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LS1 SWAP - HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? VH COMMODORE LS1 CONVERSION - PART 14
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2019
- The final installment of the series. Howard and Matt have finished swapping a stock LS1 into their VH Holden Commodore.
So how much did it all cost?
Should you do it?
Wrecker or donor car?
These questions answered plus a summary of all parts and installs from the build.
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Great video, good to see someone actually telling people how much a project vehicle can cost! Thank you. Good vid!
Best bit is: quality time spent with your father! Trust me on this.
Ripper vid mate - glad you are enjoying it!
Thanks mate, enjoying it!
I used a high pressure power steering line from a vt - vz ls1 just screwed it in to the rack and gave it a slight bend
Well presented
Great video and info mate, thanks. 👍👍
Malaga is just down the road from me!!! Good vid mate , no nonsense . I was interested in doing a project with a LS3 6.2 and this has given me half a clue as to how much . Cheers from Mirrabooka!
Happy I can shed some light on the matter. I'd love an LS3, maybe later on!
Great help. Thanks heaps!!
Picked up a worked ls1 and built 4l65e auto for 3500. Winning.
Great video 👌
Very cool I am doing a similar build myself soon so this is very useful information. Mine will probably cost a little bit more because I want to get it engineered for the street but that is probably like 2.5-3k.
Good luck with the build!
good onya, well done
awsome info top stuff
Hi bud. Great series of vids👍
What fuel lines did you get?ptfe? How have the ebay lines and fittings held up?
Terrific wrap up guys.
Proper V8 sound in the best Commodore getting caned on the tarmac.🤟
Thanks very much! Yes I agree, love the new rumble
Just discovered recently there's some ways around buying a full conversion kit and cutting tabs off the rack mounts and moving it over the guys at full boost cover that in the Barra vs build. I think you could drop a few g with a bit of research in to doing the harness yourself and the rack mods I mentioned. Good video though fellas well done
Yeah definitely a few different ways to do this conversion. Next time I'd probably tackle the harness myself, very time consuming though! I'll check out the VS build, thanks
Any good tutorials on harness making been quoted $1200
Interesting, but be a lot more 4 years later, cheers Graham
Hey mate, neat build? How you go about brakes ??
mate.. tough car..and with your dad's a real treat.. great work..another Aussie car back on the road..
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Hi any chance can we speak about cooling system and oil cooling. Cheers
I want it 😁
Wish a ls1 was 1.8k and a t56 was 1.5k still, 4k for a stock ls1, 3-4k for a t56 now 😢
Crazy prices now
Hello, I’m doing an LS one conversion into a VL with a 4L 60 transmission just wanting to know if tunnel modifications are required to fit the 4L 60
Good stuff Matt, is the wheel and axle flange ok after that gutter hit? I'm slowly collecting my conversion parts now
Thanks. Wasn't any other damage apart from the tyre coming off! Lucky!
What diff set up are you running?
Just FYI for engineering in vic I’ve been quoted that all you need is bigger front rotors, can still be drum rear end. Anti pollution needs to be in etc. looking at 2-2.5k for that
Don’t forget exhaust noise, ride height, calibrated gauges, proper clearances around engine and gear box, yes bigger brakes but must be matching booster and master, other wise will need a day at a track for testing, retractable lap/sash belts are also needed even on pre retractable days. I got my hg engineered with ls2, 6l80, 9 inch, coil overs, 4 link, chassis brace, power rack and piñon and ford territory brakes all round for $850 4 years ago. All self fabricated but they don’t need to know that 🤫
So drum brakes are all good ???
@@davidtyrrell9368 can you do all modifications and then get it engineer or is there a process before start of works
Good video. That must be funny to drive good power to weight ratio
so glad I stumbled upon this video! I’ve got a VB in the process of putting a 5L 304 in but can’t wait to upgrade to an LS, im in too deep with the 304 now.. haha . When I realised you were from Perth too I loved it ! Great video mate will have to go back and watch your other ones
Haha you'll have to stick with the 304 for now then! Shame as the LS is far easier and cheaper to make power with
I'd still pick what you have mate the 304 over a ls1 for a start if it's one of the first ls1 that came to Australia they had a few problems but the only one I can remember was massive oil consumption problem the engines had don't get me wrong this bloke has done a brilliant job I don't think you could have done it any cheaper than this you should get a harrop supercharger for your injected 304 mate harrop just realised one about 18months ago Google it got massive amount of power out of the 5.0 the motor had the best of everything from what I can recall and got 608kw out of it bloody impressive if you ask me out of a dinosaur engine
@Mark Perkins yuck.
Chair sniffer@@murrijuana2842
1st episode I’ve seen but I got a question did you do anything to the breaks suspension drive train and diff ect ect ?
Btw great content can’t wait to watch i other episodes
Just bigger brakes really. Some decent struts with low springs. Thanks for watching!
Hey matt if youre looking for brake upgrades i went vt calipers rotors and booster. PBR sell a kit or you can source your own. Rear breaks your best bet is either a vl rear disk diff or vn but they're slightly wider.
As for suspension don't waste your time it's like polishing a turd. I spent over 2k on new everything only for it to feel worse than a stock silvia/skyline
@@jamiehunt8016 I was running the VT callipers for a while. Now I've upgraded to AP callipers 😊👌
Hey mate do you get any fuel smell with that fuel line? I’m presuming it’s the $95 maxpeedingrods 5m kit of eBay I’m keen to get some but don’t want fuel smell or failure which obviously you haven’t had
You have to make sure that any line that you use is ethanol compliant if going e85.
Hi,
Are you using the factory ecu with the torque app?
Yes - with an OBD-II bluetooth adapter. Can get coolant temp, revs, speed (gps) and a few other things. No oil readings though.
What is the OTR
Nice . 😎🤙✌😁
Did you need to make any adjustments to the tunnel? Or did the T56 fit straight in?
A few good hits with a hammer was all that was needed!
@@MarslandMotorsport awesome cheers! Got a vh that im building at the moment aswell
the steering rack leaks like a siv
Is there any reason why you didnt use the VL kframe
What's the conversion kit link can't find it
Google muscle garage or cai industries or Castlemaine rod shop
Hi my VL is factory 304, I'm looking at LS1 swapping I noticed you mentioned I'd need a K frame from VN-VS.. can I not retain the original k frame ?
😊the K fraim from a V L V8 is the same as a V N _VS ,the power head on the steering rack is off set different to a V N you need to change it with the power head pips from a VN ,and you will be good to go ,
And if you looking for an break up grade ,try VT brake rotors and calipers with the hub up grade kit ,then a 1 inch master cylinder,either early Commodore ,witch your car should have std ,,Or you can find a Vs power booster and modify a VT master cylinder ,you need to make the push rod hole a little deeper the same as astd VS type master cylinder ,you should have discs on the rear std with car ,I run this system on a vs wagon for 15 years worked well ,One other thing you need adopters for the VT master cylinder to the VL brake lines at the master cylinder ,that's if you don't have ball socket ends on the brake lines.
did you spray paint the whole engine bay with spray cans?
Yep. Don't have a compressor or spray equipment
Good job mate looks hot. Would like to do this to my vs HSV Clubsport with a 5litlre lb9 motor. .
Yes had another mate just upgrade his vp 5l to ls1. He's loving it.
Now he has to find the money for all the oil?
Why's that
is that legal to have exhaust exiting under left hand door in NSW must be behind back wheel
Probably a track car, last I read in NSW it had to exit at least 500mm from rearmost door, Ute would be drivers door
Stop bending at the knee for government over regulations.
@@murrijuana2842 its guys like you that cause problems for others the law is the law you cannot fight the regulations or government
What did you do to combat the LS1 piston slap ?
Nothing, didn't know it was a problem
That was the first ones that came out in vt and they recalled them to rectify
I think our one is a little later so should be ok. Else it may have been fixed already!
And you would have done a camshaft and spring upgrade before you put the motor in instead of having to pull the motor again in 6 months when you realize you should have cammed it in the first place.
Yep pretty much. Should have done a cam! Always need more power!
@@MarslandMotorsport HaHa yep too true nice swap though with all the costings thanks for posting.
@@AndrewMitchell001 thanks for watching!
Can anyone reccomend anyone to do an LS swap drive in drive out everything included on a vl?
Champions
Why do you need the VN K frame?
The vh K frame is fine if you don't want to run power steering, if you do than it is better to go later modal K frame and Power steering it is a bit better to work with than the early models P Steering .
@@bobbritten5673 Is that because of the steering knuckle and hydraulic lines and the extractor clearance problems? I want to build a turboed LS drivetrain for mine and replace the injected 355 so I won't have the runners heading down there, would the VH k frame still be a problem? I guess this is why a lot of people run the VL non powersteering racks. I would like to keep the power steering though, they are not overly light and convenient.
@@kingcosworth2643 yes for one ,if you are go to run the headers in a different place ,that vh frame will do the job ok with everything else ,
@@kingcosworth2643 vh still has the same problem, if you use std steering it is ok ,But with power steering not much room , VL and VN have a smaller power head ,VN and vh bolt up different ,this is why you might have to use a VN cross member and power steering this will connect to the original steering,,the pipe system is different to VK so you have to get VN V8 type pipes .
I’ve got a VYSeries2 I tonner with a Factory Ls1 👍⁉️⁉️✅✅✅✅
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Please. You are obviously a true real shop.
98 percent of shop's will charge you 5 times that amount and I'm not joking.
old mate saved heaps on a haircut
more money for conversion parts hahah
@@MarslandMotorsport all good mate, good job documenting the conversion
Did the WRX seats fit straight in or did you have to get aftermarket seat rails?
Just drilled a couple extra holes in the floor
@@MarslandMotorsport thanks mate
sounds like a huge headache that will be an absolute nightmare
leigh Hawkett Yea pretty much every installation project on cars becomes a headache and financial strain. It’s almost always worth it in the end though :) I guess you just have to have the right frame of mind to do it
Yeah, it's a waste of money.
That VU Ute would go for $60k in the US complete, $45k if it wasn't running.
Mike Cronis Haha nowhere near. Look up Left Hand Utes. You can get a 2017 VF SS Ute for about that price. A VU Ute is nearly 20 years old, you’d probably get 5k for it in the U.S if it was running.
2022 = $20,000 hahaha
Yeah I hear ya!
Brakes?, Diff? Sump?, Engineers requirement? , add a few more thousand to the bill.
Sump fits fine and the others weren't necessary for this build luckily. Otherwise yes more $$ again. A few things I left out in hindsight
This video hasn't aged well... no way you'd get a motor and gearbox for that these days
Covid tax making everything car related go up!
Dutton and Frydenburger want to know if there is a discount for cash?
Stop the cash ban legislation being rammed through senate.
And wtf has that have to do.with this footage??. Absolutely nothing. So stfu troll
That exhaust is illegal. Since the pipes or exits are not after the most back side windows . Why bother with a v8 build is a waste of cash . My e30 BMW will kill this thing in most forms .
mr323i, You do realize that this is track car right?.
How many people have died from a side exit exhaust?