How To Mod A Tube Screamer
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Thanks! I just picked up a TS9 at the thrift store for $30 with the idea to give it to my step son for Christmas. I just so happened to have all the parts laying around for these mods, so now he’s getting a modded ts9.
This is seriously the coolest channel on CZcams.
Thanks so much to you and Eric for showing how to do things like this! You guys are great!
Thank you so much Zach!
It's funny how that cap range is also part of the Fender AB763 circuit (black panel amps). You'll find both the .1 and the .047. The human ear must have a pretty specific range that it likes to hear music! Great channel, great video, keep up the good work!
i've always been weary of pedals because i figured id be messing around with pedals more than actual playing lol. but, i just got my first tube screamer from my pops(at 33 years old). An i was spoiled becuase it was already modded. and its the only pedal i own. i love it, an i am now going down the rabbit hole of pedal addiction that i was weary of at the beginning xD
So happy you are getting into pedals!
CZcams needs more stuff like this!! nice video. My first TS i made it myself two years ago, now i´m working for another one for a friend, please upload more videos with mods for pedals. Greetings from Chile!
no problem thanks for watching!
$40 (floor demo) suggestion from the guitar store guy in 96. First dose of OD addiction.
My 9, my DS 1 and my Vox wah all 96 and modded in 01; took a chance totally worth it.
Have 2 cool little 'boost' schems on the clipboard because it just never stops. Great show, thanks.
now that is a great deal Carol!
I love this channel so much.
Same
thank you so much!
I am amazed that a new tube screamer still has the original 80s circuit board and is not surface mount! I have never owned a real tube screamer lmao ... I had an 80s Boss DS-1, in the 80s, which i replaced with an OD-2.
I was suprised too!
I love my €10 heated solder sucker.
cheers!
I was just telling my wife last night how much I wanted a TS mod video that shows how to get more low end! I even mentioned the Doom Screamer when I was telling her what I wanted to see!
Ask and ye shall receive, I guess.
Thanks!!!
hahhahahhaha we are somehow on the same wave length! Maybe you'll be able to guess one of the next videos
Got my first TS9 at 12...my dads bands bassist left it at our house and said I could play around with it. Since he didn’t really use it, he never asked for it back.
At the time I was using a Roland jazz chorus and it sounded awful for getting hi gain punk rock tones I was after so I didn’t think I liked them or pedals much at all. I found tube amps like the 5150 to give me the sound I was after.
Many years later I found the clean boosting thing into high gain and was back into the TS world.
Currently I have an MXR GT-OD which is a sort of TS808 that can switch to an SD1 via internal switch, and a TS mini.
I still have a love hate thing for that clean signal that’s part of that feedback loop when I’m using it as a regular overdrive (so it’s relegated to only stacking with other drives for solos or as a clean boost into a dirty amp), but I just can’t quit the good old Tube Screamer.
Cool video. You explain things really good and that helps take the anxious away from trying this myself.
I appreciate that!
I have a Demonfx TS clone with switch for TS808 and TS9. I absolutely HATED it. Single coils, HB, hollow bodied with HB didn’t matter - I couldn’t get passed the nasal squawk. For years I’d put it away then pull it once or twice a year. Made me want to vomit.
I finally tried some of these mods figuring I hated the pedal already and if I F-ed it up no great loss.
I did the asymmetrical mod and still hated the sound. I then replaced the cap with a 0.15uF instead of 0.1 you recommended. Still figuring no great loss if I screwed up. Well I did melt the pcb a bit but WOW I now love this pedal!
I didn’t bother with the resistor mod since I didn’t want more gain since I only use low gain.
I can’t thank you enough for turning this funky green paperweight (yup) into a favorite! I do think I need to invest in a better soldering iron though.
I’m so happy to hear the mod went well and now you like the way it sounds!
I use instead, tc electronic tube pilot adding to the second triode of the 12ax7 tube an 0.1mf grid to ground, 0.1mf grid to cathode and a 25 mfd cathode to ground. Then it is close to transparent with full gain tone. Amazing.
Jay here from Brazil.
My first tube screamer is actually a Nux od-3 a clone, and I can use it to play basically anything.
Like, I usually put some gain on my clean signal and use the cranked over drive to achieve a fuzz texture.
nice!
NUX are the best chinese builder going. Their Verdugo series is what made me stand up and notice, and their NPB-5 bass preamp is a serious piece of kit for the money that rivals anything darkglass doesn't make.
I used to like overdrive pedals and I have 3 of them The Rat, TS-9 like yours and the Plexi Drive Deluxe and a Big Muff fuzz pedal, a volume (swell) pedal and a Wah-Wah pedal. Also a tube Monster high gain pedal using a 12AX7. Currently they are all gathering dust. I am in love with Overdriven Tube amps but at my age I am making everyday effort to play clean Jazz and a little blues. I used to play like Jimi Hendrix and in fact this is my natural talent. I played a Strat through a hot rodded Marshall JCM 900 MkIII Hi-Gain head using a Marshall JCM 900 1960A and a Marshall JCM 900 1960B full stack. No need for pedals as the sustain was like a violin and the overdrive was fantastic. The "dimed" Marshall Roar was like a 35 ft. high tidal wave about to break right on top of me on a beach in Hawaii. Actually many times I would turn around and look just to make sure that I had not been transported to that beach and a 35 foot tidal wave was not in fact immediately above me and about to wash all over me. It was a traumatic experience. It was LOVE! I shouldn't go back to that style of playing because it destroys my hearing.
Now, these day's, because I don't wish to give our two birds heart attack's I no longer play at such extremely loud volumes. In fact I play on clean amps and seek to become a better Jazz and Blues musician. It's really difficult for me because my natural talent is playing like Jimi Hendrix- with no effort at all, just wonderful fun and joy and love of music! -Peter age 70
Hey Peter! Don't want to rock the birds too hard haha! The Strat through a JCM900 had to sound awesome! Cheers and thanks for watching
I bought a vintage 80 ts9 from a pawnshop $57 ... sounds good and not harsh! Maybe it’s just my ears! Good content by the way! Keep it up
bet it sounds amazing!
@@FuzzlordEffects hahahha! I like the sound! We all have different ears! What do you suggest for Klone type? Pedal
Great video! I don't have any experience modding pedals and can barely get through a basic pickup installation but this really inspires me to take a look at more electrical projects.
My first Tube Screamer was actually a Horizon Devices Precision Drive (before I really understood what an overdrive does). I've had a TS9 and an EHX East River Drive but I'm currently rocking an Earthquaker Devices Plumes. I really miss the old Ibanez original, though; I'll have to pick one up again!
Thanks again, Jason, for making such a killer channel!
You can do it man! That is badass you have a Plumes and thanks for watching man!
I got my 1st tube screamer in 2002 it was on the top of the trash at my studio I was handy and I am electrician so I grabbed it and figured it out quickly it was only the switch so I replaced it with a small momentary push button I got at radio shack thru the 3/8" hole that was already right above the pedal part and I've had and used it since. I might try these mods on it 🤔
awesome that you fixed it!
@@FuzzlordEffects ty
Entering V1 with less low end is usually beneficial in order to tighten up the distortion channel for palm mutes (unless you have real metal amp or pedal). But more headroom sounds great. I use my cheap Behringer TO800 with 12V. There seems to be a slight change in dynamics, more so for the AMT K2 that comes afterwards in my chain towards the power amp. Interesting channel, think I will sub!
my first TS was a soundtank in the 90s and it was my first pedal, bought at the same time as a cry baby. Mostly I kept the volume dimed, the gain at zero, and played around with tone in between. It served me well till it died, and i got a boss blues driver instead.
can't go wrong with a blues driver!
Yep awesome channel, can't imajine other pedal builders actually telling you how to mod a pedal .
I havnt tried anything like this but I'm gonna try those ts9 mods !
thank you for watching!
I first got a sound tank tube screamer in about ‘96. I have since bought a ts-9 about 3 months ago, (I built a diy od pedal but ironically a connection came loose right when I was considering a ts9)...I run a crybaby wah into a TS9, into a hand wired fuzz face clone, with a touch of delay, from a micro cheap pedal, and light amp reverb...The ts9 is awesome!
I built a klon centaur clone...but soldered the pots onto the wrong side of the board🤦🏻♂️minor setback...but a setback nonetheless! I was about to order breadboards and a bunch of stuff to tinker with, and still might...but it slowed my roll! I do enjoy the channel though! Nicely presented information! (McKinley Morganfield is the man I agree;) the episode with playing heavy stuff on a tele was awesome!🤘
Electrosmash and Geofx are the best resources for new builders. Oh and your channel.
cheers!
TS circuits are cool, but I was always more of a blues breaker od kind of guy. For that reason, I stack a Wampler Pantheon with an Earthquaker Hoof. Brutal.
Awesome video, Jason! That TS sounds beastly! Cheers!
I'll have to feature one of those on the channel someday! Cheers Zach!
@@FuzzlordEffects I'm gonna second the idea of a bluesbreaker into a muff type circuit. I've got a JHS morning glory and when I stack it with the my BAT Pharaoh it adds some extra harmonic content and some high end cut without drastically altering the tone. It's a cool set up. It also stacks really well with my Black Forest for some good horror punk type crunch tones.
I bought my first TS9 in 2016. I kinda went whole hog back when I was a kid with a Danelectro Fan Tone (still have it), then a Digitech Death Metal (sounds terrible on a small amp, and amazing on a big one). I use my TS9 to boost my Seymour Duncan TwinTube Mayhem if I'm plugging a passive pickup guitar into my rig so I don't have to completely change my gain and EQ from my usual for active pickups. I also use it with an old karaoke mic and a EQD Avalanche Run for making lo fi black metal vocals.
Just found your channel, I'm watching from the farming country in Ohio, which is most of Ohio. I haven't played music in a while and I don't play doom. I don't even own a tube screamer, but now I want one to try this mod. Love the channel. I'm just an old guy who used to play in a mathy rock band, trying to play and write music again. Thanks for the inspiration.
My first Tube Screamer was one of the Sound Tank plastic deals..... got it in the early 90's
badass!
Here from Portland, got my first Tubescreamer (a DX version) for Christmas about 11 years ago-ish. Been using it ever since, I usually stack it with a Big Muff or another OD pedal.
great pedals!
This is pure gold!!! Completely perfect for what I have been looking for
cheers!
Very cool video Jason!!! Fortunately or unfortunately I don’t own and never have owned a tube screamer. I have a couple of pedals that have a boost built in, but I don’t have a true boost pedal. It’s still cool to see the mods that you’ve done with that pedal. Great stuff!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
If you ever have a chance to play one be sure you do!
Never been a TS fan...but dang...this is a game changer. Just might have to pick one up now.
cheers!
Good stuff Jason! A TS mini that I picked up a little over a year ago is my first TubeScreamer pedal and I don't use it much in the studio. Cheers!!
cheers and thanks for watching!
I just swapped the op amp in mine along with a yellow diode on one half of the clipper. It still sounds like a TS9, but I like the effect. More volume, less gain with more of that edge of break up sound throughout the range.
nice!
This is an awesome vid & if I end up getting a TS-9 pedal kit, I'll be sure to use this!. Cheers Jason!.
cheers Wayne!
Loving the channel.😁
Thank you Josh!
Love this kind of content, thanks for sharing!
My first TS was a Luther Drive from Gearmanndude many years ago, I believe it's an 808 style circuit, and I've never needed another TS!
I totally forgot about those!
Me watching this like Ralph Wiggum "LOL I have a behringer tube screamer" 🤣
hahahah cheers!
Great video, tutorial, and demo-- I'm going to do this! I got the same Tube Screamer you used in the video a few years ago from a friend for $25, and really only got it because I could. My go-to overdrive has been a Danelectro Daddy-O for maybe 25 years now, and I also use a Way Huge Swollen Pickle for fuzz (though I'm about to start building a bosstone clone). Struggled to dial in a setting I've liked on the TS-9, but I wonder if these mods would open that up. Thanks again, especially for the clear explanation of how the mods and different components impact the sound. Your videos and attitude/perspective really helps me feel better about getting into this awesome hobby!
Thanks for watching Harley! Dano makes some badass pedals
Dude, thank you so much for this! Cant wait to start modding! These hands on vids you guys do are the best.
Got my Kelley modded Ts9 about 9 years ago, second hand from a close friend. I use it to boost, but after hearing how you had it set at the end...
that is so cool you have a Keeley modded one!!
New sub from Quebec here ! Great video!
I dont use a TS that much only when i want to push the mids. I started with a digitech bad monkey years ago that's a great TS clone but have a older Japanese made TS9 on my board now. Had a TS10 i got for cheap but sold it for 10x the money right away. Sometimes i use my MS10 insted of the TS9
nice!
I'd like to see you do an SD1 clone/mod!
will keep that in mind!
The closest thing I've ever owned to a Tube Screamer was the DeltaLabs copy, but it didn't really work for me. My current overdrive is the MXR Micro Amp, and it sounds so great. I run it at around 2 o'clock, makes my bass seriously cut through the mix.
totally, they are a bit of a love/hate pedal. Thanks for watching Conor!
@@FuzzlordEffects Thank you for the amazing videos! 🙏
Nice job!, can you make a true bypass mod video for this same pedal? Thanks!
That’s a great tone!
thank you Eric!
so usefull , you're a wizard man !!!
cheers!
Love this vid and would love more mod vids.
working on another thanks for watching!
Thank you so much! This is awesome!
thanks for watching Fred!
I run an EHX East River Drive. I either use it mostly as a boost with volume maxed and the gain at 3 o clock. Sometimes I like it with volume just past unity, and the gain at 12 o clock..but that's through my Roland Cube w headphones.. who knows what I'd get up to w a proper amp that I can actually play without headphones!! :P
I'll have to try one of those out cheers Aaron!
I want to do this in my mini. It sure is thin sounding in comparison
Cool mod and nicely explained.
Interestingly I have an Ibanez TS7 Tone-Lok which has a switch that switches between a classic TS9 to a Hot with more Sustain setting (Kinda makes me laugh that a TS7 has a TS9 function crazy model numbers 😉).
I was wondering if this switch is doing something similar in making your mod switchable?
great info buddy.
Take care
👍✌😎
Ps (Metal head hippie sent me ✌)
Was that a peavey "Hp" series or "signature" series? Couldn't tell.But, sounded great.
thanks! A T60
Hi Bought my first TS9 over Thirty years ago, but it was very disappointing as it didn't do what it said on the tin.It had a lack of tubiness and a total lack of screaminess. could have done with your fantastic advice then. Anyway thank you so much for you help in rectifying or double rectifying the design of this Sonic promise from Ibanez. Best Regards. John.
thanks for watching John!
I use a 50 watt Plexi put virtually clean. LOL. I use 82 pedals set up as 4 separate boards with a Boss switcher using 4 loops. I believe I have 3 Tube Screamers but as you know some makers do not admit they are selling you a ts. They sell it as they have just reinvented the wheel. lol WTF it is just the way it is. As a rule I hate the ts. In it's natural form I believe that it's symmetrical distortion gives it an unnatural tone to my ears. OK ...so my first ts is a Pro Tone Attack Overdrive designed as a 'caboose' with it's fancy high pass filter to tighten amp distortion but I use it to tighten high gain dirt pedals. My 2nd is a MP Custom FX Gainiac Plus virtually a high gain pedal it has zero lows so it becomes my treble booster. My only serious ts is the Cusack Screamer which I leave in it's asymmetrical mode that I only use when I play my Strat for the only SRV sound I have ever heard that sounds convincing. I do believe that someone should revisit the Pro tone idea with a pedal that is deliberately aimed at tightening and taming other dirt pedals. It should be called 'The Stacker'. Yes Horizon Devices have a couple but NO one tweaks a pedal or worse yet for them MARKET's a pedal for stacking.A guy with a combo and pedals like 99% of all Metal players does not pay attention to pedals aimed at high gain stack users.
dang that is alot of pedals!
@@FuzzlordEffects I have at least 30 more for sale on Reverb ...lol Even I have to draw the line. I also use and take 9 guitars to a gig. I have 3 piece power trio do my 24 tunes. A journalist described the music as ' a Sabbath vibe with a Prog Rock sensibility . He nailed it. The idea is to get what you would hear on a recording including the Post production but live!
Curious to know what sources you use for the actual pedal components used in the video. Thanks, and subbed!
Wow Jason this is such an awesome fuzz pedal I love it. :)
thank you man!
@@FuzzlordEffects You're very welcome Jason. Much love.
Great mod my friend ✌👍
thank you Andy!
How can I make this mod to the tube screamer in my DAW? haha. great video, thanks!
grab a bandpass filter and add a little boost between ~500-750 Hz
I didn't hear much change besides swapping out the caps. I have the Joyo vintage OD which is a clone of the TS9 I think. I may want to add a switch to swap between the the 100nf and the 47nf.
That’s badass!
thank you!
Great channel ..what’s the best place to buy my electronics.caps & resistors
Got a Noah’s ark TS secondhand from a store in Japan while bumming around a few years ago, just use it to lift up my fuzz face or to help get my sandwich fuzz to feed back
WHY?!?!?!Great video by the way. You just got a new subscriber? Any tips on decent mod for DS-1 other than the same old useless ones?
Just curious....
What's your heat setting(s) for the lead free solder you're using??
~825 F
I got my ts9 by trading a ts10 to friend around 1988 or so.
nice!
Also for what its worth ive used a tube screamer mini for a while, I liked the sound of it a little better in the store. Butttt, now i play an orange TH30 and it seems like the overall tone of that amp, even the clean channel is voiced around the 630-730hz area? I use it as a tool to cut the low end out of my guitar but it seems less useful now that it doesnt have that TS effect like it would have on my marshall JTM.
they def like certain amps it seems
Sounds great, but I feel like at a certain point you're losing what makes a tube screamer a tube screamer. You want the compression and low end cut to help you cut through the mix better.
It would be great to see a rat mod video
I'll keep that in mind!
Is this a new tube screamer?
As in, a recent production run.
I rewatched it.
Hopefully they still make them through the hole.
I plan on building one soon and want one brand new as a reference.
Could you make the pedal have less low end/make it tighter by using a smaller cap value?
Yes, but will change what frequencies get overdriven. There is a few caps you can change to achieve the goal. I really enjoy doing the technical QA on patreon 😬
I own an original 1981 japanese model... except the gain knob doesn’t work so it needs modding/fixing anyways
very cool!
D-capitated 🤣🤣🤣
Would these mods transfer to other pedals? Like a dod 250 for example.
similar concepts but the dod250 is a distortion pedal in it's circuit topology
What was that riff at the end? 😯
just me making noodles haha
Jason what do you think is the best way to deal with the tone pot? the original uses a W20K (log-rev log) type which is not easy to find (here in Venezuela is almost imposible). In my DIY 808 (which sounds great) I´m using a 20K lineal and just the last 20% is usable, some others like BYOC uses this solution or 25K lineal too but is not that great... ...btw if someday you want to clean your store and get rid off old stuff (like W20K pot) I could give you my sisters address in houston to send all that trash there :) :) :) ....what a great human I am don´t you think?, always thinking in environment and helping people...
great topic for another video don't forget to subscribe!
My Ibanez TS-9 from the 90's has a Maxon board and a TA7555 op amp. Also, the diodes (first mod) have a white band, not a black one like the 1N914 that I have (any difference?). Can I replace the original one diode with 2 of my new ones? It seems easier to connect both and then solder into place. Thanks!
I bought a mini TS and I hate it. These mods sound good though.
Thanks Chadwick!
Is it similar to the fortin mod?
Just got my first one, did the 808 mod and it sounds thicker. Someone else has video changing R4 to 2.2K instead of your 3.3K. Can it still be used with the 0.1uF cap? More gain than 3.3K?
I have a TS from the 90's (a soundtank series) that had a Keeley mod....but it doesn't sound as good as this! Curious as to how it sounds in a mix with a band behind it....
Those capacitors (I think that's what you said they were) that you doubled up on to make an asymmetrical circuit, what would happen if all 3 were replaced with an led?
Diodes (: I am pretty sure there is another video on the channel where I take same pedal and swap for LED. Since it’s an overdrive it mostly just turned into a screamer voiced clean boost 🤘
@@FuzzlordEffects that's fair, and I was tired when I typed this so excuse my slipup. Are there any unorthodox pedals like a bd-2 or fuzz factory that you think, either with the right settings or right mods would work with a doom tone?
mans listening to the aphex twin sleep mix
Thank you for noticing 🖤
Could you do this same mod to a Joyo vintage overdrive? I'm not too savy on chips and stuff.
Not same pcb so wouldn’t be same exact procedure but concept is the same 👍
does this also work on the turbo TS?
This is cool! Have you ever thought about cry baby mods?
great idea for future videos cheers!
@@FuzzlordEffects thanks man! Same to you!
Can I do the same mods to a ts808 ?
Hey Jason, would I be able to do these mods with a maxon od808?
same concepts apply yes!
Great Video. I am about to mod a tb clone. Does the rating on the 1N914 matter? For example 75V and 100mA or 100V and 300mA?
either one is fine for this purpose cheers!
@@FuzzlordEffects great, thank you !
Does this work on the 808?
Jason can this be done on a mini t/s
same concepts apply but it is SMD and would be a little different of a process
Wonder if this would be good on the TS mini as well
Same concepts apply but that pedal uses smd components. The parts numbering from schematic will be different
@@FuzzlordEffects much appreciated bud! I'm gonna look into modding the old greenery
The first mod converts the screamer to a Boss Super Overdrive. Just buy one. They are cheaper.
a diode is like 10 cents man, I think you have your logic mixed up. Helpful comments are appreciated
The best way to use a Tube Screamer is to set it to max level and minimum drive and use it to drive the shit out of your vintage Marshall. That fuzz-buzz sound coming from the drive control actually sucks pretty hard.
Lube Creamer
I bought a Boss SD1 to mod but after I opened the pedal I found out that Boss now uses SMD components....so I don't think I'll mod it now.
Same concepts apply and with a little practice soldering smd is totally doable
Great Video, however. :: ))
Never liked the tube screamer I got the earthquaker devices plumes it’s got all these mods from what I can tell and I use it for a volume boost and sometimes I use it to just add uncolored sustain
thanks for watching!
@@FuzzlordEffects oh always dude you’re the person that got me into fuzz and Doom