I also really loved this episode. I interpreted Fletcher faking the injury not to fool his brother in the long run, but to allow him to step up as the hero older brother that Fletcher has always seen him as. And this also ends up giving him a genuine welcome into the modded friend group.
The original short story was quite sad. The non modded brother felt he was being condescended on and this drove an even deeper wedge between the brothers. In the end the modded brother hardened his heart against the elder brother and stopped seeking his validation.
The animation style was unique, the entire idea of a new world where people are modded to preform beyond normal human capabilities is awesome. The fact that they can move so quickly and do these badass things is dope. But it’s the aesthetic of the episode that really draws me in, the whole dark and “cyber gothic” vibe it has with the character designs being more punk rock and rebellious looking, as well as the friendship aspect of the story and the way they seem to connect and interact with eachother.
Don't think it could be defined as a "style" in itself, but rather a composition of a lot more other stylizations in cartoons and modern art. Someone in another comment pointed out the work of Robert Valley and Tron: Uprising, and they do have a similar style
i love the animation within both ICE and Zima Blue. Most likely because it refers to a similar style to Tron Uprising which i think should be brought back. Aside from that, I saw the dots, just could't connect them till now. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work
If you're familiar with some of the Gorillaz' animated music videos and Disney's Tron: Uprising and Motor City, Robert Valley is the guy you might be interested in if you want to see more of this style.
Very interesting video. I’ve never actually read the source material but I had such a different take away from the ending in the show. I thought that the younger brother faked his injury during the race in the hopes that his older brother would try to help him and then die in the process. The entire episode is so dark and dreary that I was primed to think that there was a more sinister side to the ending. Especially since the older brother is displayed as such a burden to the family.
The main thing I take away from these is that the short stories are made too short in these episodes, even 50% more length and we would get some amazing context and back story, but im glad i know to go check out the source material to get more info!
100% agree. if there is one thing you could criticize in that episode, it is that it's too short. I would have loved to see 5+ more minutes explaining the backstory a bit more. The short story offered some more material.
Was thinking the same thing. The art style is very nostalgic and considering Robert Valley was part of the animation dept. for Gorillaz music videos it makes this whole short even more awesome!
At the end, when Extro saw how Fletcher was jumping, he made us realize at the same time what just happened. It's not so subtle if you were paying attention but it's a beautiful scene if you were immersed in the story. In the same breath, the story explores human potential and how we can overcome any challenges with the right goals. And the whales! The animation! The dialogue! The sound track! The most stunning show I've seen in a while! Speechless
My favorite episode honestly. I do agree that the ending is way better in the show. Anyhow keep up the good work. Love the content and can't wait for the xmas episode analysis. (Also I love the accent the natives speak in)
Reminds me of my two sisters ( I'm the oldest bro) cause my second oldest sister has been surpassed in terms of height by my baby sister. My mom, dad, and I now call for the "bigger" sister help out the second oldest, when ever she can't reach something.
Thanks for posting this, I immediately went on CZcams searching for a an explanation video. I had no idea of the original shorts ending. I do like the videos ending better!
This episode gave me darling in the franx vibes with dome like plantations, resource harvesters and giant blue monsters just without the big mecha waifus
I didn’t understand that either. But then I heard Fletcher was force grown instead of born, which means he’s genetically engineered for the mods. It’s possible there’s no procedure for having anybody else modded because attempting to do so could prove fatal
to clarify about 'oxo of the jaw implant', in the short story there's actually 2 oxo's. the regular one that we also see in the animated short, and the other oxo, oxo-of-the-jaw-implant. the other oxo is replaced by the bug eyed girl in the short, named pricilla or something. you can catch it in the subtitles during the final alleyway scene i think, but she's never explicitly named in conversation.
It reminded me of Tron Uprising .. men i still have hope for that show to comeback and continue to that arrival of CLU and the whole army.. the colors the vibrance of the city the music .. this ICE episode was amazing and no CAP that save roll from Sedge was so awesome to keep the momentum..
Pretty much agree on this one. Also my favorite one and exactly for that moment in the end. Also find the new ending a refreshingly uplifting one in all the misery and dread the last season brought ;-) Although the new season wasn´t that hard hitting like the last one , it had a more "San Junipero" approach to the Black Mirror darkness of the last season. ;-) )
The second season felt rather toned down compared to season 1. I loved Ice, Pop Squad and Tall Grass, but the others felt like they were... lacking, for want of a better word.
I don't understand how it is confirmed? Through visual communication they don't imply ANY FAKED INJURY in there frames. Much to the contrary, they explicitly draw the viewer in to see that Fletch's fall was accidental. I think this topic is a waist of breath and clearly communicated to be as seen on frame. This was a life or death risk which, as his brother joined him spontaneously, had little to no chance of being preconceived. It just falls flat. The more important aspect is that the brother MAY WONDER if his brother was so careless, if he is surrounded by people that would let him die ("you're on your own, Fletch"), and if this experience sparks an interest for Sedgewick to be modified. Everybody wants to pretend he FELL ON PURPOSE which goes against all foretelling and visualisation. I put my money on the more obvious conclusion; THIS WAS TRULLY AN ACCIDENT.
You can argue the fall wasnt intentional or planned, but I would argue there are tell tale signs he wasnt injured from it and that in context of what happens afterwards is what matters.
im pretty sure they implied him faking when he hopped right off his leg when they took his bros hat. & as pointed in the video he clearly uses his supposed fucked up leg ( that he happened to hurt like a min before ) to guide his fall
@@lijahmadeitfoo5449 @Lobos222 It all comes down to one shot; the short lasting foot injury in the freshly broken ice. The close-up undoubtedly presents an unexpected occurrence. That being said, I don't doubt that Fletch could have started walking or running on his own earlier than shown, due to the modifications, but he was stunned unexpectedly and in the visual language of events don't show any indication that it was not genuine. His quick recovery is due to the mods..., and seem to me like it is meant to further show how the Extro's efforts still won't make him one of them. Regardless of the graphic novel, this short film only caters insight to those who know the printed version.
The original short story implied that Sedgewick was a natural birth whereas his brother was artificially born and implanted with mods whilst he was still a fetus.
@@zebediahduarte708 maybe Earth was a not very tecnologically-advanced planet (pretty less advanced than the planets which other colonists came from), so the technology of modifications appeared on earth in the time interval between Sedgewick and Fletcher were born. ._. p.s. sorry for my bad english
sadly we dont know. They are coming from earth though, where being modded might not have been the norm. Also it has been suggested somewhere that you coud propbably only get modded at birth. The older brother was born on earth (not modded), the younger was born in a place where modding was the norm
@@mtgbast the modded brother wasn’t conceived normally. He was born in a “vat” or something probably representing maybe a surrogate /donor birth maybe the father became sterile from all the work in the factory and they used a sperm donor, for example , of someone of different race hence making the baby “modded” from birth. It’s seems like a well thought out work so I think it’s worth analysing. Would the parents buy expensive upgrades for the kid and not the other . It has to be a birth thing (or a representation of one) IMO. why else would they leave the older son out. It’s not mentioned that it was medical or anything it really comes across as more of a “don’t get a choice” thing that’s why big bro never comes across jealous. Inferior , yes. but I don’t think he feels like he got left out at Xmas or has to eat scraps of food. It’s just how things worked out. Genetics
I also really loved this episode.
I interpreted Fletcher faking the injury not to fool his brother in the long run, but to allow him to step up as the hero older brother that Fletcher has always seen him as. And this also ends up giving him a genuine welcome into the modded friend group.
That’s actually cool ash
This is exactly what I thought when I saw him start running on his injured leg
I thought maybe he just healed at a quicker rate because of his mod
The original short story was quite sad. The non modded brother felt he was being condescended on and this drove an even deeper wedge between the brothers. In the end the modded brother hardened his heart against the elder brother and stopped seeking his validation.
The animation style was unique, the entire idea of a new world where people are modded to preform beyond normal human capabilities is awesome. The fact that they can move so quickly and do these badass things is dope. But it’s the aesthetic of the episode that really draws me in, the whole dark and “cyber gothic” vibe it has with the character designs being more punk rock and rebellious looking, as well as the friendship aspect of the story and the way they seem to connect and interact with eachother.
do you know what the artstyle is called pls help
Don't think it could be defined as a "style" in itself, but rather a composition of a lot more other stylizations in cartoons and modern art. Someone in another comment pointed out the work of Robert Valley and Tron: Uprising, and they do have a similar style
@@NotZ4ch kind of like mike mignola
This was my favorite episode of the season, absolutely gorgeous
Great choice!
Watching this high, on a LCD-tv, in a dark room was honestly one of the highlights in my life
@@helmutstein1178 HA I’ll bet lmao
@@helmutstein1178 now try it on shrooms
Lol
I couldn't stop thinking of the Gorillaz while watching this episode
Right? The art style is pretty similar
Robert Valley the director of ICE worked on the Gorillaz music videos since the beginning. He has a distinctive comic book style animation.
That makes sooo much sense
I was thinking the same thing.
Me too
Love this episode. The sound of Fletch screaming "Seeedge" is just so good. The whole escape sequence is awesome.
But even better is the scene where his parents talk about him and you can see his expression when he hears what they say.
i love the animation within both ICE and Zima Blue. Most likely because it refers to a similar style to Tron Uprising which i think should be brought back. Aside from that, I saw the dots, just could't connect them till now. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work
Same with Motorcity.
and with the Gorillaz Plastic Beach music videos
robert valley is the character designer for all these shows
I think the style is similar to Gorillaz’s
Lol that’s why I loved it so much, it looked like tron uprising and I love tron and tron uprising really good animation.
If you look closely when they are all looking at the whales Sedgwick is holding up the wrong leg claiming it’s broken
Loved this episode. So much potential too, we really only got a glimpse of it all
Agreed, incredibly well executed middle chapter
I couldn't agree more this one has the potential to continue the story
I love this animation style, its insanely beautiful and extremely nostalgic to me for some reason
Same, i also couldn’t pin point the nostalgia but thinking a bit hard, it reminds me of the animation of samurai jack.
@@YasirAlidr yeah the design is reminding me of Kim Possible or Danny Phantom, but with much more detail
If you're familiar with some of the Gorillaz' animated music videos and Disney's Tron: Uprising and Motor City, Robert Valley is the guy you might be interested in if you want to see more of this style.
@@hattercatmeowingtons that’s exactly what it reminded me of ! and that animated short film called pinched
To me it looked like a Gorillaz music video
Literally every short story can be made into an incredible TV show, love this one.
“Run, you f*cking extro!”
Absolutely loved this episode only because he did a Ranger roll to get his brother up from the ground. What a fucking legend
Very interesting video. I’ve never actually read the source material but I had such a different take away from the ending in the show. I thought that the younger brother faked his injury during the race in the hopes that his older brother would try to help him and then die in the process. The entire episode is so dark and dreary that I was primed to think that there was a more sinister side to the ending. Especially since the older brother is displayed as such a burden to the family.
OMG!!! I THOUGHT THE SAME EXACT THING!!!🙀
He never was displayed as a burden
In starting scene, we see the father talk about the lack of character in sedge. I guess fletcher want to test this theory. Idk
The main thing I take away from these is that the short stories are made too short in these episodes, even 50% more length and we would get some amazing context and back story, but im glad i know to go check out the source material to get more info!
100% agree. if there is one thing you could criticize in that episode, it is that it's too short. I would have loved to see 5+ more minutes explaining the backstory a bit more. The short story offered some more material.
@@mtgbast What's the name of and author of the short story?
this animation style reminded me so much of Genndy Tartakovsky. easily my favorite episode.
Was thinking the same thing. The art style is very nostalgic and considering Robert Valley was part of the animation dept. for Gorillaz music videos it makes this whole short even more awesome!
Who the fuck would be happy that someone faked an injury for you to feel extraordinary.
At the end, when Extro saw how Fletcher was jumping, he made us realize at the same time what just happened. It's not so subtle if you were paying attention but it's a beautiful scene if you were immersed in the story. In the same breath, the story explores human potential and how we can overcome any challenges with the right goals.
And the whales! The animation! The dialogue! The sound track! The most stunning show I've seen in a while! Speechless
Wish there were more episodes this season and a continuation of some of their priors from season 1.
"What makes you different can make you stronger"
That's my philosophy
Thats just common sense
nice.
This is literally one of my favorite episodes of this season, I rewatched this episode so many times because of how real it felt
I like this ending more than the short story. And those whales are beautiful!
What short story?
@@BollyToHolly During this video he explains the different ending the short story had
@@Neos1heOne bro, This is what I’m not able to understand which short story he is comparing with?
@@BollyToHolly Oh sorry i thought the short story might of had the same tile as the film, maybe leave Bryce a comment? He usually replies
@@Neos1heOne yea, I did, actually, but thanks for the help
My favorite episode honestly. I do agree that the ending is way better in the show. Anyhow keep up the good work. Love the content and can't wait for the xmas episode analysis.
(Also I love the accent the natives speak in)
This episode along with shape shifters, good hunting, and pop squad were my favorites
Reminds me of my two sisters ( I'm the oldest bro) cause my second oldest sister has been surpassed in terms of height by my baby sister. My mom, dad, and I now call for the "bigger" sister help out the second oldest, when ever she can't reach something.
I think my favorite part of the episode was when they were playing like a hardcore version of hacky sack
Thanks for posting this, I immediately went on CZcams searching for a an explanation video. I had no idea of the original shorts ending. I do like the videos ending better!
Loved and appreciated this analysis thank you!
This episode gave me darling in the franx vibes with dome like plantations, resource harvesters and giant blue monsters just without the big mecha waifus
I still didn’t understand why Sedgwick. Wasn’t modded while Fletcher is.
on earth it was rare, so maybe the parents only had enough money for one and only had the opportunity of doing it to the younger brother
@@amtra1778 ahh nice theory... I thought at first that Sedge just didn’t want to because he never thought he would actually live there eventually
Sedgwick is the older brother, he was born outside and wasn't modded at birth, his younger brother, Fletcher, is born in the planet, therefore modded
@@ringkunmori oh I get it, but I don’t think Fletch was born in the ice colonies. From how they talk, it seems like they transferred there recently
I didn’t understand that either. But then I heard Fletcher was force grown instead of born, which means he’s genetically engineered for the mods. It’s possible there’s no procedure for having anybody else modded because attempting to do so could prove fatal
I thought it could be interpreted that he pretended to get hurt to get rid of his unmodified brother
That dark man
this is my 2nd favorite ldr episode, i hope for a 2nd part or something
I loved this episode of LD+R. I just wish it had been about 5 minutes longer.
The sound design in this episode is also outstanding
Love the brotherly support in the short. Fletcher gave him a hand to prove his older brother is able to pull his own weight.
honestly best apisode
steallar and different animation along with a really nice story
Oh yeah you the best for doing love death and robots. I just started volume 2 yesterday!!
Love these videos, keep them coming!
to clarify about 'oxo of the jaw implant', in the short story there's actually 2 oxo's. the regular one that we also see in the animated short, and the other oxo, oxo-of-the-jaw-implant. the other oxo is replaced by the bug eyed girl in the short, named pricilla or something. you can catch it in the subtitles during the final alleyway scene i think, but she's never explicitly named in conversation.
Recently I have read in some article in the internet that her name is Pressima. I haven't known it for year or more since I watched the episode!
But when you look at Robert Valley's Concept Art, her name is Anton
Nice Video :D Enjoyed this episode quite a lot ^^
Great analysis man, keep it up.
Thank you so much!
It reminded me of Tron Uprising .. men i still have hope for that show to comeback and continue to that arrival of CLU and the whole army.. the colors the vibrance of the city the music .. this ICE episode was amazing and no CAP that save roll from Sedge was so awesome to keep the momentum..
Your videos should be getting alot more views
I wonder what kind of drug all the modded people were taking, as if being modded wasn't enough of a buzz?
I was high when i first watched this episode. Probably one of the reasons it’s my favourite
Honestly the whole series shouldve had this animation style... the artwork is stand out enough to be its own thing.
Do an analysis on Tall Grass, that one is very interesting and in my opinion one of the best episodes of Volume 2👌🏻
I will try to!
Could you do a video on the language spoken? Like did it say anything about where it came from in the original story?
Well portuguese and some spanish words...
it took me by suprise....
Pretty much agree on this one. Also my favorite one and exactly for that moment in the end.
Also find the new ending a refreshingly uplifting one in all the misery and dread the last season brought ;-)
Although the new season wasn´t that hard hitting like the last one , it had a more "San Junipero" approach to the Black Mirror darkness of the last season. ;-)
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The second season felt rather toned down compared to season 1. I loved Ice, Pop Squad and Tall Grass, but the others felt like they were... lacking, for want of a better word.
I kinda felt like fletch was purposely trying to kill sedgewick but this does put a smile on my face.
love death robots is truly a treasure we must appreciate the good in it
Where can I find the original short version?
What short story you’re talking/comparing about/with and where can I read /see it?
Awwwe im glad its a happy ending I got an eerie feeling from the ending before watching this
Loved this episode!
Same, loved the art style too!
watching this high is great
Gang shit
This was my fav episode as well
Great choice!
This is my favorite episode
Such a good choice!
love the video
I didn know this episode needed an explanation.
this episode was soo good my fav
Solid favorite!
Agreed upon solution
A whole theory for one episode
BENGA!!
Benga!
Define benga
ice is deffinately my favroute, second would be the one with the mechanical fox
i feel like the creator made the new seer trailer from apex
I still find myself randomly saying "Facking extrooo!!" after all this time xD
good stuff
Thank you!
Where can I watch the original short story
I gotta ask where is the death part of the story I get the robots and love but I got no death broke the formula
Isn't living with the knowledge that everyone is better than you bad enough ? And they missed death by moments.
this looks like the animation intro of love death robots!!!!
Does anyone know any movies or shows that are similar to this episode
Nice
Does anyone know why he didn't want to be motted like his little brother?
EXTROOOOOOOOOOOO
Extrooooo!!!!
RAAAN YOU FAACKING EXTRO
Benga Benga
Did you just call me Gerald hahah
Oh, hey Gerald!
Hi Gerald!
Also probably did it to see if his brother cared about him.
"Modded" = REPLICANT..... you're welcome
Wait, so the ppl of new greenland are born with their power or are they all modded?
People New Greenland!
@@BryceEdwardBrown wait did you just grammar Nazi him?
@@MorkandGork I’m lost 😞 English is not my first language 😢
@@simonditomasso9868 don't worry about it it's nothing bad
I think it’s mandatory on New Greenland bcus of the conditions and such. Whereas on Earth, it’s more conditional.
I don't understand how it is confirmed? Through visual communication they don't imply ANY FAKED INJURY in there frames. Much to the contrary, they explicitly draw the viewer in to see that Fletch's fall was accidental. I think this topic is a waist of breath and clearly communicated to be as seen on frame. This was a life or death risk which, as his brother joined him spontaneously, had little to no chance of being preconceived. It just falls flat. The more important aspect is that the brother MAY WONDER if his brother was so careless, if he is surrounded by people that would let him die ("you're on your own, Fletch"), and if this experience sparks an interest for Sedgewick to be modified. Everybody wants to pretend he FELL ON PURPOSE which goes against all foretelling and visualisation. I put my money on the more obvious conclusion; THIS WAS TRULLY AN ACCIDENT.
You can argue the fall wasnt intentional or planned, but I would argue there are tell tale signs he wasnt injured from it and that in context of what happens afterwards is what matters.
im pretty sure they implied him faking when he hopped right off his leg when they took his bros hat. & as pointed in the video he clearly uses his supposed fucked up leg ( that he happened to hurt like a min before ) to guide his fall
@@Lobos222 How would you know he was not injured? It shows an injury and quick recovery. What is expected from a mod.
@@lijahmadeitfoo5449 @Lobos222 It all comes down to one shot; the short lasting foot injury in the freshly broken ice. The close-up undoubtedly presents an unexpected occurrence. That being said, I don't doubt that Fletch could have started walking or running on his own earlier than shown, due to the modifications, but he was stunned unexpectedly and in the visual language of events don't show any indication that it was not genuine. His quick recovery is due to the mods..., and seem to me like it is meant to further show how the Extro's efforts still won't make him one of them. Regardless of the graphic novel, this short film only caters insight to those who know the printed version.
Wtf!? Greenland? Thats my homecountry XD
I thought it was Europa
wait, are they farming farts?
But why isn't he also modified like his younger brother?
i forgot
Lmk if u find out
Because he born naturaly
@@santymartin7383so was his bro but he got modded when they left earth. If that’s the case then I don’t see why the older brother wasn’t modded also ?
Coz he's a rare case since they said something hes the only unmodded one in a light year
does anyone know the name of the emo one? the one with his hair over his eyes??
Oxo.
But why is he unmodded ?
The original short story implied that Sedgewick was a natural birth whereas his brother was artificially born and implanted with mods whilst he was still a fetus.
@@GreenDinoRanger My point is why did they enhance one kid but not the other? Totally unfair.
@@zebediahduarte708 maybe Earth was a not very tecnologically-advanced planet (pretty less advanced than the planets which other colonists came from), so the technology of modifications appeared on earth in the time interval between Sedgewick and Fletcher were born. ._. p.s. sorry for my bad english
So basicly you need to read the original shortstory for this to have a fulfilling ending...
Zima blue was miles better than this...
Benga benga
Why was one brother modded and the other was not ?
sadly we dont know. They are coming from earth though, where being modded might not have been the norm. Also it has been suggested somewhere that you coud propbably only get modded at birth. The older brother was born on earth (not modded), the younger was born in a place where modding was the norm
@@mtgbast the modded brother wasn’t conceived normally. He was born in a “vat” or something probably representing maybe a surrogate /donor birth maybe the father became sterile from all the work in the factory and they used a sperm donor, for example , of someone of different race hence making the baby “modded” from birth. It’s seems like a well thought out work so I think it’s worth analysing. Would the parents buy expensive upgrades for the kid and not the other . It has to be a birth thing (or a representation of one) IMO. why else would they leave the older son out. It’s not mentioned that it was medical or anything it really comes across as more of a “don’t get a choice” thing that’s why big bro never comes across jealous. Inferior , yes. but I don’t think he feels like he got left out at Xmas or has to eat scraps of food. It’s just how things worked out. Genetics
Plot
I just don't get why they are disturbing the whales???
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Does the shortstory say that they are not genetically real brothers? Because one looks asian and one looks caucasian.
Bruh genetics
@@UnlimiCast huh?
@@venorant-2322 they both Asian just maybe and sledge just looks less
@@UnlimiCast btw, their mom wears typical asian hairstyle. so yes maybe mixed-origin.
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