Suspicious Saints | Two Of These People Are Lying 3x02
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2020
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Gary Brannan: / garybrannan
and Chris Joel, who doesn't do this social media nonsense
Edited by Elliot Gough
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I expect a lot of "HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT" comments for this one. -- Tom
Well it would be a pretty boring show if you knew all of the topics
I mean, Gary was *clearly* bullshitting about the *Mosquito* WW2 Bomber! How can you not know this, you... Person without a deep interest in British WW2 Aircraft!
Well it's not the Hagia Sophia
More citation needed
@@diestormlie The Wellington was covered in linen. The Mosquito was made of wood.
Tom one of these episodes should put a phrase of his own picking, so all three have to bullshit and he can just secretly watch em make up stuff
This would be good
Needs to be done.
Definitely.
Brilliant idea!
Yes!
Parashooting from in front of a propeller is probably the fastest way to go from normal to paranormal while leaving an air craft.
And the word "parashooting" made me think of someone with a mobility aid launching themselves out of the plane while firing an air pistol.
Matt inadvertently got something slightly right with his lie. The reasoning he gave for the name paranormal was because the team rose from the remains of another team, to my knowledge this hasn't happened itself but wellington do have a team called the wellington phoenix
Phoenix as in "rise from the ashes"
Also AustroL (not Austol) in a Austria lubricant manufacturer.
rising from the ashes of the previous professional football team in NZ, the New Zealand Knights (based in Auckland). Basically got the whole story right, just the name and minor details wrong.
This happened in Brazil if I'm not mistaken.
An airplane with most of the Chapecoense football team crashed, killing most of both the players and technical team.
The team was brought back by other teams leasing players so they could play the matches and eventually they've managed to rebuild the team.
Idk if it was inadvertently. He probably knew but swapped the names
Chris Joel: the only person in the world for whom giving key details means that he's lying.
It's very much the opposite. Stories being a little too detailed is often a sign of fabrication.
@@ze_rubenator
"Stories being a little too detailed is often a sign of fabrication."
"giving key details means that he's lying"
To me they sound the same, not opposite.
@@blindleader42 I think it is the "the only person in the world for whom" part that is opposite, since it implies that the normal status que is that the more detailed the statement is, the more trustworthy it is.
@@blindleader42 It is the opposite if you include the whole sentence.
@@ze_rubenator No. It's a slight exaggeration. For most (not quite all besides Chris) giving details does not necessarily mean they're lying. The statement is that it does mean that for Chris.
Once again, Tom forgets that *nobody is supposed to be convincing him that they're lying*
But maybe that should be part of the format?
They sorta do anyway, even if they're not supposed to. It also deprives Tom of his points, so not a sensible tactic, but a viable strategy in a way. Well, if points did matter anyway
Tell that to Gary Brannan. He's clearly having fun doing that.
Yeah, I’d love to see that level of sneakiness incentivised. Perhaps have the person with the real answer get the point if they’re *not* picked?
I love how tom spends the entire game basically reciting the rules but somehow both him and Gary seem to forget this😭😭
As a kiwi who avidly watches Wellington Paranormal I nearly flipped when it came up. It's an amazing show. It doesn't just star Taika Waititi and Germaine Clement, they're actually the directors and writers
Such a great show. I was surprised that appeared on this should I thought it was quite well known.
@@iamarchibald yeah, genuinely a surprise. I suppose not everyone is into fairly niche mockumentary Kiwi comedies
@@ogrcnz2361 there's a season 4!
I like how none of the answers offered are about France... yet the wheel STILL SPINS and STILL lands on France...
It is not a wheel! We talked about this, it's just a fixed arrow pointing at it.
Hirosjimma no it is a wheel, its just 100% france
It's landed on Australia plenty of times, as Tom acknowledges!
90% France, 10% Australia
I’m currently going through every episode of the Technical Difficulties after Citation Needed S1E1 and counting how many times they make jokes about a country (not each joke obviously because the wheel would decide the country or place for the episode).
"Do we care about points?" Well, Tom. This is British panel show... Therefore - NO
I mean, the game is clearly (like WILTY) to confuse Tom.
Numberwang!
What do points mean?
I’ll prepare Matt’s opening line for the next series:
- “My lies are up here, thank you!”
That’s it - you’ll have to hire me for the other three.
nice pfp
A popping show where you can win either vermin or food.
Tonights mice with lice or ice with rice suprise; the franchise on the rise
@@catcat4697 that's genuinely brilliant
@@Marianopiano thanks, I really needed that
I surprised by:
A) the fact you have a full size ice cream machine in your kitchen
B) god damn dory plush
CZcams.com/WillItSoftServe -Matt
@@mattandtom “Self-promoting ****.”
The Dory in the background keeps staring into my soul.
As well as the pillow with someone's face🤣
The ice cream machine is staring into my belly.
*Along with the blue bunny ears North of Chris' shoulders?*
To me, one of the funniest things about “Wellington Paranormal” is that I’m a kiwi - I’ve seen this show on TV while eating my dinner! All these boys having to come up with some bull on the spot, while I’m losing my mind at what they’re coming up with because to me, I immediately recognise it!
Taika Waititi and Jemaine Clement are NOT in it though, even though it is a spin off of What We Do In The Shadows, so three of these people are lying!
It seems like Chris just misread the info box or intro paragraph on Wikipedia, as they're the executive producers of the show
I think they were both at least an episode each as well, Jemaine Clement has definitely, I don't if recall Taika Waititi has or not (I'll have to rewatch, clearly) Though I'd imagine you probably know this by now 🙂
Also, not a kiwi but Sky broadcast it briefly over here in the UK
Unless he genuinely thought those people were in the show. Then it's not a lie at all.
Same
Don’t they direct it?
Tom was looking for the word canonized. Beatification is a lower level, a beatified person could be venerated but s/he isn't a full saint.
I think you're looking for the word they
It's been a while, but somehow after "this is the technical difficulties, we're playing..." I still expect Tom to say "Citation needeed." This format is great too, though. You guys are awesome.
This format is great because it's tried and tested. It's basically Call My Bluff but with Wikipedia article titles instead of words.
@@rosiefay7283 It is quite a common idea (in my family, we used to play what we called the "dictionnary game", which was basically the same thing with a dictionnary instead of wikipedia).
Still brilliant. "It's LITERALLY my job!" was a fun delivery.
8:00 Tom writes down "Matt giggles uncontrollably."
To be fair to Gary, Cornwall and Brittany are considered two of the six Celtic nations, alongside Ireland, Wales, Scotland and the Isle of Man.
What about Galicia?
@@qwertyTRiG If you include Galicia, then you should also include Portugal and Asturias.
I want them to have a round where all of them are lying. And Tom doesn’t know when that round is and if he can sus out all of them are lying he gets a point.
If he doesn't know that's a possibility, he'll select the person he finds the most believable just because that's the way the game is. They should tell him that all 3 of them *may* be lying, but not necessarily.
It would be like the Hagia Sofia question last season where Chris was sort of telling the truth.
a great idea would tom putting an article of his own in there and faking it for a round
There should be four cards in there, the topic of one of which is pulled at random from Wikipedia. I'm not sure how they'd make sure no one knows which one that is since if any of them knew, they could look up the definition. But maybe that could be solved somehow.
There should be a fourth, randomly chosen article in the pile so that nobody knows when everybody is lying
10:10 The word you're looking for is "canonized". Beatification is the previous step in which you declare a person as "blessed"
Or "Venerable"!
Not to be confused with "cannonized" which is being shot out of a cannon.
@@ZefulStarson The Simpsons did that joke in one historical episode with Henry VIII
Even more technically, canonization doesn’t cause someone to become a saint; it recognizes that ey has already become a saint.
@@NotHPotter Venerable is the step before Beatification and the last step that doesn't require a miracle.
"Do we care about not having an outro?" "Still no"
And yet, some version of that has become your outro for this series. :)
Ah yes, the Outro Paradox™!
Matt has the consistent tell where he handwaves the article as having been boring, and says "the only important part I could think of was uhhh ummm ahhh" as time to come up with something
The fun thing is, he does that no matter whether it was his pick or not.
As an Australian, I would like to clear up some terminology:
An Ugg Boot is a shapeless fur lined boot that is used a a slightly more acceptable version of a full foot slipper.
The Australian version of a Wellington Bomber would be a Gummie Bomber after the Gumboots or “Gummies” (we like to abreviate and add -ie)
“They have people to do that for them.”
It’s a shame they didn’t react to that more.
I like your profile pic
@@Alexandra-ip2by Danke.
The Cornish Saint was St Piran and he washed up having floated from Ireland on a millstone hence the subsequent beatification. It's actually his holy day on the day of posting. Gool Perran Lowen!
I actually think he was talking about St Senara who was falsely accused of adultery and thrown out to sea in a barrel. the reason I think it's Senara is because Senara was from Brittany and he mentioned the saint having a french connection
Whenever the camera is on Tom or Chris, I can't help but notice Dory psychoanalyzing me to the highest degree
The word "Paranormal" did give away Gary's lie, however that was really clever, since the Wellington bomber is a real plane, and from a quick google search it does seem like you could drop paratroopers from it. So what he was describing was perfectly plausible, although the word didn't really fit.
You can see the soft serve ice cream machine that Matt bought in the background!
Is that what that was? I wasn't sure if it was an ice cream machine, an espresso machine, or an ice machine.
CZcams.com/WillItSoftServe -Matt
"...similarities between Cornwall and France."
Just hit me: St Michael's Mount and Mont St Michel.
Both monasteries built on tiny spits of land right off their respective coasts.
Both connected to the mainland by low causeways that can be walked at low tide but can only be reached by boat at high tide.
Both even look disturbingly similar.
Brittany was actually settled by Cornwall Celts during the Dark Ages, it's why people in the region speak a Celtic tongue related to those of Cornwall and Wales to this day
There’s even a region of Brittany called “Cornouaille”, which is indeed cognate with Cornwall.
Gary is kinda right about a connection between Cornwall and Brittany. During the Anglo-Saxon invasions, a lot of Britons fled/migrated to Brittany; including notable Welsh saints Gildas, Méen, and well, Austol. There are also a lot of similar place names such as Cornouaille/Cornwall and Domnonée/Devon.
Brittany is also referred to as Britannia Minor or Little Britain (which is why the island is called *Great* Britain)
And they absolutely do fish in the same water, too.
Cornish and Breton are both Celtic languages too.
@@WontonTV Cornish and Breton are actually the most closely related of the Celtic languages, so you get a point for that 👏👏
To me, a French guy, Brannan shouting "L'oignon" is bloody hilarious.
IIRC, Cornwall does have a connection to northern France (specifically Brittany) because they’re both Celtic
Yep. The Cornish and Breton languages are very similar, and both are fairly similar to Welsh also. They all have the same anthem too, although admittedly the other two did nick it off Wales...
Plus a similar climate. A sufficiently rainy France is indistinguishable from a sufficiently sunny UK.
There's even a region of Brittany called Cornouaille, deriving from the same etymology as Cornwall
they also both have a St Michael's Mount (Mont-Saint-Michel)
I dunno, that seems pretty corny.
After these last two episodes, I really, really want to see one where all 3 cards are actually written by Tom (and only Tom knows this), and all 3 of them have to lie.
Gary’s Cornwall and France comments were funny and interesting to me, because Brittany/Bretagne/Breizh/Bertaèyn (in various languages of the region and English) is a region of France sticking out of the north-western part of the country, not actually that far from Cornwall, in which one of the regional languages that they speak (Breton) is related to Cornish! Cornish (or Kernewek/Kernowek) is a Brittonic language related to the Southwest Brittonic languages that are/have been spoken in modern-day South West England, Wales, and Brittany. The name ‘Breton’ is related etymologically to the name ‘Britain’, as you might now suppose. So Cornwall and Brittany are actually culturally very close in a way, in that they share a common (somewhat distant) heritage, (somewhat) ancient culture/set of cultures, and language family - it’s a really interesting rabbit hole of information to fall down, if you’ve ever got a minute! (Someone further down in the comments posted some of the historical context as to why this is the case, and as they say, it has to do with Britons from Wales/the Cornwall area and thereabouts moving down to the area and founding Brittany, under the legendary figure Conan Meriadoc.)
*Sees title*
Me, a theology graduate: this will be interesting.
me too...but your school must have been better than mine. sad to say that hagiology is no part of curriculum; had to specialize on church history (but still proud MTh) and even so. Acta Sanctorum is sooo fascinating read, isn't it? :)
@@p1rgit I have to say neither did mine (Uni. of Helsinki). I also majored in Church History, but have found anything theology-related to be interesting.
Matt’s laugh is very contagious. When he starts laughing hard, I start laughing about nothing except him laughing.
"Gary was extremely good at Not convincing me, which wasn't meant to be the game" - Well than Tom, why did you go for the guy who literally said it wasn't him, if that is exactly the opposite of what you're supposed to do.
He thought it was a bluff.
@@ZNotFound yes, which, as my previous point states, is not the aim of the game. You're supposed to make him think it's your article whether or not it is, not make him think it isn't when it is yours.
The why is as pointless as asking why. Its a bit of light entertainment!
I've watched this 3 times now; I've only just registered that Tom said 'Patron Saint of the Channel Tunnel'
That was an amazing line, kudos
Matt: It isnt my article
Tom: Are you trying to fourth dimensional chess me?
Lmaooo
Matt was really playing one dimensional checkers and he WON
I flew in a very light plane to Wellington NZ once. The pilot had me help him pull the plane out of the hangar (a large garage) and then before take off he asked me to "shut the door" of the plane. I love my country. The plane's name was Zog.
As a new zealander this is bloody hilarious, good pick!
He totally could've saved the "Cornwall is similar to France" thing by saying it's because the people of Brittany (across the channel from cornwall) are from celtic Britain. Such a missed opportunity.
Edit: Wait he wasn't lying.
Brittany and Cornwall actually have a related cultural background, not just from being nearby and having fishing communities, but because of emigration back in the medieval era. There was also a little Briton colony in spain, but I don't know if anything is left of that.
I enjoy the Dory plushy, high as a kite in the background
Matt´s right; You should switch up interrogator and contestants. That´d bring even more dynamic into it. Plenty of fun already, but ideally you´d cycle in a new questioner every game (2 rounds).
11:19 I keep replaying the “it’s got fuckin fish in it!” over and over
I love how Tom basically never believes Gary. One of these days Tom must believe him
Yes, I know that he has guessed Gary a few times, but not as much as the other two.
Finally! The one time when I knew what the answer was, as soon as the article name was announced! 😃
Although admittedly, growing up in Wellington may have been an advantage... 😂
It’s not a wheel! It’s a piece of cardboard with an arrow that says “France”!!
épinards & caramel its just a wheel with all the spots saying France, except for one that says Australia
@@dan5827 They switch out what that last spot says every so often; I'd say it's due for another change soon.
It has France on one side and Australia on the other.
Gary’s intro line is the most obscure Terry Jones tribute I’ve ever heard. Well played, sir. Well played.
That was the most chaotic and obvious second round ever 😂
EDIT: WAIT IT WAS GARY?
Not gonna lie, sometimes when those true accents kick in I have to turn on English captions
9:12 It's an ear of corn. That's the phrase Matt was looking for
You have NO idea how excited I am to wake up to new episodes of anything involving The Technical Difficulties. You four are my favorite people on the planet.
7:50 I wonder if there's a button that needs pushing to reset Matt whenever he gets caught in 'the loop'
I just noticed that you can see Matt’s soft serve machine in the background. Oh ‘Will it Soft Serve’ how I miss you
Chris' beard is a work of art. He definitely should keep it growing even longer.
Gary you stitched up tom nicely with that last cornwall subject
I've got to admit, I'm more fond of the "the points don't matter" gameplay, because I'm just here to have fun listening to you bullshit each other. It's also a great way to learn trivia, since most of the topics that come up, I've never heard of before (such as the ones in this episode).
Can I just say I'm loving that this game has turned into Two of These People are Telling the Wrong Truth.
so grateful for the clear subtitling
I LOOOVE this series, the best of the technical difficulties IMO. Keep them coming!
Marius Arntsen Cobrastan is not a real country
@@mysigt_ you sure about that? Check again
Ok, I wasn't entirely sold on the format so far, but this time had me laughing my arse off.
Saints are canonized. Beatification is the step before that and warrants the title "Venerable".
Yes!
The problem with the idea that Matt did the laughing fit to throw Tom off the scent of the real one is that Matt stands to gain nothing from doing so. The rule system is a player gets a point if Tom picks their true answer. There are no points for tricking Tom.
I do personally think the point system should be
Tom gets 1 point when he correctly identifies the truth.
Players that are lying get 1 point when they successfully trick Tom (he picks their answer as true).
But those arn't the rules so Matt gains nothing by trying to throw Tom off.
Ah, yes, but he gets the satisfaction of Tom being wrong, which has been stated to be the real reason they're playing. :P
Which is why they say the don't care about points.
Also, Tom should get a bonus point if he recognizes the topic and starts telling the players facts about it.
3:00 And the wheel spins and lands on Australia again. Gumboot throwing or Wellie Whanging is a common competition at country shows or school fetes, so the aussie gumboot bomber is a Wellie-Whanger.
Wellington Paranormal sounds like a googlewhack. Oh, hey, remember when googlewhacks were a thing? Man, I'm old.
@@IzzyHopps probably still has the tattoo
Switch the host for next episode? I want to see tom making stuff up.
*Next series... These are filmed way in advance, this one was probably filmed back in November
I think they said at one point that they tried it that way and it didn't work because Tom was just really, really bad at it.
Could be wrong though.
@@VenseyNess I'd like to see the attempts.
I really love these videos! Whenever the four of you get together to make something, it is pure magic.
This eoisode was just what I needed now, after a stressful day at work, so thank you to all of you for all of the fun! 😁
Big whiff and a miss on the opportunity to say CANONIZATION, and make artillery jokes about saints
YES! Another episode, already looking forward to the next one.
Toms hair gets whiter every day
All of them get whiter every day
It's the lighting
ᴵᵗ'ˢ ⁿᵒᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ˡᶦᵍʰᵗᶦⁿᵍ
They've grown older, but they'll never grow up. And that is a wonderful thing.
He was born in 1984, according to Wikipedia.
Joining Link as part of the canon of CZcamsrs going grey in their thirties
Not having an outro might be the best outro for this.
@10:38 "Patron saint of the channel tunnel"
Holy crap I hurt my throat choke-laughing that was amazing
I think the best version of this game is when all three players work together and do whatever causes Tom the most stress.
Gary lost me his opening gambit 'cos there ain't no flying Vickers Wellingtons left.
headforthehillsuk But he knows that Tom doesn't know anything about aviation, so it's a bluff.
I love that I knew instantly what Wellington paranormal was, it was a very entertaining show, I watch it with my mom.
Gary was right, there is a British bomber from WWII called Wellington.
Dostwyn True, but no longer flying.
"Wellington is such a small city, nobody would set a TV show there." As a New Zealander, I find that slightly offensive!
I just came across this series and I love it.
This format is just as great and just as fun to watch as Citation Needed.
"what we do in the shadows" is also the alternative title for Tom's video about MPEG artifacts in dark areas of videos.
My favorite uploads on CZcams.
Absolutely love this series guys!
Matt: "Are you saying I can't act normally?"
Yes. That is exactly what we are saying. You *never* act "normally" 😂
Matt's breakdown at the start of the second round is absolutely brilliant..
Im so glad this show is back. Makes me laugh so much every time. thanks for the great content
Cornwall and Brittany do have very similar indigenous cultures!
AUSTOL: Accurate Ultra Short TakeOff and Landing
Us Aussies love our mates having a dig. Don't have to hold back on our behalf.
Tom, in that second one, you have no one to blame but yourself.
I love watching these since you always make me laugh out loud.
A funny dynamic I've not seen mentioned is how the person who's article it actually is, reacts to what the others make up.
Cornishman here, the saint Gary is trying to think of is St Piran, except he floated here on a mill stone not a door and is from Ireland, not France.
Please make more of these as soon as possible. Thanks in advance
What's interesting about the (Vickers) Wellington Bomber is that it was designed in Brooklands (a place pretty much any racing fan will know)
And was a record in terms of build time with 23 and a bit hours to be built and 24 before it was flying
And, since you've touched on the word before, I'll also say it was nicknamed wimpy by RAF personnel
But it had no connection (as far as I know) to new zealand
Some New Zealand squadrons flew it during WW2 I think, but tbf Gary didn't say his parachute competition was New Zealand based
Make an episode where someone else has to guess other than Tom!
That ruins the format, and Tom can't lie to save his life
@@QuantumVLOG That might be fun to see too, tho 😁
@@Jesse__H Actually yeah, fair point! Let's see Tom squirm while trying to come up with a lie 😅
"Austol" is pronounced the same way as a Swedish island called "Åstol", so it was close!
@@gordonrichardson2972 The saint is Austol.
And a polishing compound named Autosol, for like plastic hulls, chrome, etc. Was initially only listening, so thought it might be that, but they were so consistent in their pronunciation...
@@michaeltempsch5282 Life is hell for us!
Thank you.