Simpler, Easier, Self Correcting Process To Create Segment Rings

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In this video, I show my current process to create segmented rings. I used to glue rings all at onece or as half rings using band clamps. However, I have now adopted a gluing technique I learned from a pattern maker in Oregon. In this simple technique, segments have glue spread on one surface. Then, rubbing two segments together spreads the glue, squeezes out the excess glue, and starts to grab or set. The segments are then set aside while other pairs are glued together. Usually, pairs can then be glued together into half rings as soon as the last pair is rubbed together. I usually give the half rings at least 20-30 minutes (depending on temperature) before sanding the mating surface and again using the rub technique to glue the two halves together.
For me, using this technique means:
- no cutting wood crumbs to disrupt a all at once ring glue;
- no need to precisely mill wood before cutting segments;
- no risk from dust in my sled;
- no risk from slight slips in segment length.
- no risk from many more sources.
This process is self correcting.
Other required gear:
My updated segment sled is 12"x16" and uses 2 universal t-tracks for more versatility in alternate uses.
Saw throat insert with a slant board to enable cut segments to fall away from the saw blade when cut.
Segment Length stop.
Digital angle protractor(!) or various fixed angle templates.
Link to 3D printable angle templates.
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Parchment paper or waxed paper is a great gluing surface.
Enjoy!
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[@charlesreicks648]

I also like Earl's Small Segmented shop. Thanks Tim

[@AsWoodTurns]

No objection here. Looks like he has some nice projects.
Alan

[@williamellis8993]

I've seen similar variations on this, Alan, but it's always interesting and informative to see other people's techniques. Stay safe.
Bill

[@AsWoodTurns]

Glad you enjoyed it Bill
Alan

[@hfbowerndesigns810]

Thanks for sharing the process and the new jigs.
Take care Alan
Cheers
Harold

[@AsWoodTurns]

Thanks for watching Harold
Alan

[@alberthancock4237]

I've used this procedure for a while. I am not sure exactly where I learned the process. A lot through experience. I agree with everything you said. It makes the ring making process a snap. I use a Pete Marken sled I purchased, as I am always short of time and I'd rather be turning than making tools. With the Marken sled being so accurate, I can cut numerous pieces, and almost never need to take it to the sander. You do great work and make videos that are interesting and easy to understand. Keep up the good work

[@AsWoodTurns]

Thank you. Since I have learned pieces from a lot of places, it cannot be totally unique. :)
Alan

[@mikewilson5392]

i have a marken sled as well- haven't found anything any better

[@valeriehenschel1590]

Love the new sled version!

[@AsWoodTurns]

I prefer it also
Alan

[@LewisKauffman]

Thank You!

[@AsWoodTurns]

Welcome! Lewis
Alan

[@glencrandall7051]

Nice modification to the original wedgie sled. Thank you for sharing.

[@AsWoodTurns]

Thanks for watching Glen
Alan

[@tomcoker9882]

Alan, Starting at about the 6:25 point; could you expand on the “squiggles” and their use please, to include “top”, “short side” and “long side”. Also what determined what piece went into which of the two groups. Thanks. Cheers, Tom

[@AsWoodTurns]

Before sawing, mark the top of the board with a squiggle. Also mark one edge. one pile has top squiggle and side squiggle on long side. the other pile has top squiggle and side squiggle on short side.
Although the process is self correcting, alternating the side squiggles is hopefully cancelling error.
Hope this helps
Alan

[@tomcoker9882]

@@AsWoodTurns Thanks, that make sense to me now. Cheers, Tom

[@jaysimmons2319]

A little lost by your comments about the addition of the T track to the sled and the advantages over the single pivot arms of the previous sleds. What advantages does the T track give you?

[@AsWoodTurns]

For segmenting, the two designs are nearly equal. T-track has a slight advantage for the width of segment that fits between the arms. For those not familiar with routing arcs, installing t-track is easier. The major advantage is that I can use it for non-segmented angle.
Alan

[@jamesbrunk9817]

Can you show how you set the angles on the sled in relation to the blade?

[@AsWoodTurns]

That is the job of the angle template shown in the video. Place it between the arms and tighten them down.
The additional refinement is to first set one arm with the short side of the template at the saw side and aligned to the edge of the sled. Then set the other arm.
While this refinement is not critical, it is better for new segmented turners. Otherwise, there is a pinwheel effect. Either way, the angle is correct.
Alan

[@stuartscott9646]

Gee, wonder who that patternmaker from Oregon could be? ;)

[@AsWoodTurns]

I wish I could remember his name to better thank him. The courses I took were is SW Portland in the Tigard area.
Alan

[@williamellis8993]

Stuart were you thinking of Gary?

[@stuartscott9646]

@@williamellis8993 Absolutely!

[@davidvance8843]

Do a you tube search for segmentology:.or wedgie sled.

[@AsWoodTurns]

Wedgie sled should yield quite a few examples of the sled. I prefer a new model made with universal t-track rather than pivots.
Segmentology is "advanced" concepts.
Alan