@@PrimeofPerfection Yes. I think he was right to believe that he was important but not to the Sith. The Sith does not care about the things that make Dooku unique. While you can understand why he chose the path that he did, it was the wrong one and that is something that he and Vader both learned and have in common. Both are former Jedi who are not 100% evil and have more to them than just being a killing machine for the Sith. They've taken a darker path for personal reasons and paid the price for it. I think Vader became more evil than Dooku and killed a lot more than Dooku did but Vader was a lot angrier than Dooku. He did become a killing machine for the Sith as he was driven by pain. However, that wasn't just what he was all abbout, he's more complex than that. He's somewhere in between Maul and Dooku, in terms of what type of Sith he was. Dooku was calm, tactical and refined, Maul was a savage. Vader is the personification of pain and a symbol of fear learning to to shut himself off from all of his emotions. As Anakin, he was a very emotional being.
My understanding was that the rule of two was ment as a strategy to defeat the jedi , abandoning it afterwards or having dark side adepts like inquisitorrs made sense, like two senior sith , a master and grand master of the sith like the jedi , ( yoda and windu) an army of dark side knights, obviously not as powerful as the masters makes sense.
That’s what Palpatine would have told Dooku, but in reality Darth Bane and all true sith lords following him meant it to be forever, as Darth Bane found that power in the Dark side reaches it’s peak when concentrated within less individuals rather than spread out among multiple dark side users. No true Sith lord would want an army of Sith because that would mean letting go of power which a true sith would never do. Some exceptions are made for low level dark side agents like Asajj or the inquisitors, but they were never true sith who could pull power away from its true masters.
It was created so the sith don't destroy themselves. In the book Darth Bane Path of destruction the Brotherhood of sith were never at full power because of to much infighting. Actually in Kotor 2 Kriea even says "as all sith do without a strong opponent they turned on each other" So really the rule of two had nothing to do with defeating the Jedi but rather was a tactical move so the ways of the sith could survive. What Bane did to combat the Jedi was change their ways of fighting. Instead of big battles the scorched planets they would fight from the shadows. That is a big reason why the Jedi fall in the prequels. They thought it would go down how it did 1,000 years prior. So they also thought that winning the clones wars was the best way to defeat the sith and didn't realize until it was to late that they had been caught in a trap. The Sith adapted how they fought with the rule of two being used to keep the sith ways. While i do love the idea of the inquisitors being used to hunt Jedi, it would stand to reason that they are not true sith which is why non have the title of Darth.
The reason for the rule of two wasn’t simply a revenge tactic. Bane observed that the Sith were just fighting amongst themselves. Killing each other off out of jealousy, greed and lust for power. Bane saw this left the Sith Order vulnerable to the Jedi. Thus: he instituted the rule of two. Because in his mind, the Force was venom, not fire. There should be one master to hold the power, and one apprentice to crave it.
Dooku always strived to be a teacher. He would attempt to teach even if the other was his opponent. he believes he would teach new students. He only wished to do so without the Jedi interference. He wasn't able to understand palpatine never wanted anything substantial or substitute to Jedi on any level. Palpatine wanted actual control. Not discipline as dooku thought.
I think Dooku would have been a better master for Anakin than Palpatine. Dooku is more like what Anakin thought Palpatine was before he revealed himself, as opposed to being pure evil like Palpatine actually was. Anakin would learn this later but was past the point of no return by then. Whether Anakin is Jedi or Sith, there are two masters who would have been better for Anakin than the masters he got in Obi-Wan and Palpatine. Those are Dooku and Qui Gonn Jinn. Obi-Wan was very good to Anakin but Qui Gonn was a better candidate for being Anakin's master as he would have been the father figure he needed. Also, he was not controlled solely by what the Jedi order said and did. There is no doubt that Qui Gonn was supposed to be and would have been the one to train Anakin, had he not died. I don't believe that Dooku was totally evil, so therefore, I think he would have taught Anakin about the dark side and corrupted him to an extent by encouraging him to use it and turn away from the light, but not to the extent that Palpatine did. I don't think Anakin would have changed so drastically or been manipulated as much. Therefore, he may not have become as unstable. As I've said before, Dooku is like a Jedi who has a different point of view from what the Jedi order has. I think Dooku would have encouraged Anakin to be more controlled in what he does, like the Jedi would. Palpatine encouraged Vader to let the emotions take over because that was how Palpatine was able to manipulate him. I think he also thought that it would increase Anakin's power level faster. That may have been true to an extent but in a way it was blinding. It was too much too fast. Anakin became almost out of control as a result. He needed time to refine his new powers and with such a massive surge in power, he couldn't do that as quickly as perhaps he and the Emperor would have liked. He was overwhelmed with more power than he knew what to do with when he fought Obi-Wan. He couldn't manage his ego, arrogance and that huge surge in power all at once during that battle. He still fought well but he underestimated the opponent and overestimated himself. The power surge only added to his ego and to his arrogance. That is what cost him. He knew he was more powerful and a superior duelist to Obi-Wan but he assumed it would be easy and got frustrated when it wasn't. He seemed to forget that Obi-Wan knows how he fights better than anyone and the importance of being in full control of what you are doing. Obi-Wan was and Anakin wasn't. Obi-Wan was able to out-think Anakin in this duel. To say that Obi-Wan had a clear head going into this might be pushing it a bit but his was clearer than Anakin's and unlike Anakin, he was able to clear it enough to not lose control of the situation. Anakin lost his head and was full of emotion as well as confusion. Obi-Wan was much better at detaching himself from that and being able to control it. Anakin's objective was to kill once the duel started and Obi-Wan's was surviving. Survival instinct is very strong which gave Obi-Wan a much better stategy. It wasn't until both Vader and Palpatine realised the consequences of giving in to emotion for themselves as well as others that they decided to veer away from it. That is another reason why Anakin would have benfited from Qui Gonn or Dooku. Qui Gonn trained Obi-Wan and Dooku trained Qui Gonn. All of them were very good at staying in control of themselves and it was passed down through the teachings. Those teachings were the reason why Obi-Wan survived and won duels against far more powerful and dangerous opponents such as Maul and Anakin/Vader. Anakin may have been more emotionally balanced if he had been taught by Qui Gonn Jinn, like Obi-Wan was. I think he would have still been an aggressive duelist but not as unstable in his personality. I also think that the Jedi should have protected Anakin's mother, particularly with them being worried about Anakin turning to the dark side. They must have been able to anticipate what may happen and how it would affect Anakin. Obi-Wan was like a brother to Anakin but Anakin needed a father and Dooku would have been like a grandfather, but not a totally evil one like Palpatine.
Basically Darth Tyrannus fell into the same trap as Darth Plagueis when he was alive. As he believed the Rule of Two had come to an end with him as he would achieve immortality for himself and his apprentice Darth Sidious and rule the galaxy together as equals. That lead Plagueis to his death in his sleep via being tortured by Sidious. Ironically while Dooku wasn't afraid of Anakin, Plagueis was because he knew that he was responsible for Anakin's birth when he tried to create a Force Sensitive being of his own with the Midi-Chlorians. But instead the Force fleed from him and made Shmi Skywalker pregnant with The Chosen One through the Midi-Chlorians. All while Palpatine was on Coruscant working on his political skills so he had no idea that Anakin was a representation of the Force striking back at the Sith.
Yes, Dooku was quite merciful for a Sith, particularly when it came to Anakin. He was almost like a mentor. Dooku then ends up dead. He should never have listened to Palpatine. That was the trap of the dark side for Dooku, Palpatine's betrayal. Dooku got screwed over. He was merciful to someone who became Palpatine's reason to get rid of him. Dooku was intelligent but maybe a bit too self-assured because he got played. That's what the Sith is for people who are not 100% evil. There is no longevity in it unless you're suffering. You can either die at a time when you think you're on top or you think you're on the brink of achieving your primary objective, or you can live to endure the suffering that you bring upon yourself and others. You are haunted by regret and failure for the rest of your life because you go past the point of no return. Once you're so far into it, it's hard to come back. That was Batman's reasoning for why he didn't kill. He wanted to at times and was capable but he would have been going to a dark place that he believed there was no way back from. The trauma of losing his parents stayed with him. He knew that taking a life would stay with him too. Dooku is more like what Sidious presented himself as when he was manipulating Anakin. He's not just some Sith Lord who is totally evil, he is someone not too disimilar from a Jedi but he has a different point of view. He's not darkness personified but he is unafraid of exploring it or using it. This meant turning away from the light, to some extent anyway.
Didn’t Dooku ask obi wan to join him in overthrowing the Sith Lord in episode two ?!? Seems like he did think of betraying sidious with help but at the same time walked the line with the emperor. And dooku was definitely unique.. he walked both the light and dark path hence no sith eyes .. Jedi we’re corrupt… Plus at the time dooku could have definitely killed anakin at any point during the clone wars .. Yerp
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Remember dooku was not fully nor inherently evil. He was never even close to being fully submerged in the dark. His very morality and honour would never allow it.
I feel like Count Dooku's aspirations where so much more grand as well as dangerous than Sidious and the galaxy is lucky Sidious's plan came to fruition
Nice video. I share most the ideas you conveyed. But as you sum it and I think that was both parties major flaw, both Dooku and the Jedi Order, basically everybody but Sidious, underestimated greatly Anakin - which led, in opposite ways, to their fall. Cheers.
Had Palpatine kept Dooku alive, recruited Maul and Oppress back to the fold instead of slaying Savage and defeating Maul, and treated Anakin as a potential alley instead of a symbolic deterrent, and trained the Inquisitors as actual Sith Generals to boot, that would have been the start of one fierce Army. He was the greatest Sith Lord to date, but had his paranoia was a flaw that cost him.
Then Savage would be enraged that Dooku treated him as shit. Dooku would want Maul's head for killing Qui-gon. Anakin would want revenge on Dooku for taking his arm. The Inquisitors would be plotting against the others because they would dislike to be second grade sith. And of course, all of them would start to question one day why they follow this asshole on the top. If Anakin and Dooku would team up for example, they would beat the shit out of Sidious. There is a reason why the rule of two was created. In legends, in the Old Republic era for example, the sith were just as busy killing each other during wars as they were to kill jedi. They did not think of themsleves as a part of some grand order, all of them had visions, goals and schemes, and they were willing to put their Empire behind these goals in priority. The rule of two simplified the playing field. Thougth it is amazing that they somehow did not die out with just two of them existing- a simple ship crash would have ended their grand plan.
Fun video as always but kind of nonsense that dooku would know that Anakin was being prepared to be his replacement, maybe as a challenge he could've accepted that, but thinking that both could cohexist is nonsense.. only 2 sith could exist simultaneously in theory, that's why Palpatine oredered him to get rid of Ventress.. so he knew an army of sith was never going to exist, keep rocking and stay safe
Dooku is an idiot. I'll never, ever understand why so many people in the SW universe think it's a good idea to trust Palpatine. He's one of the most obviously evil characters ever even before he becomes Emperor.
That just shows how much of a mastermind and manipulative person palpatine was. That doesn’t make Dooku an idiot it makes him a victim. The entire jedi order were fooled by this man. Hell the entire galaxy was fooled by this man. Truely a mastermind of evil
His "wife" Zulima couldn't even remember the date of the day she married him. Her reasoning for committing contempt was she wanted to hear what Brandon was saying due to the upcoming custody hearing. I shudder to think what would have happened to her kids that were rated dark if Brandon had died. And interesting enough, one of the kids rated dark was one that had been particularly close to JJ. If Melanie skips away scot free it will just be an example of the gross negligence on behalf of law enforcement,who if not for Kay looking for JJ, would not have gotten any justice for Tammy.
Or if we just go by what is portrayed in the movie, thrice the pride tripple the fall might have been at work. Also, he had been instrumental to Sidious´ work for 13 years, there was no way he could tell when the backstab would come. Or if it would come at all. At the time of his death he rather saw himself as Sidious´ equal, it was only at the final moment that he realized how wrong he had been. I´m really glad that Christopher Lee convinced George that Dooku shouldn´t plead for mercy, it wouldn´t have fitted neither his voice nor the character. I don´t think it fits any sith, not Maul either, even though his brother had just been slain and he was being tortured. Lee´s expression tells us all we need to know, Dooku was simply so shocked by the treachery of Sidious that he couldn´t find any words.
Dooku didn’t know he just a tool to get to Darth king lord plagues son ….plagues in the end wanted a younger body of himself to transfer his soul to his younger body plagues lives dooku just enforced a tool of plagues plan to live forever only few have king live king plagues
Dooku did not underestimate Anakin Skywalker" The Order knew Anakin is The Chosen One to bring balance to The Force "inspired" by his instinctive grasp of The Force In Motion. This also inspired Count Dooku. Such that Dooku knew" that even his former master had to meditate to focus on The Force In Motion. Anakin Skywalker is" The Force In Motion. But" this is not clear to Yoda, -however Yoda reasoned" that an instinctive grasp of The Force In Motion is paramount to fulfilling The Prophecy. Not discounting all they have witnessed- "The Order agreed with The Grand Master". Dooku had watched Anakin" just as The Order did. But" Dooku did so -as a dignitary of Chancellor Palpatine's administration. After all" -he is The Count. 🌈🤓
Lol no it wasn’t. By the time Vader hit his prime he was unmatched by anyone, including Sidious. Sidious might have had more knowledge but Vader honed his powers. Only difference between Vader and Dooku was Dooku was more charismatic.
Dooku thought that he was "indispensable". But I have a quote that often runs through my head, when I get full of myself. "Indispensable people. Cemeteries are full of them."
You could almost forgive Dooku's ignorance, but Vader should have known better. Yet he was still caught flat footed when he himself was on the same receiving end.
I wouldn't be surprised some dark lords of the sith actually fled went into permanent exile when they felt their apprentice was getting strong enough to over throw them.
So, then why did things play out the way they did? We can wonder forever how much foreknowledge Sidious had; whether he knew Vader would come back from Mustafar less than he had been; broken and weakened, but both Legends and Canon Palpatine have demonstrated a certain willingness to bend, or outright ignore, even the rules of the Sith. In this way, Dooku still could have been useful, yet Palpatine had him get killed. I do understand it; he wanted to push Anakin into doing wrong, so that later he'd think about it when Windu was planning to do the same to Sidious, but Dooku could have been useful, and Palpatine did need more servants than just Vader...especially after Vader became different. Sure, hindsight is 20/20, bur I bet he wished he still had Dooku on hand when Vader was reduced, and they could no longer (for some reason) form a dyad. Oh well.
I still want to see prime Google versus prime Anakin Skywalker in his twenties before he became Vader his biggest potential was right there cuz we already know if Anakin got to his full potential you ain't stopping him
Seeing Count dooku as badass Villain he uses force lighting alot every time he fights an enemy similar to Palpatine instead of force choking people like Darth vader does🐈⬛🐈⬛.
I think Dooku was an absolute fool if he thought like that. As a Jedi he should have a strong reason not to trust the Sith, and yet he got absolutely played.
I don’t think I’d call dooku “one of the most powerful dark siders ever”. That’s a pretty difficult list to make right? Certainly an incredible duelist tho.
Nah the rule of 2 stands.. Palpatine knew and dooku should have known. The paranoia Sideous had was a tell all. Dooku and anakin would have usurped him.
I assumed Dooku would have wanted Anakin to become his apprentice and overthrow Sidious. I don’t believe Dooku ever respected Sidious. There were times where he bested Anankin and could have easily killed him. Anakin is much stronger in the force but Dooku was far more skilled dualist & thought things through. Anakin was brash & hot tempered & never thought things through as much as he should where Darth Vader was the complete opposite. Vader was always 10 steps ahead of his Adversaries, hell he probably could eventually overthrown Sidious he was so calculated in every move he made. Dooku’s arrogance got the best of him.
Dooku was a badass but not even close to being one if the most powerful Sith he wasn't even in the top 15 Sith lords. he was a epic dualist but he couldn't stand for to toe with the dark Lord of the old republic. Darth revan, Darth sion and Darth magus just to name a few would have made dooku there bitch but maybe I miss years what you said
I always took it as someone who had dozens of years of more experience looking down at a young up-start, basically a very rube boomer looking down at a millennial or Gen Z-er because they haven't seen what he's seen and considers them a weaker generation. But in the end, it's the younger generations that proved to be stronger; not by iron and blood, but by activism and the will to change things for the better. Take this however you like; good, bad, whatever, I'm curious about what ya'll have to say about this mess of a comment I made.
Imagine if Dooku got away at the last min at the beginning of Episode 1. The story could be that Sidious goes ahead with turning Anakin into his apprentice as Darth Vader and unleashes Order 66, but Dooku returns with Darth Maul (still upset with Sidious killing his brother) as his new Apprentice. The 2 of them would combat Sidious and Anakin (who in this version wouldn't get injured or deformed after fighting Yoda and Obi-Wan), for the right to rule the new empire!
Makes sense. Dooku always saw himself as more important than he actually was. Arrogance was his weakness.
Arrogant in his approach yet not selfish enough to be a Sith Master.
@@PrimeofPerfection Yes. I think he was right to believe that he was important but not to the Sith. The Sith does not care about the things that make Dooku unique. While you can understand why he chose the path that he did, it was the wrong one and that is something that he and Vader both learned and have in common. Both are former Jedi who are not 100% evil and have more to them than just being a killing machine for the Sith. They've taken a darker path for personal reasons and paid the price for it. I think Vader became more evil than Dooku and killed a lot more than Dooku did but Vader was a lot angrier than Dooku. He did become a killing machine for the Sith as he was driven by pain. However, that wasn't just what he was all abbout, he's more complex than that. He's somewhere in between Maul and Dooku, in terms of what type of Sith he was. Dooku was calm, tactical and refined, Maul was a savage. Vader is the personification of pain and a symbol of fear learning to to shut himself off from all of his emotions. As Anakin, he was a very emotional being.
My understanding was that the rule of two was ment as a strategy to defeat the jedi , abandoning it afterwards or having dark side adepts like inquisitorrs made sense, like two senior sith , a master and grand master of the sith like the jedi , ( yoda and windu) an army of dark side knights, obviously not as powerful as the masters makes sense.
The rule of two was invented to stop the infighting amongst the sith. They were always betraying each other trying to claim power.
That’s what Palpatine would have told Dooku, but in reality Darth Bane and all true sith lords following him meant it to be forever, as Darth Bane found that power in the Dark side reaches it’s peak when concentrated within less individuals rather than spread out among multiple dark side users. No true Sith lord would want an army of Sith because that would mean letting go of power which a true sith would never do. Some exceptions are made for low level dark side agents like Asajj or the inquisitors, but they were never true sith who could pull power away from its true masters.
It was created so the sith don't destroy themselves. In the book Darth Bane Path of destruction the Brotherhood of sith were never at full power because of to much infighting.
Actually in Kotor 2 Kriea even says "as all sith do without a strong opponent they turned on each other"
So really the rule of two had nothing to do with defeating the Jedi but rather was a tactical move so the ways of the sith could survive. What Bane did to combat the Jedi was change their ways of fighting. Instead of big battles the scorched planets they would fight from the shadows. That is a big reason why the Jedi fall in the prequels. They thought it would go down how it did 1,000 years prior. So they also thought that winning the clones wars was the best way to defeat the sith and didn't realize until it was to late that they had been caught in a trap. The Sith adapted how they fought with the rule of two being used to keep the sith ways.
While i do love the idea of the inquisitors being used to hunt Jedi, it would stand to reason that they are not true sith which is why non have the title of Darth.
The reason for the rule of two wasn’t simply a revenge tactic. Bane observed that the Sith were just fighting amongst themselves. Killing each other off out of jealousy, greed and lust for power. Bane saw this left the Sith Order vulnerable to the Jedi. Thus: he instituted the rule of two. Because in his mind, the Force was venom, not fire. There should be one master to hold the power, and one apprentice to crave it.
Anyone else gonna comment and paraphrase what was said in the previous comment, cause we do get it by now.
Dooku always strived to be a teacher. He would attempt to teach even if the other was his opponent. he believes he would teach new students. He only wished to do so without the Jedi interference.
He wasn't able to understand palpatine never wanted anything substantial or substitute to Jedi on any level. Palpatine wanted actual control. Not discipline as dooku thought.
I think Dooku would have been a better master for Anakin than Palpatine. Dooku is more like what Anakin thought Palpatine was before he revealed himself, as opposed to being pure evil like Palpatine actually was. Anakin would learn this later but was past the point of no return by then. Whether Anakin is Jedi or Sith, there are two masters who would have been better for Anakin than the masters he got in Obi-Wan and Palpatine. Those are Dooku and Qui Gonn Jinn. Obi-Wan was very good to Anakin but Qui Gonn was a better candidate for being Anakin's master as he would have been the father figure he needed. Also, he was not controlled solely by what the Jedi order said and did. There is no doubt that Qui Gonn was supposed to be and would have been the one to train Anakin, had he not died. I don't believe that Dooku was totally evil, so therefore, I think he would have taught Anakin about the dark side and corrupted him to an extent by encouraging him to use it and turn away from the light, but not to the extent that Palpatine did. I don't think Anakin would have changed so drastically or been manipulated as much. Therefore, he may not have become as unstable. As I've said before, Dooku is like a Jedi who has a different point of view from what the Jedi order has. I think Dooku would have encouraged Anakin to be more controlled in what he does, like the Jedi would. Palpatine encouraged Vader to let the emotions take over because that was how Palpatine was able to manipulate him. I think he also thought that it would increase Anakin's power level faster. That may have been true to an extent but in a way it was blinding. It was too much too fast. Anakin became almost out of control as a result. He needed time to refine his new powers and with such a massive surge in power, he couldn't do that as quickly as perhaps he and the Emperor would have liked. He was overwhelmed with more power than he knew what to do with when he fought Obi-Wan. He couldn't manage his ego, arrogance and that huge surge in power all at once during that battle. He still fought well but he underestimated the opponent and overestimated himself. The power surge only added to his ego and to his arrogance. That is what cost him. He knew he was more powerful and a superior duelist to Obi-Wan but he assumed it would be easy and got frustrated when it wasn't. He seemed to forget that Obi-Wan knows how he fights better than anyone and the importance of being in full control of what you are doing. Obi-Wan was and Anakin wasn't. Obi-Wan was able to out-think Anakin in this duel. To say that Obi-Wan had a clear head going into this might be pushing it a bit but his was clearer than Anakin's and unlike Anakin, he was able to clear it enough to not lose control of the situation. Anakin lost his head and was full of emotion as well as confusion. Obi-Wan was much better at detaching himself from that and being able to control it. Anakin's objective was to kill once the duel started and Obi-Wan's was surviving. Survival instinct is very strong which gave Obi-Wan a much better stategy. It wasn't until both Vader and Palpatine realised the consequences of giving in to emotion for themselves as well as others that they decided to veer away from it. That is another reason why Anakin would have benfited from Qui Gonn or Dooku. Qui Gonn trained Obi-Wan and Dooku trained Qui Gonn. All of them were very good at staying in control of themselves and it was passed down through the teachings. Those teachings were the reason why Obi-Wan survived and won duels against far more powerful and dangerous opponents such as Maul and Anakin/Vader. Anakin may have been more emotionally balanced if he had been taught by Qui Gonn Jinn, like Obi-Wan was. I think he would have still been an aggressive duelist but not as unstable in his personality. I also think that the Jedi should have protected Anakin's mother, particularly with them being worried about Anakin turning to the dark side. They must have been able to anticipate what may happen and how it would affect Anakin. Obi-Wan was like a brother to Anakin but Anakin needed a father and Dooku would have been like a grandfather, but not a totally evil one like Palpatine.
@@Yankeee76 Yes, I think you're right and it would be interesting to see.
Basically Darth Tyrannus fell into the same trap as Darth Plagueis when he was alive. As he believed the Rule of Two had come to an end with him as he would achieve immortality for himself and his apprentice Darth Sidious and rule the galaxy together as equals. That lead Plagueis to his death in his sleep via being tortured by Sidious. Ironically while Dooku wasn't afraid of Anakin, Plagueis was because he knew that he was responsible for Anakin's birth when he tried to create a Force Sensitive being of his own with the Midi-Chlorians. But instead the Force fleed from him and made Shmi Skywalker pregnant with The Chosen One through the Midi-Chlorians. All while Palpatine was on Coruscant working on his political skills so he had no idea that Anakin was a representation of the Force striking back at the Sith.
Yes, Dooku was quite merciful for a Sith, particularly when it came to Anakin. He was almost like a mentor. Dooku then ends up dead. He should never have listened to Palpatine. That was the trap of the dark side for Dooku, Palpatine's betrayal. Dooku got screwed over. He was merciful to someone who became Palpatine's reason to get rid of him. Dooku was intelligent but maybe a bit too self-assured because he got played. That's what the Sith is for people who are not 100% evil. There is no longevity in it unless you're suffering. You can either die at a time when you think you're on top or you think you're on the brink of achieving your primary objective, or you can live to endure the suffering that you bring upon yourself and others. You are haunted by regret and failure for the rest of your life because you go past the point of no return. Once you're so far into it, it's hard to come back. That was Batman's reasoning for why he didn't kill. He wanted to at times and was capable but he would have been going to a dark place that he believed there was no way back from. The trauma of losing his parents stayed with him. He knew that taking a life would stay with him too. Dooku is more like what Sidious presented himself as when he was manipulating Anakin. He's not just some Sith Lord who is totally evil, he is someone not too disimilar from a Jedi but he has a different point of view. He's not darkness personified but he is unafraid of exploring it or using it. This meant turning away from the light, to some extent anyway.
We saw the surprise
And the fear in his eyes
When Anakin took his head without pain
And so then we knew
With the death of Dooku
Lil Ani'd never be the saaaaaame
I can't wait until Tails of The Jedi realeses. It is gonna finally on screen flesh out Dookus back story.
Whats this?
A series of 6 shorts about Dooku and Ashoka coming this fall
It's tales. Not tails.
@@cadeshanley218 no he's right, it's tails. It's about their secret tails. All Jedi are secretly cats.
😂typo lmao
Dooku looked pretty scared to me when Anakin cut his hands off and was kneeling in front of him about to get his head separated from his shoulders.
Dooku was a huge fool for falling for all of Palpatine's lies.
Didn’t Dooku ask obi wan to join him in overthrowing the Sith Lord in episode two ?!? Seems like he did think of betraying sidious with help but at the same time walked the line with the emperor.
And dooku was definitely unique.. he walked both the light and dark path hence no sith eyes .. Jedi we’re corrupt…
Plus at the time dooku could have definitely killed anakin at any point during the clone wars .. Yerp
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Great video! I read about much of this in the novelization of Episode 3.
It's a shame he never head the saying "double the pride double the fall" could have saved his butt
After hearing this, i have lost so much respect for Dooku. In the end, he was just as arrogant and blind as the jedi order he left.
Love your vidsss
He was a tool to get to anakin for a younger body of plagues to clone himself
Remember dooku was not fully nor inherently evil. He was never even close to being fully submerged in the dark. His very morality and honour would never allow it.
I feel like Count Dooku's aspirations where so much more grand as well as dangerous than Sidious and the galaxy is lucky Sidious's plan came to fruition
Love your videos though I'm surprised at your lack of Yuuzahn Vong content. Hope to see some of that one day
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Nice video. I share most the ideas you conveyed. But as you sum it and I think that was both parties major flaw, both Dooku and the Jedi Order, basically everybody but Sidious, underestimated greatly Anakin - which led, in opposite ways, to their fall. Cheers.
Wow. Well... Now that's the second reason why Dooku was and is AWESOME CHARACTER in Star Wars. Nice
I think cause Tyranous wasn’t anything more than a dissenter of the jedis current static and dogmatic rule.
Sidious: I don’t share. To me it’s all or nothing and next to me count your nothing
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Had Palpatine kept Dooku alive, recruited Maul and Oppress back to the fold instead of slaying Savage and defeating Maul, and treated Anakin as a potential alley instead of a symbolic deterrent, and trained the Inquisitors as actual Sith Generals to boot, that would have been the start of one fierce Army. He was the greatest Sith Lord to date, but had his paranoia was a flaw that cost him.
What if they all turn on him at once? Even as powerful as Palpatine, he wouldn't survive that. That's too risky for his new empire.
Alley?
Then Savage would be enraged that Dooku treated him as shit. Dooku would want Maul's head for killing Qui-gon. Anakin would want revenge on Dooku for taking his arm. The Inquisitors would be plotting against the others because they would dislike to be second grade sith. And of course, all of them would start to question one day why they follow this asshole on the top. If Anakin and Dooku would team up for example, they would beat the shit out of Sidious.
There is a reason why the rule of two was created. In legends, in the Old Republic era for example, the sith were just as busy killing each other during wars as they were to kill jedi. They did not think of themsleves as a part of some grand order, all of them had visions, goals and schemes, and they were willing to put their Empire behind these goals in priority. The rule of two simplified the playing field. Thougth it is amazing that they somehow did not die out with just two of them existing- a simple ship crash would have ended their grand plan.
Fun video as always but kind of nonsense that dooku would know that Anakin was being prepared to be his replacement, maybe as a challenge he could've accepted that, but thinking that both could cohexist is nonsense.. only 2 sith could exist simultaneously in theory, that's why Palpatine oredered him to get rid of Ventress.. so he knew an army of sith was never going to exist, keep rocking and stay safe
I always liked Count dooku,s lightsaber from Star wars it looks curved and very thin similar to a Rapier sword from the 16th centuries⚔⚔.
What song is that playing at the end of the video?
If anything he was a fool for trusting sidious and not fearing being replaced
Dooku is an idiot.
I'll never, ever understand why so many people in the SW universe think it's a good idea to trust Palpatine.
He's one of the most obviously evil characters ever even before he becomes Emperor.
That just shows how much of a mastermind and manipulative person palpatine was. That doesn’t make Dooku an idiot it makes him a victim. The entire jedi order were fooled by this man. Hell the entire galaxy was fooled by this man. Truely a mastermind of evil
His "wife" Zulima couldn't even remember the date of the day she married him. Her reasoning for committing contempt was she wanted to hear what Brandon was saying due to the upcoming custody hearing. I shudder to think what would have happened to her kids that were rated dark if Brandon had died. And interesting enough, one of the kids rated dark was one that had been particularly close to JJ. If Melanie skips away scot free it will just be an example of the gross negligence on behalf of law enforcement,who if not for Kay looking for JJ, would not have gotten any justice for Tammy.
I feel like dooku would train sith with both the light and dark side of the force
Or if we just go by what is portrayed in the movie, thrice the pride tripple the fall might have been at work. Also, he had been instrumental to Sidious´ work for 13 years, there was no way he could tell when the backstab would come. Or if it would come at all. At the time of his death he rather saw himself as Sidious´ equal, it was only at the final moment that he realized how wrong he had been. I´m really glad that Christopher Lee convinced George that Dooku shouldn´t plead for mercy, it wouldn´t have fitted neither his voice nor the character. I don´t think it fits any sith, not Maul either, even though his brother had just been slain and he was being tortured. Lee´s expression tells us all we need to know, Dooku was simply so shocked by the treachery of Sidious that he couldn´t find any words.
Dooku didn’t know he just a tool to get to Darth king lord plagues son ….plagues in the end wanted a younger body of himself to transfer his soul to his younger body plagues lives dooku just enforced a tool of plagues plan to live forever only few have king live king plagues
Plagues always wanted anakin his son in the end to rule his kingdom king plagues lives
Dooku did not underestimate Anakin Skywalker" The Order knew Anakin is The Chosen One to bring balance to The Force "inspired" by his instinctive grasp of The Force In Motion.
This also inspired Count Dooku.
Such that Dooku knew" that even his former master had to meditate to focus on The Force In Motion.
Anakin Skywalker is" The Force In Motion.
But" this is not clear to Yoda, -however Yoda reasoned" that an instinctive grasp of The Force In Motion is paramount to fulfilling The Prophecy.
Not discounting all they have witnessed-
"The Order agreed with The Grand Master".
Dooku had watched Anakin" just as The Order did.
But" Dooku did so -as a dignitary of Chancellor Palpatine's administration.
After all" -he is The Count. 🌈🤓
This line of thought would also explain why Dooku tried to turn Obi Wan on Geonosis during attack of the clones.
Dooku forgot to read the Sith manual.
The sith Triumvirate. Sid couldve used House Corinnos wealth for sure
I actually think duku would have made a better sith lord for the empire. His control iand manipulation was far better than Darth Vader
Lol no it wasn’t. By the time Vader hit his prime he was unmatched by anyone, including Sidious. Sidious might have had more knowledge but Vader honed his powers. Only difference between Vader and Dooku was Dooku was more charismatic.
He really should've seen it coming
Have you heard the Tragedy of Darth Tyranus the Foolish?
Make this a what if they made a superior order dooku anakin and palpatine
Dooku thought that he was "indispensable". But I have a quote that often runs through my head, when I get full of myself. "Indispensable people. Cemeteries are full of them."
Palpatine likely studied Dooku well, and knew how subtle and indirect was necessary to manipulate him, so it makes sense.
What if Dooku killed Anakin who would been be second choice for Darth Sidious Apprentice
Dooku was dumb af
You could almost forgive Dooku's ignorance, but Vader should have known better. Yet he was still caught flat footed when he himself was on the same receiving end.
Your overconfidence is your weakness
I wouldn't be surprised some dark lords of the sith actually fled went into permanent exile when they felt their apprentice was getting strong enough to over throw them.
Dooku believed in the prophecy as did every other Sith and Jedi in the know hell even palpatine himself believed
So, then why did things play out the way they did? We can wonder forever how much foreknowledge Sidious had; whether he knew Vader would come back from Mustafar less than he had been; broken and weakened, but both Legends and Canon Palpatine have demonstrated a certain willingness to bend, or outright ignore, even the rules of the Sith. In this way, Dooku still could have been useful, yet Palpatine had him get killed. I do understand it; he wanted to push Anakin into doing wrong, so that later he'd think about it when Windu was planning to do the same to Sidious, but Dooku could have been useful, and Palpatine did need more servants than just Vader...especially after Vader became different. Sure, hindsight is 20/20, bur I bet he wished he still had Dooku on hand when Vader was reduced, and they could no longer (for some reason) form a dyad. Oh well.
I mean who can ever really say they know what sidious was planning? No one can know that for sure, not even dooku
I still want to see prime Google versus prime Anakin Skywalker in his twenties before he became Vader his biggest potential was right there cuz we already know if Anakin got to his full potential you ain't stopping him
If Palpatine was as good at reining in his own pride as he was good at exploiting others, he'd have truly been unstoppable
Basically.... Congratulations.... You played yourself, Count Dooku....
Ok so why was dooku ready to kill anakin on geonosis with kenobi and amadala if he was trying to keep anankin alive?
Dooku is that coworker who thinks he has such great ideas and is irreplaceable so his ego dies when he learns the truth.
Oh Tyrannus…that is why you failed
Dooku beat anakin before so pride clouded dooku's mind
What if Anakin asked Dooku to teach him?
Then Anakin would never have ended up in that suit and his wife would have survived.
Count dooku has always been a powerful sith similar to Darth vader expect he has force lighting and a curved Lightsaber rare for some siths🗡🗡.
Seeing Count dooku as badass Villain he uses force lighting alot every time he fights an enemy similar to Palpatine instead of force choking people like Darth vader does🐈⬛🐈⬛.
Dookus biggest mistake was thinking the word *equal* existed in the sith language 🤦🏻
One word...Hubris
Dooku was right in one regard there were multiple dark siders. The inquisitors
Dooku diluted himself in which is what ultimately cost him his life.
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I think Dooku was an absolute fool if he thought like that. As a Jedi he should have a strong reason not to trust the Sith, and yet he got absolutely played.
What if the god of mortis trained anakin skywalker
If you only knew the power of the dark side
Lol anyone that believed a single word that Sidious said was a fool
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I don’t think I’d call dooku “one of the most powerful dark siders ever”. That’s a pretty difficult list to make right? Certainly an incredible duelist tho.
The ancient Sith probably already loved Dooku
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Nah the rule of 2 stands.. Palpatine knew and dooku should have known. The paranoia Sideous had was a tell all. Dooku and anakin would have usurped him.
I assumed Dooku would have wanted Anakin to become his apprentice and overthrow Sidious. I don’t believe Dooku ever respected Sidious. There were times where he bested Anankin and could have easily killed him. Anakin is much stronger in the force but Dooku was far more skilled dualist & thought things through. Anakin was brash & hot tempered & never thought things through as much as he should where Darth Vader was the complete opposite. Vader was always 10 steps ahead of his Adversaries, hell he probably could eventually overthrown Sidious he was so calculated in every move he made. Dooku’s arrogance got the best of him.
Deep down..everyone believes they're 'the chosen one'.... it's human egocentrism 🤷🏻♂️
What if Dooku died during the Battle of Geonosis?
Movie would've sucked bantha balls, Christopher Lee is so badass and OG
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Dooku was a badass but not even close to being one if the most powerful Sith he wasn't even in the top 15 Sith lords. he was a epic dualist but he couldn't stand for to toe with the dark Lord of the old republic. Darth revan, Darth sion and Darth magus just to name a few would have made dooku there bitch but maybe I miss years what you said
I always took it as someone who had dozens of years of more experience looking down at a young up-start, basically a very rube boomer looking down at a millennial or Gen Z-er because they haven't seen what he's seen and considers them a weaker generation. But in the end, it's the younger generations that proved to be stronger; not by iron and blood, but by activism and the will to change things for the better.
Take this however you like; good, bad, whatever, I'm curious about what ya'll have to say about this mess of a comment I made.
Would Dooku’s Galactic Empire be full of battle droids?
He hated droids and like the other responder said he wanted to create a Sith army and a new sith order
Plagueis would have been a better master to Dooku than Palpatine.
Imagine if Dooku got away at the last min at the beginning of Episode 1. The story could be that Sidious goes ahead with turning Anakin into his apprentice as Darth Vader and unleashes Order 66, but Dooku returns with Darth Maul (still upset with Sidious killing his brother) as his new Apprentice. The 2 of them would combat Sidious and Anakin (who in this version wouldn't get injured or deformed after fighting Yoda and Obi-Wan), for the right to rule the new empire!
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I would prefer fewer videos, a lot fewer actually ... im sorry to say I have stopped following. :(