Beaten with a whip Part 2 - Alfie in single
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- čas přidán 28. 12. 2013
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Alfie (the horse who was afraid of whips) in single after 4 weeks reschooling. We show him going on a slack rein in a rubber bit, walking trotting and cantering to show he will not run away. We also use the whip beside him to show his reaction to it now, and show that you can use the whip on him while being driven and that he will not run away or rear/kick. Alfie's initial video can be seen here: • Beaten with a whip? Re...
We believe it is important to show that horses who have had a bad start or an incident which has caused them to run away or become frightened of something can be reschooled to drive again. It is a common myth that horses who have bolted will not be able to be driven safely again; we show that it is possible as long as you have the confidence and the skills to retrain the horse.
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Barry’s videos are the BEST of any of the training videos I’ve watched because you can really get the sense of timing - what and how Barry responds to the horse and how the horse responds to him. It’s like actually being in the driver’s seat instead of trying to figure out what the trainer is doing. Thank you.
Its lovely to see alfie doing so well responding to your common sense patience and care , but the majority of motorists have no common sense driving past at high speed
What an improvement. He's not frightened any more. ❤️
Great little pony, he has beautiful action. he would be a beautiful show pony. Its a shame someone was mean to him. I enjoy watching your videos and the horses you work with. You do a great service for horse that should never be in bad situations like the pony. Great job.........
I hope some day to be even half the horseman you are, sir.
He's doing alot better.
Fantastic work as always. You are a saver of ponies for sure Barry. I really wish I could come spend some time with you and watch the master at work through the stages.
I really love how you talk to him, it's lovely to see you 2 working together so well
He is a very elegant horse.... I do wish horses weren't traded so often though.. continuity of care is very underrated these days.
He looks so much better than before
Love that you slowed it down when the road said slow.
Very nice and gentle training. Thank-You for video taping. I enjoy watching your video's. I have trained my 2 little ponies also with a rubber bit, refuse to use the iron. Love from Canada
the voice commands are amazing.. thx Barry..
Had my doubts about this one; glad to say I underestimated him.
BRILLIANT work he has come on well , his a lovely fellow ...
I do not know much about horses, but I know a lot about engineering and machines. Judging this horse by his rhythm in sound and his harmony in the body and head movements, well he is a happy horse and has found a belonging feeling in his carer. In engineering there are activities which are related to the rate of change of an action as how birds and planes fly and drag on a moving object. This horse when it comes to motion it is clear that not only he puts any part of his body in a particular position, but it is interesting in how he puts it there in the nature of velocities and the acceleration he uses. There are no fast transients which may indicate that the horse is nervous nor heavy accelerations to indicate that the horse is scared and worried. His motion is so musical which means ( as any of my engines) that the horse is at peace with itself and has security and a belonging feeling knowing that nothing around him is cruel but kind.
I am watching at 5:08 where the driver just said " Good Boy" . Congratulations to this teacher, if only all the teachers in our schools had the same patience as he has and I assure many that there will be no delinquents . Congratulations once again, you seem to understand and care for that horse as I understand and care for all my heavy and light engines, which seems to last longer while in my care and the Morris Marina and Morris 1000 are still running after 50 and 60 years since I bought them, even ship's engines give a better service when I tune them such that the captains cannot "hurt" them, and all because like this gentleman driving this horse, there are people who care about oozing poetry in motion, any motion.
Enjoyed reading this lovely expression of your thoughts - thank you for taking the time to comment!
As a horsewoman for over 70 years, the daughter of an engineer, mother of three engineers, and a retired maths teacher, I just love this post.
I once attended a Bill Strang lecture. The famous Concorde design engineer told his audience that if something looks and sounds right, it's engineering properties are right. I often thought this applies to horses, now you've confirmed it.
Catrin Roberts, Madam, It is late and very past midnight , but I have some time on my hands so please permit me to establish my thoughts as I read your comment and had another look at this video admiring the steady gait of this horse and how gentle his handler held those reins.
If I had to boil it all to one word, I would say that it is all about SENSITIVITY. My experience throughout my life , including 60 years ago dancing every Saturday at the Odeon in Gillingham, well it seems that not every person is sensitive to all that is projected by other people and other creatures. Long ago, I noticed the manners of many people including their social ethics in a dance hall, they were not as sensitive as they should have been even in the manner a young woman replies to the offer of a young man asking her for a dance. I shall not go deep into this subject but I would say that if we were all sensitive to our own pain and then project it to recognise the pain of others, we would be able to form better social ethics and a social harmony including the pain horses feel and suffer in competitive racing or any occasion in a horse's life.
The contents of your comments clearly shows that you are a very sensitive woman and may I also include the man handling the horse in this video. May I congratulate you that though you may have never defined your caring for others as being due to the development of a high sensitivity factor to other people' s pain including other living creatures and how you care for respecting other non living assets. I believe it is the development of our sensitivity that makes us all reach a higher appreciation of all that is around us and this goes to include what performers in singing and music can produce. I do admire Elina Garanca and Katica Illenyi for their great performances and I allocate all their success due to their sensitivity of the musical notes to be projected, before they actually do it.
Related to this sensitivity factor, all throughout my long life I always preferred to refer to a mature male and female persons as " A man and A woman" for I feel the other ceremonial sound " A lady, A Gentleman" does not seem contain all the higher sensitivities and attributes and mental substance of "a woman, a man ", which seems to tacitly include parenthood with all its higher sensitivities that is not included and not so apparent in the ceremonial sound ," A lady" Judging from your comment I feel that you never needed to read my comment on horses to confirm what you felt on this equestrian related area. Your first sentence clearly indicates that your sensitivity to your family is of the higher order and all I can offer are my distant congratulations as I offered the man in this video. He too is a person of the highest sensitivity towards anything he handles.
Incidentally, in addition to " if something looks and sounds right, then it is well engineered." I have concluded on the mathematical requirements of a geometrical curve forming any item around us including architecture , dresses, cars, shapes of men and women , uniforms, planes etc etc, to create and project the feeling which create the effect of monotony, excitement , gentleness, aggression. That is the power of sensitivity in knowing what is included in all curves!! Good night or very early morning.
He's doing so much better!
I had a cart pony that kept wanting to look all the way around when he had blinders. He'd rubber neck all the way around so he could see me. I took the darn things off and all was well. He wasn't a spooker anyway.
Awesome work.
I found it ooooo my he is so awesome. Your the greatest. Thank you so much for your videos
Well done Alfie !! Barry , you're wonderful ! ;-)
Great job!
WOW! What a great change.
Beautiful little guy, fun to watch him. Just pitty his fear matters.
Looks like you saved another one, Barry. Good on you! Is Alfie fixed, or is he still getting over it and likely to revert back to how he was before under pressure or in the wrong hands? Thank you for sharing with us, and spreading your ideas, a blessing to the horse world.
Alfie was actually sold by his owner straight from our yard after being with us for 5 weeks (a week after this film was made). We did as much as we could with him in the time - as you can see by this video he left here being driven as a single perfectly happily, even when the whip was used. He has now gone to his new home in Hampshire and is currently being broken to ride as his movement lends him to the dressage arena - the intention was always to have him as a ride and drive horse. If we can give everyone an update on how he's doing in the future we will do so as there's been a lot of interest in his story!
@@barryhook2 what horse breed is that?
Aahh...he's going so much better! Excellent
wow what a difference from when he was being driven with Roly! Will you try driving him in a pair again?
His owner wants him to be driven as single, so at this stage we will now focus on his single work rather than putting him back alongside Roly. However, if she wanted to know that he was now safe to drive as a pair as well as a single, then we would put him back alongside him. Alfie has improved with the whip, so he will be better in a pair anyway compared to how he was in the first video, and at this stage he was also a lot more settled in himself in general i.e. in the stable etc, so putting him back in a pair shouldn't be an issue. It is again down to time and finances; it might take more time (i.e. another week) to put him back in a pair after getting him in single and establishing his single work properly, so it depends whether the owner wants to pay to have him here and have us do that with him.
Barry I love the videos Lhave a pony who was driven by amish kids to school theymust of ran him to school and same home Hard mouthed and then when i do head back to barn he wants to run I could use help Thanks
Hi Barry, how much work did you do whip cracking on the ground with this horse?
He seems to be better alone, but it may be that he is further along in his training. Do you know what happened to Alfie in the long-term? I see he was being broken to ride.
Hi barry,We have watched your video of Alfie,We will try Albert in a rubber bit,See how we get on with that,
Hello, at what age do you recommend starting training to be able to pull a cart? As in getting used to all of the harnesses and such? Thank you in advance.
Jessica Trifonov Hi Jessica, we don't start breaking them to drive until they are 3 years old, and even then some horses need breaking lightly and turning away until they are 4, as this video shows: czcams.com/video/paqor_n5bQ8/video.html However there is lots you can do with a youngster to handle them and teach them manners on the ground, as shown in this video: czcams.com/video/nX4C7NI2r3s/video.html
Do you let some of the little kids in the town hitch a sneaky pleasure ride lol :)
Isn't cantering on the road meant to damage tendons in the legs?
When you are trotting long distances do you change diagonals to avoid one sidedness? and if so how do you cue for the change?
Grace Wright Trotting diagonals are just a tool used when the horse is being ridden for whether the rider is rising (posting trot) with either the right or left shoulder. When riding this helps give flow to the cues to the horse because you have better control of the hind legs. A horse is always "changing trotting diagonals" because they legs move in diagonal pairs when trotting, left hind/right front then right hind/left front. I believe you may be thinking of cantering and/or galloping leads.
No, actually the Calvary used to change diagonals periodically. I think they had a rotation of walk, trot, canter, walk, trot, canter and changing diagonals would help the horses with fatigue.
I am now old enough that I do not care to ride trotting horses. Paso Finos are now my chosen mount. But I have a Arab App / Morgan cross mare that I would like to drive. So I wonder about diagonals in harness...to avoid fatigue. I am wondering what cues might be meaningful to the horse.
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