I liked the Harrowmaster audiobook that came out recently. I like that the primarch twins are smaller than the other primarchs, but the legioniares were bigger than the other marines, so they could pass for their primarch, and the primarchs could pass for men from the ranks.
Did Dorn ever figure out that he'd murdered the wrong brother? I think it's pretty safe to say he killed Omegon rather than Alpharius. Meaning he killed a loyal Primarch.
Omegon is Cypher… he carries the Lions sword, has knowledge of the imperial palace, he seems to know the Big E or vice versa, and his use of a bygone secret shame is very Alpha Legiony. All of this and with The Lion back, the Dark Angels will have to tell him of Cypher and this will lead to the reveal. Who else could it be? Any other astartes would be so old if they weren’t a blood angel to regenerate they couldn’t maintain
I think Cypher is just a title and doesn't necessarily have to be the same astartes as 10000 years ago. Also if Cypher spent any time in the warp time becomes a mute point since there a year can pass while a thousand years passes on the outside. I don't think there exist any real indication that Cypher would be anything other then a Dark Angel and i think he should stay that way for the sake of Dark Angels lore.
@@supernus8684 that was the original title of course. Lord Cypher. It wasn’t a combat role it was lore keeper and mystic. This guys definitely not that he’s out on the move. Also Cypher had been around for thousands of years pissing off the Dark Angels and trying to get to the throne room before he helped Guilliman. So clearly active not just spat out. He’s been in real space so real time has passed with zero change in power level. He always gets away with everything just like Alpha Legion. Also how do you explain GW completely ignoring one of their Primarchs who survived the HH? They haven’t they’ve been giving us lore on Omegon for a long time it’s just been done in a slick manner.. I’ve heard other people too like Zahariel or Astelen but they don’t make sense for reasons i won’t get into but it’s definitely O. Also Big E mentions Cypher specifically to G Man telling him to wait. That’s Big E telling Omegon “I got this one I’ll wake him up and get Lionel moving if you do it it’ll be too soon” He’s basically been on a mission to save his loyal brothers and Big E sees his sons as tools and really the only things tangible in the universe outside his Custodes to enact his will. Finally in the Lions newest book he fights his brothers manifestations but not Omegon intentionally
@@erdene2476 thanks man. I would add that I think Omegon after Alpharius got the true death to Dorn, his soul went back to the Warp. Demons and the Gods have no claim over a minor one. I’m sure that’s also why Omegon left the Sol system: to save his brothers soul. Alpharius is the only traitor primarch who wasn’t chaos or warp touched(fulgrum messed that up for Perturabo trying to ascend) so Alpharius’s soul was free to enter the warp as his true form. But only half so it sent visions, locations, etc to be reunited with the other half. After Alpharius died and realized his mistake I believe Omegon was easily able to be the dominant aspect when they melded. The Big E and Malchador didn’t have to do anything or say something about what the Alpha Legion had done and they never really talk about his soul being released. It’s cuz the writers and GW didn’t want to let their cards be seen. No Alpharius on the ship with Sanguinius also. Just Ferris, the only minor warp god intact who could manifest. Alpharius was busy trying to get back to his brother since they only had precious time while the everyone literally everyone was focused on Terra… finally when Alpharius is about to die he says “Brother?” He’s not talking to Dorn. He’s talking to his twin that his warp spirit just preemptively connected to Omegon and Alpharius felt it. He was always the more powerful one or so he thought and in that moment his brothers pull on his soul was so strong it shocked him. It was the spear he wielded, an artifact relic that gave omegon real time access to his bro and why Omegon was insistent Apharius use his weapon . .. hope I’ve convinced or at least offered a plausible theory on the low key best legion
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There were 20 primarchs... if Alpha legion had 2 primarchs, that means one abandoned their own legion. Could it be that since they are masters of deception and alpharious was the same size as his sons, that a champion died not Alpherius himself? Alpharius and Omegon are one in the same and still alive. What I mind bend that would be.
I find the Alpha Legion storyline to be kind of mermaid. It'd be like a Legion whose shtick was they're all scuba divers. They live underwater, they get robot fishtail instead of cyborg legs. Their aesthetic is great, but as for the sneaky spy thing? Eh.
that second death was obviously a fake, no way robot gullyman could take Alphy, i mean golly-man needs the help of armor and an eldar lady just to keep from literally falling apart.
It has to have been him no marine or even 10 could take on gully...he killed 5 with no armour or weapon in seconds Only a prinarch can fight a primarch And gully is way stronger than people think
@@mcbain668 Yeah, noobs to 40k lore have this idea that Girlyman is weak lol... I think it's because these people haven't read any books or codexes and have gotten all their "lore info" from YT Shorts and Reddit memes.
There is actually four twins my friend two are still missing 1 traveled far out very far into the Halo Stars found something that he was not supposed to find can you go on a journey that he was not supposed to go on the other one the other one coincidences travels all the way to Andromeda through a bunch of warp slips warped tears in a strange event named a warp Cascade
sucj a good char it would be stupid if its not cypher i mean who else could it be unless he is king in yellow he also has had alot of names or working togther i mean he is there sword in the dark consastien would no to use him
If Alpharious is a primarch wouldn't he be way bigger than a space marine? How would he pass off as a astardes and even talk to other primarchs? Wouldn't they be like..."Hey you're a big sona bitch like me!" ? And wouldn't he be missing astardes implants? nobody gonna notice any of that?
@@Diditallforthexp huh , indeed it does! thanks, but that's kinda a bit of a stretch changing shape from the size of a primarch to a space marine but then again I imagine GW has a standard size set for them that none of the artwork consistently adheres to. Glad Rogal Dorn solved the matter, lol.
@@coniac420 Kind of a stretch to slightly change shape, but EVERYTHING ELSE in 40k makes perfect logical physical sense? The Emperor? Primarchs and how they move? Xenos? The warp? Clones, ancient alien shards, insane weaponry that I can't even start to describe? Men of Iron(and others)? Damn, I could go on and on and on forever here... But changing size slightly is a bit of a stretch? Hey man, you do you lol. But I am struggling to find that logic. It's like watching the whole series of Dragonball Z and going "All this flying, changing forms, energy blasts and shit seems perfectly normal day to day stuff, but their hair is standing up like that all the time? Nah, that's too far fetched."
@@Diditallforthexp I was just sticking to the topic of the video, I don't have the desire to write down every stretch of believable occurrences in the 30 years of lore,. I don't need to mix apples and oranges to question a fictional character either. All those things you mentioned have explanations to a point. If primarchs can simply grow or shrink to whatever size they want it should be stated or it's odd even for a sci-fi or fantasy. If you are that simple-minded and easily amused that you can overlook things that don't make any sense even for a scifi, well then that's great for you, some people like an explanation when something out of character happens, and as far as I know, primarchs don't change size. So if one does, yeah, they better present an explanation because it is going to be questioned. If Guillimen starts shooting lasers from his dick , there better be at the very least a poor explanation, whether his dick was lost in the warp or Nurgle possessed it, there had better be an explanation or it is not going to make sense and it is going to be questioned . If it doesn't fit into the story it doesn't fit.
@coniac420 blah blah complaining that you weren't really wrong, I was just a mean man. How dare I point out that what you said sounded like a 5 year old failing to understand what fiction is!? I didn't read your novel, but I bet you cried super hard, and I am proud of you for those big feelings. Yes, blame 40k for being too silly. Fuck off back to my little pony
plot twist - there were two emperors!
The reason I find the Alpha Legion so bad-assed is that it doesn't matter whether their primarchs are alive or dead--every Alpha Legionnaire is a legion of one.
They're also fun to read, both pre heresy and as traitors. I liked the Harrowmaster audiobook that came out recently. I like that the primarch twins are smaller than the other primarchs, but the legioniares were bigger than the other marines, so they could pass for their primarch, and the primarchs could pass for men from the ranks.
100%.. they have such interconnected spy networks, cells, resources, and xp 1 legionnaire could take down an entire world
true but Alpharius is just to cool to say hes dead to good of a char
Perhaps the real Alpharius was the friends we made along the way!
I, Alpharius, approve this message
No you prove this
@@vallinoranorvallinor7210 Shhh...Omeggy, they're gonna figure out we substituted an astartes....
@@vallinoranorvallinor7210 No, this is a lie.
Oh my good I love that you keep em coming Imperial Iterator, thank you for your great effort!!
I’ve never played the tabletop but I love the lord and if I ever do pick up a brush it will be to become Alpharius!
Some people paint them in the process of changing their appearance, it looks awesome, like they're half salamander, half alpha legion.
Alpharius: "I am Alpharius."
No I am Alpharius.
No, i am Alpharius
INCONCEIVABLE
@@artooshsybian3628 Yes it as since I Am Alpharius.
I AM BOB
Answer: yes. Probably the best primarch book also.
Nothing like some dope, over the top power armor and a bad-ass facial tattoo to remain inconspicuous... Gotta love 40k! "Hydra dominatus!"
I've been binging your videos for like a week straight now after work, your narration style is TOP NOTCH.
Plot twist, the chaos gods gork and mork were behind it
Did Dorn ever figure out that he'd murdered the wrong brother? I think it's pretty safe to say he killed Omegon rather than Alpharius. Meaning he killed a loyal Primarch.
Omegon is Cypher… he carries the Lions sword, has knowledge of the imperial palace, he seems to know the Big E or vice versa, and his use of a bygone secret shame is very Alpha Legiony. All of this and with The Lion back, the Dark Angels will have to tell him of Cypher and this will lead to the reveal. Who else could it be? Any other astartes would be so old if they weren’t a blood angel to regenerate they couldn’t maintain
I think Cypher is just a title and doesn't necessarily have to be the same astartes as 10000 years ago. Also if Cypher spent any time in the warp time becomes a mute point since there a year can pass while a thousand years passes on the outside. I don't think there exist any real indication that Cypher would be anything other then a Dark Angel and i think he should stay that way for the sake of Dark Angels lore.
@@supernus8684 that was the original title of course. Lord Cypher. It wasn’t a combat role it was lore keeper and mystic. This guys definitely not that he’s out on the move. Also Cypher had been around for thousands of years pissing off the Dark Angels and trying to get to the throne room before he helped Guilliman. So clearly active not just spat out. He’s been in real space so real time has passed with zero change in power level. He always gets away with everything just like Alpha Legion. Also how do you explain GW completely ignoring one of their Primarchs who survived the HH? They haven’t they’ve been giving us lore on Omegon for a long time it’s just been done in a slick manner.. I’ve heard other people too like Zahariel or Astelen but they don’t make sense for reasons i won’t get into but it’s definitely O. Also Big E mentions Cypher specifically to G Man telling him to wait. That’s Big E telling Omegon “I got this one I’ll wake him up and get Lionel moving if you do it it’ll be too soon” He’s basically been on a mission to save his loyal brothers and Big E sees his sons as tools and really the only things tangible in the universe outside his Custodes to enact his will. Finally in the Lions newest book he fights his brothers manifestations but not Omegon intentionally
I love this take
@@erdene2476 thanks man. I would add that I think Omegon after Alpharius got the true death to Dorn, his soul went back to the Warp. Demons and the Gods have no claim over a minor one. I’m sure that’s also why Omegon left the Sol system: to save his brothers soul. Alpharius is the only traitor primarch who wasn’t chaos or warp touched(fulgrum messed that up for Perturabo trying to ascend) so Alpharius’s soul was free to enter the warp as his true form. But only half so it sent visions, locations, etc to be reunited with the other half. After Alpharius died and realized his mistake I believe Omegon was easily able to be the dominant aspect when they melded. The Big E and Malchador didn’t have to do anything or say something about what the Alpha Legion had done and they never really talk about his soul being released. It’s cuz the writers and GW didn’t want to let their cards be seen. No Alpharius on the ship with Sanguinius also. Just Ferris, the only minor warp god intact who could manifest. Alpharius was busy trying to get back to his brother since they only had precious time while the everyone literally everyone was focused on Terra… finally when Alpharius is about to die he says “Brother?” He’s not talking to Dorn. He’s talking to his twin that his warp spirit just preemptively connected to Omegon and Alpharius felt it. He was always the more powerful one or so he thought and in that moment his brothers pull on his soul was so strong it shocked him. It was the spear he wielded, an artifact relic that gave omegon real time access to his bro and why Omegon was insistent Apharius use his weapon . .. hope I’ve convinced or at least offered a plausible theory on the low key best legion
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“We are Alpharius, we are one of many” *gets drunk and gets giant hydra face tattoo* “nuh uh! I’m not Alpharius! You’re Alpharius!”
If you could make it change or disappear at will, why not?
Plot twist, Alpharius is the Emperor and Omegon sits on the throne
They were double trouble till one was killed.
Both killed
@@mcbain668Alpharius says otherwise
Yes. Hydra Dominatus
You know, I always thought they're going to be a third alpha legion Primarch, we didn't know about it, but what do you guys think?
I can see it
@@mykelengieza7057 😊
Alpha is the beginning, Omega is the end. What would the third point be?
@@supernus8684 Sigma
@@supernus8684 Beta male primarch
Alpharius: "I am Betarius"
"The hydra has three heads after all" Deltarion probably
We are ALL Alpharius.
This feels like an I am Spartacus moment.
Maybe the real friends we have are from all the Alpharius we met along the way.
Wrong - I am Alpharius.
@@M3Lucky Get out of here Omegon!
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Best Legion
Duped by zenos and failed sooo no 😂
@@mcbain668 no. Is best. Not kiddie diddler like Lorgar or Joe Biden.
Good subject
Thanks
Why dont they say i am omegon 😂
Anyone here ever seen The Prestige?
There were 20 primarchs... if Alpha legion had 2 primarchs, that means one abandoned their own legion. Could it be that since they are masters of deception and alpharious was the same size as his sons, that a champion died not Alpherius himself? Alpharius and Omegon are one in the same and still alive. What I mind bend that would be.
We are all Alpharius. Ave Hydra Dominotus
The alpha legion seems like America
Sphlendid
I find the Alpha Legion storyline to be kind of mermaid. It'd be like a Legion whose shtick was they're all scuba divers. They live underwater, they get robot fishtail instead of cyborg legs. Their aesthetic is great, but as for the sneaky spy thing? Eh.
They were 1 person his psyche was split unto 2 bodies when he got hijacked by chaos
i also do not feal omegon true story has been told yet and thats another big question for me i mean what if the cabal rasied him?
Actually triplets, alpharius, omegon and sigmarius
SIGMAR
Johnny Sin in the thumbnail
that second death was obviously a fake, no way robot gullyman could take Alphy, i mean golly-man needs the help of armor and an eldar lady just to keep from literally falling apart.
It has to have been him no marine or even 10 could take on gully...he killed 5 with no armour or weapon in seconds
Only a prinarch can fight a primarch
And gully is way stronger than people think
@@mcbain668 Yeah, noobs to 40k lore have this idea that Girlyman is weak lol... I think it's because these people haven't read any books or codexes and have gotten all their "lore info" from YT Shorts and Reddit memes.
I love the vid but was anybody throwed off by the thumbnail and the insignia on the armor
For the Emperorrrr!
There is actually four twins my friend two are still missing 1 traveled far out very far into the Halo Stars found something that he was not supposed to find can you go on a journey that he was not supposed to go on the other one the other one coincidences travels all the way to Andromeda through a bunch of warp slips warped tears in a strange event named a warp Cascade
My name is related to this
😊
Aren't Primarchs bigger than the Space Marines? How could Alpharius pose as some captain?
Check out the wiki, there is a LOT of lore for beginners to catch up on. Also it mentions this in the first ten minutes of this video as well. 7:33
sucj a good char it would be stupid if its not cypher i mean who else could it be unless he is king in yellow he also has had alot of names or working togther i mean he is there sword in the dark consastien would no to use him
Durango confederation 10 million Zeno species all under the king of the Rhonda so many unique zenos waves of tides
More limbs than a child supposed it could have been the second or 11th 2th
4:15 Hahaha shit, this art.. Is the Emperor taking a galactic sized shit? He has those YASS GURL eyebrows too
i literally can't watch this with the photo morphing. it is honestly really bad.
Agreed, the half blinks, weird slow phasing turns, the fucked up hair and eye movements... It adds nothing but removes SO MUCH from the art.
They're both dead
Yes
If Alpharious is a primarch wouldn't he be way bigger than a space marine? How would he pass off as a astardes and even talk to other primarchs? Wouldn't they be like..."Hey you're a big sona bitch like me!" ? And wouldn't he be missing astardes implants? nobody gonna notice any of that?
Check out the wiki, there is a LOT of lore for beginners to catch up on. Also it mentions this in the first ten minutes of this video as well. 7:33
@@Diditallforthexp huh , indeed it does! thanks, but that's kinda a bit of a stretch changing shape from the size of a primarch to a space marine but then again I imagine GW has a standard size set for them that none of the artwork consistently adheres to. Glad Rogal Dorn solved the matter, lol.
@@coniac420 Kind of a stretch to slightly change shape, but EVERYTHING ELSE in 40k makes perfect logical physical sense? The Emperor? Primarchs and how they move? Xenos? The warp? Clones, ancient alien shards, insane weaponry that I can't even start to describe? Men of Iron(and others)? Damn, I could go on and on and on forever here... But changing size slightly is a bit of a stretch?
Hey man, you do you lol. But I am struggling to find that logic. It's like watching the whole series of Dragonball Z and going "All this flying, changing forms, energy blasts and shit seems perfectly normal day to day stuff, but their hair is standing up like that all the time? Nah, that's too far fetched."
@@Diditallforthexp I was just sticking to the topic of the video, I don't have the desire to write down every stretch of believable occurrences in the 30 years of lore,. I don't need to mix apples and oranges to question a fictional character either. All those things you mentioned have explanations to a point. If primarchs can simply grow or shrink to whatever size they want it should be stated or it's odd even for a sci-fi or fantasy. If you are that simple-minded and easily amused that you can overlook things that don't make any sense even for a scifi, well then that's great for you, some people like an explanation when something out of character happens, and as far as I know, primarchs don't change size. So if one does, yeah, they better present an explanation because it is going to be questioned.
If Guillimen starts shooting lasers from his dick , there better be at the very least a poor explanation, whether his dick was lost in the warp or Nurgle possessed it, there had better be an explanation or it is not going to make sense and it is going to be questioned . If it doesn't fit into the story it doesn't fit.
@coniac420 blah blah complaining that you weren't really wrong, I was just a mean man. How dare I point out that what you said sounded like a 5 year old failing to understand what fiction is!? I didn't read your novel, but I bet you cried super hard, and I am proud of you for those big feelings. Yes, blame 40k for being too silly.
Fuck off back to my little pony