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    I'd like to note I could of lost my scholarship if I had let them drag our grade down.
    Materials: Holbein gouache, windsor and newton gouache, paul ruben sketch book, iridescent watercolor medium, dr ph martin watercolor concentrade, the feeling of betrayal and injustice.
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  • @kkderobst
    @kkderobst  Před 3 měsíci +2642

    Hiya! You can find prints of this on my store at kkderobst.com and you can find ME on insta under the same name.

  • @xanderyusuf7494
    @xanderyusuf7494 Před 7 měsíci +25830

    "If there is one thing I learned in Roman art history, it's from Brutus, and it's how to stab someone in the back"😂

    • @najadahmer4862
      @najadahmer4862 Před 6 měsíci +167

      Roman art history can be very helpful knowledge sometimes I guess! 😅

    • @Emilywilson10222
      @Emilywilson10222 Před 6 měsíci +78

      As a classics student, 1000% stealing that line 😂😂

    • @wesleycolemanmusic
      @wesleycolemanmusic Před 6 měsíci +26

      Et tu, Brute?

    • @x.yxen.x
      @x.yxen.x Před 6 měsíci +6

      neck*
      im pretty sure

    • @Emilywilson10222
      @Emilywilson10222 Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@x.yxen.x first blow was the neck. The whole crew had a go though so the back works (though so does the neck, you’re right 😂)

  • @lilyl.6715
    @lilyl.6715 Před 7 měsíci +111118

    Rome wasn’t built in a day and they expected to write an essay on it in one ??

    • @TylerT0T4LDR4M4
      @TylerT0T4LDR4M4 Před 7 měsíci +923

      REAL‼️

    • @Liggyisbestyter1
      @Liggyisbestyter1 Před 7 měsíci +1163

      Well a essay doesn't take more than 6 hours to write if you actually were serious.

    • @Liggyisbestyter1
      @Liggyisbestyter1 Před 7 měsíci +719

      Maybe cus a essay doesn't require marble, bricks, etc and many genius architects 🤓

    • @brrrh105
      @brrrh105 Před 7 měsíci +311

      @@Liggyisbestyter1hilarious🥴

    • @Isa-lh4ev
      @Isa-lh4ev Před 7 měsíci +465

      I mean it’s feasible but I wouldn’t wanna pull that on a group project 🥴 gotta be considerate of your group mates

  • @rjhollenbeck8442
    @rjhollenbeck8442 Před 6 měsíci +16310

    Whoever invented group projects was a true psychopath. They don't help you learn anything except how to plot the murder of two of our classmates.

    • @mirainoyokai9552
      @mirainoyokai9552 Před 6 měsíci +487

      That’s indeed the important part to learn also how to put pressure on people

    • @nohballs
      @nohballs Před 6 měsíci +682

      In team oriented fields like engineering, group projects are usually important, since it helps build team building skills, cooperation, and better work ethic for real applications. But in art school I don't know it I see that being as important

    • @joshthegoony
      @joshthegoony Před 6 měsíci +351

      Yep. I get the idea of trying to work together, but kids are smart and if they learn anything with group projects, it's how to get away with doing the least amount of work, or how to make someone else do the work for you. The hardest lesson learned is the reality of being the one who has to carry all the weight and still share the same grade. Actual team building usually comes from extracurricular activities where someone not doing their part actually has an effect on the performance of the team.

    • @forgotenhatred
      @forgotenhatred Před 5 měsíci +90

      That's one of the only things that actually translates into a professional job. I work with other teams constantly to get shit done, you need to know how to do it

    • @Lea-np8rs
      @Lea-np8rs Před 5 měsíci +137

      What i learnt from group presentations: If i want it to be good, i need to do it all by myself. And to trust noone with my grades

  • @waleedwasim2061
    @waleedwasim2061 Před 6 měsíci +6065

    You didnt stab them in the back, you just gave them a dose of reality. They are grown people, and should learn to be responsible for themselves instead of pushing their problems on others, mummy and daddy aint always around to carry their shit

    • @LargeMikel
      @LargeMikel Před 4 měsíci +159

      She's saying that SHE was stabbed in the back by the other dude for stealing her topic.

    • @aimeem
      @aimeem Před 4 měsíci +75

      Sounds like they stabbed her in the back, stealing her stuff

    • @DavidCruickshank
      @DavidCruickshank Před měsícem +36

      @@LargeMikel No she stabbed THEM in the back by telling the teacher about it and making them fail the class and fall behind a year at uni.

    • @Emmaem111
      @Emmaem111 Před měsícem +84

      @@DavidCruickshank I mean, really it _was_ that person who stabbed both her _and themself_ in the back by thinking they could get away with taking all the credit of something _somebody else_ did without getting their comeuppance 💀
      Tbh the only people who I can think of who _wouldn’t_ think this are people who are just as unfair and backstabbing as that person was, and _those_ kinds of people are ultimately useless and parasitic to everyone around them cause they typically get out of doing their share of the work by stealing other people’s time and effort and acting like they did it all lol

    • @clearlynotchloe
      @clearlynotchloe Před 28 dny +1

      @@DavidCruickshankschools don’t take plagiarism lightly. sucks to fucking suck. do your own work next time.

  • @mcvenne8935
    @mcvenne8935 Před 7 měsíci +75992

    For those who don't understand what she meant at the end, it probably means they didn't get their credits for that class, so were one year behind on that specific class. Basically, a junior with a sophomore class and then a senior with a junior class, forcing them to say both when people ask their grade.

    • @jaydenking7408
      @jaydenking7408 Před 7 měsíci +2931

      I still dont understand because american terms make no sense but i think i get it 😭

    • @Nyorane
      @Nyorane Před 7 měsíci +1396

      @@jaydenking7408 Hotdog. This may be confusing for your puny non-American mind, but I will not explain.

    • @ivoryisgone6009
      @ivoryisgone6009 Před 7 měsíci +321

      @Nyorane ok😂

    • @Shaaydiia07
      @Shaaydiia07 Před 7 měsíci +1531

      @@jaydenking7408don’t worry, I’m American and still don’t understand and I’m nearly in college my self 🤦‍♀️

    • @duck6994
      @duck6994 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@NyoraneI can't tell if that's sarcasm, or another dickhead from the US

  • @soggycarrot3319
    @soggycarrot3319 Před 7 měsíci +6206

    Now I’m all for procrastinating on my own projects and doing them as the teacher is collecting them but, group projects are a different story

    • @ElSings
      @ElSings Před 6 měsíci +100

      THIS

    • @violet999ab
      @violet999ab Před 6 měsíci +349

      Yeah! As somebody who’s a serial procrastinator, if you wanna stall on your own projects until the night before then fine, but you can’t do that when there’s somebody else’s grade on the line too. That’s just fucking your groupmates over.

    • @gergyta9211
      @gergyta9211 Před 6 měsíci +109

      Facts, if it’s my own project I can and will write a passable essay the night before, but a group project is different because it’s not just my grade in jeopardy

    • @user-rh5ji6tr6v
      @user-rh5ji6tr6v Před 6 měsíci +38

      I wouldn't say I'm a procrastinator. However, to normal brained people, I'm definitely a procrastinator. My teachers always thought I'd fail essays or presentations because I never turned in completed steps. The only thing I'd turn in was what I did in class with the teacher staring me down. But then, miraculous, to them, I'd turn in an essay or term paper that grades fairly decently. Ah the powers of an ADHD brain with insomnia.

    • @AShortDork
      @AShortDork Před 6 měsíci +29

      Exactly, like I don’t really care if I take the blame cause that was on me for not turning it in, but dragging other people into my mess?? Hell nah

  • @sassyoung6388
    @sassyoung6388 Před 6 měsíci +1038

    I still haven’t fully forgiven the group who arranged to meet the day before deadline WHEN I HAD WORK to “do the presentation”. I did my quarter of the work and emailed it to them, I checked my phone on breaks to make sure there were no issues, nobody contacted me. MORNING OF DEADLINE, they claim they never got my work and need me to do the last quarter (even though some of my sentences were still in paragraphs that had been redone by them). Did my best but we weren’t done at presentation time. Prof kindly gives us the rest of the day, but a) I have class and b) I’m mad now. They scraped it together without me, and I used the “groupwork analysis” to present proof that I HAD, in fact, finished my share. Everyone passed, and I passed slightly better than they did, but the feeling of “what do you mean I still have to do the assignment I spent hours on and finished my part of?” sucked

    • @ebebebeb7283
      @ebebebeb7283 Před 4 měsíci +19

      Should have been an AI investigation if they copied your work

    • @jenniferpearce1052
      @jenniferpearce1052 Před 3 měsíci +88

      That groupwork analysis is so key. I was on a project where one guy did the whole project before the meeting to assign who would do what. We each picked what we wanted to do for our quarters and said we would use the remaining piece of his complete project for his quarter. He spent every meeting bitching that his way was better than what we did. When we turned in our group analysis, we all explained that he did this. He said he had to do everything. He got a C. We all got As. The professor knew what's what.

    • @thesleepingbeauty12
      @thesleepingbeauty12 Před měsícem +52

      I had a similar situation with a group project. After agreeing that I would be the one to do final edits and submit, they changed their minds at the last minute while I was at an event and started editing my sections of the paper in ways that were both unnecessary & offensive (inserting, among other things, something along the lines of "Islam is inherently misogynistic & backwards" - these were college students majoring in International Studies who should really know better). I did my best to revert the worst of their changes ASAP, literally sitting in the back of the room on my laptop while at an event. One of them did her section of the paper on an entirely different thing than originally agreed upon too. It was a mess, and we all had pretty bad communication skills - I won't pretend I was a perfect student, but that paper was one of the worst group project experiences of my life.

    • @lexa2310
      @lexa2310 Před 7 dny +1

      Im slightly confused. If you had your part already finished then wouldnt it have just been copy/paste? What else was there to do that it needed an extra day?

    • @lexa2310
      @lexa2310 Před 7 dny +8

      ​@@jenniferpearce1052 Had one like that too. It surprisingly annoying. Especially when they think they are doing you a service instead of just basically calling everyone in the group incompetend.

  • @marbles.thefool
    @marbles.thefool Před 6 měsíci +321

    I had to do a group project, which i typically don't like. I cant remember what it was over but the other two of my partners refused to do the work and opted to let me do all of it. So, like a normal person, I did nothing. I ended up working by myself on a presentation of my own instead of working on a group project. When it was our turn to present, they had nothing and i had my presentation. I told my teacher what was up and they ended up failing the assignment while i got a solid grade.
    Really cool art, by the way

  • @LeMon-yn1bp
    @LeMon-yn1bp Před 7 měsíci +17150

    I did, in fact, get an A on an essay I wrote the night before once. It is very possible, however I suggest doing it gradually over time and polishing it before the hand in date, it’s much less stressful.

    • @smallworldadventures1985
      @smallworldadventures1985 Před 6 měsíci +150

      I graduated with a mass communication degree this way!

    • @bella96000
      @bella96000 Před 6 měsíci +181

      I always work best against the clock

    • @thatbeaatcch9884
      @thatbeaatcch9884 Před 6 měsíci +14

      lol same here

    • @bluedragon452
      @bluedragon452 Před 6 měsíci +131

      And not stealing others work. I think that's the only way the ones being talked about in the video did.

    • @aroad2788
      @aroad2788 Před 6 měsíci +30

      I rarely did school work early and always managed to pass when I wanted to. It's very dependent on the individual

  • @MissedSage
    @MissedSage Před 7 měsíci +15797

    The way the paintbrush just glides across the paper is just wonderful and the art is so beautiful 🤧

    • @aprisiarene697
      @aprisiarene697 Před 7 měsíci +15

      Hey do you know what kind of paint she used? I would like to know 😅

    • @croissantgodofpastry
      @croissantgodofpastry Před 7 měsíci +58

      @@aprisiarene697 It looks like gouache to me but i'm not entirely sure

    • @reversereality6799
      @reversereality6799 Před 7 měsíci +72

      According to the video description!
      Materials: Holbein gouache, windsor and newton gouache, paul ruben sketch book, iridescent watercolor medium, dr ph martin watercolor concentrate...

    • @TheInfintyithGoofball
      @TheInfintyithGoofball Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@aprisiarene697 the consistency reminds me of acrylic markers
      (can u tell I'm inexperienced yet?)

    • @breidowell
      @breidowell Před 7 měsíci +3

      I wanna know the brand and size of the brush!

  • @amaraw9893
    @amaraw9893 Před 6 měsíci +654

    I've had nearly the opposite experience in a group and it's just as bad. I told them I was certified in html and I was the only one who did web development before, but they wouldn't allow me to do the backend. I ended up doing frontend. Finished everything, got my presentation together, and then went in one day to work on it and when I opened up my laptop, all my work was deleted...they deleted all my work...they wanted a blank white page over what I did...I- I'll never get over this. I was the only girl in the group. Kinda scared to go into this male heavy tech field, but I must😔✊🏽

    • @awendigowithinternetaccess4400
      @awendigowithinternetaccess4400 Před 4 měsíci +174

      I'm sorry this happened to you. This is why backup files are important. I hope the a-holes got theirs.

    • @bobtheball5384
      @bobtheball5384 Před 4 měsíci +87

      I'm so sorry that's discouraging af

    • @ebebebeb7283
      @ebebebeb7283 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Didn't use git?

    • @amaraw9893
      @amaraw9893 Před 4 měsíci

      @@awendigowithinternetaccess4400 we reverted back to mine later....after I accidentally busted out cryin when the teacher asked if something was wrong💀 she noticed I was like....not moving. I was in shock. 🤣

    • @amaraw9893
      @amaraw9893 Před 4 měsíci

      @ebebebeb7283 this was a summer program. I was in highschool and we didn't use Git at all. We used an online IDE🤣 HTML isn't even a backend language really but at the time "backend" really just meant javascript like doing buttons and anything "thought provoking" in their eyes. Still a great experience tbh but they assumed I was just a dumb black girl...

  • @hal5964
    @hal5964 Před 6 měsíci +85

    I hate those types of people on projects because they get all mad that they got no points for not doing anything when you bring it up with your teacher. I'm all for procrastinating on my own work, but not when there's other people involved with the grade.

  • @rebeccamason973
    @rebeccamason973 Před 7 měsíci +10256

    I love story’s of people getting revenge of a group mate that didn’t do shit on the project
    Edit: I haven’t seen this comment since I commented it and oh god this is the most likes I’ve ever had on a comment thank you

    • @ceruleangel
      @ceruleangel Před 7 měsíci +291

      I learned to do all of the extra assignments in my classes and earned all the extra credit available just so I could tank group projects if I had to. It only took 2 times before people learned I'm not carrying ANYBODY.
      I got along with my teachers well enough that they knew a sudden 0 was unlike me, and quickly figured out what happened. People thought, she likes school and she has all A's, she'll do the work. That 0 credit woke them up very quickly.

    • @PlanetZaia
      @PlanetZaia Před 7 měsíci +45

      @@ceruleangelsmart! 😂

    • @wolvie1618
      @wolvie1618 Před 7 měsíci +129

      I once had to make a whole PowerPoint that was supposed to be everyone's responsibility by myself. So I put whatever I wanted on there and let them present it to the class with no help from me. They had to make it look like they knew what they were talking about while covering slides that they had never reviewed beforehand. It was pretty nice 😂

    • @julianwilliams396
      @julianwilliams396 Před 7 měsíci +112

      She didn’t get revenge. What she did was fair and she told the truth. She didn’t do it back to him or get even. She just told the truth. That’s not revenge, that’s justice.

    • @PlanetZaia
      @PlanetZaia Před 7 měsíci +19

      @@wolvie1618 that’s a great way for revenge if you can’t exactly tell on them 😂

  • @baseemalmohen4645
    @baseemalmohen4645 Před 7 měsíci +23262

    That’s really shitty and I am that person that can do an essay an hour before class but you will never catch me doing that in a group project. Glad you got justice♥️♥️

    • @livloves1616
      @livloves1616 Před 7 měsíci +659

      Same, I do my own shit last minute but I always stayed on top of group projects in school, even if I could do it last minute and get an A. I also make sure that if anyone needs help with their part of the project then they have me available for that. I usually took control of every group project and I was told numerous times that I was bossy bc I got mad at my groupmates that weren't doing their part. I usually made sure everything looked cohesive in a project once we all put our things together if it was something like a powerpoint or something with multiple parts. I hated group projects bc I always thought I could have just done the entire project myself, usually because I did, but I never hesitated to tell the teacher about it because it was incredibly frustrating and those students didn't deserve an A for my work.

    • @aidenflame1576
      @aidenflame1576 Před 7 měsíci +178

      Same! If i fuck up i wouldnt steal someone elses part in a project. I dun o if id fess up tht i screwed up (itd be obvious) but i wouldnt steal another students work or blame them
      I always did my stuff on time though even if it was the day before xD

    • @JustAFace_InTheCrowd
      @JustAFace_InTheCrowd Před 7 měsíci +79

      Same. Group projects are the worst. I always ask if I can do them by myself- and a lot of the time I got to.
      Once, I even forgot to do my part in a group project, but literally pulled it all together in the last 10 min before class. My group was all panicked, but I was like- “Pfft… It’s okay.”
      I had to do “the speaking part” so I just f***ing winged that sh!t; pulled some stuff up on my phone and summoned all of my skill in theater to get through it. We got an A.
      It’s better to just BS your way through it than steal. Procrastination is an art form in itself after all.😂

    • @udontevenwannaknowbruv
      @udontevenwannaknowbruv Před 7 měsíci +45

      I once grabbed a random book from the library 2 hours before my book report/presentation, put together and awful looking PowerPoint (though that wasn’t mandatory), read the first 10 pages and skimmed through the rest of the book and then went on to bullsh*t my way throughout the entire presentation. Surprisingly I got an A. I was kinda nervous that the teacher would know about that book and call my bluff but I had chosen Brooke Shield’s autobiography or something about her post partum depression so it was unlikely that he would’ve read it lol. Ngl I felt absolutely invincible when I received a good grade for my stupid behaviour 😂

    • @jayvee1387
      @jayvee1387 Před 7 měsíci +47

      Same! I procrastinate like a MFKR but youll never catch me intentionally fucking up someone elses grade cuz IM lazy and cannot executively function lol. Even if im in a group with ppl i hate, im not putting off group work

  • @baronvonwolfin4215
    @baronvonwolfin4215 Před 6 měsíci +185

    This is why the night before you notify the professor of the work you did as well as the situation with the other group members.

    • @undefinederror40404
      @undefinederror40404 Před dnem +4

      The night before? More like... two or three days before if you have the chance. I've told teachers in person after class when something is going wrong in the team, I always tell them (and genuinly mean it) that I don't want to play the blame game but I wanted to update the teacher in case it goes very wrong.

  • @dianajackson4841
    @dianajackson4841 Před 6 měsíci +210

    Something similar happened when I was in college. On presentation day for my medical physiology class, the guy that was in charge of submitting our presentation, created a new one by himself. He didn't say a word to any of us about it prior. I was LIVID because I'd spent hours creating a good presentation and he just tossed it. So when it's my turn to speak, I'm speechless, because idk what I'm even looking at or where to start. What he created wasn't visually engaging and was extremely vague. He then takes over and begins talking for me, which makes me look unprepared. This pissed me off even more, because I couldn't even fake it and just present what was there. I'm an introvert and to public speak is already nerve-wracking, so I'd meticulously planned everything I was going to say.
    Anyway, after class, I immediately emailed the professor and sent the original presentation that we ALL agreed on 2 days prior, as well as highlighted what my section was. I also offered to come in and present on my own, so she'd know I was prepared. Oh! I forgot to mention, she immediately entered the grades in after class and gave me a C. After reading my email, she spoke with the Dean of the College of Health Sciences (which I didn't know she'd do) and I was given an A.
    That was a huge lesson for me in so many ways. From then on, I final submitted every group project I ever worked on in college lol. It also taught me to advocate for myself. Had I left it alone, I would've gotten a C. And finally, I learned to overcome, somewhat, being an introvert. I still hate large social gatherings, but I forced myself to take on more public speaking opportunities, and even worked a job that required me to talk extensively to people.
    Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

    • @lmelki89
      @lmelki89 Před 6 měsíci +36

      I'm always surprised on how widespread this archetype is. "The one person from the group assignment that does nothing and tries to f*ck you over" is an omnipresent entity no matter your country or culture.

    • @cary9479
      @cary9479 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Then you are or were probably shy and not only an introvert, being introverted is an personality trait and being shy more of a fear, you can overgome being shy, ehat you did, but to overgome being an introvert would mean you would change your personality what is really hard and takes a very long time, like years to see the smallest changes. What you now feel is being introverted what you felt back than was being shy

    • @silver474
      @silver474 Před 3 měsíci +19

      I did this, was called a Karen by my prof and still given a C. I HATE group projects with a passion.

  • @persephonesodapop9103
    @persephonesodapop9103 Před 7 měsíci +2577

    As a procrastinator, good on you. I’ll admit defeat before I screw someone else over on a group project.

    • @Korixon.
      @Korixon. Před 6 měsíci +280

      I only procrastinate if it’s my own project but when I work with someone, I make sure to not let them down

    • @persephonesodapop9103
      @persephonesodapop9103 Před 6 měsíci +39

      @@Korixon. yeah, same

    • @_.skyyblue._
      @_.skyyblue._ Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@Korixon.fr

    • @fluffycorn_njst
      @fluffycorn_njst Před 6 měsíci +22

      Weird how our own selves are our sole downfall

    • @voidumsol7816
      @voidumsol7816 Před 6 měsíci +1

      As you should because the person that didn’t procrastinate probably also has the “back stab the back stabber” trait as well HAH!

  • @emhoj97
    @emhoj97 Před 7 měsíci +2246

    Scenarios like these when I went to school is why I wish more teachers would go to each group and note down who in the group was assigned what task/topic. The groups decide that on their own, but the teacher has the notes ready for presentation day.
    Then no person can get by with riding on someone elses effort, or others failing because one/several didn't do their part.
    This way the students who did their work can get an appropriate grade and whoever didn't do their part is alone with their consequences.
    I had one teacher who did this and all the slackers learnt quickly to actually put in effort.

    • @Nyctua
      @Nyctua Před 7 měsíci +83

      That's such a good idea. Why haven't most teachers come up with this?

    • @N95j
      @N95j Před 7 měsíci +30

      thats a really good idea! why aren’t more teachers doing this?

    • @dibel3669
      @dibel3669 Před 7 měsíci +37

      ​@@Nyctuathey don't get paid enough to care. Why bother with anything except the minimum at that point.

    • @Nyctua
      @Nyctua Před 7 měsíci +30

      @@dibel3669 why did they choose to become a teacher then if they can't be bothered to care for their students?

    • @dibel3669
      @dibel3669 Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@Nyctua idk, ask them.

  • @Issa.nicholas
    @Issa.nicholas Před měsícem +17

    How you can just sit there and listen to someone present your work without throwing hands is honestly commendable…

  • @surrealistgirlx
    @surrealistgirlx Před 6 měsíci +155

    From a former adjunct professor - I despise group projects. I always made a point of making sure that each group member has a piece of their own.

  • @cloudscovermyflaws
    @cloudscovermyflaws Před 7 měsíci +4582

    In psych rn! Fun fact, the phenomenon when people put less work into projects when working in a group is called social loafing! This is the reason most people who don’t like working in groups hate group work.

    • @K.YouTube2
      @K.YouTube2 Před 7 měsíci +274

      Well I'd think that the people who hate group work would hate working in groups. Was that last sentence supposed to say that?

    • @kimberlyrobinson3992
      @kimberlyrobinson3992 Před 7 měsíci +245

      Thank you for the accurate terminology. From now on, I will call those kinds of people “social loafers” rather than “lazy asses”.

    • @shizukagozen777
      @shizukagozen777 Před 7 měsíci +128

      Or... When you get excluded from said group for no reason, when you were the one hyping everyone up because no one wanted to do shit to begin with... lol...

    • @LawnOrnament
      @LawnOrnament Před 7 měsíci +25

      @@K.CZcams2the last sentence is perfectly fine.

    • @sepiajoy2871
      @sepiajoy2871 Před 7 měsíci +137

      Yup! And the larger the group, the more social loafing is enabled. It infuriates me when my psych professors create environments for their students where such things are only increased (everyone gets the same grade, little/no feedback about others work, large groups)

  • @elisa6212
    @elisa6212 Před 7 měsíci +5724

    Here my son had the same issue. In any team work he would end up doing all the work alone, even the parts that weren't his, because every teacher always told him it was supposed to be a team work and the same vote would go to all. They were practically saying in a team you're responsible for the team. None of his class mates ever wanted to put in any work, so he often ended up doing it all by himself.
    I'm talking middle school, high school AND university. But in work environments it's very much the same.
    I think it's an idiotic system to just relieve the teacher (or boss) from taking measures.
    All the kids that skipped work think themselves so clever and they will simply grow into parasites.

    • @raizaintilian
      @raizaintilian Před 7 měsíci +304

      That’s when you send it to the higher ups. Or just have him do his part and if the teacher doesn’t give him proper credit then go to the principal. 🤷‍♀️ sometimes the parents need to put those teachers in their place

    • @softsage112
      @softsage112 Před 7 měsíci +198

      That’s why our teacher has us split up the work for example we each do two slides in a 4 person group and we put the names in the slides we did and she grades us individually and not as a group,so it’s like a individual project within a group project

    • @nicoleperron3315
      @nicoleperron3315 Před 7 měsíci +99

      Interesting, my son had a similar problem in grade school, instead of changing the groups or teams, the teacher, one year especially, always put my son with any child that was really struggling, when I questioned it because it lowered my son's grades a bit because he was helping the other child, the answer I got was it's because my son is nice and he'll help them and not make fun or embarrass them like the other kids, that he had a kind soul.
      My reaction was " oh " so since I raised him to be kind, I let it go 😂 He's finishing university now.
      I can say overall he was not harmed by being kind.

    • @elisa6212
      @elisa6212 Před 7 měsíci +53

      ​@@raizaintilianunfortunately that's not how it works here. Principals haven't the power to fire or discipline teachers in any way. They're just sort of administrators. Turning to them is a very last resort because the chances are the teacher won't face any consequence plus they'll probably turn to the child with a vengeance.
      We did that once when a teacher was calling our 14 y.olds retards because they were failing to learn by heart lists of hundredS, no kidding, of new German words. Perfect spelling and relative article ("the" is said in three different ways in German, every word different, very little or no way to tell if not by learning by heart). One single letter wrong it was one full point off (our votes go 0 to 10, 5 or below being D or less). So you can imagine, only four or five kids passed that test. Apparently the rest needed to go to a mental hospital for a neuro check-up (verbatim).
      I, as class parents representative, went to the principal. We talked one hour and a half. Nothing could be done. Sue for bullying also wouldn't have yielded results, all she had to do was saying she was kidding. The principal actually had no way to remove her.
      But apparently my angry speech worked as the year after she was moved to another class (sigh), and that had no precedent.

    • @Choco_paz
      @Choco_paz Před 7 měsíci +37

      That's one thing I like about my school. If we do projects, we have an assigned group leader who at the end of the presentation will give a personal account of what everyone in the group did. Then the teacher would call the group members in private to ask them what they did and if it doesn't tally, then the group loses the marks for participation.

  • @CensorshipIsOpression
    @CensorshipIsOpression Před 6 měsíci +22

    I absolutely hate group projects, I used to love them, until I realized that most the time, you get matched with people who try to push work onto everyone else.
    On my last willing project, I did 90% of the work, but we were individually graded despite the work being presented as ONE. And somehow, I was graded the lowest although our presentation was all of MY WORK that they were leeching off of.
    I refused to do group work, I was so DONE.
    I was much happier doing all that work myself and being out in the open, than people getting credit for what I did.
    My grades weren't negatively impacted by the laziness of others after this, it made me more productive.
    I am so happy to finally be done with schools in general.

  • @giadabilbao4156
    @giadabilbao4156 Před 7 měsíci +1199

    Props to the prof who understood the situation.

    • @shookyscousin
      @shookyscousin Před 6 měsíci +9

      Literally… none of my teachers (especially my gcse drama teacher) would acknowledge the fact that I was the only one doing the work. Like in drama, when I was the only one devising and coming up with the script and storyline (etc), everyone else also got credit for the work that they didn’t do and it was super annoying, even after I told the teacher what was going on 0-0

    • @giadabilbao4156
      @giadabilbao4156 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@shookyscousin then darling they do not recognize the talent. I may not have seen your work, but I know they are awesome!

  • @Sirenhalo
    @Sirenhalo Před 7 měsíci +1232

    I'm a huge procrastinator and it's definitely a problem. I can also write a research paper the night before and get an A, but as soon as it's a group project where my work will effect other people, I will make sure everything is done a week in advance. Don't get me wrong, I hate group projects, but I refuse to be the one who drops the ball at the last minute.

    • @rollipolliolli
      @rollipolliolli Před 7 měsíci +73

      Exactly. I can procrastinate on my own projects but when my work impacts someone else's grade it gets full attention and effort

    • @Gore-Labs
      @Gore-Labs Před 6 měsíci +19

      Fr, if it just effects me, I will procrastinate until I die, but the moment it effects someone else, I will get on it immediately.

    • @humanbeing4321
      @humanbeing4321 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Same pretty much try to never screw over my group.

    • @Glo48
      @Glo48 Před 6 měsíci +4

      This is the exact reason I hate group projects, I can’t procrastinate😫

    • @Panzerfaust_1939
      @Panzerfaust_1939 Před 6 měsíci

      Same here

  • @Scarshadow666
    @Scarshadow666 Před 10 dny +5

    Worst group project that I've experienced actually had to do with the nature of the assignment. My group had to dissect a donated lab rat for a biology assignment for a week (this was when I was in middle school, back when Myspace was big and some time before CZcams - we didn't have to dissect frogs, but technology wasn't yet at the point where people could digitally dissect something yet).
    I can remember being squeamish/not being able to pull my weight for the project, but ended up needing to suck it up since the group assignment relied on everyone doing their part. I was eventually able to deal with it and got my group and I to pass the assignment - but man, I'm really thankful they have better technology to teach kids nowadays! 0_0

    • @kkderobst
      @kkderobst  Před 10 dny +2

      "Donated lab rat" who had one lying around??? when i was in 8th grade we got to dissect bleached sheep hearts. I got yelled at for putting my finger through the aorta and singing beyonce.

  • @kimberlyburga7468
    @kimberlyburga7468 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Except for the fact that Brutus was the only member of the mutiny that stabbed Caesar in the front. "Et tu, Brutei?"

  • @beautifuldreamer0811
    @beautifuldreamer0811 Před 7 měsíci +2524

    This reminds me of my first ever presentation at a corporate meeting. My boss was also supposed to present during this time but for a different topic. I was given very specific topics to put together. I pulled data and compiled all of this info/personal insights and innovation, etc. Here comes the day of the meeting. Boss asks to check out what I have for my presentation "out of curiosity" and I proceed to stupidly hand over my notes for him to give a once over. After a few minutes, he hands them back and says "well done, looks like you put in a lot of effort". We go up to present, I am supposed to say my part first. He steps in front of me and says "I'll just go ahead and go". THEN PROCEEDS TO TOUCH ON EVERY SINGLE TOPIC I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS, A LOT OF IT DAMN NEAR WORD FOR WORD, leaving me standing up there fuming. When he was done, he turns to me and says,"do you have anything to add or does that cover it?" That guy is now the bumbling District Manager for a rapidly failing company and I eventually wisened up and got the hell out. Now they are a sinking ship. Fuck people like that.

    • @orangebjort5222
      @orangebjort5222 Před 7 měsíci +90

      Hell yeah! You go!

    • @Emily-gx6dd
      @Emily-gx6dd Před 7 měsíci +147

      JEEZ this made me mad just reading it!! I’m so angry this happened to you, but glad you got out!!

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 Před 7 měsíci +64

      I wonder how it works if you introduce errors into the report so that anyone that steals it get rekt.

    • @viviangod_win
      @viviangod_win Před 7 měsíci +113

      I would’ve outed him right then and there - well, no, you just presented all of my research that you reviewed a few moments ago. You have really great memorization skills 😄 photographic memory?

    • @Scuuurbs
      @Scuuurbs Před 7 měsíci +70

      I would’ve brought it up to HR or the ethics board. You have a search history to prove your work, he probably just had porn on incognito 🙄

  • @marikastewart2730
    @marikastewart2730 Před 7 měsíci +963

    This reminds me of a presentation a few jobs ago. It was our annual meeting with community partners and coalition members. My boss had everyone do a rehearsal presentation to him for ahead of time, he didn't show his work because "he was fine and didn't need approval". On the day of the annual meeting he presented right before I did. Why I say he shared my presentation, it was my exact presentation - the order of going through our issues, the exact wording of what I was going to say, he even used the exact jokes I had written in the same place. I was shocked and horrified. When he came off stage and it was time for me to go he even gave me a little smirk as he walked past. Oddly enough, I gave my presentation, with only minor ad libs, but a lot of enthusiasm and energy. I got bigger reactions, louder laughs, and bigger applause. I don't know if they didn't realize it was the same presentation. Maybe it was just unconsciously more interesting to hear from the person who did the work and knew the information. But I'll never forget it. People who don't do their work in school go on the being people who don't do their work as adults too.

    • @JulesJuno737
      @JulesJuno737 Před 5 měsíci

      Wow.....I hope he steps on an extension cord at night.

    • @majarini
      @majarini Před 5 měsíci +124

      Holy shit. That's nasty af

    • @bobtheball5384
      @bobtheball5384 Před 4 měsíci

      Hope that dude is eating a big ol bowl of bull sh*t rn

    • @gangliaghost8720
      @gangliaghost8720 Před 4 měsíci +60

      Whoa hope you left that job yuck

    • @jenniferpearce1052
      @jenniferpearce1052 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Bosses are allowed to flat out assigning you creation of your presentation and then having you tell them what it should be and where. Why wouldn't he just do that? And then have you present a different topic or not present?

  • @killiansirishbeer
    @killiansirishbeer Před měsícem +5

    There was this one girl in highschool who never did her work on time. The first year we learned our lesson, the two that followed we didn't want anything to do with her. Except one of the girls my friend an I paired with for big group projects was her friend, and couldn't say no to her in fear of looking bad, so she shoved that responsibility onto others. One time, senior year, we were working in groups of five, and my friend and I talked to the teacher and ended up working just us two because we couldn't put up with her again and would rather have a bigger work load each. It went like a breeze, especially since it was the second trimester and we had different group projects for different classes and we divided the work among us two based on our strengths and then decide and/or put the projects together at school since it wasn't easy to meet up often to work together in real life. Those projects were part of our final grades for senior year.

  • @duckalot
    @duckalot Před 6 měsíci +11

    Oh god, flashbacks to the public-school-induced trust issues of the forced group projects and struggling to communicate and not be taken advantage of academically by my randomly-assigned partners.

  • @tinedrise
    @tinedrise Před 7 měsíci +733

    Thats awesome. Similar thing happened to me (I’m a high school freshman), but google docs edit history doesn’t lie. Seeing their face when I ccd them on the email with the screenshots would have made my life.

    • @shizukagozen777
      @shizukagozen777 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I'm not sure: you did it or you didn't do it ? 🤔

    • @gabrieldartemius9940
      @gabrieldartemius9940 Před 7 měsíci

      They mean they wish they could have been present to see their faces when they saw the screenshots.@@shizukagozen777

    • @che4840
      @che4840 Před 7 měsíci +49

      the nerve that people have when they lie about google docs edit history 😂

    • @ChubbyUnicorn
      @ChubbyUnicorn Před 7 měsíci +5

      Thanks for the tip!

    • @tinedrise
      @tinedrise Před 7 měsíci +29

      @@shizukagozen777 I did! just from the safety of my own home haha

  • @Namoraslife
    @Namoraslife Před 7 měsíci +746

    That's why you always go first in group presentations. No one can steal your shit if you go first. And then watch them struggle their way through their part, only jumping in at the very end when the professor starts asking questions, because you also did their part and can actually answer these questions.

    • @RedPilledAsFuck
      @RedPilledAsFuck Před 7 měsíci +10

      but the person who ended up getting exposed did go first. idunno how they stole this lady’s stuff i guess she shared it with the group ?

    • @spacetofu5306
      @spacetofu5306 Před 7 měsíci +54

      ​@@RedPilledAsFuckyep, and it seems like they stole it when they ran back to add it in and thats why op's group should have gone in first, it leaves no chances for the slacker to save themselves

    • @amyyost7022
      @amyyost7022 Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@spacetofu5306The problem with that logic is that only one member per group can follow it unless you’re all presenting simultaneously

    • @bean6803
      @bean6803 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Considering that it sounds like the slides were in a specified chronological order, they probably would have gone before OP during the presentation either way. The only hope would have been the group going first so that the slacker didn’t have any time-but since the slacker went directly to the professor, they essentially forced the group’s hand.
      Honestly, what it sounds like happened is that the slacker waited until the last possible minute/possibly forgot to do it, panicked when they saw they didn’t have nearly enough material, making it was obvious that they didn’t put much work in-so they attempted to throw OP under the bus by padding out their part with OP’s material, making _them_ look like the underprepared one.

    • @astraamarante6233
      @astraamarante6233 Před 7 měsíci +16

      @@bean6803lol, I probably would’ve butted in and been like “Um, excuse me, I believe that’s MY part, I would like to be the one to present it, please and thank you.”

  • @dorothyallspice1862
    @dorothyallspice1862 Před 6 měsíci +25

    Daaaaamn, you DID deserve that A! Your art is stunning!

  • @hannb99
    @hannb99 Před 14 dny +4

    I too can write an entire essay the day before it’s due but I’m absolutely not doing that when other people are involved

  • @febefox5930
    @febefox5930 Před 7 měsíci +358

    I’ll never forget the two classes I did the group projects by myself in. Not a single person in my group emailed anyone to even start until *8pm* the day before it was due. By then, I had already done and submitted the whole project alone lmao

    • @malachicarter712
      @malachicarter712 Před 7 měsíci +40

      Hope you didn't let them get credit, cuz I would've put my name on it and nothing else.

    • @febefox5930
      @febefox5930 Před 7 měsíci +58

      @@malachicarter712 I included in my submission that I'd done the whole assignment alone, so I doubt they got credit for it. The class went online for Covid around the same time, so I never saw them again either lol

    • @parrotcracker6629
      @parrotcracker6629 Před 7 měsíci +34

      Did you even bother to email them before you did the projects alone? Almost the same thing happened to me but I managed to corral my group members into contributing. We had 3 weeks to finish a presentation on a famous photographer and no one contacted anyone else for 2 weeks. Finally I just stepped in as leader and contacted everyone by group message (this was an online class for photography). In the end everyone contributed and we had the best presentation out of the class. I was actually prepared to do the project alone and leave my group members to sink but I also needed to cover myself and let them know so in case they brought it up later as an excuse like say, "No one told me anything or contacted me" . I wouldn't be held liable for their failings.

    • @febefox5930
      @febefox5930 Před 7 měsíci +34

      @@parrotcracker6629 Nah, but I get where you’re coming from. We were a group for the entire semester, and when the class was still in person they’d sit and watch soccer matches and stuff on their phones in class while I worked on “our” first project. They were borderline illiterate anyway, so I didn’t care much because I’d rather do it all myself and get a good grade. So, when the class went online and the had absolutely 0 face-to-face accountability to a teacher, I didn’t bother trying to rescue them a second time.
      Plus, it was college at that point. I didn’t care a whole lot about rescuing teams in HS or whatever, but if you made it to college I’m not going to babysit you lmao

    • @elliemeow6167
      @elliemeow6167 Před 7 měsíci

      @@parrotcracker6629this is 100% how its handled properly! Great job! Always take the leadership position, if need be, and make sure people do their fair share! Contacting them to CYA was a great idea!!
      Document everything in group projects! Meetings, times, what was discussed, whos working on what, who replies back or doesnt.
      People put themselves in shit positions. But a leader will bring the best out of people who normally do shit work on their own! Kudos!!

  • @viggiestrikes
    @viggiestrikes Před 7 měsíci +84

    This one group assignment got me with all the deadbeats who assumed I would just make all the slides and present. I just stood on stage pretending to have lost my voice to a cold and watched them questioned by the faculty. Petty and self destructive , yes. But worth it.

    • @majarini
      @majarini Před 5 měsíci +1

      You are doing the lord's work, my friend. I wish I had thought of this before

  • @ArgostheCreeper
    @ArgostheCreeper Před 6 měsíci +5

    This is one of the reasons why I quit art college. Why am I being forced to take a course I don’t want to take, if I’m the one paying for it?

  • @YumegakaMurakumo
    @YumegakaMurakumo Před 6 měsíci +5

    They tried to steal your thunder. And you stole it back. Nice lol

  • @riverstein7251
    @riverstein7251 Před 7 měsíci +124

    I’ve had many group projects in my 23 years, and despite attending college the one seared into my memory was my 10th grade chemistry project. Because the teacher forced us to make a music video in which we had to write song lyrics explaining a chemistry topic, sing them, and cut together footage of us providing visual aides. Doing all the work because my partners were extremely lazy was the least of my problems for that project, I had to _sing._ With no backup or harmonizing with my group like I asked, which would have disguised the fact that we aren’t singers, we were teenagers recording on a very crappy built in laptop mic. So when the entire class burst into laughter at how bad the singing quality was, I was alone in my shame. It lasted 5 minutes, and they didn’t stop laughing _once._
    Our teacher was nice, but that project was so evil that it overshadowed every nice thing she ever did. That shit *_haunts_* me. Even if I got my partners docked severely for not helping, nothing could ever fix that rare moment of public humiliation for me.

    • @JulesJuno737
      @JulesJuno737 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Ooh I had that in Microbio in college. It wasn't the one that scarred me but I empathize. Ms. G was a jerk too - announced "If you've entered this lab you're already covered in MRSA, lets talk about MRSA and how it kills grandmas in their beds"....er...thanks Ms. G....

    • @majarini
      @majarini Před 5 měsíci +10

      Holy crap man. That must've hurt. 😢

    • @tac7288
      @tac7288 Před 4 měsíci +23

      That just sounds like the teacher is severely unintelligent about social shit :T

  • @tic857
    @tic857 Před 7 měsíci +82

    Back in college i had a guy who did this to me. He had a big ego and was always a show off. He didn't do any of the lab work and wanted all the presentation credit. He took my and another kids portion. I said nothing, other than tell the other kid to relax. Came to me. I threw in my USB, looked up, apologized to the class that there was going to be a repeat in information. And released a whole set of data and information that was not shared with the ah, motion to my other classmate to finish with a majority different conclusion. Professor wasnt happy and came to ask why we had a disjointed presentation. And I presented a copy of all the data sheets and student check ins and out. Including all the files the other students sent me, including all the major correspondence between my lab mates. All except... AH. AH didn't realize that the data set that he bullied out from another lab mate was missing the set he would have collected. He failed the assignment and the rest of my team got graded on the presentation that didn't include his bs. Twas grand. Professor was said "stealing other people's work and presenting it as your own is HIGHLY frowned upon in academia, especially in the medical field." And eyed AH so hard even though the class was marine biology.

  • @Chibi-bb1vw
    @Chibi-bb1vw Před 5 měsíci +5

    It’s funny that I’m getting this video now, because yesterday my partner for a presentation, for which I did practically all the work,…simply didn’t show up to it. And she neither warned me nor sent me any of our materials…so I had to improvise her and my part alone without a PowerPoint…

  • @ICanCreateThat
    @ICanCreateThat Před 6 měsíci +5

    Sounds like a lot of my bosses who took credit for my hard work and never recognized nir financially compensated me for it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @kyojin_9526
    @kyojin_9526 Před 7 měsíci +10

    LITERALLY the exact same thing happened to me back when I was in college
    So basically as part of engineering curriculum, we had to spend one month of summer vacation doing summer training. And during that month, all the students in groups of four have to visit an industrial/ construction area on a daily basis. where we will be as observers learning how things work in that area (work scope, work culture, safety regulations, etc…).
    Me and three colleagues were going to a hospital that was under construction. And the construction manager was really supportive and welcoming and taught us a lot. HOWEVER, i was the only one who was writing notes at the time because each one of us will have to prepare a presentation about the things that he learned during his summer training and present it to the college professors.
    NOW HERE IS THE REAL KICK IN THE NUTS, while preparing the presentation, one of my group members asked for my notes and I told him that the notes had plenty of information for both of us, as long he helps me with presentation preparation and he agreed.
    BUT… on presentation day, i was supposed to be first but since the professor didn’t come in time, I thought that maybe i could go for a quick bath room break and I already told my colleague to call me once the professor arrives. Moments later, he called and told me that the professor came. But when I got there 😮… i got PISSED. NOT ONLY DID HE PRESENT BEFORE ME, BUT ALSO USED ALMOST ALL OF MY NOTES AS IF IT WAS HIS 😮. And the professor even told me as I entered “ wow he did such an amazing job, I can’t believe he managed to gather this much knowledge during the summer vacation”
    That was my hard work!!!!!!!🤬
    There was no way I was going to let that slide!!
    So I told the professor right in front of everyone
    “These were my slides and I have proof”
    Then I proceeded to present what I have prepared (even though that guy already mentioned it)
    Then after I left, that colleague HAD THE AUDACITY TO GET UPSET 😮. He said that what I did was not cool at all, and it made him look bad 🙄.
    Wow

  • @cazzabojangles
    @cazzabojangles Před 7 měsíci +10

    I had a similar situation in uni. I was doing a group project with four other girls and we had to make a presentation and then show it to the class where we would get a shared grade.
    I wasn't normally there, so I didn't know anyone particularly well, but three of the girls were best friends from school and the other was deaf and didn't speak to anyone. I knew sign language so I worked with the deaf girl while the three others laughed off the project and said they'd "get it done".
    Come the day of the presentation, they had submitted nothing and all three of them had mysteriously disappeared. So the deaf girl removed their names from all the documents and slides and I presented. An hour later, we got a message from them in a group chat asking how "we'd " done and I said that we'd got 84%, which was an A. The next morning, they received their grades, which were all 0%. They asked what happened and I just said "you didn't complete the project, simple as." I never saw them again, but I still speak to the deaf girl a lot now. We both graduated together this year. It turned out that the three girls did this a lot and subsequently had to repeat their year.

  • @Dinosaur_Ducky
    @Dinosaur_Ducky Před 4 měsíci +2

    “It happened to be a group project, which SUCKED-“
    Relatable asf 😭😭😭

  • @orangecat9551
    @orangecat9551 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I feel this my scientific writing course, i was supposed to write a 10 page essay on the merele gene in dogs with a group of 4 other people. Luckily I have trust issues to I wrote two papers. I did one where I did just my portion and I wrote one where I did the whole thing by myself. I knew by the first time we were supposed to meet and everyone cancelled that I was going to be the only one writing. The day to turn it in came and they all saw me turn in my packet of an essay and when I sat dowm they started thanking me for doing the work. I had already emailed my teacher by the third time we rescheduled our meeting. I got a B and they had to redo the assignment individually.

  • @Fizzilie
    @Fizzilie Před 7 měsíci +266

    Bruh, that deserves an A+, my dude.

    • @yan_dj
      @yan_dj Před 6 měsíci +1

      Pretty sure that's a woman

    • @Fizzilie
      @Fizzilie Před 6 měsíci +27

      @@yan_dj I use dude as a gender neutral term.

    • @_long.live.ryanne_4836
      @_long.live.ryanne_4836 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@yan_djpretty sure they would know that

  • @sharongillesp
    @sharongillesp Před 6 měsíci +93

    It’s amazing how it takes such a small number of people to mess up everything for the majority.

  • @awsum_adri
    @awsum_adri Před 6 měsíci +2

    Look, i was one of those students who could write an essay in one anxiety-fueled night and still get a pretty good grade. BUT I WOULDNT DO THAT ON A GROUP PROJECT!!!! WHAT KINDA JERK DOES THAT??????
    That happened to me in my high school Dentistry class tho. 3 people in my group, our topic was Dental Procedures. We each chose one dental procedure to focus on and talk about. So for the presentation and essay, it was a "put your slides together and send em to me and I'll piece it all together" type situation. One group member sent me his presentation and essay part the night before (I didn't mind cuz I was still working on my stuff too) but the other member sent NOTHING. We couldnt postpone the presentation so I ended up throwing smth super simple together for his part of the slideshow. But we had to turn the essay in late, which made me super mad. It's one thing if I choose to procrastinate and screw up my own grade. But don't do that to other people...

  • @kryssiicat
    @kryssiicat Před 6 měsíci +4

    Subbed at 74.2K🎉 I'm glad you didn't let that person's betrayal ruin everything for the rest of your group. Personally, I LOVE Art History but its definitely not everyone's favorite subjects. You are VERY talented.

  • @itspixiemily
    @itspixiemily Před 7 měsíci +152

    I had something similar happen to me in high school. It was the most frustrating and embarrassing thing I have ever experienced. I HATE group assignments.

  • @PlsSpankMeh
    @PlsSpankMeh Před 7 měsíci +94

    Seriously though, group projects are a pain. I'm someone who does extremely well on my own. I hated being in a group because sometimes I'm the group leader because I'm "smart" even though I'm someone who doesn't do well telling people what to do or asking for opinions of what to do because i feel shy doing so. However, i do excell in getting the job done if I'm told to what to do or if I'm alone. I just hate being at the center and tell people what not to do. It feels extremely wrong to tell people they shouldn't do something.

    • @Shrimp_Insurance
      @Shrimp_Insurance Před 7 měsíci +2

      Pretty much the point of group projects, it's supposed to teach you how to work together and overcome your anxieties about it. Sounds like you would've benefited from more group projects to practice that

  • @THSGC
    @THSGC Před 7 dny +1

    "Which SUUUUCKED!"
    I felt that 😂

  • @kireiira
    @kireiira Před 6 měsíci +3

    For my OWN assignments and projects, I usually do things at the last minute but end up with an A. But I would never do that with a group project because other people's success also depends on you.

  • @longwaydown6959
    @longwaydown6959 Před 7 měsíci +217

    That's why I would always ask to just do the entire project myself, I didn't care about the work load. I'd rather do the extra work and pass then have to potentially lose more points on the assignment because someone didn't do their part.

    • @aliasilver_636
      @aliasilver_636 Před 7 měsíci +25

      They dont allow that because the whole point is to assess your ability to work as a team. I know - sucks, especially for introverts. Look out for some education studies that discuss the overrepresentation of extroverted teaching, grading, and assessment methods. Its slowly being recognised as harmful by education academics.

    • @taekwondokid
      @taekwondokid Před 7 měsíci +16

      ​@@aliasilver_636I wish they actually acknowledged that in my school. I recently had a project and I ended up doing most of the work. Of course, I informed the teacher in charge but she'll probably give them the same marks as I'll get. This is why I hate working in a group

    • @peeshiepooshie3734
      @peeshiepooshie3734 Před 7 měsíci +10

      I had luck with this once. We were in pairs and I got paired with a student who showed up maybe 10% of the time. I immediately asked to do the project alone cause she wasn't in class when it was assigned lol. I got a decent grade and really didn't feel bad.

    • @taekwondokid
      @taekwondokid Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@peeshiepooshie3734 You really got lucky

    • @suckedintothevoid
      @suckedintothevoid Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@aliasilver_636 not necessarily -- it's easier to grade 12 projects than 36. Most teachers I know assign group work because it's easier for them to stay on top of, especially if it's a bigger assignment or class in general.

  • @fredhasopinions
    @fredhasopinions Před 7 měsíci +216

    To be fair, you can write your essay the night before and NOT steal anyone’s topic and still get an A on it if you just panic hard enough lol

    • @kkderobst
      @kkderobst  Před 7 měsíci +52

      nah man we had to cite every source, and have both sources from academic books and online resources from jstor. Aint no way they coulda done it like that

    • @abigailrandall7520
      @abigailrandall7520 Před 7 měsíci +29

      @@kkderobstI wrote several research papers the night it was due and got A’s. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @amiatanamedmichelle5539
      @amiatanamedmichelle5539 Před 7 měsíci +14

      @@kkderobstMost if not all of my research papers during my time in college were written if not the night before then still in a single night. Never got below an A. Although my topics were automotive systems and not art related, that might’ve made it easier as there was only one true source material the manufacturer

    • @smallworldadventures1985
      @smallworldadventures1985 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I got my degree this way. I was busy with work, life, and school. It got done by the due date, but not on a conventional schedule.

    • @Rosa-kd2cl
      @Rosa-kd2cl Před 2 dny

      @@kkderobstI’ve written multiple research essays hours before they were due and gotten As in them. The power of panic and desperation lol.

  • @r8chlletters
    @r8chlletters Před 6 měsíci +4

    Sounds like an adult education school. They often rely on group work as their students are full time workers and they believe it encourages team building and leadership. Instead it sabotages your standing at the top of the graduating class and creates enormous stress. Often the work falls on the only person who cares about personal high performance. I always think it’s good to find the instructor before enrolling and ask specifically about what, if any, group projects occur and what weight is granted to those projects. Then I ask about how I can offset poor performance of others by doing extra projects. The crazy part is how much we are all paying for this sort of punishment.

  • @eli_2002
    @eli_2002 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I procrastinate for individual projects but NEVER a group one. For group projects, I always submit my part as early as possible so that the leader of the group isn't pressured at the last minute.

  • @MisterNiles
    @MisterNiles Před 7 měsíci +119

    When I first scrolled to this I was distracted and I thought you said something about "academic horses".
    I suddenly became very interested. I was slightly disappointed that this wan't about equine scholars, but I loved the painting.

    • @kkderobst
      @kkderobst  Před 7 měsíci +48

      sadly i went to college for illustration and not equine education. Maybe ill do my masters in that

  • @Inteyvats
    @Inteyvats Před 7 měsíci +222

    Kudos to the guy for not getting completely in trouble, my art school would have said “aha- yeah academic dishonesty isn’t tolerated here.”

    • @frododododo
      @frododododo Před 6 měsíci

      What's a sophomore-junior junior-senior? I'm confused

  • @Opalline14
    @Opalline14 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Group projects were a special kind of disaster for me.
    I once got grouped with the 3 worst behaved kids in the class for an earthquake building project. The goal was to build a 4-story model of a building from popsicle sticks. None of them showed up, and I spent 2 lunch periods to build the entire thing on my own. Presentation day comes, and my building survives the shock test. I ask to keep my creation since I was the one who made it. They laughed in my face, and one of them took the building and sat on it. The teacher already knew what was going on, and issued a surprise pop quiz that would be the real grade for the project. They all got a big fat 0, while I scored myself an A.
    The second major group project disaster was in a photography class. Our group project involved students from another country. We were put in groups of 4 (2 from our class and 2 from theirs per group). This project was a very strict tradition for my professor. So you can imagine how much harder it got when the class we were working with cancelled the project on their end and ghosted all of us without saying anything. We all would have failed his class if he hadn't decided to shorten the project/make it individual last minute.

  • @Hilo._popitnix
    @Hilo._popitnix Před 3 dny +2

    One time in art class we had this group project it consisted of 4 people including me yk what I did? Everything 2 people in my group were fighting the whole time and the other person was talking with her friends! I did the whole art project by myself with the help of a friend who just colored a bit of the background. I told the teacher no one helped me except my friend and he goes “if no one helped you then they get no credit because they didn’t do any work” was very satisfied with that answer and glad they got what they deserved!

  • @tarlochansingh620
    @tarlochansingh620 Před 7 měsíci +109

    Girl started a painter's villain arc

    • @cursed_cats5710
      @cursed_cats5710 Před 6 měsíci +7

      She got into art school so it's fine

    • @bammythegreat
      @bammythegreat Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@cursed_cats5710 nah bro i did a double take 💀

    • @TheJdrizle
      @TheJdrizle Před 6 měsíci +4

      This is a dangerous road, I remember what happened the last time the world had a major painter villain

  • @GalacticPossum
    @GalacticPossum Před 7 měsíci +47

    I was in a four person group and two people kept promising they were doing their part, but didn't give us anything. Us other two let the professor know and his response was, "You're still sharing grade, work it out." They never gave us anything, and despite us adding to be graded on our half, we got a point above failing. The other two members didn't suffer because THEY WERE PROFESSORS. WHO WERE AUDITING.

    • @DustyMusician
      @DustyMusician Před 7 měsíci +15

      Aw hell naw they set you up!

    • @Daelyah
      @Daelyah Před 7 měsíci +8

      I would've made some noise for their superiors to hear.

    • @JulesJuno737
      @JulesJuno737 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Dept chair time. I'd even go back once I graduated. Nnnnnah.

  • @julieannelovesbooks
    @julieannelovesbooks Před 6 měsíci +2

    I did get an A on an essay that I wrote less than 12 hours before the deadline. I started writing it at like 3am. Not only did I get an A, I was the only one who got a passing mark for that essay. We started the year with 26 students in my class, finished the year with only 10, of which only 4 met the requirements to pass to the next year. What did I learn? To never ever do that again because my god I was in tears when I was done writing that essay. What else did I learn? People are salty when they can’t complain to the professor saying ‘but the assignment was unfair, no one got a passing mark’. You will be hated by everyone for the rest of the year.

  • @KoreWonder
    @KoreWonder Před 2 měsíci +2

    I had the same thing happen to me once - the person who went before me started my part of the presentation and I was so confused. I talked to the professor afterwards and it was ultimately fine but I was so annoyed.

  • @goblinking1020
    @goblinking1020 Před 7 měsíci +120

    A- is much better than a shitty partner taking all the credit, proud of you for standing your ground

  • @scrotasackoforyx
    @scrotasackoforyx Před 7 měsíci +26

    Had this scenario with a person in my group who did nothing. Told the prof at the end of my lecture they did nothing to contribute, he told me it was to late and that the evidence of them not contributing was not enough. He also told me to learn from what I did and do the presentation better…

    • @sorazon
      @sorazon Před 5 měsíci

      Your prof sounds kinda like a dick tbh

  • @HaleThePanda
    @HaleThePanda Před 6 měsíci +1

    I remember this happening to me and some others in my CAD class when I went to college. I was majoring in Fashion Design and my CAD class was partnering up with a CAD class in a college in Mexico. Me and a few of my classmates were paired with a few students from that class and we were tasked with creating a collection that incorporated influences from both locations. My classmates and I busted our asses with little to no communication and contribution from the other class (not because of a language barrier, they just weren't talking to us) and when it came time to present our project, they used our work and lazily put it together to use it as theirs. This was apparently an issue with everyones' groups in the class and needless to say, I and everyone in my class was upset about it. Our teacher ended confronting their teacher about it and I think they got reprimanded for it.

  • @rachelpetrilli3477
    @rachelpetrilli3477 Před 6 dny +1

    Imagine putting a graded scale on creativity

  • @dammyjodger1
    @dammyjodger1 Před 7 měsíci +24

    The twist being "Sophomore Junior Junior Senior" has the same energy as "man door hand hook car door".

    • @ErroneusEP
      @ErroneusEP Před 5 měsíci +4

      Wait what does this mean? 😂

    • @saraparker184
      @saraparker184 Před 3 měsíci

      no entiendo

    • @WhiteWolf-lm7gj
      @WhiteWolf-lm7gj Před měsícem

      ​@@ErroneusEPIt's an old joke about those poorly written internet stories, I forget exactly how it goes but you can definitely look it up

    • @likemossIgrowonyou
      @likemossIgrowonyou Před 7 dny

      It's a tumblrisim for a common scary story trope. "The car broke down! There's a man outside! He's got a hook for a hand!" That sort of thing. ​@@ErroneusEP

  • @imdani4997
    @imdani4997 Před 7 měsíci +43

    Which is why it would be the best to grade the students individually even in group projects. Had some projects like that. I'm not the most hardworking but still do my job type of person and I think that is the best. No pressure that my performance would affect the group either. Thankfully even the laziest members in my groups never steal someone's point. Guess some peope have no shame

  • @sopwerdna
    @sopwerdna Před 6 měsíci +2

    Now I'm a serial procrastinator... but never for a group project or something that affects anyone else! that's just obnoxious

  • @artcatastrophe1579
    @artcatastrophe1579 Před 6 měsíci +1

    At art school I had a video/audio group project for a communications class and we had WEEKS of time to work on it. I could not get these people together. It was getting so close to the due date and I was freaking out. We finally pick a date and time to meet up and ONLY ONE OF MY PARTNERS SHOWED UP. And she was a fashion major while I was a dramatic writing major and we were trying to write a script and I could tell she really wanted to help but didn’t know how so I don’t mind. She was definitely doing something. Turns out the other three had scheduled other things on our meeting date like, ya know, going on an effing hike, helping on short film you actually have nothing to do with, GETTING BLOOD DRAWN- none of which was mentioned ever in advance. Once we had the script we had to all be together to film it. Like there was no other option we had to get all of us in one place at the same time for at least an hour. THE DAY BEFORE THE PROJECT WAS DUE I finally get all of these people together. We’re recording lines but even when they messed up they didn’t want to re-record so that they could get it done with quickly. I was left to edit it all together. Because it was so last minute I spent a solid eight hours straight editing this thing with one twenty minute break so I could eat before the cafeteria closed. I actually wanted to cry and I rarely cry. We presented it the next day and I explained the situation to my prof but I don’t think she did anything. We got a B because the audio quality was shit and it didn’t sound like we knew our lines cause, well, my partners didn’t let us re-record shit. I cannot stand group projects.

  • @wiggilytaco7570
    @wiggilytaco7570 Před 7 měsíci +145

    This is why I used the Google Doc format for the every project. Google doc lets multiple people use any essay and everyone can even choose what color to represent themselves. Then on the Google doc everyone write what their task is and what each deadline for each task is. Most projects are due in 3 months more or less so I make deadlines for each step. I always started these right away so I wouldn’t be overwhelmed later on. Usually never have an issue with these and everyone’s email is connected so no one can deny their access and participation. The only issue are older adults who are not tech savvy. They usually just write things in pen and paper and I take a photo and add it to google doc. People usually like stuff like this because it means they have a guide and specific expectations. Lazy people get noticed with proof for not contributing and it WILL be brought up with the professor. I don’t play. I take myself too seriously because I need to get crossfaded once a week. I don’t got time to do someone else’s work 🍻

  • @rebeccameyer6612
    @rebeccameyer6612 Před 7 měsíci +237

    My art school actually had no gen eds. Which was nice, but then you only get a Associates for 4 years.
    But it let me concentrate on what I wanted to.

    • @HannahIrene719
      @HannahIrene719 Před 7 měsíci +15

      That sucks. There's a reason there are required classes. Having a well rounded education is important.

    • @rebeccameyer6612
      @rebeccameyer6612 Před 7 měsíci +17

      @@HannahIrene719 while I agree with you. That was the only reason I went to college at all.
      I would have failed with Gen Ed's. So I picked it specifically because it didn't have them.

    • @_Oof_
      @_Oof_ Před 7 měsíci +18

      ​@@HannahIrene719The point of further education should be to go inyo depth of a certain subject. College isn't legally required so they shouldn't _make_ you take any classes. That's what primary school is for. They probably just force it because you pay more money that way.

    • @Orynae
      @Orynae Před 7 měsíci +22

      ​@@HannahIrene719 meh, imo your education should be well-rounded enough by the end of high school. Then in college (which not everyone needs to go to btw) you can go more in depth in a specific field. I don't think gen ed classes are _bad,_ and it can be fun to take some very random classes, but I don't think it's some moral failing to specialize after high school, and with the price you pay for tuition it's annoying that some required classes are completely irrelevant.

    • @aprisiarene697
      @aprisiarene697 Před 7 měsíci

      Hii, do you know what kind of paint she used? I would like to know 😅

  • @alenwatson3430
    @alenwatson3430 Před 6 hodinami +1

    Awesome testimony brother i am glad that u are saved

  • @Rainears129
    @Rainears129 Před 6 měsíci +3

    As someone who could actually write essays the day before and get A's on them, I would not have done that on projects. I'll dick around with my own grades, but I would not do that to others.

  • @monakrumnow8766
    @monakrumnow8766 Před 7 měsíci +417

    In Germany we got this wonderful saying to represent the people that don't do shit in a team. You gotta love the sarcastic aggressiveness.
    TEAM
    T.oll
    E.in
    A.nderer
    M.achts
    (Basically the starting letters of TEAM align with the words meaning "Great, someone else is dong it!"😅)

    • @kimberlyrobinson3992
      @kimberlyrobinson3992 Před 7 měsíci +21

      Yeah…I’m totally stealing that expression, too.

    • @seraphywang4638
      @seraphywang4638 Před 7 měsíci +39

      I love that the germans always have a aggressive sarcastic term for anything and everything. Makes the kanguage really fun

    • @soude85
      @soude85 Před 7 měsíci +19

      @@seraphywang4638 The language of Schadenfreude…😂

    • @kittycake713
      @kittycake713 Před 7 měsíci

      That is amazing

  • @milesdoesfimstuff
    @milesdoesfimstuff Před 7 měsíci +25

    Yes group projects suck, I grew so used to them it’s normal for me to just do all the work instinctly. It always starts with the work split pretty equally, but in the end you have to do it if you don’t want to hand in a broken and messy result.
    We had a presentation where this one guy had two slides. I had five or somth. And he proceeded to first do his slides the day before we were supposed to present, not even answering the questions for the slides. At the same time he refused any help to actually fix it.
    Oh and also it’s even worse when the teacher evaluates your grade in your group. I had a programming task where we had to teach the class, and me and this one guy were the only ones teaching or engaging in any way. (And it’s not even easy for me to do such a thing, I’m neither social or a loud talker, and eye-contact is shit for me, so it was hard for me just to do the task.k) Bc of that the other ppl didn’t put in any effort, I got a way worse grade. It’s like some teachers expect us to know mind-control

  • @CarltonSmith45
    @CarltonSmith45 Před 6 měsíci +2

    They aren't wrong, but are so insufferably smug I don't feel bad for em.

  • @claracatlady9844
    @claracatlady9844 Před 15 dny +1

    And that’s why my school always gave individual grades for each team member
    And my Uni only does group work for low credit pass/fail units.

  • @MistyLunaLotus
    @MistyLunaLotus Před 7 měsíci +20

    Lucky for me my teacher recognized who did most of the work cause I made sure to know the answer to most of their questions. I was always the one stuck doing most of the work in a project but I didn't care about being a tattletale, I cared about my own work and being treated fairly so I'd tell the teacher straight up, in front of the perpetrators too since most projects are in-class group work. That sure moved their butts ;)

  • @spicybeantofu
    @spicybeantofu Před 7 měsíci +14

    I'm the person in the group project who gets ignored given no tasks and forgotten about. Now when I do work I finish it first day. I hate last minute work.

  • @lichiehrb
    @lichiehrb Před měsícem +1

    I had a "best friend" do this with a lot of my work and ideas back in highschool. She still has it on her official LinkedIn as well. Almost makes me laugh she was that pathetic she had to do that. These people are fakes. Karma gets them. I love your freaking work❤❤❤

  • @dudewhy6953
    @dudewhy6953 Před 8 hodinami

    “Before I watch ‘Slow Torture Puke Chamber’ I need pizza rolls!” 🤣 you got your priorities straight I’ll give you that.

  • @irishpieceoftrash
    @irishpieceoftrash Před 7 měsíci +10

    This is is why I'm so glad that all my college tutors not only took note of who was doing which part in a chosen group topic beforehand but they also asked for our work to be printed out and put on a name labelled pendrive too.
    They made it clear on every group project that they would grade everyone in the group seperately based on how well each of us did our part.
    We were never expected to do anymore than our fair share, but if we did then we got extra credit while anyone who didn't pull their weight had to do their bit again plus present it to the class by themselves.
    So you basically got two chances and if you didn't do it then you got a bad mark, simple as that.

  • @delfyinc
    @delfyinc Před 7 měsíci +9

    I had a teacher who always made 25% of group project grades based on how much work your group said you did. We'd fill in a worksheet saying what specifically we did and writing what percent our teammates did. It was a good incentive for everyone to do the work, and made it easy for her to figure out who was lying about their contributions.

  • @dawnh157
    @dawnh157 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I can't believe they did that. Good for you tho for telling the teacher. Love the art is stunning

  • @blackyonbi
    @blackyonbi Před 9 hodinami

    Group projects are so annoying.
    You either get one teammate that wants to do things right and the other half are mediocre manchildren who are just there for the sake pf being there.

  • @blackmark2899
    @blackmark2899 Před 7 měsíci +124

    Yeah I ran into the same kind of problem. I did the work, all the work because I didn't trust any of them. I wasn't the team lead aka the person they listened to when I told them needed to work on it, and they really didn't set up a meeting time for it. So I emailed the professor, showed what I had, told her the situation, and said that if they attempted to piggyback off of my work I will escalate the situation.
    I guess the professor emailed or spoke to the rest of the group and issued a warning or something because after that suddenly they wanted to meet up and do the work.

    • @LargeMikel
      @LargeMikel Před 4 měsíci +4

      "I did all the work because I didn't trust any of them." "I warned the professor they might try to piggyback the work I wouldn't let them do because I didn't trust any of them." Sounds like you might be the one who's difficult to work with, no? Or was there some good, specific reason you didn't trust them? You worded things in a way that puts you in a questionable light.

    • @blackmark2899
      @blackmark2899 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@LargeMikel looks like you either didn't read or only read what you wanted. Reread the middle parts that you omitted from your "quotes" where I tried to get them to work on the project together.

    • @LargeMikel
      @LargeMikel Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@blackmark2899 it was a bit vague, so thanks for clarifying.

    • @thechameleon2636
      @thechameleon2636 Před 4 měsíci

      Tbf you kinda sound like a dick…you should’ve just asked to do the project separately

  • @phoenixfeathers4128
    @phoenixfeathers4128 Před 7 měsíci +242

    I hate it when people don’t do their part! Every group project I have ever been a part of has ended with me doing at least 90% of the grade and the others presenting the wrong slides because they didn’t do shit. I actually prefer to work completely alone because I know I’m more reliable

    • @dayan5454
      @dayan5454 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I think not doing your part is horrible, but it can have reasons behind it, and a good professor knows this could happen and will grade a group project individually. but stealling your colleagues topics???!! that's pure evil.

    • @delsol__
      @delsol__ Před 6 měsíci +4

      honestly my grades are usually good so if i’m stuck with a group who expects me to do all the work, i don’t do jack shit and take the bad grade because it won’t effect me much. i’m just that petty

    • @phoenixfeathers4128
      @phoenixfeathers4128 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@delsol__ I FULLY accept being petty at least once in a while

    • @duckalot
      @duckalot Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@dayan5454 it can have reasons when someone doesn't do their part, but the least they can do is communicate their reasons to their group 😭 since they'd affect others than themself

    • @kirakishoushirobara2898
      @kirakishoushirobara2898 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@duckalot FR I remember back in college everyone hated me because I was the only one trying to get the project done and nobody would communicate. Then they jumped on me calling me bossy and saying they had been going through so much the day before the project was due. I was too. Yet I was still sleeping 4 hours everyday just to get my part of the project done and not screw my teammates and they believe they're the only ones who have it hard in life? Everyone has stuff going on, that was not an excuse to simply disappear the entire semester until the day before the project is due. Oh boy those guys are probably not ready for the harsh reality outside of school when you have work to get done regardless of your personal problems 🙄

  • @Rainestormies
    @Rainestormies Před 8 dny

    I got chills and anger from this- They have the guts to use my design and said they did it all by themselves infront of me

  • @tidela4714
    @tidela4714 Před 4 dny +1

    As someone who actually can write an essay in less than a day (English Major), I would NEVER risk that skill on a group project.

  • @TheYellowGoggles
    @TheYellowGoggles Před 7 měsíci +33

    Oh I HATED group projects. Getting everyone into the same room just to talk about it was a nightmare. Eventually I just did my part/kept my notes to myself and let the other people look like idiots.

    • @aquss33
      @aquss33 Před 6 měsíci +1

      When we had group projects in high school, we could choose the people we wanted to work with, so that went pretty well most of the time. But, when we were assigned random teammates, problems would often arise. I was once in a group with one of my friends (they were groups of two, I hate groups of 2), and that friend knew literally nothing about classical music, I also know close to nothing, but he had an especially tiny knowledge of it, on the day of the presentation he asked me about a guy named: "Beet - Hoven", that's how he pronounced it, yes, he was the topic of our presentation... Another time, I had to do a physics paper about an experiment we did with springs, I was doing it with the most under qualified person in existence, I do not think she ever got more than 1 or 2 point on any physics exam... I wrote the entire paper, spent 2 hours explaining how to draw an Fg vector (Force caused by mass being accelerated by gravity), it was like explaining it to a 5 year old. Other times, I get good teammates and we can work well together like when we had to present Pneumonia, that was certainly very fun.

    • @kirakishoushirobara2898
      @kirakishoushirobara2898 Před 6 měsíci

      I had a professor in college who made us responsible for the students who didn't do their part of the project. So if one did poorly or didn't do shit, the rest had their grade lowered as well. You were screwed.

  • @Natsunoyo2
    @Natsunoyo2 Před 7 měsíci +14

    You don't understand how much rage that gives me

  • @willcomeback11
    @willcomeback11 Před dnem

    Story aside, THAT ART IS FANTASTIC

  • @practicalitv
    @practicalitv Před dnem +1

    Sounds like you had a competent professor, I told my teacher once that my entire group wouldn't do anything for the project and he told me "it's a group grade so someone has to cover for them" and he actually gave me a C. Would've been much lower, but I did a whole bunch of the work before realizing my group was never going to do their part