As a man married to a woman from a different country and ethnicity, I agree with what Doug says about there being some increased difficulty. But I wished he would’ve also emphasized that there are unique blessings and rewards too. It is such a privilege and joy to experience the world alongside my wife and through her eyes, which enrich and bless mine. What is an even greater joy to me is that, through our marriage, we get to display the uniting power of the gospel. God has formed one new man, broken down the barriers, and there is now no longer Barbarian, Scythian, Jew, or Greek. Due to the nature of our marriage, we get to picture that in a uniquely powerful way.
I think there's a time and place for this stuff. There's nothing wrong with interracial marriage but if diversity was valued to the point where everyone did it, then gradually we'd eliminate differences, and diversity just becomes a means to a non-diverse end. I don't see diversity as a virtue, it's just the nature of reality, so it's nothing to be feared either. I actually think diversity is the mechanism that reveals our weakness and thus, points to God. It's not an either or thing, interracial is a marginal instance and I think it's supposed to stay there because most of the time I'd say those differences are things people do not overcome, the successes are the exceptions. The factor that makes it possible is your metaphysical foundations actually being the same, not different. E.g. faith, values. Personally, what I look for in a woman is one who isn't cynical as I've come to believe that that is an excellent way to gauge someone's maturity level. I also happen to get along best with similar ethnic backgrounds but I'd date any woman who was smart and not cynical...and hot.
Yeah. Just to also give this nugget, I’m convinced that what you’re saying is also what St. Paul continued to say in 1 Corinthians 7:17-24. I believe that Paul wrote about “mixed” marriages from 1 Corinthians 7:12-24. The only mixed marriage that Paul argued could be negative is one where a spouse was converted but the other remained in sin. Your words are very weighty with beauty here.
Don't quote the Bible out of context. There is no Judean or Helen, bond nor free, no female nor male. To clarify the context. He isn't talking about intermarriage or the same passage can be used to justify females and males marrying if you are consistent with your logic. Since that logic fails Bible scripture don't use it to justify your mixed marriage. Jacob had to go to his kindred to get a proper wife, kind after kind, don't mix two seeds in one field, don't mix threads of two types, curse of Balaam, Ezra/ Nehemiah made the men send away their foreign wives and children, etc... I know my post maybe jarring but I mean to clarify the word of God that you took out of context. I'm not rebuking you but interracial marriage is NOT biblical.
Mexican woman here, married to American white man. I grew up hearing from other Christian’s that marrying an American wasn’t good, because the differences between our cultures. Mexicans are known for their loud music, loud speech, family parties, etc. I’m a very different kind of Mexican. We don’t like loud parties, we are kind of reserved and we like quiet, peaceful environments. My family loves art and education, manners are very important. My husband on the other hand is very Mexican. His family is loud, they used to have lots of parties, my husband loves everything Mexican he even works with los of Latinos. He says I’m the American and he is the Mexican!! It can’t be more true! But as believers, we’ve come to the conclusion that as long as two people love Christ, your marriage will be awesome!!! There will always be bumps on the road, for every bump there will also be an increase of love and trust. There’s no Greek, no Jew!
Happy for you! I’m single and would love to have a quiet Mexican wife lol. I’m a white American guy from the Midwest and I once dated an Israeli. She was definitely the extrovert in the relationship. After meeting her family at a family party, I left with my ears ringing. It was like I’d been to a huge concert haha.
Yeah, what’s the deal with the loud parties, outside and in public? I just had Hispanic neighbors move next to me in a traditionally quiet, peaceful neighborhood. About once every month or so they’ll have a large party in their backyard with loud booming music and yelling and drunken revelry. This can go on until two or three in the morning, and often times on a weeknight. I have called the police on them at least 5 times. It seems to be culture typified by a total lack of awareness of others, their boundaries or peaceful enjoyment of their property. I could never be married to that, for that reason alone.
Vc e um assimilado , pessoas são diferentes e não há nada de errado nisso. Ouvir música alto não te faz melhor ou pior, o CARATER É IMPORTANTE. Que comentário burro e arrogante.
@@keithwilson6060 lol!! Absolutely!!! I’m so embarrassed but yeah that’s so true. For example , I had to learn so many things when I came to the states when I married my husband. In Mexico you can bump on people, just pass right in front of them no big deal. Here in USA I have to say sorry and excuse me just for walking by someone! My husband has to mention that to me and he says I’m so rude! 🤣 it’s definitely a cultural issue and it has is good and bad things. I like how in Mexico you can show up any time at someone’s house, they don’t care if their house is a bit messy, they welcome you and you feel at home! You say hi to everyone, you smile at people, talk to anyone on the street or while shopping, here in USA you have to set an appointment to even dare to show up at someone’s house, I go shopping and I have to remember no one smiles or says hi, and if you do they look at you weird. Everyone is so lonely and cold! But also people are very respectful here in USA, I like how people take care of their lawns etc are clean, they take pride in their neighborhood, Mexicans don’t have that, if there was a balance, it would definitely be a perfect world 😁
@@adrianalanbennett we're Christians and both waiting for marriage both belive in biblical roles for the husband and wife. I met her parents many times and they were lovely.
Yes and no. Two bible-believing Christians while they may never exactly be on the same page in their spiritual Faith walk with the Lord they would still be considered evenly yoked as opposed to two Christians from vastly different denominations maybe considered less evenly yoked and then there are people from completely different religions like Protestant / Catholic are Buddhists and Protestant or even Armenian and reformed might not be considered evenly yoked enough.
@@TheConqueror009Yes and no. Two bible-believing Christians while they may never exactly be on the same page in their spiritual Faith walk with the Lord they would still be considered evenly yoked as opposed to two Christians from vastly different denominations maybe considered less evenly yoked and then there are people from completely different religions like Protestant / Catholic are Buddhists and Protestant or even Armenian and reformed might not be considered evenly yoked enough.
I appreciate the straightforward, pragmatic discussion of the distinctions we all know exist yet pretend don't. Marriages between cultures, ethnicities, pigmentations, etc. are or course fine, but pretending they don't come with additional work is nonsense.
@@ttownsupreme2183simply just discussing the issues that are different in your lives, culture, family, traditions. My grandparents are both German but from very different regions of Germany they had some cultural differences that they had to work out. It wasn't a big crisis in their marriage it was just the simple fact that they came from different traditions but both love the Lord tremendously and loved each other for over 60 years to the point where my grandfather always kissed my grandmother goodbye when he took out the garbage because he said he never knew what was going to happen and he didn't want to miss the opportunity of showing his life love.
One difficulty that people never discuss is class differences. I am from the lower-lower middle class and my wife is from upper middle class essentially. It has caused many difficulties that we have had to try to resolve.
@A P My wife buys things based on brand, not price, buys starbucks often, hates buying used things (Even when they are in great condition), would rather spend 3x the price of something used for something new that is built 3x worse, talks about buying very expensive furniture when we are in no position to afford (600 dollar end table). She isnt even trying to be mean or unsubmissive, but its the amount of excess she was used to. Its taken years for her mindset to change even slightly on some of these things.
Dude, you were spot on! Unfortunately, this is an even more serious problem than ethnic or racial differences. Suppose you are an American man from Florida and have a PhD in Physics, and are also a professor at a renowned university from that state. There you meet an indigenous woman, from Peru, also a university professor and with qualifications, values and world views extremely similar to yours. Man, I can guarantee you that you will work out much better, as a couple, than if you were a white prison guard in a Florida prison who was trying to date an equally white girl from the same state who had a medical degree and whose family is made up of famous doctors. In good conscience, do you think you will actually be able to marry this girl, and if you do - because love is not impossible - do you think you will be able to maintain this relationship? That's why I think class differences play a more important role here than race/ethnicity.
pastor Doug doesn't approve, you do get that right? This guy is a white supremacist, he talks a whole lot of baloney around it to deflect from the fact but he's a white supremacist. He wouldn't bless your union in his world.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. My father is an Appalachian American of Scots-Irish Presbyterian and English Separatist ancestry while my mother was born and raised in the Philippines as a Catholic who left Catholicism for non-denominational Christianity after Pop got her into the Bible. I wasn't raised with any of my mother's culture and, aside from half of my biology and genetics, I'm, as Merle Haggard sang, "a white boy looking for a place to do my thing." I don't hate or even dislike being half-Filipino, and I claim that heritage proudly, but it'd be dishonest for me to claim that it is without problems or issues. For example, being half-Filipino made me stop at 5'10" and 180 pounds in a 6'8" and 280 pound family on my dad's side, which placed limitations on my ability to do the same kind of farm labor as them. On the other hand, when we went to visit my mother's family in the Philippines, I 1. didn't speak the language and couldn't understand much of anything being said and 2. towered over everyone in that part of the country as an absolute hulk. Now, apply that aspect of being different from both and not being entirely either to just about every aspect of life, including occupational. I have been turned down for jobs because I was "Asian, but not really Asian." They'd see that a half-ethnic minority would be on the application roster and get excited that chopsticks and furaido raisu was about to walk in the door. When a guy who looks like Markiplier but talks like Waylon Jennings walks in and thanks them for taking the time to interview in a Southern drawl, their facial expression matches how they'd look if they'd just shaken hands with someone who doesn't wash up after wiping. I'm not Asian enough to satisfy people who want me to be Asian and I'm not white enough to just get by enjoying life as the Southern white boy I was raised to be because folks always want me to be Asian. Being a mixed race couple can pose both blessings and difficulties to folks, but I can also say from experience that there can be many difficulties for offspring of mixed race couples, and the only blessing I've found in it is my Filipino half slowing down the heart condition inherited from my American half. I'm not saying that being a mixed-race offspring is a bad thing or even that I dislike being half-Filipino, but it sure has made life a lot more confusing. It's been an interesting ride with many struggles and issues, but one I've thus far relatively enjoyed.
As a never married man I wouldn’t care about ethnicity at all it’s hard enough for decent people to meet, I would only care if she’s a Christian. I’m sure superficial things like this keep a lot of good people apart.
If both are Christians; who love and serve God, with God and His Holy Scriptures as their first authority, staying in the Scriptures and being prayerful people, most of the cultural or ethnic issues within the marriage can be and will be resolved. Yet, the families of these couples, the Church congregation, and the friends and work environment might present unnecessary challenges, but God can give victory dealing with any naysayer.
The one thing that seemed conspicuously missing from this analysis was how important having the same religious beliefs is. It could be that it goes without saying, but in my experience among friends and family, two white people with very different Faith traditions is often a disaster.
My wife was born in the Philippines but was raised in LA from the time she was 2 years old. I grew up in Northern California so we are as culturally similar as a SF kid and an LA girl can be (which is different in case you're not aware). However dealing with her family, who all grew up overseas, has many times been challenging for me. They are nice people but there are definitely practical difficulties and misunderstandings due to differing values and culture. I think it is good advice to understand that and go into it with your eyes open. I know from experience. I am not divorcing over it or anything, we are very happy and have been married for 20 years, but I agree that it would be silly to not realize that there will be some challenges.
That can happen in any family. It happens between families of same ethnicities. I think everyone no matter who they marry, needs to understand family boundaries. Sometimes families want to control newlyweds, specially in those cultures, but if the woman loves the lord, she will submit to her husband and give priority to him, he is her family now.
I don't think that's what doug was saying, he was pointing out that you should be aware that there might be some challenges along the way if you marry somebody from a very different culture or ethnic as your own. This doesn't mean the marriage will be a failure that just means there will be some challenges to overcome. Both my grandparents came from Germany but from very vastly different regions of Germany and while they had a marriage that lasted over 60 years and was full of love they also had cultural differences to address and adjust to.
I am mixed race. The only problems to begin with was that My dad, due to his culture, was very politically incorrect and Mum had to warn him otherwise he might have lost his job.
This video doesn't quite hit the ball out of the park. A brief aside - It's not entirely true that all differences between races are purely ethnic (ie, cultural). Some are biological, and may or may not affect a marriage positively or negatively. But against the backdrop of all the larger differences in any given a couple (male vs female; this culture vs that culture; this household vs that houshold; this tradition vs that tradition), any real differences on the biological level amount to background noise and are not easily detected. But again, this kind of nuance can't be properly sussed out in 5 minutes. Moving on... Our kids are bi-racial, and I deliberately made it a point to raise them so that if anyone had a problem with our race, the problem was theirs, not ours. My wife and I didn't "equip them to be black in a black America" (@2:40 - Wilson and I disagree on that point). Instead, we raised them to be God-fearing people, and trained them to ignore people who would get a knot in their knickers over our race. Or our religion. Or our locale. Or any other immutable trait that God assigned us. Thankfully, when it comes to their race, our kids received almost no flack (or attention, for that matter). It's a sign that times have changed since I was a kid. And truth be told, it also has to do with where they were raised - namely, in a rural mostly white, conservative community that is largely indifferent to race. I've lived in other locations in the USA that weren't nearly as indifferent to race, and I preferred to not raise my kids in that environment. Some subcultures in the USA feel quite free to impose demands on how xyz people ought to live just because of their xyz skin color. I speak from personal experience, of course. [To put a fine point on it, in the USA, black people are far more free to impose behavioral norms on other people who are black. This is not opinion - there are actually Pew research data to back this up, but you have to read between the lines. This is the essence of racism, and it would be good if the Church would address it more pointedly.] So if we did live in a more urban environment, our kids' race might have been more of an issue, and would have required more training in that regard. (And I'm willing to bet that another reason why their race was largely a non-issue for them is also because of the fact that they happen to be quite beautiful. I say that without a shred of bias, of course ;) ) Our kids are now adults, and they don't care one whit about race. Which is as it should be. They've traveled internationally and visited numerous various cultures across multiple continents. They treat race like they treat the fur of their puppies: nice, but irrelevant when it comes to personality and character. Which is as it should be. And yes, out of the 40+ countries and 4 continents I've been to, I can say from personal experience that the USA is one of the least racist countries I've ever been in. By far.
I agree. If a child has a black parent and white parent, the child is bi-racial. True, some may "see" him or her as black but that doesnt make the child black. Just as it wouldnt make them white if they were perceived that way. The truth is what only matters and is what we should build upon. A bi-racial identity. Im surprised doug would see it the other way. Im glad in how you chose to raise your children.
Great - let’s hope they are fighting to stop the South having its backbone ripped out and all public honoring of anything even vaguely associated with the Confederacy scrubbed, in one of the most shocking and horrifying campaigns I have ever been unlucky enough to witness in my country.
@@ZephaniahL Unfortunately, your comments are too vague for me to know what you're getting at. FWIW, neither I nor my kids "fight" for anything that's not in their field of view. They already have enough to keep them occupied.
@@timffoster Wow, if that is too vague you must really be clobbered over the head with a subject. I think I was pretty clear in alluding to the scrubbing of street, neighborhood, monument, holiday and now military base names in any way linked to the Confederacy. Surely you do not drny this is happening. And my point is that thoughtful Americans of any background should be opposing this massive exercise in Newspeak; the media instead portrays it as a thoroughly racialized issue, as though only whites would oppose this, and those who do so because they are either brainless or wicked. A good blow for color-blindness could be struck if children are not encouraged to learn different versions of American history based upon their ‘race,’ and if, as you say, your children have experience of a conservative rural area, my hope is that they can overcome this trend. The nuance and grnuine disagreements involved in antebellum politics are a good test case, as they are being so grotesquely distorted in even congressional circles. And of course we now have a Democratic party leader in Jeffries who pals around with his black supremacist uncle, Leonard.
There is the most complication when you put a man and woman together who think from completely different places and tell them "You'll be perfect together." Talk about looking for problems! This is ridiculous. If that is your argument, no one should ever marry. (Matt. 6:34 - quit looking g=for trouble, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself....)
Wilson. The great subtler. Elevates a topic like "ethnicity" to the top of the importance spectrum, which is a composite and in close proximity to race in realistic terms (numerically, statistically), and pushes a controversial, white supremacist opinion with no one noticing. His complete inability to emphasize the good aspects of inter-ethnic and/or inter-racial marriages emphasizing my point. Rather than a balanced, wholesome opinion, Wilson has subtly skewed the perspective of the viewer by not presenting both sides of a very balanced mathematical equation. My case nearly rested. Listen to this man heartily, thoroughly, diligently, analytically, and avoid his counsel my good CZcamsrs. Love you all.
1. He didn't elevate it to the "top of the importance spectrum". He was asked a question about that specific topic and so he spoke on it. I'm sure if he was asked about couples with different views on finances, he would have something to say on that and nobody would think he is implying that personal finances are issue #1 for couples. Your intentionally deceiving here. 2. What exactly are the benefits of interracial marriage in contrast to a interracial marriage ceteris paribus? Every study out there speaks to the disadvantages of mixed race kids, for example. Besides a wider array of dishes at the dinner table, I'm not sure what these unambiguous benefits are? Anytime someone ventures outside of their in group, it's going to bring with it a lot of problems. Those problems might be offset by benefits that accrue on an individual level, but the disadvantages are a lot larger in a generalizable context.
@Wolfschanzeful sounds like the jurisdiction of a man as head of his own household to manage not for a church or nation to even speak on. Ur assuming you have a say in a jurisdiction that doesnt belong to you or the church. Not for you to socially evaluate the benefits of somebody else's individual marriage and householder ir the vision for their home or if there's some a larger social benefit for other people. That's ridiculous. I'm white and surly a very different culture than even the people who grew up in my same Community. Whatever benefits that I have and blessings that I have to give to my marriage and family are not any of your concern or of any social concerns. The point being who cares if you dont understand. There is no social Logic for you to get . That's somehow by you understanding intern that somehow makes it okay for other people to have interracial marriages because somehow you see the benefit to it. Very self centered to think for something to be okay that somehow you or others have to socially understand the benefits of it. Everyone thinks that everything is a social problem... that everybody else gets to have a say ...in and how everybody else does things and it's truly crossing jurisdictional boundaries... this crazy psychotic socialism... that everybody thinks that they get to have a say in jurisdictions that belong to individual men. If you don't see the benefit of somebody else's life but they're wrong. Even those who choose to be pilgrims and separatists choose to live their own lives and yet there's a huge group of people who feels they don't see the social benefit of it so that group of pilgrims must be wrong. Socialist training at its finest, turn another man's life into a social problem for yourself so that you can tell other people what to do.
What an utterly vacuous take. So, he's saying, two people from different backgrounds might have cultural differences to consider. Wow, such deep wisdom.
When I was in my 11th grade Bible class, my Bible teacher told the class that white parents would be more upset if their daughter married a black Christian African- American man vs. a white non-Christian man. This is so sad. No verses in the Bible forbid interracial marriage. Having said that, Wikipedia contains a table with an interesting statistic that shows that black men prefer white women 28 times more than white men prefer white women. Reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States To derive the 28X, simply divide column 3, row 3 (8.6) by row 1, column 6 (0.3). Therefore 8.6/0.3 = 28.
Uncomfortable subject but I suppose I agree. I had a friend, American born, mostly raised in the Hispanic culture. She always preferred the aesthetic of white men. She married one. Later she came to realize that for some reason, even though she is American and he is American there were several distinct differences between how they conducted themselves and viewed the world. She admitted she should've considered these things before getting married. But Idk because maybe he's just a jerk. Or she's the jerk. 😂
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. I'm mixed race (black white and olive) my husband a white man when we met 2003. God told me he is a black man but didn't know it, and the evidence was by looking at he's father who looked quite dark olive. Well, years later, my husband turned 40, and he found out through his father that he was indeed a black man. His parents never told him about his father's race, how sad. He grew up thinking he was white and he was a sinner, but as he was being saved, he was pulled more into his true identity as a black man it brought him closer to God. God said we have been scattered around the world therefore we are mixed race. We have issues in our marriage because we are sinners until being saved. We all have the same issues problems because of our generational curses we must work on until our bloodline is pure thats what we are working on as Gods people ❤️ 🙏 💙 The battle is real and the enemy is a liar 💯
The medical community acknowledges that race consists of more than skin color, as they take your race into account when determining your risk level for certain diseases. The fact is that race is a biological reality, playing a big part in how we think as well the kinds of societies we form. Pretending like the physical differences among races do not extend to differences in the brain is absurd on the face of it, and denying those differences is part of what leads to so much misunderstanding whites have regarding how to deal with other races, particularly blacks. Interracial marriage can work, of course, but treating such couples as if their racial differences will play no role in the dynamic of their relationship is foolish and reckless.
They also like to know your blood type, your height and weight, your level of physical activity, and your family history of certain diseases. Yet will you avoid marrying someone of a different blood type because it's harder to understand them? The challenges involving "race" and understanding the brain is not going to be something explained away by nothing but physical attributes. Heck, your brain is going to have more in common with a white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever 'race' or ethnicity of the same sex than it will with the brain of a woman of your own ethnicity - even your own first cousin, if you decided to go that route. (Not just the brain, either. Men and women differ in every part of their bodies. Every single organ is a different size and is optimized in different ways. Archaeologists can unearth a single bone and tell whether the skeleton was male or female.) If we aren't going to caution against opposite-sex marriage because of the physical differences alone, we shouldn't caution against interracial marriage because of the physical differences alone. If we were, then a white man would be better off "marrying" a black man than choosing a white woman. I think that there is at least as much danger in overrating the "racial" physical differences as there is in underrating the challenges of breaking language and culture barriers.
I readily affirm that there are biological, physical and physiological differences between races, which is why I think it's not a useful argument to insist that we are all one race. I get the sentiment, but at the end of the day, its not a useful position to take. The challenge is that you usually can't reverse-engineer it. Within each "race" exists a wide gamut of features. Even if said features coalesce around a statistical norm (making a bell curve), there's no way to know in advance if a particular person's place on that bell curve is due to race, ethnicity nature or nurture. So no matter how you slice it, you have to treat each person and an individual, not a product of their race/ethnicity/culture/family. That's the problem with CRT: it replaces the individual identity with group identity.
For a man who usually gets it right, with respect to black and white marriage, I have to say that Doug gets it very wrong on this one. He gets it wrong because of something that he usually warns against: uncritical acceptance of secular categories. That the child of a white man married to a black woman will be considered to be black by society really shouldn't come into the calculus of the man's consideration of whether to marry a black woman (all other things being equal of course, including the fact that both man and woman are committed followers of Christ). Doug should know as well as anyone that considering the child of a white man and a black woman as black is an ungodly relic of early America, when blacks were seen as less than human--the one drop rule. When did the progeny of that Satanic anthropology become something Christians ought to submit to? (Accepted as it might be by society at large--including, and erroneously, by blacks) For someone who regularly calls many back to scripture, to have their worldviews shaped thereby, it is rather curious that he would concede to an incorrect and unbiblical worldview here. Ironically, and sadly so, he is unwittingly part of the problem that the hypothetical white father will have, by seemingly affirming, at least in part, the skewed view of race, unmoored to reality, that is prevalent in America.
Benji - I largely agree. Furthermore, Not everyone in America will treat bi racial kids as "black". Nor should they, because 'black' isnt just skin color.
Ironically His view is actually more "woke" than so called "Tolerant" peiple. He is aware of differences in langauge culture beliefs etc. You are God sent Doug Wilskb
Luke 14:26: "“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple." Jesus was not saying to hate everyone and escalate evil. He was saying that you have to understand how complex and common hate is to follow his love. 36 Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.” 37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. I'm not exactly sure if this has an ethnic meaning and I don't think it was a racist quote. But it is easy to believe that he was referring to the idea that people are different. Some are good and some are bad. Regardless of what we believe about racism. At the end of harvest, it is the angels (spirits) who reap the best harvest (people). I can personally relate this to interracial marriage in defense of my own views, as that is something I would think whether useful or harmful to other people's interpretation. Would be nice to ask Jesus this question although I'm not sure I would get a straight answer because there might not be one. Additionally, Jesus and the apostles talk mostly in parables trying to disguise anything that would be interpreted as disrespectful as it would be less practical to stir up hatred. Although, I've hated plenty and will probably continue to if the world keeps getting worse I do not believe this approach is for everyone. However, according to a continued search using AI the bible does provide guidance on various aspects of relationships and marriage. Deuteronomy 7:2-5: In this passage, God instructs the Israelites not to intermarry with the pagan nations around them. The concern although possibly allowing for ethnic consideration is referenced more as a spiritual fidelity problem. God wanted His people to remain faithful to Him and not be led astray by foreign gods. Joshua 23:11-13: Joshua warns the Israelites against associating with the remaining nations in the land. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity. Marrying someone from another nation could lead to idolatry and compromise their faith. Judges 3:5-8: The Israelites did not heed God’s warning and intermarried with the Canaanites. As a result, they turned away from the Lord and served false gods. The issue here is mainly spiritual compromise, but possibly racial differences. Genesis 24:1-4: Abraham instructs his servant not to find a wife for his son Isaac among the Canaanite girls. The concern is about faithfulness to God’s covenant and maybe leaves enough room to consider ethnicity. Ezra 9:12: Ezra emphasizes that the Israelites should not give their daughters in marriage to foreign men. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity and maybe ethnicity. Galatians 3:28 (New Testament): Paul declares that in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female. This verse emphasizes unity in Christ, transcending racial and social distinctions through Christ's following. 2 Corinthians 6:14 (New Testament): Paul advises believers not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. While this verse doesn’t specifically mention interracial marriage, it highlights the importance of reproductive norms in faith relationships. In summary, the Bible does not support or prohibit interracial marriage based on race alone although it does emphasize foreign and religious differences in choosing for a good marriage. Primarily, it emphasizes faithfulness to God and the importance of shared spiritual values in relationships. Love, respect, and commitment are essential, regardless of ethnicity. However, the possibility that ethnicity is relevant in marriage is still widely believed in my personal opinion even if less and less people are going to be capable of admitting it in the future.Luke 14:26: "“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple." Jesus was not saying to hate everyone and escalate evil. He was saying that you have to understand how complex and common hate is to follow his love. 36 Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.” 37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. I'm not exactly sure if this has an ethnic meaning and I don't think it was a racist quote. But it is easy to believe that he was referring to the idea that people are different. Some are good and some are bad. Regardless of what we believe about racism. At the end of harvest, it is the angels (spirits) who reap the best harvest (people). I can personally relate this to interracial marriage in defense of my own views, as that is something I would think whether useful or harmful to other people's interpretation. Would be nice to ask Jesus this question although I'm not sure I would get a straight answer because there might not be one. Additionally, Jesus and the apostles talk mostly in parables trying to disguise anything that would be interpreted as disrespectful as it would be less practical to stir up hatred. Although, I've hated plenty and will probably continue to if the world keeps getting worse I do not believe this approach is for everyone. However, according to a continued search using AI the bible does provide guidance on various aspects of relationships and marriage. Deuteronomy 7:2-5: In this passage, God instructs the Israelites not to intermarry with the pagan nations around them. The concern although possibly allowing for ethnic consideration is referenced more as a spiritual fidelity problem. God wanted His people to remain faithful to Him and not be led astray by foreign gods. Joshua 23:11-13: Joshua warns the Israelites against associating with the remaining nations in the land. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity. Marrying someone from another nation could lead to idolatry and compromise their faith. Judges 3:5-8: The Israelites did not heed God’s warning and intermarried with the Canaanites. As a result, they turned away from the Lord and served false gods. The issue here is mainly spiritual compromise, but possibly racial differences. Genesis 24:1-4: Abraham instructs his servant not to find a wife for his son Isaac among the Canaanite girls. The concern is about faithfulness to God’s covenant and maybe leaves enough room to consider ethnicity. Ezra 9:12: Ezra emphasizes that the Israelites should not give their daughters in marriage to foreign men. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity and maybe ethnicity. Galatians 3:28 (New Testament): Paul declares that in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female. This verse emphasizes unity in Christ, transcending racial and social distinctions through Christ's following. 2 Corinthians 6:14 (New Testament): Paul advises believers not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. While this verse doesn’t specifically mention interracial marriage, it highlights the importance of reproductive norms in faith relationships. In summary, the Bible does not support or prohibit interracial marriage based on race alone although it does emphasize foreign and religious differences in choosing for a good marriage. Primarily, it emphasizes faithfulness to God and the importance of shared spiritual values in relationships. Love, respect, and commitment are essential, regardless of ethnicity. However, the possibility that ethnicity is relevant in marriage is still widely believed in my personal opinion even if less and less people are going to be capable of admitting it in the future.
We cannot deal with that. We need an identity to which we can belong and value. Globalist ideology simply gives us the participation trophy of identity. God made all believers into one body and that is an identity that we can belong to and value.
There is only a color spectrum. There is no red, green, blue. Nonsense and confusion. There are races and each are unique based on so many biological attributes. In genetic clustering of DNA samples people group together in races then further break down to ethnicities. God made all men of one blood. Just like all crayons are made of one color. That doesn't mean each crayon is the same color just all red crayons are made of one color and all blue crayons are made of one color. God determined there appointed times and bounds. It's secular tower of Babylon thinking that says we should mix those. Yes of course foreigners can sojourn in lands. But if a foreign man goes to Japan and takes a woman, land, government position he is trying to steal his brothers allotment. Go home and take a wife from your kindred as Jacob did.
race (n.2) [people of common descent] 1560s, "people descended from a common ancestor, class of persons allied by common ancestry," from French race, earlier razza "race, breed, lineage, family"
If he means that these are potential problems to be considered before marriage, I think its wise. However, Christ calls all nations to come together in a reversal of the division that occurred at Babel. I would expect this to happen in Christian churches as well as individual homes. However, a healthy church in Moscow, ID would no doubt be less diverse than one in a major city with a more culturally diverse population. Thanks for the video!
Christ does not call all nations to come together in a reversal of Babel. He states that the only place conflict truly ends betweeen ethnos is in the church through Him. These are entirely different things. Don't hamfist globalism into Christianity by rewriting scripture.
As a catholic marriage is a sacrament, so if you and the intended spouse are not of the same religion I would consider the marriage to be very problematic, to use the word. As a catholic I have communion with many amazing ethnic groups and am multiethnic myself due to that.
There is also a distinct possibility that today’s rebellious generation may seek out an inter-racial relationship to push this rebellion, especially in this BLM environment, to prove that one is not “racist.” This could be one of the worst reasons to enter into an interracial relationship.
@@urzmontst.george6314 Doesn’t any parent have reason to fear that rebellion motivating unwise behavior might lead to lasting deleterious consequences for their child?
If there's one race then why does an Asian couple have asian children and not some white, black and Asian and the same for white and black couples. It seems that consistency tells otherwise
Viewer , please understand that Doug Wilson is stemming from a Christian Nationalists point of view. Read “A case for Christian Nationalism” and you’ll understand more where he’s coming from.
Clearly Doug doesn't understand or pretends to not understand that race is far more than skin color. I ran a discussion on the topic here (Part of a series). czcams.com/video/prMria6LefY/video.html Some of what he said is true here, but he is scared to embrace the entire truth because of the backlash he and his ministry would receive.
Faithful Nation - whether racial categories are legitimate or race is more than just skin color is not relevant to this advice though. Doug gives good advice regardless of what you’re pointing out. If you’re a creationist, you do believe that we all have the same parents, so Inter-marriage is not strictly prohibited but rather should just be considered carefully as Doug said.
@@ConciseCabbage I agree, as I stated in my original comment. But my criticism is based on Doug's unwillingness to profess obvious truth. Race is more than skin color and more than culture. Thus it is a highly important factor when considering marriage. I think Doug downplays its importance, yet at the same time I acknowledge that many Kinists overplay its importance. I discussed the topic here: czcams.com/video/796nOx9RoN4/video.html
@@ConciseCabbage Did god give that impression in the OT? Did god create the separate nations and their borders? What did God say about the descendants of mixed people entering his kingdom in the OT? IF god was an ethnonationalist in the OT, if it safe to assume that he is exactly the opposite now?
@@justinkase1360 All through the Old Testament, we see instances of gentiles being brought into the covenant. Just to mention one, think of Jesus' example of Namaan in Luke 4:27. Gentiles were being brought in more and more until the incarnation, at which time Paul explains that there's a massive ingathering of gentiles (which is the fulfillment of OT prophesy). Israel was elect for a purpose. The purpose was to be a light to the nations and the source of salvation. So, yes, that meant that they had to be absolutely pure with no trace of idolatry in them. And it's also why when they forgot their purpose, God judged them and showed favor to gentile nations instead, for example. God is not a respecter of persons. What did John the Baptist say? God can raise up believers from rocks! If you think that God truly cares about your ethnicity, or if you think that your ethnicity will save you, then you misunderstand the purpose of election in the first place.
@@ConciseCabbage Excuse me because I'm actually new to Christianity, but I don't know all of the cases you reference. I don't doubt that some gentiles were brought into the fold and especially with the coming of Christ, as is prophesied in the OT as you note. I think Israel serves mostly as a cautionary tale and that their story is not exactly one of pureness. At least not in the spiritualness. After all, there is a reason for the new covenant. God knew exactly the path they would take and they commit the ultimate sin, which is the hating and killing of Christ. I think we see this in their nature, even today. In the end they will be won over, of course, but that will not prevent them from attempting to bring about their "messiah", which I think is also prophesied. I know it's not the typical interpretation. God does not care about our ethnicity as it relates to salvation, all can be brothers and sisters in Christ. I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought otherwise. However, does God involve himself in the matters of nations? Undoubtedly. I do not tie any of this directly to salvation/election, as in that it necessarily prevents salvation. Although this is referenced in part of the OT, to the tenth generation (presumably beyond). I do think it is a sin.
Race is a genetic term. It relates to the concept of ethnicity and is not defined in any cosmetic term. Race has a use in biology because it identifies what diseases or conditions you will be prone to. That is all that it means. We have chosen to turn race into a grouping of cosmetically similar people even though they have nothing in common. It is my belief that, if nobody intervened, we would eventually become a single race again.
No, race is real and race matters. While it technically isn't a sin that doesn't mean that it's inherently good or beneficial. Generally, I would advise against it since it can be very difficult compared to marriage without racial or ethnic issues. You're effectively just artificially increasing the difficulty of your marriage for no reason.
No, you are effectively just artificially making this a big problem. It shouldn't be of higher difficulty then any personality, deep cultural or social status differences unless one of the involved is racist
I know this is old, but it's just one of the many problems that come into marriage in general. Same goes with choosing to marry someone with a medical problem. You're making it harder by marrying someone not in peak physical form. But, if there are very few spiritually mature Christians around you, and the only one in your age range who is the opposite sex is a different race, then what are you going to do? Burn with passion alone? Pick someone who is immature but the same race? Whoever you marry, it ought to be one who is spiritually mature first and foremost. Physical qualities and family/cultural backgrounds come next
@@umbrellathegreatdetective5423 The odds of you not being able to find someone of the same race to marry is astronomically small unless you're mixed or something. If you happen to fall in love with someone of a different race that's fine, there's nothing immoral about it. I agree that personality matters way more than race, but I'm just saying that when you're looking for a potential partner you should at least try to prioritize someone of the same race as to not overcomplicate the marriage.
Nothing in this video is rocket science. I would imagine that all of these differences are obviously things that one must think through before getting married.
@@timffoster I'd also add "age" onto that. Obviously all people older than you aren't necessarily smarter than you, but almost every culture in the world, including Biblical cultures, consider those who are older than them wiser than them, and thus go to them for counsel.
Subspecies or more accurate would be individual species but political correctness will not allow truth. If humans were any other animal they would be broken into different species.
@@goldknox9629 thanks for your answer, but it seems to me that the different human "races" cannot be considered different species because we can mate across them. Humanity is one species.
The race-denial here is just downright silly. Maybe from 90%+ lily white Moscow, Idaho, you don't really see the differences on a day-to-day basis. But try living in South-Side Chicago for a year and then report back to me. You'll feel safer and more at home anywhere in Romania, even in the most remote village, than you will there. The simple fact of the matter is that a Romanian and a white American share far more in common culturally than a white American shares with a black American. There's a reason for that, and that's because race is more than just skin deep.
Slavwave I have more on common with a black baptist than a Romanian orthodox because I am baptist. I came from the ghetto and had black folks in the ghetto hate me- they weren't Christians though. Christ changes everything and everyone if he wills it. Blacks who live in lily white Idaho because they are seeking a better life thrive here and they are my brethren.
@@AJHurley uhh no, he clearly said that American blacks and American whites have more in common than Americans and Eastern Europeans. As an American white who was born and raised in an inner city, and has traveled extensively across all parts of Europe, I couldn't disagree more.
@@objectivistathlete Sure. But the main question your point raises is one of race, while the rest of your argument is one of culture. Different "colors" of people that assimilate to European culture don't have the same issues in which you're speaking. In other words, there is nothing intrinsic in the DNA of non-europeans that cause them to behave differently. Culture is a bi-product of worldview and worldview is a function of discipleship.
@@NikkiSchumacherOfficial "more in common with" isn't really a helpful way to think of things. Your faith is more important than your race, and we'll be going to heaven with members of every nation and without related infidels, but that isn't an argument in favor of the permissibility of miscegenation.
the bible says that the white woman was made for the black man ever much as the white man there is no distinction1 corinthians 11:9 1 cor 7:39 she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord
Of course! Doug is agreeing with that, just simply adding that there ARE difficulties there that people like to pretend don't exist. I saw another comment that mentioned class differences (i.e. he was low income and she was high income as kids) and it caused many issues. This is real and it's a lie to tell ourselves it might not cause a problem. Of course we are all equal heirs in Christ and any marriage like this can work out phenomenally and many have.
There is only a color spectrum. There is no red, green, blue. Nonsense and confusion. There are races and each are unique based on so many biological attributes. In genetic clustering of DNA samples people group together in races then further break down to ethnicities. God made all men of one blood. Just like all crayons are made of one color. That doesn't mean each crayon is the same color just all red crayons are made of one color and all blue crayons are made of one color. God determined there appointed times and bounds. It's secular tower of Babylon thinking that says we should mix those. Yes of course foreigners can sojourn in lands. But if a foreign man goes to Japan and takes a woman, land, government position he is trying to steal his brothers allotment. Go home and take a wife from your kindred as Jacob did.
It's sad to see a man I really respect suggest that race is really just ethnicity and use the term "problematic" to boot. I'm 30 seconds in and I already know where he is likely going, it saddens me. Let us not lie to people or ourselves, Doug. Can we please be honest? There may be ethnic differences among any given race, but RACE is a larger division that ethnicity. I think it's a simple fact to recognize that people from the UK (genetically) have more in common than they do with people from Africa. This despite the different UK ethnicities. You could expand that to all of Europe and it would still be true that it means more to be European than to be some particular European ethnicity. The difference between ethnic Europeans is ethnic and the difference between Europeans and Asians and Africans is RACIAL. There is a larger genetic separation there that is more substantial than ethnicity. That is to say, the races are substantially different, above and beyond ethnic differences. I can't believe this obvious truth is being denounced by Doug in this video. He lists things that divide us, but never mentions genetics...amazing. The only genetic difference he does mention is skin color as if that is the extent of it. Why this sudden opposition to the facts? To fit in with worldly "morality"? To protect your ability to speak at certain locations? God made the races, Doug. Do you remember the tower of Babel? Do you not see the similarities with modern "multicultural" utopianism? Is it a coincidence that the influx of other peoples/cultures is often tied to the downfall of a nation? How do you think Christianity will fair? Well, I think we can see that before our eyes today. Look at voting trends, voting blocks. Animus between races is used to put them against white people and against Christians. Straight white males, for sure. All bad things to be in white nations today. I'm glad he doesn't completely discount any issues with interracial marriage, but he really almost does. He's trying to be very close to the worldly view, in my estimation, probably because he is worried about backlash. This is the best he can muster. Where the bible speaks about mixing, it's always negative and god CREATED the division! No, we should not hate any person for their race. OBVIOUSLY! Yes, they can be good Christians. However, we can't ignore the obvious and we should not work to undo what god created. We should oppose the mixing of peoples. Of course, we will have those who will ignore all of the evidence of god's opinion on such issues and claim that it's never specifically stated that people today should not mix. They remind me of another peoples that try to find every loophole in the scripture while ignoring the overall meaning. I hope most here see the folly of treating scripture this way, essentially ignoring the importance of the old testament, looking to exempt themselves from clear teachings contained within. People with their eyes open can see that the same people working against Christianity and against Christian morals are working to encourage mixing by lying. They are the enemies of truth, it's their mission to attack what is true and holy. I can respect my Christian people of all races, without wanting our peoples, as created by God, to stop existing. I would say that part of loving them is to celebrate our differences and to desire our continued existence. I see this as a wonder of God, I appreciate what God has created and this is an extension of that. I also see what happens when we work against it.
Justin Kase what you are possibly failing to understand is that scientifically there is only 1 human race not many different races. There are different ethnicities but 1 race. That’s what Wilson is trying to point out.
@@paulsemakula8600 Let me see if I can make it simple, so as to avoid further confusion. English is a different ethnicity than Irish and both are different than Scottish. However, there is a further division, a more meaningful division, denoting a larger genetic difference. This division is called race. Asians have more in common with other Asians than they do other people, Western Europeans have more in common with other Western Europeans and Subsaharan Africans have more in common with Subsaharan Africans. This is race, period. These semantic games are not useful, man. They don't bring us to a greater understanding. You can see it right here in this comment section. We are all human, of course. We are all god's children, of course. We can be brothers in Christ, of course. None of this is helped by denying this fact. What Doug is doing here is playing the same word game that the relativists play. I don't think it comes from him, I don't know if he's doing it knowingly, but he is adopting their language and helping them attack truth as a result. The truth that God made different races. They are trying to destroy this truth, just as they try to destroy the truth of gender/sex. Why would Doug play along? I have to admit, I don't know why. You could say that "scientifically there is a difference between gender and sex, gender is a social construct and biological women can become men." That's what the "science" is...if you worship what scientists say. However, we all know they are subject to political, social and economic pressures. TO argue that race exists, an obvious fact to anyone with common sense would be to effectively leave your field of study. No one would hire you because you dare speak the truth. Please tell me you see this, Paul. Race is real, it's a fact, an objective fact. What is "scientific" is no longer tied to what is true, observable or measurable. I'm sad to say that, but it's true. Especially when regarding gender and race...of course that's where it has started. Is this not obvious to you all?
Justin Kase ok lets agree to disagree on that point for now. What is most concerning to me is that you espouse the view that “races” should not mix and you claim to have a biblical warrant for that? I think there is no biblical warrant to mandate the separation/forbidding of two human men and women beings from different biological backgrounds to marry and produce children. Can you please give me where in scripture old or new this is taught or mandated by God?
Doug Wilson I agree with you BUT in 2020 shouldn't Europeans be worried that we are going to become a hated minority in the Western world? Shouldn't we be loving to all people and culture BUT stick up for our own? I am proud to be European(white) and I appreciate my ancestors and our culture, everything from Plato to the Reformation. Lately I am seeing the accomplishments of my ancestors being weaponized against me and I fear for my children who will become hated. I love everyone and want all people to flourish and the gospel can be the uniting factor around the world. But I want to remain the majority in my own nation. My ancestors have fought and died for this country and America's immigration laws were fixed from the very beginning to be a outpost for Europeans. I mean even Americans up until the recent area we're known around the world as Pan-Europeans. ALSO, If you do not care about culture and a certain texture of life, do you care about free speech or gun control? Conservative/Libertarian non-whites are anomaly and pew research clearly shows this. The orchestrated European diaspora in the West is a product of cultural marxists wearing tiny hats. That's a whole different conversation though.
Research the impacts of the 1965 immigration act if you ever have time. Also look at how every immigration policy prior gave preference to Europeans. Another big lie from Ted Kennedy.
It seems your more proud to be a European than a Christian. You made statements that seem to have more faith in your ancestors and their accomplishments then the God who created them. Let’s say your European ancestors culture and history ; your world is flipped upside down. Let’s say that Hispanics and Africans and Asians begin to flourish even more then now in literature , biblical scholarship, education, the sciences, etc..... Lets say your children who are of European dissent become a minority. What do you fear? You should fear the God who created them . It could be possible that God is testing all ethnic groups call my home power and influence over the world. In the past Europeans have been known to have created man-made ideologies in the 21st-century that has wiped out nations , turned Africans into animals and I put them into human zoos. Europeans created the word race which never existed before. I really want to know what do you fear if mass immigration in America is Gods plan. Then you have no power of your own to change his plan and your fears are misplaced. You want to remain in a nation that is not even Christ like anymore ? Why? I’d rather have The promises of God. All nations, people of all tongues, all people praise God together. Let’s let go of our own will and shape our minds around the will of God. We are so finite and our hearts can miss lead us in so many different ways. Please remember that!
@@TheSierriacoates yeah nice strawman. I love all people. I just like the texture of life the West has. I appreciate my culture and all the accomplishments my ancestors have done. I appreciate the cross 10 times more though. So, before you try and call me a rAcIsT, which is what you are essentially doing, try not to assume. You know what they say about assuming.
This entire conversation is so outside of jurisdictional boundaries is disgusting. Socialism. Crossing boundaries of mans jurisdictional authority over his own home. Its not a sicial problem or a church problem to discuss, its plainly within individual mans jurisdiction. And just because people socially can't see the benefits of somebody else's life doesn't make that person's life choices wrong. Interracial marriage isnt a social problem and if you want to call it a social problem then that makes you the problem
Im not sure of your experience but as someone who is white who dates many black women, it is tough. For me, it has been the political/social divide. So many black woman are very liberal, who see themselves as oppressed. It is hard to get along with that philosophy when i am a more conservative individual now.
As a man married to a woman from a different country and ethnicity, I agree with what Doug says about there being some increased difficulty. But I wished he would’ve also emphasized that there are unique blessings and rewards too. It is such a privilege and joy to experience the world alongside my wife and through her eyes, which enrich and bless mine.
What is an even greater joy to me is that, through our marriage, we get to display the uniting power of the gospel. God has formed one new man, broken down the barriers, and there is now no longer Barbarian, Scythian, Jew, or Greek. Due to the nature of our marriage, we get to picture that in a uniquely powerful way.
B MidE such a good point. Thank you for sharing
I think there's a time and place for this stuff. There's nothing wrong with interracial marriage but if diversity was valued to the point where everyone did it, then gradually we'd eliminate differences, and diversity just becomes a means to a non-diverse end. I don't see diversity as a virtue, it's just the nature of reality, so it's nothing to be feared either. I actually think diversity is the mechanism that reveals our weakness and thus, points to God. It's not an either or thing, interracial is a marginal instance and I think it's supposed to stay there because most of the time I'd say those differences are things people do not overcome, the successes are the exceptions.
The factor that makes it possible is your metaphysical foundations actually being the same, not different. E.g. faith, values. Personally, what I look for in a woman is one who isn't cynical as I've come to believe that that is an excellent way to gauge someone's maturity level. I also happen to get along best with similar ethnic backgrounds but I'd date any woman who was smart and not cynical...and hot.
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Yeah. Just to also give this nugget, I’m convinced that what you’re saying is also what St. Paul continued to say in 1 Corinthians 7:17-24. I believe that Paul wrote about “mixed” marriages from 1 Corinthians 7:12-24. The only mixed marriage that Paul argued could be negative is one where a spouse was converted but the other remained in sin.
Your words are very weighty with beauty here.
Don't quote the Bible out of context. There is no Judean or Helen, bond nor free, no female nor male. To clarify the context. He isn't talking about intermarriage or the same passage can be used to justify females and males marrying if you are consistent with your logic. Since that logic fails Bible scripture don't use it to justify your mixed marriage.
Jacob had to go to his kindred to get a proper wife, kind after kind, don't mix two seeds in one field, don't mix threads of two types, curse of Balaam, Ezra/ Nehemiah made the men send away their foreign wives and children, etc...
I know my post maybe jarring but I mean to clarify the word of God that you took out of context. I'm not rebuking you but interracial marriage is NOT biblical.
Mexican woman here, married to American white man. I grew up hearing from other Christian’s that marrying an American wasn’t good, because the differences between our cultures. Mexicans are known for their loud music, loud speech, family parties, etc. I’m a very different kind of Mexican. We don’t like loud parties, we are kind of reserved and we like quiet, peaceful environments. My family loves art and education, manners are very important. My husband on the other hand is very Mexican. His family is loud, they used to have lots of parties, my husband loves everything Mexican he even works with los of Latinos. He says I’m the American and he is the Mexican!! It can’t be more true! But as believers, we’ve come to the conclusion that as long as two people love Christ, your marriage will be awesome!!! There will always be bumps on the road, for every bump there will also be an increase of love and trust. There’s no Greek, no Jew!
Happy for you! I’m single and would love to have a quiet Mexican wife lol. I’m a white American guy from the Midwest and I once dated an Israeli. She was definitely the extrovert in the relationship. After meeting her family at a family party, I left with my ears ringing. It was like I’d been to a huge concert haha.
Yeah, what’s the deal with the loud parties, outside and in public? I just had Hispanic neighbors move next to me in a traditionally quiet, peaceful neighborhood. About once every month or so they’ll have a large party in their backyard with loud booming music and yelling and drunken revelry. This can go on until two or three in the morning, and often times on a weeknight. I have called the police on them at least 5 times.
It seems to be culture typified by a total lack of awareness of others, their boundaries or peaceful enjoyment of their property. I could never be married to that, for that reason alone.
Vc e um assimilado , pessoas são diferentes e não há nada de errado nisso. Ouvir música alto não te faz melhor ou pior, o CARATER É IMPORTANTE. Que comentário burro e arrogante.
There's no Greek nor Jew?? Huh?
@@keithwilson6060 lol!! Absolutely!!! I’m so embarrassed but yeah that’s so true. For example , I had to learn so many things when I came to the states when I married my husband. In Mexico you can bump on people, just pass right in front of them no big deal. Here in USA I have to say sorry and excuse me just for walking by someone! My husband has to mention that to me and he says I’m so rude! 🤣 it’s definitely a cultural issue and it has is good and bad things. I like how in Mexico you can show up any time at someone’s house, they don’t care if their house is a bit messy, they welcome you and you feel at home! You say hi to everyone, you smile at people, talk to anyone on the street or while shopping, here in USA you have to set an appointment to even dare to show up at someone’s house, I go shopping and I have to remember no one smiles or says hi, and if you do they look at you weird. Everyone is so lonely and cold! But also people are very respectful here in USA, I like how people take care of their lawns etc are clean, they take pride in their neighborhood, Mexicans don’t have that, if there was a balance, it would definitely be a perfect world 😁
I married a lady from India many years ago. We are celebrating our 17 year of married this April. This man's answer is spot on.
Stop with "I married a lady..." That's the most difficult part of all. We tend to overlook that!
American, about to propose to my Indian gf soon.
Any advice?
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we're Christians and both waiting for marriage both belive in biblical roles for the husband and wife. I met her parents many times and they were lovely.
"Be not unequally yoked together." This is not about ethnicity. It is about spiritual equality. "Can any two walk together except they agree?"
There is no such thing as spiritual equality.
@@TheConqueror009 mmm how so??
@KJ Wolfe believer and unbeliever. Bad combo in a marriage. More differences than an ethnic marriage. A believer should marry a believer.
Yes and no. Two bible-believing Christians while they may never exactly be on the same page in their spiritual Faith walk with the Lord they would still be considered evenly yoked as opposed to two Christians from vastly different denominations maybe considered less evenly yoked and then there are people from completely different religions like Protestant / Catholic are Buddhists and Protestant or even Armenian and reformed might not be considered evenly yoked enough.
@@TheConqueror009Yes and no. Two bible-believing Christians while they may never exactly be on the same page in their spiritual Faith walk with the Lord they would still be considered evenly yoked as opposed to two Christians from vastly different denominations maybe considered less evenly yoked and then there are people from completely different religions like Protestant / Catholic are Buddhists and Protestant or even Armenian and reformed might not be considered evenly yoked enough.
I appreciate the straightforward, pragmatic discussion of the distinctions we all know exist yet pretend don't. Marriages between cultures, ethnicities, pigmentations, etc. are or course fine, but pretending they don't come with additional work is nonsense.
What additional work if you've known each other for an extended amount of time?
@@ttownsupreme2183simply just discussing the issues that are different in your lives, culture, family, traditions. My grandparents are both German but from very different regions of Germany they had some cultural differences that they had to work out. It wasn't a big crisis in their marriage it was just the simple fact that they came from different traditions but both love the Lord tremendously and loved each other for over 60 years to the point where my grandfather always kissed my grandmother goodbye when he took out the garbage because he said he never knew what was going to happen and he didn't want to miss the opportunity of showing his life love.
One difficulty that people never discuss is class differences. I am from the lower-lower middle class and my wife is from upper middle class essentially. It has caused many difficulties that we have had to try to resolve.
@A P Ha, its more basic than that.
@A P 😂😂😂
@A P My wife buys things based on brand, not price, buys starbucks often, hates buying used things (Even when they are in great condition), would rather spend 3x the price of something used for something new that is built 3x worse, talks about buying very expensive furniture when we are in no position to afford (600 dollar end table). She isnt even trying to be mean or unsubmissive, but its the amount of excess she was used to. Its taken years for her mindset to change even slightly on some of these things.
Dude, you were spot on! Unfortunately, this is an even more serious problem than ethnic or racial differences. Suppose you are an American man from Florida and have a PhD in Physics, and are also a professor at a renowned university from that state. There you meet an indigenous woman, from Peru, also a university professor and with qualifications, values and world views extremely similar to yours. Man, I can guarantee you that you will work out much better, as a couple, than if you were a white prison guard in a Florida prison who was trying to date an equally white girl from the same state who had a medical degree and whose family is made up of famous doctors. In good conscience, do you think you will actually be able to marry this girl, and if you do - because love is not impossible - do you think you will be able to maintain this relationship? That's why I think class differences play a more important role here than race/ethnicity.
I have an inter-ethnic marriage with a Chinese girl. But we have the same values, that's the important thing to make it work.
pastor Doug doesn't approve, you do get that right? This guy is a white supremacist, he talks a whole lot of baloney around it to deflect from the fact but he's a white supremacist. He wouldn't bless your union in his world.
Remember Miriam & Aaron slandering Moses for his Ethiopian wife?
Absolutely
I agree with this wholeheartedly. My father is an Appalachian American of Scots-Irish Presbyterian and English Separatist ancestry while my mother was born and raised in the Philippines as a Catholic who left Catholicism for non-denominational Christianity after Pop got her into the Bible.
I wasn't raised with any of my mother's culture and, aside from half of my biology and genetics, I'm, as Merle Haggard sang, "a white boy looking for a place to do my thing." I don't hate or even dislike being half-Filipino, and I claim that heritage proudly, but it'd be dishonest for me to claim that it is without problems or issues.
For example, being half-Filipino made me stop at 5'10" and 180 pounds in a 6'8" and 280 pound family on my dad's side, which placed limitations on my ability to do the same kind of farm labor as them. On the other hand, when we went to visit my mother's family in the Philippines, I 1. didn't speak the language and couldn't understand much of anything being said and 2. towered over everyone in that part of the country as an absolute hulk.
Now, apply that aspect of being different from both and not being entirely either to just about every aspect of life, including occupational. I have been turned down for jobs because I was "Asian, but not really Asian." They'd see that a half-ethnic minority would be on the application roster and get excited that chopsticks and furaido raisu was about to walk in the door.
When a guy who looks like Markiplier but talks like Waylon Jennings walks in and thanks them for taking the time to interview in a Southern drawl, their facial expression matches how they'd look if they'd just shaken hands with someone who doesn't wash up after wiping.
I'm not Asian enough to satisfy people who want me to be Asian and I'm not white enough to just get by enjoying life as the Southern white boy I was raised to be because folks always want me to be Asian.
Being a mixed race couple can pose both blessings and difficulties to folks, but I can also say from experience that there can be many difficulties for offspring of mixed race couples, and the only blessing I've found in it is my Filipino half slowing down the heart condition inherited from my American half.
I'm not saying that being a mixed-race offspring is a bad thing or even that I dislike being half-Filipino, but it sure has made life a lot more confusing. It's been an interesting ride with many struggles and issues, but one I've thus far relatively enjoyed.
As a never married man I wouldn’t care about ethnicity at all it’s hard enough for decent people to meet, I would only care if she’s a Christian. I’m sure superficial things like this keep a lot of good people apart.
I don't even talk to non-Christians
@@kennethkotelo893 That would make you exceedingly un-Christlike, which makes me doubt that you are a real Christian in the first place.
He answered this EXACTLY how I thought he would and how I would answer it myself.
Human is a species not a race.
If both are Christians; who love and serve God, with God and His Holy Scriptures as their first authority, staying in the Scriptures and being prayerful people, most of the cultural or ethnic issues within the marriage can be and will be resolved. Yet, the families of these couples, the Church congregation, and the friends and work environment might present unnecessary challenges, but God can give victory dealing with any naysayer.
The one thing that seemed conspicuously missing from this analysis was how important having the same religious beliefs is. It could be that it goes without saying, but in my experience among friends and family, two white people with very different Faith traditions is often a disaster.
I think he’s assuming the people watching are Christian.
Very helpful.
My wife was born in the Philippines but was raised in LA from the time she was 2 years old. I grew up in Northern California so we are as culturally similar as a SF kid and an LA girl can be (which is different in case you're not aware). However dealing with her family, who all grew up overseas, has many times been challenging for me. They are nice people but there are definitely practical difficulties and misunderstandings due to differing values and culture. I think it is good advice to understand that and go into it with your eyes open. I know from experience. I am not divorcing over it or anything, we are very happy and have been married for 20 years, but I agree that it would be silly to not realize that there will be some challenges.
That can happen in any family. It happens between families of same ethnicities. I think everyone no matter who they marry, needs to understand family boundaries. Sometimes families want to control newlyweds, specially in those cultures, but if the woman loves the lord, she will submit to her husband and give priority to him, he is her family now.
Carla Linton. There is nothing wrong with interracial Marriage.
I don't think that's what doug was saying, he was pointing out that you should be aware that there might be some challenges along the way if you marry somebody from a very different culture or ethnic as your own. This doesn't mean the marriage will be a failure that just means there will be some challenges to overcome. Both my grandparents came from Germany but from very vastly different regions of Germany and while they had a marriage that lasted over 60 years and was full of love they also had cultural differences to address and adjust to.
I am mixed race. The only problems to begin with was that My dad, due to his culture, was very politically incorrect and Mum had to warn him otherwise he might have lost his job.
Doug, thank you for your voice of reason.
Skin color really doesn't matter. Ethnicity is significant, but skin color is a non-factor.
I think he made a good point as far as make sure you know what you're getting yourself into as far as the different cultures between the 2 races.
This video doesn't quite hit the ball out of the park.
A brief aside - It's not entirely true that all differences between races are purely ethnic (ie, cultural). Some are biological, and may or may not affect a marriage positively or negatively. But against the backdrop of all the larger differences in any given a couple (male vs female; this culture vs that culture; this household vs that houshold; this tradition vs that tradition), any real differences on the biological level amount to background noise and are not easily detected. But again, this kind of nuance can't be properly sussed out in 5 minutes. Moving on...
Our kids are bi-racial, and I deliberately made it a point to raise them so that if anyone had a problem with our race, the problem was theirs, not ours. My wife and I didn't "equip them to be black in a black America" (@2:40 - Wilson and I disagree on that point). Instead, we raised them to be God-fearing people, and trained them to ignore people who would get a knot in their knickers over our race. Or our religion. Or our locale. Or any other immutable trait that God assigned us.
Thankfully, when it comes to their race, our kids received almost no flack (or attention, for that matter). It's a sign that times have changed since I was a kid. And truth be told, it also has to do with where they were raised - namely, in a rural mostly white, conservative community that is largely indifferent to race. I've lived in other locations in the USA that weren't nearly as indifferent to race, and I preferred to not raise my kids in that environment. Some subcultures in the USA feel quite free to impose demands on how xyz people ought to live just because of their xyz skin color. I speak from personal experience, of course. [To put a fine point on it, in the USA, black people are far more free to impose behavioral norms on other people who are black. This is not opinion - there are actually Pew research data to back this up, but you have to read between the lines. This is the essence of racism, and it would be good if the Church would address it more pointedly.] So if we did live in a more urban environment, our kids' race might have been more of an issue, and would have required more training in that regard.
(And I'm willing to bet that another reason why their race was largely a non-issue for them is also because of the fact that they happen to be quite beautiful. I say that without a shred of bias, of course ;) )
Our kids are now adults, and they don't care one whit about race. Which is as it should be.
They've traveled internationally and visited numerous various cultures across multiple continents. They treat race like they treat the fur of their puppies: nice, but irrelevant when it comes to personality and character.
Which is as it should be.
And yes, out of the 40+ countries and 4 continents I've been to, I can say from personal experience that the USA is one of the least racist countries I've ever been in. By far.
I agree. If a child has a black parent and white parent, the child is bi-racial. True, some may "see" him or her as black but that doesnt make the child black. Just as it wouldnt make them white if they were perceived that way. The truth is what only matters and is what we should build upon. A bi-racial identity. Im surprised doug would see it the other way. Im glad in how you chose to raise your children.
Great - let’s hope they are fighting to stop the South having its backbone ripped out and all public honoring of anything even vaguely associated with the Confederacy scrubbed, in one of the most shocking and horrifying campaigns I have ever been unlucky enough to witness in my country.
@@ZephaniahL Unfortunately, your comments are too vague for me to know what you're getting at.
FWIW, neither I nor my kids "fight" for anything that's not in their field of view. They already have enough to keep them occupied.
@@timffoster Wow, if that is too vague you must really be clobbered over the head with a subject. I think I was pretty clear in alluding to the scrubbing of street, neighborhood, monument, holiday and now military base names in any way linked to the Confederacy. Surely you do not drny this is happening. And my point is that thoughtful Americans of any background should be opposing this massive exercise in Newspeak; the media instead portrays it as a thoroughly racialized issue, as though only whites would oppose this, and those who do so because they are either brainless or wicked. A good blow for color-blindness could be struck if children are not encouraged to learn different versions of American history based upon their ‘race,’ and if, as you say, your children have experience of a conservative rural area, my hope is that they can overcome this trend. The nuance and grnuine disagreements involved in antebellum politics are a good test case, as they are being so grotesquely distorted in even congressional circles. And of course we now have a Democratic party leader in Jeffries who pals around with his black supremacist uncle, Leonard.
@@timffoster Not for me, they weren't.
Doug Wilson is a legend.
There is the most complication when you put a man and woman together who think from completely different places and tell them "You'll be perfect together." Talk about looking for problems! This is ridiculous. If that is your argument, no one should ever marry. (Matt. 6:34 - quit looking g=for trouble, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself....)
Wilson. The great subtler. Elevates a topic like "ethnicity" to the top of the importance spectrum, which is a composite and in close proximity to race in realistic terms (numerically, statistically), and pushes a controversial, white supremacist opinion with no one noticing. His complete inability to emphasize the good aspects of inter-ethnic and/or inter-racial marriages emphasizing my point. Rather than a balanced, wholesome opinion, Wilson has subtly skewed the perspective of the viewer by not presenting both sides of a very balanced mathematical equation. My case nearly rested. Listen to this man heartily, thoroughly, diligently, analytically, and avoid his counsel my good CZcamsrs. Love you all.
1. He didn't elevate it to the "top of the importance spectrum". He was asked a question about that specific topic and so he spoke on it. I'm sure if he was asked about couples with different views on finances, he would have something to say on that and nobody would think he is implying that personal finances are issue #1 for couples. Your intentionally deceiving here.
2. What exactly are the benefits of interracial marriage in contrast to a interracial marriage ceteris paribus? Every study out there speaks to the disadvantages of mixed race kids, for example. Besides a wider array of dishes at the dinner table, I'm not sure what these unambiguous benefits are?
Anytime someone ventures outside of their in group, it's going to bring with it a lot of problems. Those problems might be offset by benefits that accrue on an individual level, but the disadvantages are a lot larger in a generalizable context.
@Wolfschanzeful sounds like the jurisdiction of a man as head of his own household to manage not for a church or nation to even speak on. Ur assuming you have a say in a jurisdiction that doesnt belong to you or the church. Not for you to socially evaluate the benefits of somebody else's individual marriage and householder ir the vision for their home or if there's some a larger social benefit for other people. That's ridiculous. I'm white and surly a very different culture than even the people who grew up in my same Community. Whatever benefits that I have and blessings that I have to give to my marriage and family are not any of your concern or of any social concerns. The point being who cares if you dont understand. There is no social Logic for you to get . That's somehow by you understanding intern that somehow makes it okay for other people to have interracial marriages because somehow you see the benefit to it. Very self centered to think for something to be okay that somehow you or others have to socially understand the benefits of it. Everyone thinks that everything is a social problem... that everybody else gets to have a say ...in and how everybody else does things and it's truly crossing jurisdictional boundaries... this crazy psychotic socialism... that everybody thinks that they get to have a say in jurisdictions that belong to individual men. If you don't see the benefit of somebody else's life but they're wrong. Even those who choose to be pilgrims and separatists choose to live their own lives and yet there's a huge group of people who feels they don't see the social benefit of it so that group of pilgrims must be wrong. Socialist training at its finest, turn another man's life into a social problem for yourself so that you can tell other people what to do.
What an utterly vacuous take. So, he's saying, two people from different backgrounds might have cultural differences to consider. Wow, such deep wisdom.
😂right
When I was in my 11th grade Bible class, my Bible teacher told the class that white parents would be more upset if their daughter married a black Christian African- American man vs. a white non-Christian man. This is so sad. No verses in the Bible forbid interracial marriage. Having said that, Wikipedia contains a table with an interesting statistic that shows that black men prefer white women 28 times more than white men prefer white women. Reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States
To derive the 28X, simply divide column 3, row 3 (8.6) by row 1, column 6 (0.3). Therefore 8.6/0.3 = 28.
Uncomfortable subject but I suppose I agree. I had a friend, American born, mostly raised in the Hispanic culture. She always preferred the aesthetic of white men. She married one. Later she came to realize that for some reason, even though she is American and he is American there were several distinct differences between how they conducted themselves and viewed the world. She admitted she should've considered these things before getting married. But Idk because maybe he's just a jerk. Or she's the jerk. 😂
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
I'm mixed race (black white and olive) my husband a white man when we met 2003.
God told me he is a black man but didn't know it, and the evidence was by looking at he's father who looked quite dark olive. Well, years later, my husband turned 40, and he found out through his father that he was indeed a black man. His parents never told him about his father's race, how sad. He grew up thinking he was white and he was a sinner, but as he was being saved, he was pulled more into his true identity as a black man it brought him closer to God.
God said we have been scattered around the world therefore we are mixed race. We have issues in our marriage because we are sinners until being saved. We all have the same issues problems because of our generational curses we must work on until our bloodline is pure thats what we are working on as Gods people ❤️ 🙏 💙
The battle is real and the enemy is a liar 💯
The comments here should be interesting
The medical community acknowledges that race consists of more than skin color, as they take your race into account when determining your risk level for certain diseases. The fact is that race is a biological reality, playing a big part in how we think as well the kinds of societies we form. Pretending like the physical differences among races do not extend to differences in the brain is absurd on the face of it, and denying those differences is part of what leads to so much misunderstanding whites have regarding how to deal with other races, particularly blacks. Interracial marriage can work, of course, but treating such couples as if their racial differences will play no role in the dynamic of their relationship is foolish and reckless.
they ask for your ethnic group. Ethos is NOT race.
They also like to know your blood type, your height and weight, your level of physical activity, and your family history of certain diseases. Yet will you avoid marrying someone of a different blood type because it's harder to understand them?
The challenges involving "race" and understanding the brain is not going to be something explained away by nothing but physical attributes. Heck, your brain is going to have more in common with a white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever 'race' or ethnicity of the same sex than it will with the brain of a woman of your own ethnicity - even your own first cousin, if you decided to go that route.
(Not just the brain, either. Men and women differ in every part of their bodies. Every single organ is a different size and is optimized in different ways. Archaeologists can unearth a single bone and tell whether the skeleton was male or female.)
If we aren't going to caution against opposite-sex marriage because of the physical differences alone, we shouldn't caution against interracial marriage because of the physical differences alone. If we were, then a white man would be better off "marrying" a black man than choosing a white woman.
I think that there is at least as much danger in overrating the "racial" physical differences as there is in underrating the challenges of breaking language and culture barriers.
I readily affirm that there are biological, physical and physiological differences between races, which is why I think it's not a useful argument to insist that we are all one race. I get the sentiment, but at the end of the day, its not a useful position to take.
The challenge is that you usually can't reverse-engineer it. Within each "race" exists a wide gamut of features. Even if said features coalesce around a statistical norm (making a bell curve), there's no way to know in advance if a particular person's place on that bell curve is due to race, ethnicity nature or nurture. So no matter how you slice it, you have to treat each person and an individual, not a product of their race/ethnicity/culture/family.
That's the problem with CRT: it replaces the individual identity with group identity.
@@louis-vd3urI think you mean ethnos, not ethos.
Glad the medical community has the final say. We’ve definitely learned they’re never wrong in the past 5 years
Do you agree on what type of church to raise your children in, is an important consideration
For a man who usually gets it right, with respect to black and white marriage, I have to say that Doug gets it very wrong on this one. He gets it wrong because of something that he usually warns against: uncritical acceptance of secular categories. That the child of a white man married to a black woman will be considered to be black by society really shouldn't come into the calculus of the man's consideration of whether to marry a black woman (all other things being equal of course, including the fact that both man and woman are committed followers of Christ). Doug should know as well as anyone that considering the child of a white man and a black woman as black is an ungodly relic of early America, when blacks were seen as less than human--the one drop rule. When did the progeny of that Satanic anthropology become something Christians ought to submit to? (Accepted as it might be by society at large--including, and erroneously, by blacks) For someone who regularly calls many back to scripture, to have their worldviews shaped thereby, it is rather curious that he would concede to an incorrect and unbiblical worldview here. Ironically, and sadly so, he is unwittingly part of the problem that the hypothetical white father will have, by seemingly affirming, at least in part, the skewed view of race, unmoored to reality, that is prevalent in America.
Go read "southern slavery how it was" if you really want to vomit
Benji, Doug didn't validate the idea, he said "will be considered to be black."
Benji - I largely agree. Furthermore, Not everyone in America will treat bi racial kids as "black". Nor should they, because 'black' isnt just skin color.
So what are you trying to say?Do you believe there is a problem with interracial marriage
Exactly!!
A reasonable answer.
THAT'S RACIST
Very true, you can ask any interracial family and see these obstacles.
Ironically His view is actually more "woke" than so called "Tolerant" peiple. He is aware of differences in langauge culture beliefs etc. You are God sent Doug Wilskb
Luke 14:26: "“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple."
Jesus was not saying to hate everyone and escalate evil. He was saying that you have to understand how complex and common hate is to follow his love.
36 Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.” 37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
I'm not exactly sure if this has an ethnic meaning and I don't think it was a racist quote. But it is easy to believe that he was referring to the idea that people are different. Some are good and some are bad. Regardless of what we believe about racism. At the end of harvest, it is the angels (spirits) who reap the best harvest (people). I can personally relate this to interracial marriage in defense of my own views, as that is something I would think whether useful or harmful to other people's interpretation. Would be nice to ask Jesus this question although I'm not sure I would get a straight answer because there might not be one.
Additionally, Jesus and the apostles talk mostly in parables trying to disguise anything that would be interpreted as disrespectful as it would be less practical to stir up hatred. Although, I've hated plenty and will probably continue to if the world keeps getting worse I do not believe this approach is for everyone.
However, according to a continued search using AI the bible does provide guidance on various aspects of relationships and marriage.
Deuteronomy 7:2-5: In this passage, God instructs the Israelites not to intermarry with the pagan nations around them. The concern although possibly allowing for ethnic consideration is referenced more as a spiritual fidelity problem. God wanted His people to remain faithful to Him and not be led astray by foreign gods.
Joshua 23:11-13: Joshua warns the Israelites against associating with the remaining nations in the land. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity. Marrying someone from another nation could lead to idolatry and compromise their faith.
Judges 3:5-8: The Israelites did not heed God’s warning and intermarried with the Canaanites. As a result, they turned away from the Lord and served false gods. The issue here is mainly spiritual compromise, but possibly racial differences.
Genesis 24:1-4: Abraham instructs his servant not to find a wife for his son Isaac among the Canaanite girls. The concern is about faithfulness to God’s covenant and maybe leaves enough room to consider ethnicity.
Ezra 9:12: Ezra emphasizes that the Israelites should not give their daughters in marriage to foreign men. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity and maybe ethnicity.
Galatians 3:28 (New Testament): Paul declares that in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female. This verse emphasizes unity in Christ, transcending racial and social distinctions through Christ's following.
2 Corinthians 6:14 (New Testament): Paul advises believers not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. While this verse doesn’t specifically mention interracial marriage, it highlights the importance of reproductive norms in faith relationships.
In summary, the Bible does not support or prohibit interracial marriage based on race alone although it does emphasize foreign and religious differences in choosing for a good marriage. Primarily, it emphasizes faithfulness to God and the importance of shared spiritual values in relationships. Love, respect, and commitment are essential, regardless of ethnicity. However, the possibility that ethnicity is relevant in marriage is still widely believed in my personal opinion even if less and less people are going to be capable of admitting it in the future.Luke 14:26: "“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple."
Jesus was not saying to hate everyone and escalate evil. He was saying that you have to understand how complex and common hate is to follow his love.
36 Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.” 37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
I'm not exactly sure if this has an ethnic meaning and I don't think it was a racist quote. But it is easy to believe that he was referring to the idea that people are different. Some are good and some are bad. Regardless of what we believe about racism. At the end of harvest, it is the angels (spirits) who reap the best harvest (people). I can personally relate this to interracial marriage in defense of my own views, as that is something I would think whether useful or harmful to other people's interpretation. Would be nice to ask Jesus this question although I'm not sure I would get a straight answer because there might not be one.
Additionally, Jesus and the apostles talk mostly in parables trying to disguise anything that would be interpreted as disrespectful as it would be less practical to stir up hatred. Although, I've hated plenty and will probably continue to if the world keeps getting worse I do not believe this approach is for everyone.
However, according to a continued search using AI the bible does provide guidance on various aspects of relationships and marriage.
Deuteronomy 7:2-5: In this passage, God instructs the Israelites not to intermarry with the pagan nations around them. The concern although possibly allowing for ethnic consideration is referenced more as a spiritual fidelity problem. God wanted His people to remain faithful to Him and not be led astray by foreign gods.
Joshua 23:11-13: Joshua warns the Israelites against associating with the remaining nations in the land. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity. Marrying someone from another nation could lead to idolatry and compromise their faith.
Judges 3:5-8: The Israelites did not heed God’s warning and intermarried with the Canaanites. As a result, they turned away from the Lord and served false gods. The issue here is mainly spiritual compromise, but possibly racial differences.
Genesis 24:1-4: Abraham instructs his servant not to find a wife for his son Isaac among the Canaanite girls. The concern is about faithfulness to God’s covenant and maybe leaves enough room to consider ethnicity.
Ezra 9:12: Ezra emphasizes that the Israelites should not give their daughters in marriage to foreign men. Again, the focus is on spiritual fidelity and maybe ethnicity.
Galatians 3:28 (New Testament): Paul declares that in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female. This verse emphasizes unity in Christ, transcending racial and social distinctions through Christ's following.
2 Corinthians 6:14 (New Testament): Paul advises believers not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. While this verse doesn’t specifically mention interracial marriage, it highlights the importance of reproductive norms in faith relationships.
In summary, the Bible does not support or prohibit interracial marriage based on race alone although it does emphasize foreign and religious differences in choosing for a good marriage. Primarily, it emphasizes faithfulness to God and the importance of shared spiritual values in relationships. Love, respect, and commitment are essential, regardless of ethnicity. However, the possibility that ethnicity is relevant in marriage is still widely believed in my personal opinion even if less and less people are going to be capable of admitting it in the future.
One race ! The human race !
We cannot deal with that. We need an identity to which we can belong and value. Globalist ideology simply gives us the participation trophy of identity.
God made all believers into one body and that is an identity that we can belong to and value.
There is only a color spectrum. There is no red, green, blue. Nonsense and confusion.
There are races and each are unique based on so many biological attributes. In genetic clustering of DNA samples people group together in races then further break down to ethnicities.
God made all men of one blood. Just like all crayons are made of one color. That doesn't mean each crayon is the same color just all red crayons are made of one color and all blue crayons are made of one color. God determined there appointed times and bounds. It's secular tower of Babylon thinking that says we should mix those.
Yes of course foreigners can sojourn in lands. But if a foreign man goes to Japan and takes a woman, land, government position he is trying to steal his brothers allotment. Go home and take a wife from your kindred as Jacob did.
race (n.2)
[people of common descent] 1560s, "people descended from a common ancestor, class of persons allied by common ancestry," from French race, earlier razza "race, breed, lineage, family"
What about NASCAR??!!
Humanity is a species and "races" are sub-species
If he means that these are potential problems to be considered before marriage, I think its wise. However, Christ calls all nations to come together in a reversal of the division that occurred at Babel. I would expect this to happen in Christian churches as well as individual homes. However, a healthy church in Moscow, ID would no doubt be less diverse than one in a major city with a more culturally diverse population. Thanks for the video!
Joe Hamm Such a great response ♥️
Christ does not call all nations to come together in a reversal of Babel. He states that the only place conflict truly ends betweeen ethnos is in the church through Him. These are entirely different things. Don't hamfist globalism into Christianity by rewriting scripture.
@@Benyamean Ok what happened at Pentecost with tongues.
@@marytitus2874 >the only place conflict between ethnos ends is within the church
@@Benyamean Oh ok I think I misunderstood. As long as you're not a creep who wants to use the bible and government to forcefully segregate me.
As a catholic marriage is a sacrament, so if you and the intended spouse are not of the same religion I would consider the marriage to be very problematic, to use the word. As a catholic I have communion with many amazing ethnic groups and am multiethnic myself due to that.
Don’t worry, you can use the word “problematic” and likely not be killed for it.
Nonsense! You wrote a commentary on Revelation, you know that races exist.
Holy Non Sequitur, Batman!
There is also a distinct possibility that today’s rebellious generation may seek out an inter-racial relationship to push this rebellion, especially in this BLM environment, to prove that one is not “racist.” This could be one of the worst reasons to enter into an interracial relationship.
You have a lot of fear about this, dont you?
@@urzmontst.george6314
Doesn’t any parent have reason to fear that rebellion motivating unwise behavior might lead to lasting deleterious consequences for their child?
If there's one race then why does an Asian couple have asian children and not some white, black and Asian and the same for white and black couples. It seems that consistency tells otherwise
Viewer , please understand that Doug Wilson is stemming from a Christian Nationalists point of view. Read “A case for Christian Nationalism” and you’ll understand more where he’s coming from.
Clearly Doug doesn't understand or pretends to not understand that race is far more than skin color. I ran a discussion on the topic here (Part of a series).
czcams.com/video/prMria6LefY/video.html
Some of what he said is true here, but he is scared to embrace the entire truth because of the backlash he and his ministry would receive.
Faithful Nation - whether racial categories are legitimate or race is more than just skin color is not relevant to this advice though.
Doug gives good advice regardless of what you’re pointing out.
If you’re a creationist, you do believe that we all have the same parents, so Inter-marriage is not strictly prohibited but rather should just be considered carefully as Doug said.
@@ConciseCabbage I agree, as I stated in my original comment. But my criticism is based on Doug's unwillingness to profess obvious truth. Race is more than skin color and more than culture. Thus it is a highly important factor when considering marriage. I think Doug downplays its importance, yet at the same time I acknowledge that many Kinists overplay its importance. I discussed the topic here:
czcams.com/video/796nOx9RoN4/video.html
@@ConciseCabbage Did god give that impression in the OT? Did god create the separate nations and their borders? What did God say about the descendants of mixed people entering his kingdom in the OT? IF god was an ethnonationalist in the OT, if it safe to assume that he is exactly the opposite now?
@@justinkase1360 All through the Old Testament, we see instances of gentiles being brought into the covenant. Just to mention one, think of Jesus' example of Namaan in Luke 4:27. Gentiles were being brought in more and more until the incarnation, at which time Paul explains that there's a massive ingathering of gentiles (which is the fulfillment of OT prophesy).
Israel was elect for a purpose. The purpose was to be a light to the nations and the source of salvation. So, yes, that meant that they had to be absolutely pure with no trace of idolatry in them. And it's also why when they forgot their purpose, God judged them and showed favor to gentile nations instead, for example.
God is not a respecter of persons. What did John the Baptist say? God can raise up believers from rocks! If you think that God truly cares about your ethnicity, or if you think that your ethnicity will save you, then you misunderstand the purpose of election in the first place.
@@ConciseCabbage Excuse me because I'm actually new to Christianity, but I don't know all of the cases you reference. I don't doubt that some gentiles were brought into the fold and especially with the coming of Christ, as is prophesied in the OT as you note. I think Israel serves mostly as a cautionary tale and that their story is not exactly one of pureness. At least not in the spiritualness. After all, there is a reason for the new covenant. God knew exactly the path they would take and they commit the ultimate sin, which is the hating and killing of Christ. I think we see this in their nature, even today. In the end they will be won over, of course, but that will not prevent them from attempting to bring about their "messiah", which I think is also prophesied. I know it's not the typical interpretation.
God does not care about our ethnicity as it relates to salvation, all can be brothers and sisters in Christ. I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought otherwise. However, does God involve himself in the matters of nations? Undoubtedly. I do not tie any of this directly to salvation/election, as in that it necessarily prevents salvation. Although this is referenced in part of the OT, to the tenth generation (presumably beyond). I do think it is a sin.
🤢 all the racist comments of course coming out. Yuck. Great video.
Nothing he said is racist but........ We know he has racist views.... Read his books
People are wwweeeiirrddd
“We’re not the real racists! See how not-racist we are? Race isn’t even a thing.” - Doug Wilson
Race is a genetic term. It relates to the concept of ethnicity and is not defined in any cosmetic term. Race has a use in biology because it identifies what diseases or conditions you will be prone to. That is all that it means.
We have chosen to turn race into a grouping of cosmetically similar people even though they have nothing in common. It is my belief that, if nobody intervened, we would eventually become a single race again.
Meaning???
No, race is real and race matters. While it technically isn't a sin that doesn't mean that it's inherently good or beneficial. Generally, I would advise against it since it can be very difficult compared to marriage without racial or ethnic issues. You're effectively just artificially increasing the difficulty of your marriage for no reason.
No, you are effectively just artificially making this a big problem. It shouldn't be of higher difficulty then any personality, deep cultural or social status differences unless one of the involved is racist
I know this is old, but it's just one of the many problems that come into marriage in general. Same goes with choosing to marry someone with a medical problem. You're making it harder by marrying someone not in peak physical form. But, if there are very few spiritually mature Christians around you, and the only one in your age range who is the opposite sex is a different race, then what are you going to do? Burn with passion alone? Pick someone who is immature but the same race? Whoever you marry, it ought to be one who is spiritually mature first and foremost. Physical qualities and family/cultural backgrounds come next
@@umbrellathegreatdetective5423 The odds of you not being able to find someone of the same race to marry is astronomically small unless you're mixed or something. If you happen to fall in love with someone of a different race that's fine, there's nothing immoral about it. I agree that personality matters way more than race, but I'm just saying that when you're looking for a potential partner you should at least try to prioritize someone of the same race as to not overcomplicate the marriage.
@@umbrellathegreatdetective5423 What are you talking about?
Do you believe interracial marriage is a negative thing?
"There's only one race the human race."
There's only one dog breed, the dog dog breed."
diglossia Based.
In fact all dogs are descended from the wolf.
@@karcharias811 Therefore there aren't any dog breeds but only dogs? And behavioural difference between Pomeranians and Rottweilers are cultural?
Although I agree with the sentiment, let's not mistake man-made breeds for god-made human races/nations or draw a line between.
@@justinkase1360 Races are man made too. Who else did the choosing? We domesticated and sorted ourselves (with the guiding hand of Providence).
Doug is a great thinker.
Nothing in this video is rocket science. I would imagine that all of these differences are obviously things that one must think through before getting married.
Brother, I'm curious. At the beginning you said "if I was counseling someone". Where does the authority to counsel someone come from?
From them asking for counsel. It happens.
@@timffoster I'd also add "age" onto that. Obviously all people older than you aren't necessarily smarter than you, but almost every culture in the world, including Biblical cultures, consider those who are older than them wiser than them, and thus go to them for counsel.
Carla Linton. I'm in love with My High School Sweetie Daniel Jordan and he is white.
Shouldn't what we call human "races" be called "breeds"?
I dunno. My wife married a mutt.
@@TheCruiseDog lol
Subspecies or more accurate would be individual species but political correctness will not allow truth. If humans were any other animal they would be broken into different species.
@@goldknox9629 thanks for your answer, but it seems to me that the different human "races" cannot be considered different species because we can mate across them. Humanity is one species.
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The race-denial here is just downright silly. Maybe from 90%+ lily white Moscow, Idaho, you don't really see the differences on a day-to-day basis. But try living in South-Side Chicago for a year and then report back to me. You'll feel safer and more at home anywhere in Romania, even in the most remote village, than you will there. The simple fact of the matter is that a Romanian and a white American share far more in common culturally than a white American shares with a black American. There's a reason for that, and that's because race is more than just skin deep.
Slavwave I have more on common with a black baptist than a Romanian orthodox because I am baptist. I came from the ghetto and had black folks in the ghetto hate me- they weren't Christians though. Christ changes everything and everyone if he wills it. Blacks who live in lily white Idaho because they are seeking a better life thrive here and they are my brethren.
Did you watch the video? He's saying exactly what you just said. He's only saying that race isn't a biblical construct.
@@AJHurley uhh no, he clearly said that American blacks and American whites have more in common than Americans and Eastern Europeans. As an American white who was born and raised in an inner city, and has traveled extensively across all parts of Europe, I couldn't disagree more.
@@objectivistathlete Sure. But the main question your point raises is one of race, while the rest of your argument is one of culture. Different "colors" of people that assimilate to European culture don't have the same issues in which you're speaking. In other words, there is nothing intrinsic in the DNA of non-europeans that cause them to behave differently. Culture is a bi-product of worldview and worldview is a function of discipleship.
@@NikkiSchumacherOfficial "more in common with" isn't really a helpful way to think of things. Your faith is more important than your race, and we'll be going to heaven with members of every nation and without related infidels, but that isn't an argument in favor of the permissibility of miscegenation.
We love because first He loved us. I'm not with pastor on this one, given Matthew 1. Show me the numbers when Christianity is a factor.
I didn't understand your meaning. Help me out? Thanks.
Huh??
@@jamesgasaway7784 I mean, show me the numbers - divorce rates of "mixed" couples, etc. Then I'll believe there is a factor to consider.
"Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts. " Man made freedoms spawn yet another seer. Beware.
the bible says that the white woman was made for the black man ever much as the white man there is no distinction1 corinthians 11:9
1 cor 7:39 she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord
Of course! Doug is agreeing with that, just simply adding that there ARE difficulties there that people like to pretend don't exist.
I saw another comment that mentioned class differences (i.e. he was low income and she was high income as kids) and it caused many issues. This is real and it's a lie to tell ourselves it might not cause a problem. Of course we are all equal heirs in Christ and any marriage like this can work out phenomenally and many have.
There is only a color spectrum. There is no red, green, blue. Nonsense and confusion.
There are races and each are unique based on so many biological attributes. In genetic clustering of DNA samples people group together in races then further break down to ethnicities.
God made all men of one blood. Just like all crayons are made of one color. That doesn't mean each crayon is the same color just all red crayons are made of one color and all blue crayons are made of one color. God determined there appointed times and bounds. It's secular tower of Babylon thinking that says we should mix those.
Yes of course foreigners can sojourn in lands. But if a foreign man goes to Japan and takes a woman, land, government position he is trying to steal his brothers allotment. Go home and take a wife from your kindred as Jacob did.
Your weird
It's sad to see a man I really respect suggest that race is really just ethnicity and use the term "problematic" to boot. I'm 30 seconds in and I already know where he is likely going, it saddens me. Let us not lie to people or ourselves, Doug. Can we please be honest? There may be ethnic differences among any given race, but RACE is a larger division that ethnicity. I think it's a simple fact to recognize that people from the UK (genetically) have more in common than they do with people from Africa. This despite the different UK ethnicities. You could expand that to all of Europe and it would still be true that it means more to be European than to be some particular European ethnicity. The difference between ethnic Europeans is ethnic and the difference between Europeans and Asians and Africans is RACIAL. There is a larger genetic separation there that is more substantial than ethnicity. That is to say, the races are substantially different, above and beyond ethnic differences. I can't believe this obvious truth is being denounced by Doug in this video. He lists things that divide us, but never mentions genetics...amazing. The only genetic difference he does mention is skin color as if that is the extent of it. Why this sudden opposition to the facts? To fit in with worldly "morality"? To protect your ability to speak at certain locations? God made the races, Doug. Do you remember the tower of Babel? Do you not see the similarities with modern "multicultural" utopianism? Is it a coincidence that the influx of other peoples/cultures is often tied to the downfall of a nation? How do you think Christianity will fair? Well, I think we can see that before our eyes today. Look at voting trends, voting blocks. Animus between races is used to put them against white people and against Christians. Straight white males, for sure. All bad things to be in white nations today.
I'm glad he doesn't completely discount any issues with interracial marriage, but he really almost does. He's trying to be very close to the worldly view, in my estimation, probably because he is worried about backlash. This is the best he can muster. Where the bible speaks about mixing, it's always negative and god CREATED the division! No, we should not hate any person for their race. OBVIOUSLY! Yes, they can be good Christians. However, we can't ignore the obvious and we should not work to undo what god created. We should oppose the mixing of peoples. Of course, we will have those who will ignore all of the evidence of god's opinion on such issues and claim that it's never specifically stated that people today should not mix. They remind me of another peoples that try to find every loophole in the scripture while ignoring the overall meaning. I hope most here see the folly of treating scripture this way, essentially ignoring the importance of the old testament, looking to exempt themselves from clear teachings contained within. People with their eyes open can see that the same people working against Christianity and against Christian morals are working to encourage mixing by lying. They are the enemies of truth, it's their mission to attack what is true and holy. I can respect my Christian people of all races, without wanting our peoples, as created by God, to stop existing. I would say that part of loving them is to celebrate our differences and to desire our continued existence. I see this as a wonder of God, I appreciate what God has created and this is an extension of that. I also see what happens when we work against it.
Justin Kase what you are possibly failing to understand is that scientifically there is only 1 human race not many different races. There are different ethnicities but 1 race. That’s what Wilson is trying to point out.
@@paulsemakula8600 Let me see if I can make it simple, so as to avoid further confusion. English is a different ethnicity than Irish and both are different than Scottish. However, there is a further division, a more meaningful division, denoting a larger genetic difference. This division is called race. Asians have more in common with other Asians than they do other people, Western Europeans have more in common with other Western Europeans and Subsaharan Africans have more in common with Subsaharan Africans. This is race, period. These semantic games are not useful, man. They don't bring us to a greater understanding. You can see it right here in this comment section. We are all human, of course. We are all god's children, of course. We can be brothers in Christ, of course. None of this is helped by denying this fact. What Doug is doing here is playing the same word game that the relativists play. I don't think it comes from him, I don't know if he's doing it knowingly, but he is adopting their language and helping them attack truth as a result. The truth that God made different races. They are trying to destroy this truth, just as they try to destroy the truth of gender/sex. Why would Doug play along? I have to admit, I don't know why. You could say that "scientifically there is a difference between gender and sex, gender is a social construct and biological women can become men." That's what the "science" is...if you worship what scientists say. However, we all know they are subject to political, social and economic pressures. TO argue that race exists, an obvious fact to anyone with common sense would be to effectively leave your field of study. No one would hire you because you dare speak the truth. Please tell me you see this, Paul. Race is real, it's a fact, an objective fact. What is "scientific" is no longer tied to what is true, observable or measurable. I'm sad to say that, but it's true. Especially when regarding gender and race...of course that's where it has started. Is this not obvious to you all?
Justin Kase You get it.
@@paulsemakula8600 Races of bees:
bees4life.org/learn/sustainable-beekeeping/guide-honey-bee-races
Wait, there's only one race, the BEE race!
Justin Kase ok lets agree to disagree on that point for now. What is most concerning to me is that you espouse the view that “races” should not mix and you claim to have a biblical warrant for that? I think there is no biblical warrant to mandate the separation/forbidding of two human men and women beings from different biological backgrounds to marry and produce children. Can you please give me where in scripture old or new this is taught or mandated by God?
Doug Wilson I agree with you BUT in 2020 shouldn't Europeans be worried that we are going to become a hated minority in the Western world? Shouldn't we be loving to all people and culture BUT stick up for our own? I am proud to be European(white) and I appreciate my ancestors and our culture, everything from Plato to the Reformation. Lately I am seeing the accomplishments of my ancestors being weaponized against me and I fear for my children who will become hated. I love everyone and want all people to flourish and the gospel can be the uniting factor around the world. But I want to remain the majority in my own nation. My ancestors have fought and died for this country and America's immigration laws were fixed from the very beginning to be a outpost for Europeans. I mean even Americans up until the recent area we're known around the world as Pan-Europeans.
ALSO, If you do not care about culture and a certain texture of life, do you care about free speech or gun control? Conservative/Libertarian non-whites are anomaly and pew research clearly shows this. The orchestrated European diaspora in the West is a product of cultural marxists wearing tiny hats. That's a whole different conversation though.
Research the impacts of the 1965 immigration act if you ever have time. Also look at how every immigration policy prior gave preference to Europeans. Another big lie from Ted Kennedy.
It seems your more proud to be a European than a Christian. You made statements that seem to have more faith in your ancestors and their accomplishments then the God who created them. Let’s say your European ancestors culture and history ; your world is flipped upside down. Let’s say that Hispanics and Africans and Asians begin to flourish even more then now in literature , biblical scholarship, education, the sciences, etc..... Lets say your children who are of European dissent become a minority. What do you fear? You should fear the God who created them . It could be possible that God is testing all ethnic groups call my home power and influence over the world. In the past Europeans have been known to have created man-made ideologies in the 21st-century that has wiped out nations , turned Africans into animals and I put them into human zoos. Europeans created the word race which never existed before. I really want to know what do you fear if mass immigration in America is Gods plan. Then you have no power of your own to change his plan and your fears are misplaced. You want to remain in a nation that is not even Christ like anymore ? Why? I’d rather have The promises of God. All nations, people of all tongues, all people praise God together. Let’s let go of our own will and shape our minds around the will of God. We are so finite and our hearts can miss lead us in so many different ways. Please remember that!
@@TheSierriacoates yeah nice strawman. I love all people. I just like the texture of life the West has. I appreciate my culture and all the accomplishments my ancestors have done. I appreciate the cross 10 times more though. So, before you try and call me a rAcIsT, which is what you are essentially doing, try not to assume. You know what they say about assuming.
@@infidelhardcore7881 Sierra Ogunseye didn't call you racist but idolatrous.
This entire conversation is so outside of jurisdictional boundaries is disgusting. Socialism. Crossing boundaries of mans jurisdictional authority over his own home. Its not a sicial problem or a church problem to discuss, its plainly within individual mans jurisdiction. And just because people socially can't see the benefits of somebody else's life doesn't make that person's life choices wrong. Interracial marriage isnt a social problem and if you want to call it a social problem then that makes you the problem
This guy speaks a good mix of pure BS mostly and a bit of common sense
I was married to a black woman for 7 years. There are a great deal more challenges.
Im not sure of your experience but as someone who is white who dates many black women, it is tough. For me, it has been the political/social divide. So many black woman are very liberal, who see themselves as oppressed. It is hard to get along with that philosophy when i am a more conservative individual now.
@@samstan4462Go for actual African women. African Americans are very brainwashed and think in one way most of the time
@@OmarOsman98 thanks. I have. They dont have the same anger and mentality as those born here.