Thank you for showing it at this camera angle. Most of the swings I have seen online are always from the same two angles. The shift in prospective reality helped me to see the hand positions.
I struggle with this same issue (shallow to start the downswing but then get steep) and you’re the only instructor I’ve seen who perfectly notices this, but also has the solution to fix it. Great job Chris!
You are one of the few coaches who explains the reasons for an unwanted behavior of the club. I can't wait to test these changes on the range. Thank you for your great content.
Just want to say that I really appreciate the first person POV reference points that you highlighted because I have been struggling with shallowing the club. 1. Hands hang above balls of feet at address 2. Hands above alignment club at delivery 3. club angled behind hands at delivery position. Those reference points really helped provide checkpoints to getting on the right path. You should consider a second camera to highlight DTL as well with your excellent instructions. All the best.
@@ChrisRyanGolf all good here thanks. Driving the ball much better now thanks to your lesson and my new Qi10 Max driver, I liked yours so much I bought my own!!
I've never heard anyone explaining the hand path this well, when I try swinging a club with the feel it feels effortless. Can't wait to try it on the range. Good one, Chris!
Just one more thing I'de like to add..I think I've been through thousands of videos of instructors trying to teach the swing but in all honesty @ChrisRyanGolf is the ONLY one that can break down and explain anything he is trying to teach perfectly. I'm sure there are many great instructors out there but not everyone can explain with words what exactly needs to be done the way Chris does.
This lesson is crazy good. I am about a 12 with the ability to go low once in a very blue moon. I hit balls every night in my yard and over the last couple of years have gone full on to get better. I feel that much of my swing is right but something was missing. For a day anyways this was an instant game changer in so many ways. I no longer feel stuck, ball flight is way different and the contact with ball is just wow. I am not a video junky although I like a lot of Chris’s videos. I think all instructors are after the common goal of helping us improve with only the message delivery being different.
Great video getting the hands in the correct position in the downswing with the club alignment. Shaufflee does a drill for the downswing/transition, where he stamps his left foot to signal the shallowing the club. Your tip with hitting the bag on the downswing, gives you a much better feeling than just trying to drop the hands/arms. If you watch all the pros from the rear view, they all do this. If you can master this, you’re on the right path to great golf. The other thing is the right knee has to win the race to the ball before the club head does.
I was looking at slow motion videos and noticed that you can see through the pro's arms in that "delivery" position from a down the line POV. and I was like why wasn't mine like that? I was like my right elbow's down, but the club head is going out to in still. This video gave me more understanding now. Thank you Chris!
Chris this is gold, never seen a presentation of this issue before. It makes so much sense. Please do one with you, more detail and more drills on this. Can’t wait to try this, thanks much, joe.
This transformed my driving. My miss has always been left, a snap hook if really bad but have also been slicing. One range session and once dialled in, I was hitting it dead straight. Cheers Chris 👍🏼
Awesome Chris. Thank you. I’m writing this after watching and then replaying some of my slow mo simulator videos and I can now see that I’m a bit like this student. Can’t wait to try and implement this minor change and see the results. Cheers!
i have the same bad downswing. I do it so I don't come over the top, so i tuck that right elbow in too quickly. Continuing my lifetime of tweaks i guess. thank you. your brilliant !
Chris, one of your best lessons yet, IMO. The hands move out (1st move) and then back into /past the leading thighs giving you solid contact / shaft lean, etc.
Excellent video.. thankyou .. lately been hitting my clubs very well but next time i go to the range i will watch this again to make sure i dont have any bad habits.
Videos like this are why Chris is the best! I am on the range several times a week, but would like to add a launch monitor to my "tool box." What do you recommend as the best budget minded launch monitor?
This is exactly the lesson I needed for my current golf game. I’m gonna go mess around with the “tipping” mechanism via grip until I get the intuition.
This reminds me a bit of Hogan’s drill minus the leg/body action. I encourage the viewer to watch the video where Hogan politely demonstrates how the lower body drives the downswing. Hogan doesn’t talk about it directly in the footage, but one can see as he makes the “real” swing, that late in the downswing his forearms unfold downward in front of his body… bringing his hands in closer to the body… tipping the club late which leads to the squaring of the club. It’s also a powerful move that creates that image of the tremendous lag he had.
Watching you give this lesson just hits different from other instructors talking to the camera. Great stuff! Should the same exercise be used with the driver?
@chris Ryan. I am a 12 handicap that has an over the top swing. I am swinging at about 115. Happy to do a probono series where you get me to a 5 handicap lol just tell me where and when!!!!
Yes god damn it, the best drill/tip/video I´ve ever used!👍 I just came home from the range and it really works, it´s almost stupid how good it works. This and more patience in the swing, don´t rush it, will make you hit the ball much better 😀
Chris Excellent. Question. The preset "Faldo" drill has the face slightly OPEN to the plane, toe at this point should be pointing slightly to target line.How do YOU overcome this minor problem. Believe You covered several months back. Thanks Ray
One of these days I’ll get a lesson like this. I know I’m losing a good bit of distance because of my swing. It’s not terrible by any means, but I’m certain it doesn’t look like his finished product. In my fitting for the 790s I was getting 175-180 constantly, but I know with the correct swing and rotation, I could be atleast 15 yds farther.
If I had this lesson I'd have it video recorded so I can see it all from the outside (just like this video). The problem with swing coaching you don't see this of yourself the same manner and walk away back to old habits. Best to review and review yourself the video then take it to the range.
This is a much better way to describe a correct inside club path. Everyone is talking about this idea of “putting your hands in your back pocket” For someone who needs to feel something that’s real and can *actually* happen, the problem is that you can’t *actually* put your hands in your pocket during a swing……sorry to break the news to everyone. Hahaha.
Yeah I’ve had similar comments like this previously in regards to Mike, having watched some of his content o believe we are quite similar in what we coach, the timing is key, he likes the hands to move inwards a little earlier but it’s a very similar move I think
Meanwhile Brison Dechambeau says think like putting your hands in your right pocket in the downswing which is the complete opposite … there is no sport where coaches are saying more contradicting things
Me and Bryson are saying exactly the same things, he is talking about how the arms should work relative to the torso, they should move down and off the body, I completely agree with that, but in this case his arms were working down and behind his body, he just needed some tweaking. Often the info syncs up but the understanding of they info is what creates the confusion
Thank you for the reply, rewatching with that in mind I think I understand better what you mean. Obviously the short metaphor of BD saying hands in the right pocket in a short video clip might also have been missing some key informations sorry for comparing that into the video here, but I also totally agree on the transportation of understanding universally being an extremely difficult task especially online
I would say just the opposite. Get his transition right and that will fix his steepness on the way down. While I wouldn’t say never monkey around with the hands to fix something in 99% of the cases it is fix things from the ground up. If he transitioned correctly the club would never tip over from where he had it.
We got pretty good results this way, have him more that what he was after when he came in, but I’d never ever claim that my way is the best or the only way, just how I see it. His lead arm externally rotated too early in the downswing, which part of the transition do you see influencing the lead arm?
There's a piece of plywood right in front of the ball. Ram the butt of the grip through the plywood. Poof, lag city. Blow that plywood apart and watch the ball fly. Forget positions and all that crap.
Guess it’s just the way I coach, if someone just me what to do if want to know why, how there different to what I currently do, I believe the more someone understands the whole picture the more likely they are to own the change
I have been waiting for this video for 50 years. At 74 years you I'm crushing my irons and launching my drives farther . Many many thanks, Chris!!
My pleasure !
Thank you for showing it at this camera angle. Most of the swings I have seen online are always from the same two angles. The shift in prospective reality helped me to see the hand positions.
I struggle with this same issue (shallow to start the downswing but then get steep) and you’re the only instructor I’ve seen who perfectly notices this, but also has the solution to fix it. Great job Chris!
Great, really hope this helps, just try to set up a similar station to this and you should be good to go
You are one of the few coaches who explains the reasons for an unwanted behavior of the club. I can't wait to test these changes on the range.
Thank you for your great content.
Thanks and hope it helps 🙌
Just want to say that I really appreciate the first person POV reference points that you highlighted because I have been struggling with shallowing the club. 1. Hands hang above balls of feet at address 2. Hands above alignment club at delivery 3. club angled behind hands at delivery position. Those reference points really helped provide checkpoints to getting on the right path. You should consider a second camera to highlight DTL as well with your excellent instructions. All the best.
I know I’m biased but I think this series of you giving lessons is brilliant and all your pupils have had different issues
Thanks Geoff and hope you are well
@@ChrisRyanGolf all good here thanks. Driving the ball much better now thanks to your lesson and my new Qi10 Max driver, I liked yours so much I bought my own!!
I've never heard anyone explaining the hand path this well, when I try swinging a club with the feel it feels effortless. Can't wait to try it on the range. Good one, Chris!
Thanks Matt hope it helps 🙌
Just one more thing I'de like to add..I think I've been through thousands of videos of instructors trying to teach the swing but in all honesty @ChrisRyanGolf is the ONLY one that can break down and explain anything he is trying to teach perfectly. I'm sure there are many great instructors out there but not everyone can explain with words what exactly needs to be done the way Chris does.
This lesson is crazy good. I am about a 12 with the ability to go low once in a very blue moon. I hit balls every night in my yard and over the last couple of years have gone full on to get better. I feel that much of my swing is right but something was missing. For a day anyways this was an instant game changer in so many ways. I no longer feel stuck, ball flight is way different and the contact with ball is just wow. I am not a video junky although I like a lot of Chris’s videos. I think all instructors are after the common goal of helping us improve with only the message delivery being different.
Thanks Phil appreciate that, great that you saw results quickly, a little more practice and I’d like to think those changes can become permanent
Great video getting the hands in the correct position in the downswing with the club alignment. Shaufflee does a drill for the downswing/transition, where he stamps his left foot to signal the shallowing the club. Your tip with hitting the bag on the downswing, gives you a much better feeling than just trying to drop the hands/arms. If you watch all the pros from the rear view, they all do this.
If you can master this, you’re on the right path to great golf. The other thing is the right knee has to win the race to the ball before the club head does.
Do you have a link to this video mate?
@@MJ1331EL can’t remember, but his dad was with him in the video as he’s his coach. It could have been on the LG free golf PGA channel.
@@rogerpianoking1945 yea i found it. thank man.
I was looking at slow motion videos and noticed that you can see through the pro's arms in that "delivery" position from a down the line POV. and I was like why wasn't mine like that? I was like my right elbow's down, but the club head is going out to in still. This video gave me more understanding now. Thank you Chris!
Chris this is gold, never seen a presentation of this issue before. It makes so much sense. Please do one with you, more detail and more drills on this. Can’t wait to try this, thanks much, joe.
Thanks Joe and that video has already been filmed, will be released in a few weeks time
Thanks again for the lesson Chris! That simple change has really improved my swing & I'm striking the ball better than ever. 👍
This transformed my driving. My miss has always been left, a snap hook if really bad but have also been slicing. One range session and once dialled in, I was hitting it dead straight. Cheers Chris 👍🏼
Awesome! Glad it helped
Definite advanced lesson. Great talk thru the down swing.
Awesome Chris. Thank you. I’m writing this after watching and then replaying some of my slow mo simulator videos and I can now see that I’m a bit like this student. Can’t wait to try and implement this minor change and see the results. Cheers!
Thanks Marcus
Thank you Chris, this hand path tip to shallow has curiously had a tremendous impact on eliminating my toe strikes at the same time!
Chris. Great lesson. Easy to understand. Sounds like something I need to try
Thanks Karl
Most excellent video one can watch to understand the swing.
i have the same bad downswing. I do it so I don't come over the top, so i tuck that right elbow in too quickly. Continuing my lifetime of tweaks i guess. thank you. your brilliant !
Chris, one of your best lessons yet, IMO. The hands move out (1st move) and then back into /past the leading thighs giving you solid contact / shaft lean, etc.
Excellent video.. thankyou .. lately been hitting my clubs very well but next time i go to the range i will watch this again to make sure i dont have any bad habits.
Thanks hope it helps
The "hands through impact" is brilliant....exactly what I need to work on..
Thanks, hope it helps
Thanks Chris for this insight of hand path.
Thx for this Video. One of the worthful lessons I have seen.
Thanks 🙌
Chris is a phenomenal golf coach. Great stuff here!
Videos like this are why Chris is the best! I am on the range several times a week, but would like to add a launch monitor to my "tool box." What do you recommend as the best budget minded launch monitor?
100% FullSwing Kit, fairly new to the market but incredible for the price
Thank you!
This is exactly the lesson I needed for my current golf game. I’m gonna go mess around with the “tipping” mechanism via grip until I get the intuition.
You and Danny Maude help me as much as I can be helped.
That’s great to hear, Danny has some incredible content so glad we have been able to help
This is why Faldo/Leadbetter drill is so good, most folk think it’s a backswing drill… but you are presetting impact.
Exactly, an old one but still one of the best
Amaaaaaaazing video. This was exactly my problem
This reminds me a bit of Hogan’s drill minus the leg/body action. I encourage the viewer to watch the video where Hogan politely demonstrates how the lower body drives the downswing. Hogan doesn’t talk about it directly in the footage, but one can see as he makes the “real” swing, that late in the downswing his forearms unfold downward in front of his body… bringing his hands in closer to the body… tipping the club late which leads to the squaring of the club. It’s also a powerful move that creates that image of the tremendous lag he had.
Fantastic. Great message and delivery. Bravo
Thanks David appreciate it 🙌
Watching you give this lesson just hits different from other instructors talking to the camera. Great stuff!
Should the same exercise be used with the driver?
Thanks, yeah absolutely same move would also apply with driver
Have not heard this before. Makes so much sense.
Thanks 🙌
Really well explained. Thank you.
@chris Ryan. I am a 12 handicap that has an over the top swing. I am swinging at about 115. Happy to do a probono series where you get me to a 5 handicap lol just tell me where and when!!!!
Yes god damn it, the best drill/tip/video I´ve ever used!👍 I just came home from the range and it really works, it´s almost stupid how good it works. This and more patience in the swing, don´t rush it, will make you hit the ball much better 😀
Love this, glad it helped.
Chris Excellent. Question. The preset "Faldo" drill has the face slightly OPEN to the plane, toe at this point should be pointing slightly to target line.How do YOU overcome this minor problem. Believe You covered several months back. Thanks Ray
Great video chris!
This video is perfect for me. This is exactly what I do is get steep and I pull draw my irons
Brilliant tip!
Well done Chris 👏
Thanks Roy
Absolutely fire! 🔥
Thanks 🙌🙌
One of these days I’ll get a lesson like this. I know I’m losing a good bit of distance because of my swing. It’s not terrible by any means, but I’m certain it doesn’t look like his finished product. In my fitting for the 790s I was getting 175-180 constantly, but I know with the correct swing and rotation, I could be atleast 15 yds farther.
Hi Chris what launch monitor are you using?
A very informative lesson 👍
Thanks Michael
great tip
Ok I got it. Where do I sign up for PGA?
Good one 👍
Good work…
Mega Video Chris
Thanks
If I had this lesson I'd have it video recorded so I can see it all from the outside (just like this video). The problem with swing coaching you don't see this of yourself the same manner and walk away back to old habits. Best to review and review yourself the video then take it to the range.
This is a much better way to describe a correct inside club path. Everyone is talking about this idea of “putting your hands in your back pocket”
For someone who needs to feel something that’s real and can *actually* happen, the problem is that you can’t *actually* put your hands in your pocket during a swing……sorry to break the news to everyone. Hahaha.
Follow u more than anyone in Golf. But conflicted between this and Mike Malaska. Can you comment or offer a video on swallowing?
Yeah I’ve had similar comments like this previously in regards to Mike, having watched some of his content o believe we are quite similar in what we coach, the timing is key, he likes the hands to move inwards a little earlier but it’s a very similar move I think
Great, exactly the problem I’ve got😀😀😀
Hope it helps
differ to Mike Malska (so called Malaska move)
How do I get a lesson with you??
I offer online lessons through my website ChrisRyanGolf.com
@@ChrisRyanGolf what about in person (£ how much)
@@timmorgan5631 I’m not currently taking on any new clients I’m afraid Tim, so just online at the moment
@@ChrisRyanGolf shame...
What is Toms handicap. thanks
15 I believe, certainly around that
Meanwhile Brison Dechambeau says think like putting your hands in your right pocket in the downswing which is the complete opposite … there is no sport where coaches are saying more contradicting things
Me and Bryson are saying exactly the same things, he is talking about how the arms should work relative to the torso, they should move down and off the body, I completely agree with that, but in this case his arms were working down and behind his body, he just needed some tweaking. Often the info syncs up but the understanding of they info is what creates the confusion
Thank you for the reply, rewatching with that in mind I think I understand better what you mean. Obviously the short metaphor of BD saying hands in the right pocket in a short video clip might also have been missing some key informations sorry for comparing that into the video here, but I also totally agree on the transportation of understanding universally being an extremely difficult task especially online
7.52 there is no way that shot carried 150. No way that club was 90mph.
I would say just the opposite. Get his transition right and that will fix his steepness on the way down. While I wouldn’t say never monkey around with the hands to fix something in 99% of the cases it is fix things from the ground up. If he transitioned correctly the club would never tip over from where he had it.
We got pretty good results this way, have him more that what he was after when he came in, but I’d never ever claim that my way is the best or the only way, just how I see it. His lead arm externally rotated too early in the downswing, which part of the transition do you see influencing the lead arm?
There's a piece of plywood right in front of the ball. Ram the butt of the grip through the plywood. Poof, lag city. Blow that plywood apart and watch the ball fly. Forget positions and all that crap.
My hands aren’t fast enough to get anywhere near square from there.
Poor audio.
Really, seems ok when I watch it back, any particular sections?
No problems with audio when I watched it
@@ChrisRyanGolf audio is fine
Why do you spend so much time talking about what he's doing wrong? Just show us what to do right.
Guess it’s just the way I coach, if someone just me what to do if want to know why, how there different to what I currently do, I believe the more someone understands the whole picture the more likely they are to own the change
I'm sorry but your explanation is a fallacy!!
No need to be sorry about your opinion
Really enjoyed that 👍🏼 these lesson videos are so helpful 🏌🏼♂️