Colleen Hoover's TV Show is HORRIBLE...
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Hey guys, I found out Colleen Hoover has an obscure TV show and I NEEDED to talk about it immediately.
Intro - 0:00
Episode 1 - 2:52
Episode 2 - 10:28
Episode 3 - 15:02
Episode 4 - 20:59
Episode 5 - 27:43
Episode 6 - 33:30
The Finale - 39:40
Plot Twist??? - 44:12
Bye bye - 45:27
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Roasting your son for the trust fund YOU set up for him is wild
I think it was meant to be delivered as a joke but it came off like the dad was stupid or something....or Coleen just forgot the lore of her own story (wouldn't be a surprise)
Yeah. And i thought he would be happy his son is making money.
So what are you mad about?
I think there are a number of people who set up trust funds for their kids and then resent their kid for getting an easier start in life. I see it a lot online.
FRRR like bro u ARE the trust fund
Wild bro
How the hell has Colleen tripped and fell her way into having big ass opportunities
like having her own movie when her books are the novel equivalent of those dark psychology imagines on tiktok 😔😔😔
Not to imply that it probably has to do with being straight, white, and seemingly on board with a very conservative agenda.
But.
LMFAO WHY R U SO REAL
Colleen makes me feel like I can be a writer,… but not in an inspiring way ?
@@Loh24158 she inspired me to write a hisoka x that Pervert guy from family giy smut story on wattpad.
Real 💀💀
I genuinely can’t believe that some people like her books
And in a romantic way. . Like they actually think its good romance..
I remember when I innocently saw someone on Instagram reccomend one of her books. Worst mistake of my life
People like all sorts of things. It’s not that hard to believe especially when most of us are former wattpad fans. You know what it’s like to love shitty story like these, why shit on it now?
@frenchgirl5878 Because those were appealing to 13 year olds not grown women. Also, we shit on current Wattpad readers, and those books have more substance.
i saw one person who did a video on colleen hoover defend the people who like her books (not defending the books tho) by pointing out that a lot of women who read them are ones who didnt read fanfic as preteens/teens and her writing fulfills that fanfic phase the rest of us had and grew from. also her writing is all very simple and in shorter sentences so it's easier to read and feels like a break compared to other better-written books, which helps non-readers get into reading before they move on to more complicated and thought-out books
plus, you gotta admit even though they're shitty books they're pretty entertaining lmao gotta see how they end yknow
edit- here's the video: czcams.com/video/je0CDQmO4sg/video.htmlsi=HgbxF19V-cn5AKJW
How is Auburn 21, with a 5 year old child, if her last time was 10 years ago with her dead boyfriend (when they were 11?) I'm so confused
Ask Colleen Hoover 😭
I was looking for this!! I was like, sumthin ain't adding up 😂
I thought that I misheard 21 instead of 31 because otherwise what the hell????? this doesn't make any sense????
Also that kid is like 8 at least
@@sevenratsinaburlapsackand the main actress is like 30
Yeah the caesarean scar caress is scaring you (and me) bc Hoover is obsessed with birth, forced birth, and pregnancy 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Yeah, why do all of her female characters get pregnant against their will?
And why are kids always dying in her books?
Tf is forced birth??
@@Rowanda7361 Generally speaking, it's being forced to give birth after non-consensual acts led to a pregnancy
what the actual fuck :(@@cupcakesoup
I feel like threatening to expose an artist for being into drugs is pretty lame. Like finding out an artist does drugs is usually just kinda… yeah. I’d be more surprised if they didn’t.
Fr
As an artist, I can't really disagree with you...
Fork found in kitchen kinda deal
Right like you're making art without drugs? Like not even caffeine?
@@NdieCityI'm sorry caffeineheads. Coffee and energy drinks taste like shit. I would rather do actual drugs.
I have no idea who’s telling Colleen Hoover to keep cooking, but my god is it getting her a bag
Not that shes producing objectively good things, but LORD if I just had to shit on paper for infinite money hack, I’d be doing it too
@@nemui3454Fr but I'd at least not romanticize abuse?? I'd make books like Fourth Wing nonstop and just let booktok eat it up every time. The author of fourth wing may be awful but at least their book wasn't toxic romance. It was just dumb.
@@ettaetta439 not condoning what she writes or anything, but her fanbase truly is different
Exactly, so why criticise her if you would do the same in her position? Do you not notice the cognitive dissonance in your statement? Full of judgement for something you would also do.
@@frenchgirl5878 What.
nobody's talked about it because whenever they start writing a script or writing down bullet points Colleen climbs out of the nearest screen and burns every good book they own
It's true she did that to me :(
she came in through my window
Now there needs to be a MeatCanyon video made about her. However, I’m sure Canyon wouldn’t exist anymore if that happened.
@@chatteringbird9416 Great Beatles song
Yall rocking with the new dope hair ⁉️⁉️⁉️
Hell yea
Yeaaaaa
Yeass
HELL YEAH
YESSSSS
Yes, more Colleen Hoover slander!! I will never get tired of this
It ain't slander if it's true 😂
Real
Same
Every time I picture the love interest in any Colleen Hoover book, I picture MGK. Why did they not get him to play anyone in this show.
OMG WHAT!???? Two??
Wait. Why are you right??
*OMG, PLEASE!*
You aren't wrong though, MGK is ick personified
Perfect casting, you’re a genius, dude
As someone who had a MAJOR pill addiction.. if he’s a long time addict, a handful won’t do much! When I broke my back at 22, the drs eventually put me on 2, 80 mg OxyContins a day, PLUS 4, 8 mg dilaudid(what they legit give cancer patients). My body was sooo addicted, when my prescriptions were stolen by a “friend,” I would take it to 80 hydrocodones a day, to equal the strength of the other two pain meds I was on. It’s wild!
Thank u for educating us! Also congrats on sobriety ❤️ you’re amazing
Hey I feel you on that shit! I do H && oxys + norcos + Zan's legit just make me feel "normal" when I can't get dope. It's crazy AF && I've been an addict for 14years, so yes I can confirm with his comment, when your addicted to opiates, taking a handful of them will just make you feel "normal" ((also depending on your tolerance level, you might get a lil bit high, it all just depends person to person))
@@FrootLoopz88r u sober
@@not.bellah at this very moment, sadly, no I am not.
@@FrootLoopz88hope u can beat it man
the red head main character of this plays daphne in “switched at birth” which was a abc family (now freeform) show. it was PEAK 2010s teen media and her acting was actually pretty good. i’m not sure what went wrong here 😭
So I loved Switched at Birth and after searching her once I found that she's in tons of other cringey Hallmark type shows, and is the same way in all of those as this one Seemed like Switched at Birth was really her only decent acting job. 😅
tbf i think switched at birth probably catered more to her acting style due to how exaggerated facial expressions sometimes have to be in asl in order to get the correct meaning or intent of a word across. because you can definitely see her over exaggerated faces there too, they just fit better alongside sign language’s mouth morphemes and hand movements.
@@tictactoast very true- good point.
Omg yea I was trying to figure out where I knew her from!
i thought she looked familiar
To be fair, I can understand a mother going through a custody case completely cutting off a guy that's having legal trouble. That's the kind of shit that a vengeful ex (or in this case mother in law) will bring up as an example of you having poor judgement...
Totally agree but don’t understand why she wouldn’t ask him to elaborate 😭??? Like u really don’t want to know what happened?
@@nikkicarreon Fair
yeah, but honestly i feel like a lot of times authors need to skirt around realistic behavior and go for behavior that makes comprehensive sense, because things that would be normal or excusable in real life can be REALLY unbearable or confusing in a character- people are complex and unpredictable in real life, but that complexity and spontaneity just comes off as nonsensical or out of character when applied to a fictional person. people aren't made to make sense, and it's not human to be logical and sensical all the time. characters are meant to (for the most part) not be confusing or nonsensical, and their decisions should have some logic or reasoning that the reader can interpret and understand (again, in most cases. some characters are made to seem confusing and wrong, and i think a lot of these characters can work- but those are usually carefully made and intentionally like that, so it comes off in a way readers can comprehend and appreciate). sorry for the little rant, i've just noticed a lot of artists and authors (and just creators in general) making the mistake of having their characters say or do something kind of weird because a real life person could realistically react that way, when there HAS to be some degree of separation. hence why you don't see fictional characters use the bathroom, cough, sneeze, stutter, or use "um" and "uh" in conversations. that kind of realism doesn't really have a place in characters, even realistic ones. there wasn't really a focus on how katniss managed to find time to take a shit in the hunger games, but i honestly think that's for the better (they also never mention how she dealt with her period, but she's under a lot of stress and malnutrition and has been for a long time, so her not menstruating honestly makes more sense than if she was). anyways yeah rant over so sorry 😭
before i say anything, i would like to note that the example that you were referring to actually isn't a super bad offender- i think her decision to break up with owen was fairly logical, all things considered. i just rant whenever anyone gives me the smallest opportunity because i went to yapper university and graduated with a degree in yammering. that being said, i feel like a lot of times authors need to skirt around realistic behavior and go for behavior that makes comprehensive sense, because things that would be normal or excusable in real life can be REALLY unbearable or confusing in a character- people are complex and unpredictable in real life, but that complexity and spontaneity just comes off as nonsensical or out of character when applied to a fictional person. people aren't made to make sense, and it's not human to be logical and sensical all the time. characters are meant to (for the most part) not be confusing or nonsensical, and their decisions should have some logic or reasoning that the reader can interpret and understand (again, in most cases. some characters are made to seem confusing and wrong, and i think a lot of these characters can work- but those are usually carefully made and intentionally like that, so it comes off in a way readers can comprehend and appreciate). sorry for the little rant, i've just noticed a lot of artists and authors (and just creators in general) making the mistake of having their characters say or do something kind of weird because a real life person could realistically react that way, when there HAS to be some degree of separation. hence why you don't see fictional characters use the bathroom, cough, sneeze, stutter, or use "um" and "uh" in conversations. that kind of realism doesn't really have a place in characters, even realistic ones. there wasn't really a focus on how katniss managed to find time to take a shit in the hunger games, but i honestly think that's for the better (they also never mention how she dealt with her period, but she's under a lot of stress and malnutrition and has been for a long time, so her not menstruating honestly makes more sense than if she was). anyways yeah rant over so sorry 😭
The only good thing I can say about Confess is that Owen is probably one of the least creepy of Colleen's male leads. The bar for that is in hell, but still.
he’s decent at least
also just a note... auburn is 21 in current, but the flashback was ten years ago? does that mean she was supposed to be 11 in that scene??
… OML‼️‼️
Certified Colleen Hoover moment
As a 21 year old now, 10 years ago she was 16 when her bf died, but somehow has a 5 year old son with him? Lol
and in the begining it said that she had the baby at 16??? how does that make sense
@@Whos_4n4 i guess her boyfriend's sperm has a lifespan of 5 years???... 😭😭😭
katie leclerc is hard of hearing and she spent most of her career playing a Deaf character. ASL requires being super expressive, so that might have something to do with it.
I didn’t know this! And I’m sorry if my comments make anyone uncomfortable, however, I just found out a TON of actors I admire are hard of hearing as well, including Halle Berry!! Hard of hearing does not = bad acting and I think it’s fair to criticize Katie at least a LITTLE about lip biting 😭
Oh, so she is hard of hearing? I heard she faked it or something. 😓
back when i was a switched at birth fan, i read she had progressive hearing loss from meniere's disease. never saw anything to dispute that.
halle berry was a shock, right? especially that it happened because of dv. i didn't mean to imply you're wrong for having a problem with her performance! bad acting is bad acting. i was just giving some context.
@@cacography It's okay! I appreciate the information!
WE SUPPORT THE COLLEEN HOOVER CONTENT!! someone’s gotta watch/read that shit🙏
Doing it so we don't gotta 🙏🙏🙏 true heros
emphasis on shit lmaoo
@@Ghuu1ish REAL 😭
@@Ghuu1ish EXACTLYY xD
The guy with the good skin who had a half mil $ path to sobriety discussing relationship gossip while the tiredest looking man on the face of the planet stares painfully into the abyss is a real thing ive experienced.
I love these videos about Colleens stuff, cause I get to talk to my partner about them, and he is always absolutely staggered that she actually isn't a writer of horror.
I feel like she's missing out on a bag because her books are all formatted like horrors🤧
@@SpiritBox01 She really is. Her stuff is always unintentionally horrifying lmao
@@SpiritBox01honestly tho, Verity genuinely could’ve been a good horror/thriller if she binned the lactation kink and got more gritty and gory with it
unfortunately her book verity, which is an ACTUAL horror, still sucks so maybe there's no hope for her😭
@@urdadsleftasshole69 oml if that's the one I saw someone else review, with the manuscript plot device, holy moly did it seem rough! Funnily enough that was one that had my partner completely reeling. He got so angry at the ending lol.
Honestly, Auburn dumping Owen for being arrested is the smartest thing she could have done. That would absolutely be used against her in a custody battle. So a CoHo heroine finally does the smart thing, but will undoubtedly undo that before long
Idk, he does still have that rich lawyer daddy. Dudes with parents like that tend to see their problems magically disappear.
"scratch that, he'll feel like it's Hanukah all night long" but... but Hanukah's already 8 nights, how does that joke even wo- nevermind forget it
Even her first joke didn't work because Christmas also lasts all night!
No way I’d ever be able to process this TERRIBLE show without your jokes. You got me wheeze laughing one second and then the next I’m in pain from the Colleen Hoover writing
ARRIANA ? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
I DID NOT JUST GET JOSH HUCHERSONED NOT EVEN 5 MINUTES IN. NIKKI WHY?!?!?!?!?!??!?!111?!
I think that his dad isn’t necessarily making fun of his trust fund, more like making fun of the fact that he’s trying to appear all cool and boho to these women around him. And then his dad spoils it by being like “ah don’t let him fool you he’s a trust fund baby! Just like me.” Like trying to get the people around his son to turn against him.
"Sexually repressed individuals"
*shows weezer*
40% (*reported*) so definitely not a shocker the cop ended up being a rapist/domestic abuser sheesh Colleen pullin through with a plot point that actually checks out
And people wonder why i fucking hate the police and the justice system.
AUBURN's roommate is named EMORY? What's their neighbor named, The University of Alabama?
his name is yale, he lives with his girlfriend harvard, and his two dogs, brown and socal 😔
This is the only way I can consume Colleen’s material
petition for Nikki to write a book bc honestly the way you’re connecting the dots in Colleen’s shambles of broken plot… amazing
1:50 HELP I GOT AN AD RIGHT BEFORE JOSH HUTCHERSON AND I DEADASS JUMPED IN MY SEAT I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT 💀💀
I'm always down for Colleen Hoover slander
Soooo…i find it a little weird that all her books have someone who is/gets pregnant…at least the books that I know about
It's weird as fuck
definitely a pregnancy k!nk on her part :/
Seeing Sherilyn Fenn (Twin Peaks), Katie Leclerc (Switched at birth/Community), and Kyle Secor (Tales From The Crypt/Veronica Mars) all gave me three, seperate jumpscares😭😭
She was in Switched at Birth, but for some reason her acting was better back then.
Probably had a better script and director.
Someone else in these comments pointed out that it might be because ASL requires exaggerated facial expressions so her role as Daphne just worked with her acting style.
@@Darkrose517 I know but she had played other roles before and has done a good job.
Agreed! It's 100% the material
You dredging this up had the same vibes as "a politician paid 500,000$ to remove this from the internet, it would be a shame if I posted it on twitter" energy and honestly, power move.
Also Owen looks like Chris Pratt and I can't decide who that's an insult to more, Owen or Chris Pratt.
Don't worry we'll never get tired of you talking about Colleen Hoover
I just realised how much of an uncanny resemblance colleen hoover has with Amy Schuemer and I am kinda not surprised
Holy shit why is Audrey from Twin Peaks in Colleen Hoover's TV show???? 😭
I was literally going through the comment section to see if anyone else was as baffled by this as i was
I feel sorry for her for having to be in it. I've met her, she's a nice lady. Colleen didn't deserve her 😡
Seeing Sherilyn Fenn knocked the wind out of me omg
This dumpster fire and Twin Peaks: the Return seem to have been filmed around the same time. So we have Colleen Hoover to blame for the lack of Audrey scenes in The Return!
The only good thing to ever come out of The Idol: me finding this channel! You keep delivering gems!
Please do not stop making the Colleen Hoover content!! Thank you for your sacrifice
oh i thought the mystery bad guy would be the ex-girlfriend
The ex girlfriend is probably the most normal person in the show 😭 she just leaves and dgaf
@@nikkicarreon she's so smart omg
Ever since you started making these videos, I have noticed so many people in real life reading and enjoying these books. Someone I know personally posted a 10/10 review for several of her books. I can't believe people actually enjoy her books and don't think they are disgustingly problematic/offensive.
Because they wouldn't know good literature if it slapped them in the face
Colleen Hoover is for people who didn’t have a wattpad phase
BYE, I THOUGHT I ESCAPED JOSH HUTCHERSON
Omg I'm so stupid I got Colleen balinger and Colleen hoover confused and was wondering why Balinger would write a romance book unironically💀
Oh I'm glad I'm not the only one, I immediately went "oh God she got a show too???"
no because i used to get them mixed up SO much
1:50 I can't believe Nikki just Josh'ed us💔💔💔
Armpit cutting shirts are the worst! I have pretty bad sensory issues with clothing. I absolutely can't wear jeans even tho I love them because they're cute!
What if you put leggings or tights on underneath? Or would that be too warm?
future me, does the video contain Josh Hutcherson 2014 whistle edit?
I’m not you, but yes it does
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HOW DOES SHE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
A couple of months ago, I knew nothing about Colleen Hoover. Now, thanks to your videos and a plethora of others, I can safely say that I have been scarred for life by the content of her books. And now I find out she has a whole SHOW??? I don't care if it's almost 4 AM, I need to watch you dissect this inevitable train wreck
U could literally talk about anything and i’d watch it. i love to hear you talk about how weird this woman is 😭😭
What is with Colleen Hoover writing all these men to have tragic backstories to “explain” their shitty behavior???? it’s just lazy writing at this point
If it was revealed that Trey had involvement in the drug planting then I’m sure his lawyer could figure something out considering he works for the police department & the money / connections the family has.
Imagine finding out that grandma was in a tv show but this was her role
No way I just got josh hutchsoned on CZcams😭
custody is handled by family court while criminal charges are held in criminal court so you are correct that it could not happen
At this point we need a drinking game for Colleen-related media. Drink whenever a car accident that’s meant to induce sympathy or guilt is mentioned 🍹 🍹 🍹
I've been loving these Colleen videos. Thank you for your sacrifice 😂❤
Hello, nobody’s talking about how we just got whistled
After an AWFUL day this is exactly what I neededddd 😭😭😭 Love your videos man!!
Haven’t finished the video yet, but I can’t believe I just got Josh hutchersoned again.
The way colleen literally took your life
nikki!! your channel has been so much fun to watch, I showed your vids to my partner and sisters we all think you’re really funny
hope to see more stuff on nikkiland too!
I’ve seen this actress before in a show called Switched at Birth and I can confirm she always makes the same face and nose scrunch when she wants to convey she’s oh so angry 😂
That actually makes sense. I'm pretty sure she's deaf or HOH and exaggerated facial expressions are part of deaf communication to set tone
@@elle8786she’s HOH yeah
@@elle8786 Exaggerated facial expressions are not an issue, I think what’s a bit off is the choice of expressions. Would she have control over that as a HOH actor or not so much? Do you know?
shes deaf, its common in asl to make more exaggerated facial features to help get your point and tone across
Yeah, but it wasn't as often as it was in this show
Arm pitcutting t-shirtclub here, HUNNY YOU NEED TO TRY THE MENS SECTIONS 👏 the reason it cuts is because we have shoulders and fashion has decided we shouldn’t xD so there isn’t enough fabric there. The linings/stitching of your armpit/sleeve should line up around the top of your shoulder ball/point :)
A women M cuts for me eventho its my size where a mens XS does not
this plot is literally reminders of him but just a little different what the fuck 😭😭 also why do the main characters look like the main characters of it ends with us what. and why were all the characters played by people a decade older than the character?? LAWD THIS IS SO GOOFY
I’ve actually never read a CH book. But that’s not because I didn’t try, I’ve tried and tried but literary can’t get past like chapter 10 maximum. Normally I tapped out at chapter 5. Thank goodness for the library so I didn’t have to spend a cent on books I literally couldn’t force myself to finish. I was trying to read her books during the CH renaissance so I literally felt like I was the only one who didn’t enjoy her books. Everyone and their mother could not stop talking about her old books, her new books how amazing everything was. And I was like 🤨 did we read the same 5 chapters. But I kept my big mouth shut (for fear of the CH Stans) and then the most blessed thing happened people started to become brave (braver then my chicken self) and come out of the woodworks to say “I don’t like her or her books” and I felt so validated. So no I will never get tired of hearing people talk about her negatively. Because at this point she lowkey (highkey) deserves it.
Bless you for uploading. I’m drunk and craved new videos from you after finishing your verity vid
1:51 I THOUGHT I WAS FUCKIBG SAFE WHAT TGE HELL WHY IS HE EVERYWHERE
Im literally so obsessed with this colleen hoover series, Ur the only creator I watch abt this topic since I love how funny you are. Putting these videos on in the background while I do homework is the best thing Ive discovered and I'll never get tired of you humor. TYSM for the hours of entertainment I appriciate it!!
About the end. Since they didn’t get his consent to record him, no they couldn’t use it in a legal setting.
Wait I googled it & it says the story is based in Dallas. Texas is a one party consent state. But if this were in like California or somewhere with two party consent it wouldn’t be legal to record without someone’s permission.
@@kaylahaas that is absolutely horrifying but thanks for the info. I figured it was the same everywhere in the US.
Nikki I love that you go through life referencing spongebob bc I do the same and not very many people around me get it 😔
at 36:03, i think the reason aj whips the curtains open is bc he has a fear of closed off spaces he can’t see like showers with the curtains drawn & closed closets. when i was a kid i was deathly afraid of closets & i would always be ready to fight a bitch whenever i threw open shower curtains bc like… what if there’s a monster in there & i can’t see it?? if i was aj i would’ve shit my pants if i found a stranger man in there (even though i grew out of that fear)
You’re giving coho way too much credit
I saw another video on this in my feed and I was waiting for you to cover it! 😭
i will NEVER get tired of watching you review colleen hoover, i could watch these forever (esp your book reviews, they’re incredible, please do more if you want to!!!!)
ahhh thank god you credited caleb
This being Sherilyn Feen’s career post-Twin Peaks is actually so bleak
Ah fuck, I have the same name as a Colleen Hoover character. It’s so over
As someone with a c-section scar, seeing him RUB on it gave me major heebee jeebee’s 😑🙅🏻♀️ the scar is super sensitive and I get a trauma response anytime anything touches it
I never realized the grandma is actually AUBREY from TWIN PEAKS…COLLEEN IS CANON IN THE TWIN PEAKS UNIVERSE.
please don't say this...
an upload at 2am.. ms carreon you are insane. keep up the good work
found your channel from your collab with annamarie forcino, and you're such a vibrant and engaging creator! looking forward to more :)
would love love love a pt 2 to the gosling video!
I cannot escape josh hutcherson not even from CZcams 😭
Can’t even escape the Josh Hutcherson edit on CZcams 🥹😭 1:50
Not to be that person but it’s likely that they used a stuffed cat instead of a real one because cats are incredibly hard to work with on film sets, while dogs will follow commands almost immediately cats are more likely to misbehave or just not listen or ruin shots! It’s an expensive risk most are not willing to take
STOP THE JOSH HUTCHERSON YOURE RUINING MY LIFE
I watched Caleb's video and now found yours. I live for your Colleen Slander 💗
I hear colleen hoover, i cry, then i click, i cant resisttt
I clicked right when I got the notification I love your videos
I did not just get Josh Hutchersoned.
somehow colleen hoover looks exactly like what i expected her to look like
How did nikki know i couldn’t sleep and needed a video to watch ❤
Your hair always looks AMAZING! I wanna try dark blue but I'm red right now so it would take a lot of work...
Omg is the grandma Audrey from Twin Peaks ???!!!!
I can’t believe I was Josh hutcherson’d by U
Girl you're so funny and the editing is top notch. Makes my night after a long tiresome work day!
love this video, this actress is actually deaf IRL she was trying to read lips. I can’t image trying to deliver lines perfectly with the disability of not hearing the other lines being said, She did great
why the hell is josh hutcherson here 😭😭 i thought i escaped him
every time u post my metaphorical tail wags sm