PASSIONATE England Fan SLAMS Andy Goldstein For Calling Gareth Southgate "A FAILURE!" 👀😤
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- England fan calls into Drive to defend Gareth Southgate after Andy Goldstein calls his time at England a failure.
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Give him a knighthood, do me a favour. His job is to win games and titles. To many people get honours for doing jobs they are well paid to do. That's why the honours system is not fit for purpose and should be scrapped.
@@tommaxwell7643 I'm starting a petition to get rid of the honours system
If Bellingham didn’t bail him out with a minute to go against Slovenia he’d be disgraced.
but he did so your point is irrelevant
If we hadn’t missed a couple of pens we’d have won the euros & he’d have been knighted 3 years ago….works both ways
@ashleymartin6521 No his point is very much the reason. Southage has dined out on luck. Yes that happens a game here or there. But the point is it's on the back of poor selcection, tactics prior to games, and during games. A disingenuous win percentage boosted by favourable draws he struggled to get through. A team vastly under performing and hung out to dry by them out of position. Tried experimenting wildly with a player who isn't a midfielder without runners to justify that attempt. That doesn't instill confidence in the modfielders who then step in. The midfielder we ended up with he did a u-turn on after being nudged to do so. He has a dire win percenrage against top 10 teams (sub 35%), a win percentage also bolstered by the relatively new Nations League, of which they've then been relegated. He has failed to make the big decisions when it counts REPEATEDLY. But yeh, a win percentage is worth a knighthood 🙄 Apply any context and it falls apart. Some past teams went out earlier rounds against World Class teams, which SG has never faced, not even the Spain team that just dominated us were better. No ones saging hes an A hole, but his lack of ability to learn from his own errors, and in fact, get worse, speaks volumes. And thus fallacy that hes made players wnant to play gor England like it was a standars for decades, no, it was momentatrily a problem with rival players. Thelose players had moved on, he didn't have to do sh for that to disipate. Yet the previous mentioned players still played better. Context matters ALWAYS. NO ONE is asking for a given cup, it's the lack of plan on the pitch which hinders us more than helps. Theres no plan B, C, or D. He was evidently tactically inept, for ALL THREE tourbaments. As soon as we come across a team who are just as capable, we didn't just lose we got doninated, bar the gane against France, which SG himself STILL cost us by not making the right calls. The end
@@ashleymartin6521but it still is a good point, he needed a last second overhead kick to escape the worst result in our history, in a game where we deserved to lose. He was an exceptionally lucky manager
If my auntie had⚾️🥎. If the Spain winner was rightly given offside.... unfortunately you get nothing for IF.
This guy would forgive and support his wife after she cheated on him with his worst enemy
Yes, even in front of him
😂😂😂😂
That’s a terrible analogy. He’s not cheated on anyone , people are not clever, their lack of analysis never ceases to amaze me.
@@alastairbrewster4274 it doesn't say he has you mentioned not being clever, read your own comment
@@bfc3057 not minding anything , who are you to impose your doctrine on another person , that’s called fascism. And your sentence was atrocious , try to offer some semblance of sentence structure.
Best caller I think I’ve heard on talkSPORT 👏🏻
So without Southgate bringing it all together, the caller wouldn’t have anything to do with the people in his street!?
Spain won, italy won, Argentina won, and england want to praise theyre mediocre manager for winning nothing ... no wonder why england cant win a trophy...
All the above have" failed" many times . That's football ." Mediocre manager" managed his teams to four Big Tournament finals , reaching two finals, 1 semi, 1 quarter. Perhaps you should lower your expectations ?
@@Simpleburger1968 no trophy though you judged on what you win sorry
@@Gazowen-qz5xy No need to be sorry 🙂. The opposition will try to stop you winning . Sometimes they're very good ! (at the highest level you'd expect nothing else 😉)
@@Simpleburger1968 very true
@@Simpleburger1968 Which is why at the highest level you need a manager with the highest level of tactical know how. For all Southgate's good points, his tactical know how was limited which is why England never won anything under his management.
Hes had two world cups and two euros more than enough.
Qualified for all ( more than can be said of many teams ), two finals, 1 semi and 1 quarter : the opposition will try to avoid defeat , sometimes they're pretty good .
English fans are deluded with the quality of players they think they have 😂😂😂
@@DavidLawlor-ci8wzplayer of the season for La liga, top scorer in the bundesliga and player of season for the prem. you’re deluded if you don’t think they have a first rate squad to choose from.
Absolutely! England were pre-tournament favourites and had the best squad of players. So, yes, he was a failure. Who next? If Tuchel was English it would be his all day long. He is a former world coach of the year and has 10 major trophies under his belt. It is a no-brainer for me.
@@treble20 and when he fails like Sven and capello what will you say?
No manager should expect any respect after selecting Kane for every game in the Euro’s when he couldn’t raise a gallop. Our team played the whole competition with only 10 men in affect. Insane.
Exactly!
As a welshman, I know where you coming from. During Qatar, after our first game, Bale should have been dropped. He was a world beater on his day but he was shot to bits in that world cup.
When Southgate played Kane in the final, it wasn't till Watkins came on, that England actually started threatening Spain and when England scored, I thought that was it, they would score another one or two but then just sat back.
Stones, had a good game, and there was one instance, he grabbed the ball and ran into the Spain half. The Spanish players where all over the place, why wasn't stones doing that all tournament??
Personally I was gutted that Southgate has resigned, only because I don't think they would have won anything under him. Get someone in, who knows how to manage a team of world beaters, cos that's what most of the individuals in the team are, and I think England will be a dominant force for years to come .
LOL at this 'we played with 10 men because of Kane' narrative.
He had more impact at this tournament than any other English player, you realise that, right? RIGHT???
His 3 goals (2 in knockout rounds) was more than anyone else achieved in goals or assists.
What does that say about the rest of them? And this narrative? 💀
@@OnlyUseMyCrossbow You are in a minority of one , child. Are you registered blind by any chance?
@@OnlyUseMyCrossbowKane scores nothing but low quality lucky goals. Watch his highlights instead of looking at the numbers
He did fail. What did he achieve? Given easy routes to finals, with wonderful players, he achieved nothing. I’m not a football manager, my list of achievements are equal to his
No matter how passionately you support a team, you got to recognise turgid football when you see it. Especially if you genuinely believe it's a results business. The man has had £50 million in wages and delivered sweet fa. With players good enough to beat Spain.
Definitely Chris Martin calling in…bugger off
Southgate said a change of direction is needed. Yeah how bout forward
😂
Who would take Southgate to be there club team manager nobody would fact
Punctuation?
@@jamesm9995 grammar cop
@@jamesm9995 grammar cop
@@chrishaddow5644 Punctuation, clearly.
International management is completely different. No-one had barely heard of the Spain coach. GS is/was better suited to that set up than the week in week out game.
When a country is not used to winning trophies, it's amazing what they will call success..
Of all these muppets saying Southgate is a success or should be knighted, how many would actually want him anywhere near their own club? Southgate is a nice guy who has been so unbelievably lucky with the players at his disposal, and the easy draws. Everytime he came up against a decent team he lost because he is not a winner. Simple as that.
Club and international management are different. Did you know Spains manager got sacked by Alaves after less than a year and hasn’t found a club job again in 13 years. Would you want him managing your club - probably not
@@ayoa.o.9966and he’s won something and got Spain to play attractive football. So I guess the Spain gaffer is suited to international and Southgate isnt.
They'd all cry if Southgate was rumoured to come to their club!
A Scots perspective here. The only time in the last 50 years I have been fearful of England winning the WC or the Euros prior to Southgate being in charge was 1990. In the last 3 tournaments I have felt that England were absolutely serious contenders to win. In all 3 tournaments this feeling was increased when the draw opened up for England, big time. The only reason England haven't won at least one of these tournaments is down to Southgate's lack of courage. Cowardly in his tactics in all 3 when the big games came calling.
I was never fearful of England winning a trophy in their last 3 tournaments. I never felt they would get over the line even when they got to the 2 Euro Finals. The last World Cup was never a realistic target for them, in my opinion. I was never fearful and that’s being honest.
@@Fireboy3636 so in the final v Italy you were chilling thinking we won’t win after 3 minutes of play were ya? Stop it.
I'm a Scot too mate but i have to disagree with you, this guy rebuilt England in his time there, IMO it's a poisoned chalice the England job. Yes they were serious contenders but he took them far in tournaments. There are other great nations out there and England don't have a right to win and just because they didn't win anything doesn't mean he is a bad manager.
Yes and my Scottish mate is so fearful, he admits he can't even watch England. I genuinely think most Scots don't really care about their own team, only about England.
@@mulluppy1982 I was thinking there is a good chance Italy are going to get back into this. It’s easier to recover from an early goal than a late goal. Italy had the mentality at the time because of winning previous tournaments. A lot of it is a mentality thing I think. If England broke through and won a tournament they could win several. But because they haven’t broke through I haven’t much faith in them.A good team with good players obviously, but still a bit short of the very top teams.
He was brought in to win trophies....he didn't win anything, if that's not failure i dont know what is
He was brought in to dig us out of mess left by Hodgeson and Aladyce, losing to Iceland. First England manager to get major final abroad, even Ramsey didn’t do that. So by that measure he has succeeded
@jasonburder3963 he has succeeded in winning nothing, I wouldn't compare us to the lowest we've ever been, of course we were gonna bounce back from that, look at the players he's had at his disposal
@@markzola8142 England have always had good players, Success is relative, the Georgia manager was a success for qualifying and getting out of the group, England were successful for doing something they have never done before reaching a final
@jasonburder3963 if you want to define success as someone that won nothing then that's up to you, I define success as winning, we didn't win, we wasn't successful
I'm not sure the trophies are important to the FA. Southgate has been successful in getting the players to 'take the knee' and wear rainbow armbands - they never even achieved that in 1966.
I live in the Teesside area and can count on one hand the amount of English flags I have seen on my estate and around the town I live in and I think that’s because Southgate’s England do not inspire passion. That caller is the polar opposite to me I go to football to watch entertaining football , winning is not the be all and end all . England have bored me to death .
Tragic reporting by someone who has managed nothing ! The Londoner who called in was bang on!
He was paid £3.8mil per year to win nothing over 8 years and now a call for a knighthood. This country truly is broken 😂
5 million a year
So why knight bobby robson
Whats his wages have to do with. It’s not his fault that he was paid 5 million a year.
He took the money..mowing he was conning everyone into thinking he was a good coach..lol@@lovelock73
@@phil2068Robson knighted for great services to football...not taking a team down..or winning nothing!
The AI spam bot in the comments is making more sense than the knighthood conversation
Caller didn’t make sense, you telling me no england manager has got the country together like southgate.
um.... Yes? Sven, Capello, Allardyce, please point someone out who united the nation and made these players look like they're happy to play together.
and yet you name none???
@@Larry4lifeeh what about venables
@@pppscooby yes
@darrenknight6553 showing our age,he started his list with sven 😂 ye had good runs in 90 and 96 too tho,that's what gets everyone going
Knighthood for what losing two finals with the players he’s had and never gives a chance too
Never mind luckily stumbling thru 💩 teams 😂😂
Kudos to Darren the QPR fan. Rare fan with the correct perspective on being a fan. Most these days are only fair-weather , really happy when things are going well , otherwise non-stop complaining. Darren , that was an epic rant , Bravo !!
Love the passion and loyalty but when you have the resources England are blessed with, YOU HAVE TO WIN
Lesser resources to all the true global powers, 0-11 vs WC winners in KOs on foreign soil across nearly a century, Spain just beat 3 in a row. England are closer to Greece and Denmark
Lmao English PL players, lmao they’re carried by foreign players and coaches
You have no right to win. Delusion like yours is why the country is backwards.
France have had the overall best side in the world for almost a decade, so to only get one trophy from five tournaments (and three finals) must be an abysmal failure then. 🤷♂️
Southgate was an average manager when he took over, and he didn't improve in 8 years. He made the same mistakes in tournaments over and over again. His best work was off the pitch
Only manager to get wngland to the final twice
@@kyleday5026and who did he beat to get there lol, I can tell most of you guys backing Southgate’s are casual football fans
Spot on!
@@kyleday5026 Getting to the final means nothing unless you win it.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE BEST CALL TALKSPORT HAS EVER TAKEN …. Wow … wow …. WOW
Shut up you woke Southgate prawn cocktail supporter
Awesome wasn’t it
@@mulluppy1982 goosebumps… Gareth may not be the man… but the feelings emotions and moments he has given us are undeniable
He’s still a failure.
You know he’s a failure when the fan brings up his own personal struggles.
Anything to detract away from Gareth being a failure.
@@effortlessGFX people like you make me feel happy I’m not like you.
This caller thinks it’s a success to lose finals
23 out of 24 teams do lose , some far earlier than others . Many teams don't even reach the finals 😉
Southgate is a loser, he does not have a winners mentality and sadly neither do some of the team members.
Absolutely! England were pre-tournament favourites and had the best squad of players. So, yes, he was a failure. Who next? If Tuchel was English it would be his all day long. He is a former world coach of the year and has 10 major trophies under his belt. It is a no-brainer for me.
What a clueless prat Darren is . Every player worth 100mil and happy to play long ball … sounds like right melt
Clearly supports Chelsea and loved Jose!!!
Clueless prat? You actually believe the media when you're told these players are worth 100m LOL. Cringe. In a foreign league they're 30-50m players. Southgate excelled - can't wait for another 20 years of group stage failure. Do you actually think these players are suddenly going to win a trophy with a change in manager? It took Guardiola 9 years to win the champions league and he probably had the best team in the world for 5-6 of those years.
"Worth 100 mil" .....perhaps someone is overvaluing them ? (they did reach the Final though, losing by a single goal to Very good team ! ) 22 teams failed earlier ....
100% clown!!! England beat nobody ranked above them in 4 tournaments
all us irish fans love all this shite ...... england fc the gift that keeps on giving brilliant andy townsend ex ireland player by the way ..............
Such a mixed feeling with Southgate for me, I’m 25 been watching England since the 06 World Cup. Until Gareth took over all I saw was disappoinment. It was so exciting at first seeing us finally go deep in tournaments, but after a while it just became stale. Football is entertainment at the end of the day. In 20 years time people will look back and see how influential Gareth was
That caller “Darren” I agree with every single word that came out his mouth. 100% spot on mate. God bless you & your family.
I get what the caller is saying, but it’s time for change. Got to hope the FA get their fingers in their pockets and don’t let it regress.
‘Mugs out there who don’t know a good thing when they see it’; beautifully put.
Failure is not good.
Won nothing mate, and shi*e football.
Low block, defensive, passing sideways and hoping someone has a moment of magic is not a good idea
Thanks to everyone for further proving this exact point :)
@@JG-rn2hn I see you cant cope with facts and logic. Feeling are more important to you?
The thing about English football is that they're not outsourcing help like the cricket team. Look at their cricker team, they realized they are not winning with their style. They brought in guys who introduced something different to their normal cricket. They became World champions in ODI and T20.
They became brave.
half the country is right, the other half are asleep cause their so bored of Mouthgate ball.
What the hell was that caller going on about
Southgate had the beat set of players of all the teams in the Euros and failed.
Umm no that was France and they didn't even make the final
@@mikedon5205France had one world class player
England players are always overrated by the media and fools who listen to them.
@@mikedon5205 🤣
There's not a single person outside of England who thinks ye had the " best set of players in the euros "
If you didn't win, that's a failure.
One team wins the tournament ....all the others "fail" .
Doesn't a team come runners up as well and get silver as well? In the world cup you get a bronze medal for third. So no they're not failures are they if they get a medal and that status
What a toxic entitled fan you are. You get clubs celebrating top four for one season. He’s come 2nd twice England have only ever come first once in 100 years.
Rubbish, ask any nation whether they prefer tournaments they get bundled out of early or when they make the last four.
@@Simpleburger1968Correct. Winners consider it failure if they don't lift the cup. You sound happy just to be a bridesmaid
Instead of slating Gareth. What about the players accountability? Kane, Bellingham, Walker, Foden? Woeful all tournament. Yet if Gareth had dropped them, fans would STILL moan for not playing the best lineup...on paper!
He played them on reputation not form. They played terrible 8 games running including Iceland game. Poor Gordon and Wharton never got a kick. That is what's unforgivable.
@@paulswinney8709Gordon and palmer played poorly Iceland game hence why he didn't trust them
So you’re telling me Southgate’s not at fault?
With a team of players that he has at his disposal, only person to blame is the manager
Exactly! Any player can have a bad game but if they are playing bad all tournament then the manager is responsible
Bob Paisley - 3 european cups - no knighthood mmmmm
Great call from darren passionate call
I love Darren the QPR fan, he should be writing politicians speeches, he had my on my feet feeling very patriotic 😢
The only time you will see England lift a trophy is on a computer game , thats about the best your gonna get.😢
He is a failure
Well technically yes he didn’t win it 😂
So are you for saying such a thing.
Whoever comes next, has to win the World Cup now,otherwise he’s no better and probably worse than GS has achieved
@@deanknoote114 Exactly & I don’t think that’s going to happen.
And what the hell does that make you? Little keyboard warrior
Master at team building, failure at team tactics. 😂
well said caller
Well said Darren.
The part of this narrative I keep hearing that is conveniently left out is that the "improvement" is only on paper, in terms of the story it is the same old story, we get beat by the first decent team we face. How is struggling past Columbia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Denmark etc and losing to Cech Republic, Spain and France an improvement? In these tournaments we have had 1 good win against the Germans who let's face it where not an amazing Germany team and a win against a bang average Netherlands side, those where our best wins. Where is the improvement? same old story, going out in the first tough match up. If anything it is a regression given the quality of football we played.
I really want Southgate to get a job at a club side. He'll be found out *real quick*
Won 0% against 50/50 opposition
Never beats top football nations!
This dutch team is nowhere near great as compared before. @yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld Holland not been too for years!
Cucurella v shaw: cucurella
Carvajal v walker: carvajal
Simon v pickford simon in this tournament
Stones v laporte: laporte
Rodri v rice: rodri
Olmo v foden: olmo
Williams v trippier😂: williams
Jamal v saka: 50/50
The rest you make your own choice......
BUT ENGLAND HAVE THE BEST PLAYERS🤷🏻♂️😂😂😂
Without Frenkie De Jong they are not that strong going forward. They are no where near as good as the Dutch teams of the past @yoshiwoollyworld
The caller is absolutely clueless. So, if you have a manager of your team, you should stick with him regardless? Southgate has had 8 years in charge, it's not as if he wasn't given enough time! At £5M a year, I wouldn't feel the need to feel sorry for him.
England were pre-tournament favourites and had the best squad of players. So, yes, he was a failure. Who next? If Tuchel was English it would be his all day long. He is a former world coach of the year and has 10 major trophies under his belt. It is a no-brainer for me.
I hear Southgate passed his resignation letter to Harry Kane Who passed it to Bellingham who passed it to Stones who gave it to Pickford who kicked it to the FA.
If my gran was coaching England people would have come together and watched. What are these people on about?
No mate, the country didn’t like the national team not so long ago. Southgate changed that.
Well she hasn’t has she. She probably doesn’t even make your grandad happy. Stop spouting online nonsense
@@mulluppy1982exciting young players changed that you wally, Gareth has slowly made us lose hope, terrible tactics, slow paced and can't beat a top team. Glad he's stepped down, he did good for the team spirit but should have taken a step back a good few years ago.
@@leefox5596 we’ve always had young exciting players what you on about.
So we all didnt watch the world cup in 2010? Or the ones before them ?😂
I like that someone actually said supporters. Fans is an American saying.
This might be the most arbitrary, stupid thing I've ever read. Respectfully
That caller spoke so much sense.
That 1st caller was enough to say 'laters' from this vid!
The QPR fan's absolutely spot on and makes really great points. Gareth is not a failure and today is a really sad day when I checked my phone and Gareth has done so much for this country I wish him the very best after stepping down as our England manager.
Thank you Gareth.
⚽🏴❤️
Great caller, totally agree!
I disagree with him but he spoke so well and I’ll listen to him and understand him which can’t be said about a lot of callers.
Loved this caller
He does realise we lost! In the final! AGAIN!
Southgate is not the enemy and I salute 🫡 him for all he’s done. That being said there is no way that our players have less quality than any other European team on an individual basis, so the only thing that can be pointed out as not working is the tactics!. We should be playing that quick passing attacking play that Spain played but we just looked like we’re completely disjointed and extremely defensive!. The quality of the players alone got us to the final, look at the teams we narrowly beat along the way, all better teams than us but with weaker personnel, then we met Spain who are level par personnel wise, but with far superior tactics and style!.
You want England to play boring and maybe come close again in the next 6 years, keep him on. You want England to play exciting and win bugger all, try to sign Roberto De Zerbi. You want exciting football and a guaranteed trophy, Jürgen Klopp is your man.
Southgate has been the worst manager. No passion, terrible football, and his benchmark is Kalvin Phillips! 😅😅😅😅
Never a truer word spoken, made me remember what football is really about...x
I really agree with this bloke! Spot on!!
Southgate is a loser, why give an award to a bloke that never won in his playing career, relegated Middlesbrough and 4 tourneys with no trophy . If he won, yes. But he is a loser
So what did Bobby Robson do that got him a knighthood. Like it or not he’s done more than every other England manager bar Ramsey.
@@phil2068 Bobby Robson won trophies at Ipswich Southgate relegated Middlesbrough
Did Bobby Robson get England to two finals? @@paulhynes170
What a caller. Bang on lad.❤
Hang on, did talksport use the word SLAMS in their video title? How rare!! 😂😂😂😂
They’ll remember losing and losing. There are no good memories in that!
Tbf he is right to a point for the average guy/girl it guves a reason fir a gathering and ofc the expectations are high but as a football fan it just seemed lacklustre
Fair play to that Qpr fan well said mate , Gareth did have to turn it in tho, but respect has to be given to him!
Excellent caller. Nice one.
How many mistakes can a manager make and still people cant get the criticized!
Good call!
That second bloke is potentially one of the most utterly clueless callers I've ever heard.
tbf i do love how the caller's pretty much exposed Goldstein for being a filthy, plastic glory supporter
My kid cried his eyes when we lost the final.. yeh cheers Garetg
I like this caller. Speaks of life and not just football.
I watched England win the WC in 1966 and I didn't think I would never again see them win anything. That is now a distinct possibility. They have come very close in recent years, and I give Gareth Southgate much credit for restoring that hope. I think they missed a big opportunity in Euro 2020(1); if they had won that they might have approached the last two tournaments with a different mindset and belief. It is deeply disappointing; they will have to start all over again, but I am not going to throw mud at Southgate, he did his best, but it wasn't good enough to win a trophy. I wonder how Holland supporters feel, they have been in 3 WC finals and lost all of them.
Well said Darren ! Your spot on ! 😁😁👍👍
This is a proper Fan, The working man the difference in experiences from Him and the talksport team think about what is actually going on
Well said, Darren. Kinda won we over with his rant, didn't he? Well said.
Is this guy for real 😂😂😂
Andy Townsend and Andy Goldstein-top presenters!
Well said that caller
Goldsteins got an MBE……whats he done ffs!
He's jewish. Wakey wakey penny drop ?
This decision will come back to haunt England but the fans have been influenced by balloons like talksport ... This QPR fan is bang on and this is what pundits don't get !! ... Southgate did a great job .
So how many times does he have to fail before you say enough is enough?
What's he won
Awful awful football.
Championship union loyalty. Southgates actual level
So pure saying he was right to pick Kane every game? Right to pass it back to Pickford to hoof it and hope? Right to not make substitutions when Williams skinned Walker for 80mins ???
Best phone in I've heard for a long time..
Why was Bobby Robson knighted then? Southgate has got us CLOSER to winning silverware, he let player loyalty affect his judgement and he was shyte at attacking tactics, every other area of football management was spot on, especially defensive tactics
Thank you for speaking truth about the XAI90G project
The knighthood is nailed on as our Monarch is an admirer .
Yes, finally someone talking sense!
Goldstein got bombed out of Sky…does that make him a failure?? Its all subjective. I like Andy but he needs to stop
Even MUTV said no thanks goldstein . Lol
8 years ago, anyone could imagine England would reach 2 finals and 1 semi? Knighthood might be exaggerate but Southgate is a successful manager, although less than Deschamps or lafeunte.
Some people have the audicity to call winning bugger all tournaments or trophies a failure, thank god hes gone, I'm back on board, its coming home.
You just can’t win being an England manager. Figuratively and literally 😂