Is crime in South Africa worse since Apartheid?
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2008
- SA Law, 2004 - South Africans are taking the law into their own hands, as communities feel they are abandoned by police, some say it's worse than during Apartheid.
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A decade on from the end of Apartheid, many believe that the streets are more dangerous than ever before.
Small businesses in the township of Alexander employ private security firms to keep crime under control. The police are not trusted to deal with the problem efficiently. Mapogo, the country's biggest vigilante group relies on robust methods to exercise justice. Armed with a Sjambok whip and hosepipe, they extract confessions from suspects. "It's the only way they will talk!" says one satisfied Mapogo client. But it's a rough kind of justice, open to abuse. One suspect is held for four days, lashed until he bleeds and then chained up outside. Both black and white communities are angry that democracy has not fulfilled its promise. "The crime wave began with Mandela's walk to freedom!" claims one resident. And as the insecurity increases, more and more people are prepared to take the law into their own hands.
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Short answer : Yes
Long answer : Absolutely positively without a doubt, crime most certainty has gotten worse in South Africa since the end of apartheid.
Crime has gone out of control here in ol South Africa 😐
@JimboParadox, I know a woman here in America & she visited South Africa 4-5 years ago! She told me she was first in Cape Town! She said she was able to go out but had to be aware in all her surroundings! However when she went to Johannesberg/Pretoria she was not allowed out of the hotel! She talked about black young men surrounding the hotel looking for someone to come out to rob/steal from all the time she was there!!!!!
Now is worse than 12 years ago🤦🏾♀️😭😭😭
Is it really? I’m from Cape Town and it seems relatively ok. Is it still as bad in the rest of ZA?
@NA Phiri I live in a gated community.
It's been 25 years now, and I can definitely attest to the horrors of this country. Its beyond worse, I wouldn't be surprised if we started to purge
My fears bro
This aged very well
It's been 25 years of what?
@@finessepodcast_za SA is whitte genocide capital. So unfair. You live there?
@@denzel1877 of shit
As a black south African in 2019 this sort of punitive measures should be enhanced as the crime rate has escalated tremendously and should be enforced upon anybody irrespective of race colour or creed, foreign national or local, as the police force are too stupid and incompetent in doing their job.
What if I told you that it was decided for South African to be another African shithole?
Research afrikaner broederbond. It will all make sense.
Your white mates created the very environment and hardship you see today. They put a black puppet government in place to take away the blame and provide cover for themselves. They are still running things economically and approving or rejecting laws. Blame them. They don't like south Africa tell them to go back their shitholes in Europe they were running from.
@@JimmyCrackCorn_ Agree with you ! White Communists Liberals BBC, NBC, CNN. MSNBC, and any other bleeding heart outfit ruined South Africa , I was there 4 years one of the most beautiful places in the world. Isn't it great that some whites are going back to Zimbabwe or when I was there Rhodesia to help feed the blacks !
Fred Sluiter 🤣🤣🤣🤣.....
A real shame such a beautiful country
2008 was a mild chaotic now in 2019 its down right horrendously frightening
This is a stupid question . It's obviously way worse since apartheid
CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!! What our poor farmers are going through is shocking and not on!!!!!
Yes crime is getting worse. Please expand Mapogo a Mathemaga to ALL cities and towns.
+Edward Pennacchini Mapogo is the true Justice in south africa!
@viralshield eastern europe is garbage
For how much longer are the rest of the world, and black south africans going to blame apartheid it is getting real thin these days
Blacks in the United States have been blaming slavery since it ended over 150 years ago. It has only started in SA. I visited and worked for a SA Petro Security company and have seen this disaster first hand. Blacks and Whites are losing their country! Let freedom Ring! Good luck Mates!
George Abernethy proof is in the pudding
@@rickravenrumney once again us aborigines in America have become bigger than white jesus☻☻☻☻
@@walterjones2609 Good One. I agree!
@@walterjones2609 I was just thinking of SA friend. The place is a disaster. And I'm not really speaking on.just whites. Sub Saharan Africans that have immigrated there are definitely not welcome by the other blacks. Nigerians. Ghanaian Peoples are routinely assaulted and murdered. I can almost understand the backlash against most whites. Anger about the past. But blacks? It's a very ugly situation. Colonization all over again with the Chinese. Bringing in it's own workers, growing its own food for export and bringing in 10000 Chinese soldiers disguised as Police for the Chinese areas. They have given loans and are foreclosing on them rapidly. I. Myself, am mixed. But even if I wasn't I want Africa and her peoples to succeed. The whites that are there should stay there. Regardless of how they got there. Getting rid of them would be skin to Anericans sending Blacks back to a land that is no longer theirs. They belong here, itvtge states. If you are over there Mr. Black, or wherever, please take care of yourself.
Maybe so my friend. All I know is that two friends of mine got robbed within 24 hours once arriving in Pretoria. One girlfriend got raped in Capetown and a colleague was beaten on a beach once he told he is German. Four people I know having a vacation in South Africa and each one of them got into trouble. Coincidence?
I gave up and left. There is no real solution with the way the country is going sadly. Beautiful place, really great people you meet every day - too much poverty, too much entitlement mentality, poor education system and of course corrupt politicians.
Planning on also doing that, even if its Botswana it would be great. Tired of walking around snooping and looking around like I'm carrying the entire currency of the country. The beautiful views and nature it has to offer can wait. I just want good quality of life, able to go out at night without bulletproof vests. Can't even remember the last time I took a walk in my own city, there are corpses every dawn on our drainage systems and bridges
But why in Botswana 🇧🇼 blacks,whites,coloureds,Indians live together happily???
Well if u steal sumting ther ure hand is cut of
JimboParadox which part of Botswana do you live in???
And In Zambia, One Zambia One Nation
Outrageous levels of crime and some odd mentality of some in pretending that it's not happening.
White people pretending that they are going fight back and eliminate the crime also. This vigilante fighting back nonsense is the stuff of movies. These type of documentaries play to the illusion of the "tough rugged White guy" making a stand , Please....................what a load of BS.
Caver461 wouldn't have expected u here
Please poor uneducated people , stop having children .
@@matthewjackson9615 Racist much? Tough is tough, regardless of race. Wouldn't expect a keyboard warrior like you to get it lmao.
South Africa is way worse now.. 2019.
Reb3lious S0ul I wanted to visit, but this made me change my mind. I’m safer in New York.
@@beverlyjohn6447 Go to Cape Town, its stunning and as long as you avoid certain scenarios you will be perfectly ok ( like walking the streets after midnight on your own, climbing the mountain by yourself, leaving your handbag unattended while you dine out ) I have never felt threatened in Cape Town, the people are very friendly
@@beverlyjohn6447 I don't think you should go either...go where it is safe
@@eyvonnegilford2818 My German buddy has been going to Cape Town for the past 15 years. Every year for 3 months at a time. He has always felt safe and never had an incident. He has rented cars and travelled to Durban, Johannesburg and even Namibia on his own. As long as you take care and act wisely it will be perfectly safe for you. I myself have been to Cape Town city center more than I can remember and always felt safe. Dont always believe what people tell you. Yes there is crime, but you will find it in any major city. Just avoid situations where you feel unsafe. For instance, I will not go wander around alone after midnight. And dont put a handbag on the ground when dining out, its plain reckless to do that anywhere in the world. Cape Town is beautiful
I am South Africa living happily in my country, there is some crime but South Africa is much better since 1994.
Yes there is more crime now. A LOT MORE.
Crimes pay in SA since 1994. The government can not take action against the criminals. They belongs to the government and is government.
@@fransduplessis2523 think about it if crime rates extremely high think of how much money the government make from people paying for security (tax), the government aren't stupid they know what they are doing
If you actually looked up the crime stats pre 1994, you'll notice that crime has not gotten worse since Apartheid ended, the opposite actually happened. The only reason people feel like crime is getting worse is because prior to 1994, 74% of police resources were allocated to policing the white population. When police were suddenly allocated to serve everybody, the middle classes started feeling less protected by the police. That drove the sense that crime was going up, when it actually wasn't.
@@GrootManEiniqua what? show us those crime stats pre and post, you cant because they are not true. What nonsense!
This video could have been 23 minutes and 57 seconds shorter.
The answer is yes.
Yes crime since 1994 has increased and become more brutal. Its disgusting
Well, the only difference is that when the white government killed blacks people could not film that or they were sent 10 years to prison for reporting the facts: You are a shame. You should not use 1994 as a reference it shows how you long for apartheit. It is a real shame to read comments like yours, Laura. May God for give you. South Africa was a violence country before 1994, the only difference is that violence WAS legal back then.
Before 1994 it was a purge to black community
"A black man is in chains because he stole from his white employer.." what are the colour of the people working at mapogo?
What has color to do with it.?
@@AllTheNamesAreGone If it's irrelevant, why did the quote mention it in the first place? Colour is used in this context as a rebuttal, and therefore is a perfectly valid and relevant observation.
The law protects criminals better than the law abiding citizen protecting themselves and their families! Give the citizens castle law and see crime drop!!
Got to love these foreign “journalists” that come to SA to tell us what we experience every day is imaginary. Crime in SA is rampant, and even the biggest criminal organization led by the crime boss himself Cele, has never been able to get away with their criminal activities so easily.
Just a bunch of idiot low lifes who will say and write anything to sell their rags whatever.
Yeah?
They are agreeing with you. Quit making something out of nothing
Of course it's more dangerous than before! Everything is worse since the ANC has taken over. We all saw it coming!
I was burgaled 4 times in 1995 during the day. Fortunately they waited for my wife to leave the house to fetch my son from school.
Who cares, leave Africa!
South Africa was new in democracy. We weren't ready for influx of people who came to SA in numbers. Law enforcement agencies were powerless to accommodate the new people in the country.
I believe that Black, Indian, Colored and White South Africans were not given time to iron their apartheid baggage and true reconciliation was not done. Hoping that we can be given time to heal without the outsiders.
Truth, some of the new people are more exposed and know how to play double game pretend to be nice to police gift of the gab ND manipulative thn being police back preaching hate to black South Africans reminding the of slavery, apartheid, colourismb etc etc So the not learned get angry and go out there committing crimes killings etc. South Africans must be smart not to allow these evils whilst they fighting ND destroying their people ND country before they know it, the new group of People they think are geniune Brothers will take over South Africa. Those with gift of gab can cause trouble as well as convince authority's that they mean well. It's a catch 22. How I just wish we could all live in peace and visit eachother in peace. Sometimes I wonder why people go to church Use God's Name in vain when meanwhile their hearts are filled with coniving ND Evil.
In 1994 fuel was R 0.60 per liter ....now it is R16.80...........what happened at Sasol ?
Very violent place. You have to have fences and gates around your home with expensive security systems. Many have private police hired to patrol their neighborhoods.
This was 2004 now 2015 it's even worse
In 1964 there were only 2000 murders in South Africa!
And still about to get a whole lot worse
@@RonSafreed don't forget to consider the population
@@RonSafreed In Norway, I understand that on average they can go a whole year without a murder being committed. I love the Nordic people.
2021 much much worse..,. Ask Leo Prinsloo
Any one who attempts to sell you the absolute tripe that crime is not worse now is a liar! All you have to do is ask them to show you the crime stats from pre 1990 to soon after, and up until date, and ask them to explain. Also why SA has most crimes the highest, and others among the highest in every category.
And while you are asking, ask them why there is a moratorium on crime stats and why they are suppressed.
Crime is extreme here in SA our lawless country!
I think that the laws we have are already too soft. The police in SA (and elsewhere) admit that they sometimes have to let someone go even if there's 100% evidence that person did something.
Vigilantes are not a bad idea when "legal justice" fails.
They have to get rid of the Colonial way of dealing with crime, Period
@@sarahfortein7674no. The old government did something right. Bring the punishments back
You can thank the ANC for the crime problems in ZA
And this is why South-Africa had Apartheid. Look at the state of SA after Apartheid,a fucking disgrace.
The same society collapse happened in Congo in the 60's and 70's,
when the Belgian elite suddenly had to turn over all the government jobs and high responsibility jobs to uneducated Congolese people...
Result was a total collapse of infrastructure, hospitals, government, economy...
same happened in South Africa to a lesser degree: it has nothing to do with skin color or racism,
it's just that any population (black, white, whatever)
needs about 40 years to build an educated middle class that's able to rule a complex country...
Skin colour is not the issue, but IQ is
and that's why I Never ever go to South Africa again,although nature is astonishing
Please tell your friends that, it's not safe here in this country, stay away please.
Nevyn Tanis Proudly South African, hey Nevyn? Haha I guess not.
TheXCore360 Don't be a fool son, it's because I am a proud South African that I don't want more foreigners dying because of money and bling.
Nevyn Tanis I was kidding, bro. I'm just saying what you said there wasn't so prideful of the country but the exact opposite. Anyone who is actually proud of this place would let some people know that the crime(from my perspective anyway) isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Foreigners think you can't even take a shit without getting shot at, and people like you encourage that. Proudly South African my ass. Go live in Austrailia, my friend, we don't need you here to be honest.
TheXCore360
Ok, so 50 murders a day is ok then? Rape and murder capital of the world is ok then? Beside, it depends where you taking that shit and how full your wallet is at the time.
The answer to that question is simply, yes.
Without a doubt one of the best SA documentaries I have ever seen... thank you
It's bullshit
the crime situation in South Africa was manageable under Apartheid.
But over the last 20 years the ANC government is the main crime syndicate.
The reason for "Apartheid" was that the SA White minority had invested much labor and capital into the country, believing that if able to vote, a Black majority would treat them unfairly and destroy what they created, as we see they were 100% correct.
As others have stated, this is more about education than race, by percentage educated Blacks are the largest group trying to leave SA, many Whites have already left.
The HARD truth, is that the educated White minority was a blessing to the poor Black population, they kept order and created jobs, but many resented their wealth, seeing this ANC communist agitators, stirred up trouble and took full advantage of this.
The ANC helped with the efforts of Zionist Jews no doubt
Indeed so. Well said.
My friend. The white people should not have been in S.A in the first place.
@@yogaexperiencesafrica Why are you stuck in this foolish, idiotic, stupid, childish immature, ridiculously dark age mentality thinking. This is 2019 and people have the right to live wherever they want to.
@@juliusmaehlich3138 not if they got there by killing and oppressing and still feel entitled and better than the rest. Also no, Africans are restricted from living anywhere they want. It's not that simple
When the media just reported what they saw...what a novelty
Its because the people think its normal to live like that
We need immagration rules like Australia . And the police need to focus more on crimes like this than people on the highway speeding a little bit . I swear now days all the police focus is on catching speeders so they can pay fines to the police department .
what racist rules? Fuck off
They not always like that this was edited
@@orbash2636 mooi fokken mooi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the 70s and 80s my mom left our car on the pavement with the keys under the seat and nothing happened , we slept with the front house door open nothing happened . We as kids slept out side in tents which is a big NO NO today as you will get robbed , raped and killed today.
I saw an old film taken in 1968 in Johannesberg & show all races walking the streets shopping in the many stores open for business !!!!!
@@RonSafreed then people cared for the rule of law and were scared of the cops.
This is from 2004.Immagine how much things have "improved" since.........
It's like asking if there was less crime in America in the 1950's. Of course.
The death penalty should be reinstated. It is the only way to scare people into taking life so easily.
So black rule in S.A. has eliminated the death penalty? So before 1994 S.A. had the death penalty?
@@RonSafreed Yes!
You can't just say reinstating the death penalty will curb crime...what scientific proof is there to support what you are suggesting
@Alan Collins the same Saudi Arabia that makes journalists disappear
@@sbongadlamini388 well for a start , people understood that killing had consequences . Now a murderer can get bail for a $1000
Mapogo medicine !!!!!
Yes. Without any question crime is far worse now than ever during apartheid. Average of 54 deaths per day is worse than the US military had in the Iraq war.
1:37 someone give me that badass guitar drum thing.
our police used to be fast asf though. Can't believe this is 12 years ago, we're going backwards so fast.
dont be mistaken dude, the western cape (where cape town is) isnt like the rest of the country, our provincial government is the Democratic Alliance (DA), its run much better than the rest of the country, Cape Town is awesome.. ANC try so hard to make Western Province ungovernable, but they fail. because we know that they do. western cape is an amazing place to be.
These crimes were taking place in settlements and segregation long before, there was no way to survive without it, now that the flood gates have opened its a way of life. The death penalty needs to be introduced with a 3 strike conviction so we can plant fear and respect into future generations, a stream can flow in many directions but always chooses the easiest path so educate parents and youth, this revolution is only possible if 3 generations are educated and afforded better lives.
Black , white , brown , black , white , brown....thats all i ever hear complaints.....this problem will never be solved unless we see each and other as one....people of the human race
What helps stop crime the most is a high probability of being caught. More police and a police being professional and not corrupt would help immensely
Then you will be accused of being a police state as we were.
@@davethorstry6700 what country?
Why for the love of God would people say "I want to get everything for free."After apartheid.
Damn, this sucks. My mother & I have been planning a trip to Cape Town for a while now, & we were hoping to somehow stay a night or 2 in Joburg while we were there. But after hearing their murder count for a year?? =( I'm normally a brave soul, but I know I'd never forgive myself were I to put my mother in that sort of danger. The only way i'd do it still would be if we were guaranteed a safe part of the city.
@Nicky Klue lol I actually wrote this comment ten years ago! I did end up going to Joburg with my mom. It was a blast! I'd go back but you're right, it's dangerous.
You’ll be lucky to get out of the airport unscathed now. The gangs are targeting tourists as they arrive
What a understatement!!
You have to protect yourself - no one else will! Sad but true.
Too many crimes - few police.
The police is at KFC not bothering with crime thats why crime runs free
'' Give him the medicine but don't overdose '' 😂
Viva Mapogo!!! Lets have more of these groups...
being a journalists you have to be brave
I have to say I truly believe the young the man has done the best for his family.. my true feelings is that this family are the building blocks of a future lawfully authorised Africa.. I have to say you guys are so top rated by me... Thom in Scotland.
😂😂😂😂😂😂This question is beyond rhetorical. It's like 5 times worse than before.
This will happen in america
It has begun....Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc. Unfortunately, it's happening so quickly in so many cities that the destruction of any semblance of a civilized society, due mostly to liberal policies much like those in SA, that I'm afraid it is becoming a much bigger threat than anyone could imagine. GOD SAVE AMERICA:(
Social programs such primary and secondary education, vocational trainning, small business loans, employment initiatives should augment the law enforcement programs in townships and rural areas.
all that is already being done
self respect so that you can respect others and common social decency and responsibility.
"Their hostility born from Apartheid" hahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So what's the excuse for the crime in the UK and America then? Wake up!
"People thought it would be a rainbow state and everything would be free - but then they found out they had to work" The most telling statement of the vid for me. Freedom and free stuff are not the same thing at all though people seem to confuse the two which I had not considered before now.
Honestly the rainbow nation is happening, it's obviously not gonna happen over night. The only people who say things like "the rainbow nation is rubbish etc" are people who don't want to be a part of it because they want to hold on to the old ways and the old way of thinking. I'm sorry to let those of you who are still holding on to Apartheid values that you are fighting a losing battle. I'm a 24 year old man who grew up with friends of all races and went to multiracial schools etc. For my generation race is getting less and less relevant, the only time I see people fighting and arguing about race is when I'm on the internet, when I come across videos like this. If you pay attention, usually people that don't get along with people of other races are usually older and grew up in a different time. These days when I go out I see at least one interracial couple. By the time my kids are born, the whole issue of race will be irrelevant and I can't wait.
@@GrootManEiniqua Dream on, it will never happen it is down the tubes almost 30 years later, it is either in you or not, either you want to or not.
They had free education during apartheid for BLACK children by the White Government but now they have to pay for it.
Mandela was probably the greatest leader in the world over the last 50 years, but I don't think he would have put up with this. The police are demoralized and sometimes involved in crime. We need HELP over here.
2022 October 3:
Now, South Africa's ANC Government is on a path to making a criminal of a person that defends self, loved ones and property against murderous criminals.
The intention appears to be that the most drastic action permitted will be to tell the criminal to stop trespassing and leave, and to call the SAPS to send a police officer to the crime scene; an on-the-ball officer, probably a Constable, may arrive within 12 hours, if it doesn't take several days or more, by which time the unknown actual criminal will be untraceable and the injury or damage done, irreversible.
This is from 2003 into 2004,I wonder what it's like ten years later.10/7/2014. Irish time 15:42. Thursday.
Well its 19 years now and its FUKKEN MAYHEM
Should we blame Mandela for all this?
22,000 murders in one freakin year??? Way to go black government!!
Very sad to say Things are much worse now
dude im white, im one of u, i actually used to think the same way. but the reality is, its that our current government has a lack of education. frankly i dont care what colour our government is bra, as long as theyre educated and smart, just and honest. im chilled but ja theyre not and the majority of our country refuses to acknowledge it purely because the better choice (DA) has white politicians in it. i just hope for real equality
As if the blacks in Chicago and Detroit are getting an entirely different education than other whites in the US.
Give the White Man back His Power In President You See S.A will Make a Come Back Very Quick !
i feel u bro
A HAPPY Country is a SECURE country. A country with WEAK LAWS will ALWAYS have HUGE CRIME problems. Even the gangsters etc KNOWS this, because even THEY have STRONG LAWS AND PUNISHMENT.
In 2004? Not so much, but now, oh boy it’s mad max out there
Jhburg is full of foreign nationals n they don’t have permit
Are they the problem ?
@@sekoniazeez8570
And the sad part is they are teaching the same values to their kids.
And they seem to have more privilege than citizens of this country
Is it true since 1994 that the illegal black migration from all over black Africa has boosted the population to over 100 million in South Africa & the native blacks like the Zulus e.c.t. do not get along with them!!!!
@jan athman ,in much of black Africa, the police work only during daylight hours & at night, the thugs & gangsters come out & it is said, gunfire is heard all night!!!!!! This is a major reason nobody travels to black Africa from other parts of the world!!!!! I assume black policemen see laying in bed with women to make "umteen numbers of babies all night is more important than keeping law & order in any community"????? Betcha the average black policeman in black Africa has tens & dozens of babies & kids all over the black communities in black Africa!!!!!!
does anyone know a black area that has no major crime
even Australia now has a black problem.
Yes for sure.
Come to the CRIME CAPITAL OF SOUTH AFRICA, PRETORIA.
Housebreaking and theft every day in Les Marais, Eloffsdal, Roseville.
I personally had 2 break ins in 5 months.
Police not even interested to investigate
😞😞 I wonder where is Mapogo security here in 2023, are they still in operation?. What they were doing was good and had an impact!.
This was really very well reported, finally a South African gives us the scoop, not some stupid outsider.
U're mad. Is the reporter a South African? Do you have names like his name in SA?
Short answer. Yes.
There is absolutely no doubt that crime is much, much worse since apartheid!!
ANC and Mandela did not bring about paradise?
SA is a tragedy.
All People need to lead themselves because elites (monopolisers) will screw you.
Here's this British dude trying to apply British standards to South Africa. Mapogo showed him what African justice is. Hillbrow used to be the Soho of Johannesburg. Used to be..
Please pray for South Africa.
Of course crime is out of hand. We entered the "democratic Era" with the same size force that existed in apartheid days. Only we have free movement even over borders, dealing with ghost foreigners and a serious lack of good administration
Since 1994 illegal immigration from all over black Africa has said to boost the S.A. population over 100 million & before 1994 the apartied government kept these people out!!!!!
People living money b4 their country receiving bribes, majority foreigners get what they want through bribes they r used to doing in their African countrys they come from, it's obvious RSA guyz are bought bribed. It's only The RSA people ND forces who can change their plight. Maybe if they change their plight neighbouring country's will emulate
This is 2019 see what's happening now!!!!
A few years ago I was in a taxi on my way home and a black person said that things were better during the apartheid...now people if a black person can say something like that then this country is truly fucked
There is an increasing number of black South Africans that express the sentiment that things were better under 'apartheid' ('afsonderlike ontwikkeling' or 'separate development').
South Africa 🇿🇦🇳🇱 ❤need to visit their anyways.....
Mpogo.. I love you man... The African hand is the only cure.. well said Mpogo!! Respect to you brother!
i will seport mapogo any day you do good work man
Keeping a firearm behind your couch is illegal BTW.
I have to say I truly believe the young be man has done the best for his family.. my true feelings is that this family are the building blocks of a future lawfully authorised Africa.. I have to say you guys are so top rated by me... Thom in Scotland.
so much hate, envy, in SA diversity doesn't work very well either
"The Medicine" I like that old dude!
thts the problem with these tourists, they come to south africa and go with their cameras, bags and shorts to places like gugulethu, hillbrow or soweto without protection and wanna stay till late at mzoli's. We south africans tht can avoid these places, even the police do. Go see a lion or elephant. i was in rio, spain and paris and was in no way interested to see their ghettos, which i am sure they have
It is so much worse there now. I have a woman friend that is a single mother that I try to help out when when I can. But being stuck on disability my self. That is hard to do. It's a friendship that has been going on for around ten years now. So I know she's not scamming me. But she lives in Mitchels landing and she has had to tell tell her daughter those are just fire works going off at night. Then she does not let her daughter out of the small house she still lives in with her parents. There is just that many bad and druged up people around. Only time it is safe now is when the African/U.S. military is around. But as soon as they leave all the crime and everything is back.
What US Military? You are being scammed...