dont forget to mention the most important aspect of using heavier damper fluid and smaller piston holes , it increases loading on the tyres , just like if you go too soft the car will roll through all its travel and bottom out the damper , this in turn causes the car to over load the tyre and slip or even grip roll occurs . with the increased forces on the tyres , the tyres heat up faster , this can manifest as over heating the tyre and the car will get grip rolly as it goes through the run. the shock angle changes the progression rate of the spring and damper , the more they are laid down the later the tyre loading occurs as the car has more initial roll thus the tyre isnt loaded as hard until the damper is half way through its stroke . everything we are doing with these cars is about changing the way the tyre reacts to the surface
Hi Jamie, what what shock set up is best for outdoor. I’ve got the b6.4 kit set up. I’m finding it a bit slow into corners and not reacting quick enough . Could you give me a guide to help me improve. I have red springs on front blue on rear.
I like how when you don't really understand something you come out and say so instead of trying to fake your way through it. Anyway 🙂 If I went to the 2.5mm pistons to calm the car down would I need to change oil weight? The AE site says thicker pistons increase the pack. Would low speed damping still feel the same? Calmer cornering with better jump landing? Using stock 1.6 and 1.7. Sounds like a good upgrade.Thanks.
I noticed a lot of setups for carpet/Astro use large hole pistons, especially for older 12mm, is this better for flat landings? Carpet tracks usually quite smooth so can’t see that being used for bumps. As I have 2x1.8 on rear and car will bounce back up on a flat landing jump.
Good stuff :) Was hoping to hear your thoughts as to why we generally run smaller piston holes front versus rear? Assume it’s related to oil volumes and shock size differences front to rear?
@@hallbrothersrc3308 thanks for the answer, have spent alot of time lately to figure out how to tune my shocks to eat up bumps/ruts and still feel nice over the jumps.
dont forget to mention the most important aspect of using heavier damper fluid and smaller piston holes , it increases loading on the tyres , just like if you go too soft the car will roll through all its travel and bottom out the damper , this in turn causes the car to over load the tyre and slip or even grip roll occurs . with the increased forces on the tyres , the tyres heat up faster , this can manifest as over heating the tyre and the car will get grip rolly as it goes through the run. the shock angle changes the progression rate of the spring and damper , the more they are laid down the later the tyre loading occurs as the car has more initial roll thus the tyre isnt loaded as hard until the damper is half way through its stroke . everything we are doing with these cars is about changing the way the tyre reacts to the surface
I really appreciate how thorough you fellas are.
Great explaination, I learned alot! Thanks!
What would be a great wt oil for shocks for racing on track ??? And doing jumps
Hi Jamie, what what shock set up is best for outdoor. I’ve got the b6.4 kit set up. I’m finding it a bit slow into corners and not reacting quick enough . Could you give me a guide to help me improve. I have red springs on front blue on rear.
You do a great job of articulating these details. Super useful info, thanks!
I like how when you don't really understand something you come out and say so instead of trying to fake your way through it. Anyway 🙂 If I went to the 2.5mm pistons to calm the car down would I need to change oil weight? The AE site says thicker pistons increase the pack. Would low speed damping still feel the same? Calmer cornering with better jump landing? Using stock 1.6 and 1.7. Sounds like a good upgrade.Thanks.
What about droop?
NASCAR Setup at RHR? Noticed the pics of your brothers 4wd had different front camber link locations L&R.
I noticed a lot of setups for carpet/Astro use large hole pistons, especially for older 12mm, is this better for flat landings? Carpet tracks usually quite smooth so can’t see that being used for bumps.
As I have 2x1.8 on rear and car will bounce back up on a flat landing jump.
Good stuff :)
Was hoping to hear your thoughts as to why we generally run smaller piston holes front versus rear?
Assume it’s related to oil volumes and shock size differences front to rear?
It''s due to there being a lower piston speed in the front because the shocks are mounted further in
Next please!!
hi , what ride hight were you running there?
So why on some tracks do you run 12mm over 13 mm…
how is it to use a piston with 2 holes 1.7 and 1.8 in the same piston?
The shaft will obviously pull to one side a bit but it doesn't seem to matter. I think it's fine if you want between👍
@@hallbrothersrc3308 thanks for the answer, have spent alot of time lately to figure out how to tune my shocks to eat up bumps/ruts and still feel nice over the jumps.
..lol.. you dont know what happens with more holes vs hole size..?
Would you rather have more holes or just a smaller hole size? Quality over quantity 👌