$610 Lens vs $4500: Can You Even Tell?
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Usually, the lens is more important than the camera. You'll see a bigger difference with a really nice lens vs a budget one, but not much difference between a few generations of cameras. But that's not always the case. I tried expenses lenses like the Olympus 300mm f4 pro and Leica 200mm f2.8 on the EM1 III, and because of their terrible slow mo, the footage looked cheap. But using the Panasonic GH6 with the super cheap Olympus 75-300mm f4.8-6.7, you still get amazing shots.
I took the GH6 out with the 75-300mm, the Leica 50-200mm f2.8-4, and the 200mm f2.8 prime to see what the difference really was.
If you buy today's gear through my affiliate links, you'll be so prepared for local squirrel and duck footage, it's not even funny. Sorry for some out of focus shots, makes it hard to do side by sides lol. Panasonic linear focus is unusable if set too sensitive, it just jumps all over the place.
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If you buy today's gear through my affiliate links, you'll be so prepared for local squirrel and duck footage, it's not even funny. Sorry for some out of focus shots, makes it hard to do side by sides lol. That's why I included some controlled studio shots. Panasonic's linear focus is unusable if set too sensitive, it just jumps all over the place.
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Possible to get the same quality camera that can zoom as good at the p900 with one lense but change the lens and rival an xt4 or something?
Meanwhile Fuji's AF settings menu seem to do nothing when I adjust the sensitivity and speed. Either that or I'm doing it wrong.
does the TC for the 200 work in the 50-200?
A few weeks ago I was like "what kind of strange CZcamsr is this" but then I got sucked in, finally realizing I was already hooked.
Haha been there
I was like "who's this weird homeless guy in my recommend" now I'm weird and homeless but at least I have a camera now
Hahaha. Welcome to the club.:)
Same here!
Welcome to the toneh world
I see a huge iQ difference between the 300 f4, Leica 100-400 and OLY 75-300, especially for photos. For video the biggest problem is in the stabilization and in the Camera used in conjunction with the lens (OLY+OLY or Pana+ Pana). But the discussion about M43 being dead as a system ends precisely with the use of super tele lenses. A Smartphone is not capable of photographing Wildlife using super teles. The same applies to Macro. Anyone who likes to photograph wildlife and macro, but enjoys hiking, climbing and adventure, where photography is an important part of the adventure, but not necessarily the end goal, the M43 system is perfect and lets you choose lenses like this formidable 75-300 (there could be a weather sealed version). Those who, still in the M43 universe, want to make professional level images can also use alternatives like the 200 f2.8, 300f4 and 150-400f4.5! Long live the M43 system! I have no intention or interest in carrying bazookas through the forests or on my climbs!! For my professional work Real Estate, Food and small web videos, the M43 is also perfect! Cheaper, robust, capable, weather sealed…. Of course other photographers will find on FF or MF the best equipment, more suitable for the job they do. Comparisons are pointless. Different tools for different purposes!
I look forward to your GH6 vs A7SIII comparison, even though both cameras are out of my budget
The best thing about these videos is that, despite there is already a title, you will have no fucking idea what kind of journey he will take you to.
Robin Wong must be proud of you for this video
I've always said that 75-300 is decent. I got mine for about 100 dollars- it even came with mushrooms growing inside, an added bonus, but it still looks great. Don't really care about shooting wildlife that has already been 1000s of times. Still, I'd (and did) take the 75-300 traveling anywhere... not those other lenses you mentioned, include the Panasonic 100-300 which is still heavier and lacks 25mm on the wide end (which can be a big deal).
I've had the Panasonic 100-300 II for awhile and could not be happier with the quality and reach for the price. Rock solid lens.
DIMINISHING RETURNS: It's like an inverse square law of price/quality.. If you've got 4 levels of price $100, $250, $500 and $3000 the jump in quality from 100 to 250 is probably like 100%, the jump to 500 maybe 25-50% and the jump to 3000 is probably like 5 - 10%.
Great video as always! It would be good to see a "budget lens" real world comparison from you - the oly 75-300 vs the pany 100-300 mkii, especially stab since on paper the pany has the dual stab advantage.
These videos have been a big help. I just bought a Panasonic 45-200 for my G9 for $105.00 U.S. I know it’s not as good as the Leicas but the Panasonic lenses haven’t let me down. Hopefully it’s good enough for the occasional wildlife and sports but if not I’m only out 100 bucks. This is why I love micro four thirds.
Changing lenses sucks. I keep Panasonic 100-300 on LUMIX G95 just to quickly get a bird. I keep 14-140 on G9 for everything else.
I have to say this video actually had some context
I come here for the photography jokes
Leica 200mm at 1422g? Those are rookie numbers. My Sigma 120-300 2.8 is 3000g. And for 1$ per gram, an absolute bargain. I also got the deal of the century on it.
Need Casey to get the sigma 200-500 2.8 and try that handheld RPG launcher lens (35 lb/15000 kg)
Great video. I have the 50-200 and 1.4 tele. I must admit, it is great for travelling. Throw that setup in a sling bag, along with the Leica 9mm. Hard to beat that setup. For some low light scenarios, I can see how the 200mm prime would be magical. I have almost bought it a dozen times. Maybe I will make that decision after the Full Frame comparison.
Only the most highly demanding pixel peepers would sneer at the 75-300. And that's for photography. Differences are much less visible in live video. The amateur scrubs watching this channel should get what they can afford, not chase bragging rights.
The panasonic 100-300 can be had even cheaper for us m43 loser scrubs
Your sense of humor cracks me up. Great work!
4K 60p doesn't make any sense on that camera. Use 5.7K 60p instead. It is sharper and you can crop tighter.
In Georgia you will get enough money for 70-300 as dish washer only after 3 month of hard work... barely... if you live under the bridge and without food... may be... 200$ is somewhat ok salary here... (for some people it is even canadian 200$...)...oh, if you are lucky to find any + 18% tax on top... oh boi, i guess 1 more month of washing toilets, but atleast i can document it in the future with glorious 70-300, if my old camera can handle ISO in such dark lit toilete room...
This comment is gold my bro
Waiting with bated breath for that comparison between gh6 and a7Siii.
I'm so glad that you have joined the madness of wildlife/birding!
If you know a spot or area where a Kingfisher is, you can build an "artificial" branch, so you can setup a good photo!
A hide or something might be good (if the bird is a bit skittish).
Can take a while but if the branch looks good, the bird will most likely check it out!
You are creepier than Epstein
@@unbroken1010 Interesting reply on a Kingfisher setup. But fair play to you!
If you don't compare the results side by side (and for 99.9% of the World's population this is even true if you do compare them side by side), you won't see any difference between those lenses - unless you start to not watch the pictures anymore, but pixel peep on very small details, or you watch it on a multi-meter large screen and approach it so you can't see the picture in its whole anymore.
Whats with this pixel peeping. Why would anyone want to blow a picture up so big you can see the hairs on an individual pixel. Whats wrong in viewing a picture at normal print size.?
@@toke7560 Pixel peepers are not fascinated by pictures as a representation of life and the World, but by their technological details, processes and functions. To them, photography is a technological marvel, not an art form. They don't care about the picture, they care about lines per millimeter or how well optical failures are corrected.
Yeah this has always been a problem for me, where is all that money going!? Show me the money, what is the build process, the labor cost, the manufacturing equipment to build..... Show me the cost of that pixi dust lens coating so that I can understand why I should pay $4k plus to do the exact same job as any cheap ass kit lens? Cheers 🍻
As 99% of images taken end up on a computer and are never printed as a 30” x 40” the Olympus wins
A Panasonic Leica 400mm prime needs to be a thing
i do have to say the comparison being done with video instead of pictures even for that non-moving pepper is a stroke of genius
Thanks for the comparison! Was wondering how my cheap 100-300 stacked up, and I'm still leaning towards the 50-200. No way I can afford that prime lol.
If you get the 100-300mm Panny lens, be sure to get the version 2 with Power OIS.
Actually, Version I comes with "Mega OIS" and is also very well stabilized. There is pretty pricegap between I and II and i definately prefer version I. The OIS is absolutely sufficient.
I have a GH6, G9 and a ZCAM E2, GH6 has been great; 4k120 is great, HD 240 is great, codec weirdness annoys me (no UHD prores..yet) . I don't know why the reviewers hated on it so much. AF is good enough for me; the DR "issue" for photography is pretty non-existent back to back with the G9 (tested as soon as I got it) and handheld high res works very very well (90% of my use is hand held product photos). My G9 will be getting sold sooner or later....along with my RX100 VI..maybe.
The 200/2.8 prime (incl. 1.4 converter) is now cheaper than its 50-200/2.8-4 brother (without converter), here in Germany. From originally €3,000, the price is now €1,500. After the production stop, the stocks must apparently now be emptied. Will there be a successor? Or is a fixed telephoto focal length simply no longer selling because everyone prefers zooms? In fact, the zoom is not that much worse now and then it essentially remains with the one stop that the prime is faster. It would be interesting to see whether there are perhaps somewhat greater differences on the G9ii or GH7 with the slightly higher resolution but especially with the new autofocus.
I'm watching this on a high end 17-inch laptop in 1440p and honestly - all the same :D
Hi, you should urgently try the Panaleica 200mm f2.8 with the x1.4 Panasonic teleconverter, personally and usually I hate teleconverters (all brands) but this couple is just amazing
I am going to have to agree. The 50-200 with teh tele is pretty sweet. I can imagine the 200mm prime being better at 200
Another night, another hit of Toneh to help me sleep. Feels like I just got back from a visit with Dr Cochran from Deadwood and all is well. I’ll drift off to this video and dream of prime lenses floating around making videos without me.
Kasey suffers for us so we don't have to.
Does size matter? 🤔 Yes, smaller is more convenient
For wildlife movies in daylight, a lens like 75-300mm is just fine : sharp enough, light.
For photos a faster&sharper lens will make a difference. In low light, an F/2.8 will focus better than a F/6.3 lens.
In my experience, the Panasonic 100-300 is very slightly worse then Olympus as it suffers at 5.6, but may be the slightly higher light gathering is better for someone.
Overall the Olympus is cheaper, lighter and very slightly sharper, but with these budget lenses you never know ho bad or good each sample are.
You should borrow the 100-400 from your Panny friend and do a side by side comparison with the 50-200.
The 200 is a cool lens but what if you get that one in a lifetime opportunity, and you are too close for the focal range?
Crikey. I did expect the differences to be much greater - and the 50-200 seems to have put in a particularly poor showing! It also seemed to have warmer colours than the 200?
Audio was good in this vid
I don't get the decision, the 75-300mm gives you more reach and ultimately better results at a much more travel friendly package, then you suddenly say but no, I need to go for the giant ass prime lol - huh? -- I still really enjoy my 50-230mm Fuji, I sold the 70-300 as it's just such a pain to travel with, I never want to bring it.
This is a good and valuable comparison for many. Too much peer pressure style marketing these days to buy the most expensive specialized shit out there. It's like selling someone a Japanese Zero, and pointing them to a runway for their first flying lesson.
Thanks for this video @Cameraconspiracies That GH6 was on my mind to research a bit more, when I first saw some of the reviews that gave it some real praise, as was the XH2 when I learned of it's 40mp sensor that I suspect would be amazing for macro work. I don't earn enough from my costly obsession with image production to warent or support the purchase of the kind of equipment that I am certain I need when I hear about new specs, but I thoroughly enjoy your hands on reviews and getting to live vicariously through you on these journeys. I wish you would do a knew show, where you reviewer what your viewers shoot with. I would love to hear a review on the 5DIV and the 7DmkII. I can make reasonable use of both cameras for photography but do not get much video out of either, I would be interested to see what you use for settings if you had to and which of the 2 you would use. Niether have IS in body so it would be all lens, or on a tripod. It's was just an idea, not something I would hold you too, I can imagine what a nuisance it would be to consider shooting with a camera some refused to consider when it came out 6 years ago (5D4) because it was already 2 years outdated on it's release date. You can tell those who bought them new many of them have terrible scars from being smacked in the face with that Cannon cripple hammer the day they opened the box to their brand new 5D4. It does have some stellar 120 fps though at 720p 🤔 ( No AF No IS )
The best tele options for m43 are:
1- Olympus 150-400 f4.5;
2- Olympus 300 f4;
3- Leica 200 f2.8;
4- Olympus 40-150 f2.8;
5- Leica 100-400;
6- Olympus 100-400;
7- Leica 50-200 f2.8-4;
8- LUMIX 100-300 and
9- Olympus 75-300.
I use regularly the Oly 40-150 f2.8 and 300 f4, the Leica 100-400 and the Oly 75-300mm (Which I bring always with me!). And having the Oly 40-150 f2.8 I cannot see the point of having the Leica 200 and/ or 50-200.
I love the Olympus 100-400, and I have the Mamiya M645 150mm f2.8.Manual focus, but nice and light and sharp.
"Its a ghetto lens" 😂😂
Olympus 75-300 is nice telephoto. Just the strange thing is how big it is. I also have Pentax 55-300/4.5-6.3 ED PLM WR which is APS-C lens, a bit faster and yet it is significantly smaller while it has more range and covers larger sensor. Both have build-in motor. And when I attach that Pentax lens on my EPL-6 it has very good image too, just the AF is obviously not there, so I bought the 75-300.. good for birds. And almost requires EVF for aiming. Through LCD it is significantly less usable on things like planes or birds.
I already invented a time traveling bidet, what are talking about. Where’s my lens?!
olympus lenses anytime over anything^^
How you attached cap to your go pro? I bought it a few days ago and also want to lens protect it but with something like that not lens protector.
Ulanzi cage for Gopro 10/11 amzn.to/3CCnyo2
@@cameraconspiracies thanks!
Nice thoughts, it's a shame the Oly 300mm F4 is half the price of the Lieca 200mm F2.8. Then again if you prefer taking photographs of wild life with absolutely no idea of what habitat it lives in, the F2.8 is the way to go.
If you have good light, and don’t want to spend 20k for glass, the gh6 has the advantage for tele video. Full frame anything, is going to cost a lot for a full kit. Then you could probably get massive primes with good stabe in the lens. Be happy with say 60p, or 120p. Even hdmi for external recorders top out at 120p. But with ninja v + and gh6. HDMI RAW 120p 4K DCI pro res raw.
In the pixel to pixel mode there appears to be more detail/ contrast in the branches in the blue jay vid. This could be a change in lighting conditions though.
GH6 clips look amazing.. keep going!
Have you got Panasonic MC-14 converter. This lens is said to be sharper with this on than the Olympus 300mm prime bare lens.
I have the 100-300mm mkii Pany and the 100-400mm. The 100-300 zoom and focus rings are smooth as butter. The stabe is awesome too compared to the Oly 75-300 I once had. But wherever possible I grab to 100-400 it’s a challenge but the results are worth it. The focus ring on mine is great but the zoom is tight. I’ve heard many are the same.
I was thinking of getting the 100-400. Already have the 100-300 II but the focus ring is stiff on my copy. Other people report their's is ok. Seems like it's a matter of luck which you get!
Dude, a dual stabilization test with the Panasonic Leika 100-400 on the GH6 is worth looking at
200/2.8 competes with FF, really good image quality, just not versatile enough. I wonder if there is an close good zoom lens within a 1xx-300mm range?
Hi. Will you review the "new" OM-5 camera sometime soon? Thanks!
Have you tried the Gen II Sony 70-200? Super light and extremely sharp. I would like to see your grand duck exploration video adventure showing it with both the 1.4 and 2x teleconverters.
Footage great as usual)
"it's SO much slightly better"
CC, I'm up in the BC mountains fly fishing all the time, and see many critters including bears. After watching your vids, I thought it would be a nice new hobby to do some amateur wildlife videography. Can you recommend a budget-friendly, micro loser camera that would go with the Oly 75-300? Probably going to buy used in case I video my own demise, and am thinking a budget under $1k for the body. Some slow-mo might be nice too. Thanks in advance.
Get a used Olympus em-1 mark ii and do all the firmware updates on it. You can get one for $500-$600 US. It pairs great with that lens.
With the peppercorn shots, hat Leica 200mm has some noticeable problems with keeping a level horizon.....the other Leica slightly better. The Olympus had the best horizon leveling of the three.. LOL! I think you need to do some photography with that 200mm Leica, then you'll see some differences.... Have a great day!
You need to make a video on the noew Olympus 150-400mm F4.5 with the 1.25 TC
Make wloging whit this 🤣
200mm f2.8 is really something else with the poppin'. Also, poivre noire extra puissant hahah how?? Pepper is pepper?
Haha fair conclusion! It's much heavier, so much more expensive, but so much slightly better that it's worth it 👌
So? Gh6 final thoughts soon?
Leica 200mm looks the best by far but I wish it is 200-300mm for versatility.
Olympus lens are great. Few tips (maybe you will find them useful, and some day you will test this gear). 40-150 2.8 is the one with 3d pop. It works funtastic with tc mc14 and mc20. They are adding with any doubt huge amount of details. 40-150 2.8 + mc14 is still fast. I know, there is no is but your gh6 seems to have good in body stabe. There is no use to add tcs to 100-400 - it just works tragically (14 a bit less (tragically). But im courious how 100-400 with is off works witj gh6. I dont have 300 pro, but know it works geat with tcs. 150-400.. anyone owns it? :0. Great content!
prime magic.
O panny boy. How is the G9 120$ more now than what I payed for it 2 years ago.
Someone get this man an actual wildlife lens (500/4 or 600/4), plus a box of tissues for when he bursts into tears at the majesty.
Hey, CZcams made me re subscribe, you might remind people to check.
leica have the 3d pop
🤣🤣👍👍
Dress up as a squirrelly 🐦 and maybe they Will let you get closer and respect you more.🤷
Sigma 150-600 G2...
what is the point of HD pixel-pixel? storage space & battery life
You are wrong about Fuji !
Fuji has an 200mm F/2.0 which costs $6000 and weights 2.3 Kg.
But I think I will pick 75-300mm. :)
I never said they didn't. The Fuji prime isn't much reach and super heavy.
My bad. Sorry.
You're right : Fuji's prime is a bit short for an APS-C camera and too heavy&expensive. It's for a small niche of users.
Me: “Why does he look a bit bad in this video? Oh yeah, he switched to Panasonic.”
Kind regards,
Fuji X100V user
When did you get the GH6? This is your first video with it?
Catch up ! this is his, like, at least second if not third video on GH6 🤪
you have a fiancé? Is she as funny as you? I wonder what dinner conversation is like
They probably film each other in 480fps.
On my em1 mkii I use the 50-200swd with ec14 and it's a lot sharper than my olympus 75-300 for about the same price. The cons is the weight and is a huge one, for that reason i use both teles from time to time. Good work! the olympus 75-300 its a gem for it's price. But maybe you must try second hand the 50-200swd.
Stunning video again😀🌴🦜🌄👍🇫🇮!!! Why you dont try some Zeiss lenses? IS it besauce they are too expensive for you? They have best quality of lenses in this shitty planet. How do you like them apples, you Canada boy? Great channel ♥️
I want Leica gear but I don't want to become a hitman in able to do so
With lenses like this (don't forget the Olympus 300mm f4 PRO, Panasonic Leica 100-400, Olympus 100-400, Olympus 150-400, and the Panasonic 100-300), it's not about the sharpness. It's about the aperture. Being able to shoot at f2.8 or f4 on a long lens like that is a big advantage because you're probably using fast shutter speeds for stills, so every bit of light matters. On Micro Four Thirds, the noise comes early, so keeping your ISO down is critical. I speak from direct experience.
My personal choice is the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8 PRO with the MC-20 2x teleconverter. I am saving up for the 300mm f4 PRO.
I owned the Olympus 75-300 for a while, and it was mostly fine. The one problem I did encounter was purple fringing in certain situations. But, if you're just starting out shooting wildlife, it's a great value. I only sold mine because I already had the 40-150, and the MC-20 teleconverter rendered the 75-300 redundant.
Time for you to buy a Ghillie suit and some camo face paint. You'll eliminate those twigs, get the shots you want. and it *could* keep you warmer. Now that talking head part..... maybe walking into town with all of that on..... oh yes - that would drive your sub count over 500k in record time.
Aannnd I think you could appease the frightened vegans and convince them you aren't the legendary Toronto bog monster - but rather a squirrel cinematographter/whisperer...
Now that I know how to shoot Extra Bold Peppercorn bottle close ups, I can confidently say that for the money 50-200mm f2.8-4 is a piece of shit in comparison to Olympus kit lens 75-300mm f4.8-6.7. Also it makes no sense to have it in your current set up. No complaints about the other Lumix 200mm 2.8.
IMO it is not proper linguistics to call lenses “budget” when you mean to say “ATTENTION rich people with money and no talent, yet.” $600 USD is a lot of money here in warm sunny Florida USA. I would appreciate a video of you shopping at pawnshops for surprise glass the homeless could afford. FYI. I made my own macro lens out of the bottom of a broken beer bottle today. The Tonah is pleasing but the focus is lacking. Will post photos later and the lens is for sale too. MYBO.
Your fiance would marry u faster if u get an earring
Your testing is flawed if your comparing different ISO values. Use your shutter.
You're getting married? Married men are like photographers. They smell weird, they gain weight with age, they're always carrying stuff around...
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That Leica is really special and outshines the other lenses. But its way out of my price range. I’ll go with the panny 100-300mm since its a little brighter than the oly.
Not worth the price in a million years. 90% won't be able to spot a difference if you didn't tell them which is which. Also, with CZcams compression, it makes even less sense to spend that amount of money on a lens. You can buy another A7SIII with a lens for that price.
DUDE!! first it was a girlfriend.. now a fiance? I am worried... you are talking about laundry and cleaning the bum? what is happening
You get a mention in this review at 14mins .46secs czcams.com/video/uCyKPBJlQqE/video.html
Micro 4/3 already has a better wild life lens, just stop lying to your self and get the Olympus 150-400 4.5 pro.
fuji has the xf 200mm f2
The A7SIII will pulverize the GH6, but it will still be a fun comparison.
The GH6 will have several advantages. You might be surprised. If the GH6 has decent lighting it will hang
Meh - Wildlife is not your forte.
The Lumix 100-300 is f4-5.6, better than the Oly 75-300. I think it is an easy choice for the budget option to get the Lumix.